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'Dual Covenant' Christians
Christian Zionists and the strangest alliance in history
by Jon Basil Utley

The major internal conflict for the strangest alliance in history is
about what will happen to Jews who don't convert to evangelical
Christianity. The Armageddonites, those 30 million Americans who
happily see Mideast chaos as hastening their one-way trip to paradise,
are being increasingly questioned about the fate of Jews whom they
urge to help fulfill the prophecies.

http://www.iraqwar.org/ArmageddonUpdates.htm

Once their death wish agenda is realized, the end-of-the-worlders
believe that Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims (of course), other Christians
(apparently including Catholics and Orthodox), and all the rest of
humanity will be killed. But the born-again will be "raptured" to
Heaven. (See "The Brutal Christ of the Armageddonites.")

http://antiwar.com/utley/?articleid=8588

Now some enterprising Texans have "resolved" the big question. The
Jews God kills will go to a parallel heaven, "their" kind of heaven,
to enjoy eternity alongside the good Christians. The Jewish heaven
will presumably be what "they" would like, perhaps different from the
evangelical heaven, where there will be "no booze, no bars, and no
need to mow the grass on one's lawn," according to a popular Gaither
Singers song. (The fact that the Jewish faith has no afterlife at all
similar to the Christian one is irrelevant, nor do the faithful Texans
probably even know it.) It is called the "dual covenant theory" – the
belief that Jews and Christians have separate deals with God. However,
Muslims, Hindus, and others have no deal.

http://www.davidhocking.org/blog/?p=57

A Wall Street Journal piece described the dual covenant theory in an
article about a Christian Zionist meeting in Washington two weeks ago.
In particular it reported on Rev. John Hagee, who founded Christians
United for Israel and organized the event. Now, Jerry Falwell and
other evangelicals who once opposed the thesis have joined the Hagee
group board of directors. They urge no peace concessions by Israel
and, now, war with Iran.

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB115396305776618640-lMyQjAxMDE2NTIzNzkyNjcz\
Wj.html


The 3,500 delegates held a major rally in Washington attended by,
among others, Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas), Senators Sam Brownback
(R-Kans.) and Rick Santorum (R-Penn.), Republican National Committee
chairman Ken Mehlman, Israel's ambassador to the U.S., and other
leading Zionists. As the Journal reports, "They see, and even
sometimes seem to embrace, the notion of a global conflict between
Islam and the Judeo-Christian West, just as do many zealous Muslims."
(Protesters outside the meeting were led by Carol Moore, who long ago
first brought media attention to the Waco and Weaver travesties.)

http://stopthewarnow.net/protests/07-18-06-CUFI.html

Interestingly, polls indicate that most Americans are nowhere near as
pro-Israel as their elected representatives. Recent polls show strong
majorities of Americans do not want the U.S. to intervene on Israel's
behalf in its current military campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_go_co/us_mideast
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/12697
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/12693

There are many other strange facets to the Zionist-Evangelical alliance:

* God needs Jews to gather in Israel for the fulfillment of His plans.
To further this, the Christian Zionists collect money (from
churchgoers and on TV programs) to pay for primarily Russian Jews to
emigrate to Israel, because God can't end the world until most Jews
have returned to the holy land. However, American Jews apparently can
stay in America without hindering His agenda.

* The great advantage of being "raptured" is that there is no Judgment
Day. Everybody who is "born again" automatically goes to Heaven, their
sins all forgiven, and no good works are necessary. But it must happen
soon. If John Hagee, Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson should die before
Armageddon happens, then God will handle their souls the ordinary way.

* God loves the Jews, according to fundamentalist theology, but not if
they work for peace. Pat Robertson explained that murdered Israeli
leader Yitzhak Rabin was killed because he got in the way of God's
plans for continued war. Robertson also blamed Ariel Sharon's recent
stroke on his withdrawal from Gaza. Similarly, according to the Wall
Street Journal, Hagee said that "calls for Israel to show restraint
violate 'God's foreign policy statement' toward Jews." In May, 2003
Hagee and other evangelical leaders sent a letter to President Bush
applauding the invasion of Iraq but complaining about the
Israel-Palestine peace plan. They said it would be "morally
reprehensible" for the U.S. to be "evenhanded."

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001179.php

* Hardly any leader of the Christian Right publicly opposes the
torture of prisoners of war (with the notable exception of Chuck
Colson of Prison Fellowship). Perhaps predictably, many
fundamentalists are passionate supporters of John Bolton, the U.S.
ambassador to the United Nations, noted for symbolizing all that the
rest of the world dislikes about America. Just war, rule of law, the
Geneva Convention, charity to one's enemies – such concepts are all
anathema to these Christians who long for the end of the world.

* Millions of Arab Christians are certainly not loved by the God of
the Armageddonites. In fact, Arab Christians don't seem to exist. Pat
Robertson's 700 Club, for instance, refused to show a segment about
Christian Arabs. Jerry Falwell's tours of Israel purposely avoided
them, according to Grace Halsell, who traveled with Falwell's group
and wrote a book about it. Robert Novak has written about the plight
of Christians under Israeli rule and how almost no representative in
Congress dares to speak up for them, except for Henry Hyde, who is
retiring. The self-proclaimed "Christian" columnists and commentators
on Fox News and the Washington Times op-ed page remain silent.

http://www.alhewar.org/gabriel_habib_What_About_Arab_Christians.htm
http://www.middleeastbooks.com/html/books/halsell-f.html
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2006/02/16/menaced_holy_land_chr\
istians


The White House has explained the nuances of God's plans to
Armageddonites before. Last year, it sponsored a meeting with leading
fundamentalist preachers to explain that Gaza was not part of the
historical Judea and Samaria. Therefore, its spokesman argued,
Israel's withdrawal of settlements would not interfere with God's plan
to end the world.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0420,perlstein,53582,1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_and_Samaria

It is a bit weird that we begin the 21st century with American foreign
policy being made by religious fundamentalists who mirror some of
their Muslim brethren in their hatred. And now they want to attack
Iran, whatever the consequences for the world's oil supplies through
the Straits of Hormuz. Never mind all the wisdom and experience, books
and lectures of America's foreign policy establishment: State
Department and CIA experts overseas, analysts at think tanks, the most
brilliant thinkers in the nation might as well be whistling in the
dark. George Bush has been asked if he believes that we are in the
"end times." He refused to answer. He has said that God tells him what
policies to pursue, presumably those now inflaming the Muslim world.
Catholics and most other Christians, incidentally, do not believe the
Armageddonites' scenario. Others believe God's prophecies already
occurred in Biblical times.

And the preachers? Just in case the world does not end soon, Rev.Hagee
has set aside several million dollars in trusts, money earned from his
prophecies and preaching. The San Antonio Express News reported on the
IRS filings of his Global Evangelism Television network. After their
report, Hagee re-registered the fundraising network as a church, which
does not need to show its IRS filings.

http://www.workingforchange.com/printitem.cfm?itemid=20640

Source: http://www.antiwar.com/utley/?articleid=9456
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