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Re: flat bottom proa with no rocker

24''from keel to top of sheer at center, 20 '' at the bows. 10 to
12 ''draft.

Todd


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> From: valery19772000 <valery19772000@...>
> To: proa_file@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 7:27 pm
> Subject: [proa_file] Re: flat bottom proa with no rocker
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> Very nice traditional proa. never realise that you made this
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> nice proa. how well and how fast was it sailing. what was the
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> --- In proa_file@yahoogroups.com, "Todd" <bitme1234@>
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> > I did my first proa in 2003 with a flat bottom P.C .46 and
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> > http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/projects/korkor/index.
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> > yahoogroups.com, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@> wrote:
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> > > On 10/24/07, Robert <cateran1949@> wrote:
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:23 am

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I would like to know what would be the pros and cons of a flat bottom proa with no rocker or very littleand a hull ratio of about 24/1. Would it go on a plane?...
valery19772000 Offline Send Email Oct 24, 2007
12:57 am

Any thing will plane if you go fast enough but 24:1 is definitely skinny displacement mode for any speed expected under wind, Robert...
Robert
cateran1949 Offline Send Email
Oct 24, 2007
3:31 am

I tried this on U (see articles at http://www.harryproa.com/archives.htm) The boat tended to sail on the front part of the rocker, never looked like planing....
Rob Denney
proaharry Offline Send Email
Oct 24, 2007
4:12 am

I did my first proa in 2003 with a flat bottom P.C .46 and narrow 12''w @ keel and sheer. http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/projects/korkor/index.htm ...
Todd
tsstproa Offline Send Email
Oct 24, 2007
8:55 pm

Very nice traditional proa. never realise that you made this nice proa. how well and how fast was it sailing. what was the pros and cons of the traditionnal...
valery19772000 Offline Send Email Oct 25, 2007
12:28 am

You gave a lot of dimensions in the write up. What is the height of the sides? Thanx George Conway, SC ... From: valery19772000 <valery19772000@...> To:...
vectorges@...
saab4991 Offline Send Email
Oct 25, 2007
12:44 am

24''from keel to top of sheer at center, 20 '' at the bows. 10 to 12 ''draft. Todd ... of the sides? ... ...
Todd
tsstproa Offline Send Email
Oct 25, 2007
2:23 am
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