... change as you ... the boat ... that is ... effective ... can't work ... Robert, I have just seen your ideas in the message about foil stabilised proas. How...
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Francis Gaugenot
Brunel.F@...
Jan 4, 2001 12:45 pm
Hello an happy New Year! Briefly popping out of the lurkingzone My name is Francis Gaugenot. I am drawing the plans of my next boat. I used to own a tiny...
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Robert Biegler
Robert.Biegler@...
Jan 4, 2001 1:30 pm
... I don't think it is possible to design a hull such that it doesn't get spray and waves over it when going fast in a seaway. I suggest you solve the...
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Robert Biegler
Robert.Biegler@...
Jan 4, 2001 1:43 pm
... The steering load on the arrangement shown in http://ww.egroups.com/files/proa_file/Robert+Biegler/Foils+to+stabilise+and+steee/ should be minimal. The...
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Roy Mills
rsirfj@...
Jan 4, 2001 2:59 pm
Hi Francis, I enjoyed your posting, and allow me to compliment you on your English. As Robert said, it is difficult to avoid spray at speed with any bow ...
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Francis Gaugenot
Brunel.F@...
Jan 4, 2001 7:23 pm
... you don't ... still need ... er.. Well it was . Makes me feel like Jules de Grandin.(How could I make such a mistake? must have been the pastis. ) Thank...
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Francis Gaugenot
Brunel.F@...
Jan 4, 2001 7:41 pm
... . ... any bow ... you said, ... only a ... his big ... little ... helps a ... perhaps 2 ... Hi Roy, I had forgotten about that fire hose effect. I think...
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Peter Raymond
pramsec@...
Jan 5, 2001 6:47 am
... G'day Francis, The common ways of reducing spray are to fit a sponson or a knuckle on the hull to deflect the water downwards or sideways as it runs up the...
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Garcia Hernandez Fulg...
fgh@...
Jan 5, 2001 8:29 am
... get ... solve ... on the ... spray ... the ama ... Hi all, I do agree with the fact that it is almost impossible to avoid producing spray and waves as the...
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Mark Thomasson
MarkT@...
Jan 5, 2001 8:49 am
... From: Peter Raymond [mailto:pramsec@...] Sent: 05 January 2001 06:46 To: proa_file@egroups.com Subject: Re: [proa_file] Re: water off the bows...
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Peak, Dave
dave.peak@...
Jan 5, 2001 8:49 am
An idea I borrowed from patio furniture that I used on a previous catamaran created seating that served my basic rule of equipment on a boat - If it doesn't...
1091
Garcia Hernandez Fulg...
fgh@...
Jan 5, 2001 8:51 am
... http://ww.egroups.com/files/proa_file/Robert+Biegler/Foils+to+stabilis e+and+steee/ ... is ... is lack ... possible ... True, but it seems that the problem...
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Peak, Dave
dave.peak@...
Jan 5, 2001 9:00 am
Is anyone aware of introducing the kind of 'Carolina flare' (to reduce spray) on proas, that is so prevalent on US East Coast sportsfisherman boats. The flare,...
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Garcia Hernandez Fulg...
fgh@...
Jan 5, 2001 9:08 am
... reduce ... approx. 1 ... flowing arc. ... Do you mean something similar to the bows of Newick's CHEERS? Fulgencio...
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Peak, Dave
dave.peak@...
Jan 5, 2001 9:20 am
Yes but more exaggerated. If I recall Cheers is approx 35' but the flare only extends out about 3-4" (8-13cm), yes ? ... From: Garcia Hernandez Fulgencio...
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Garcia Hernandez Fulg...
fgh@...
Jan 5, 2001 9:36 am
Hi all, I have seen Harris proa, in http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/harry/index.htm ¿Is it Pacific or Atlantic? I have indeed enjoyed reading the set...
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Robert Biegler
Robert.Biegler@...
Jan 5, 2001 9:41 am
... The foils I showed are not lifting the lee side, they are pulling down the weather side. You are correct that the hinges are in completely the wrong place...
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Garcia Hernandez Fulg...
fgh@...
Jan 5, 2001 10:01 am
... flare ... I have seen something similar in the Spanish traditional fishing boats of the north (Basque coast). These are up to some 150 GRT boats and show...
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Othmar Karschulin
karschulin@...
Jan 5, 2001 2:47 pm
Hi all, I can't agree with the statement, that the choice 'Pacific or Atlantic' is only dependent from considerations analogue the boat's color or from similar...
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Mark Thomasson
MarkT@...
Jan 5, 2001 3:13 pm
... From: Othmar Karschulin [mailto:karschulin@...] Sent: 05 January 2001 14:47 To: proa_file@egroups.com Subject: [proa_file] Re: Pacific versus...
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Peak, Dave
dave.peak@...
Jan 5, 2001 3:18 pm
Above the water they do appear symmetrical, but below the water most have some sort of skeg in front of the rudder. However you'd want to stretch the length...
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Hall, Ronald E.
ron.hall@...
Jan 5, 2001 6:30 pm
Checking my set of plans, the Wharram Tiki 38 has a WL B/L ratio of just a little over 12 to 1 unloaded and just a little under 10 to 1 at max load. Classics...
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Michael Schacht
michael@...
Jan 5, 2001 7:16 pm
Newick has used bow flare on many of his designs, from the Maine Cat 22 to big trimarans. I don't think the flare would limit the drag from spray so much, as...
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Peter Raymond
pramsec@...
Jan 6, 2001 11:41 am
... <snip> About a year ago I looked over a Proa which its builder had sailed from Holland to Australia. It consisted of two hulls both based on Wharram ...
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Greg Blanchette
abuzz@...
Jan 7, 2001 3:44 am
... Coincidentally, I have an excel spreadsheet which does this, i.e. draws out and calculates the displacement, L/B, wetted surface, etc. of a flat-bottomed,...
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Gary Dierking
garyd@...
Jan 7, 2001 4:01 am
... I think quite a few people would be interested as most software doesn't easily handle asymmetry. I'd sure like to have a look, although my copy of Excel is...
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Michael Schacht
michael@...
Jan 7, 2001 5:49 am
I'd like to have a look! I think it would be useful to many on the list. Michael Schacht...
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Greg Blanchette
abuzz@...
Jan 7, 2001 8:00 am
... Gary, I tarted it up with a bit of a tutorial front page and uploaded it at the link below. I haven't done the plywood panel shapes part of it yet. If you...
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Garcia Hernandez Fulg...
fgh@...
Jan 7, 2001 11:58 am
Well, I am interested in the photos, and some other may be. Would you put them in the files? Thank Fulgencio ... TAKING A ... from ... Wharram ... smaller hull...
1109
K_S_ONeill@...
Jan 8, 2001 6:45 pm
Howdy Re: Wharram hulls as proa hulls: I wouldn't use one as a model for a build from scratch proa, but if a big storm were to hit a cruising ground (god...
