Hey Alan, I'm not really interested in a debate either. But your statement about sensus plenoir being the nemesis hermeneutic for A-Mills proves something...
Darrin, You said, "To say that the two comings were not understandable from OT perspective is simply not true." Given NT revelation, Stephen is applying a...
Hi Alan, If that were the case, then it would explain it. I agree that Exodus 12:46 is clearly a type of Jesus and it is easy to see how it’s prophetic. ...
Scott, The wording in Exodus actually reflects the citation in John much more closely than the Psalms reference. If yahoo could do unicode I could actually...
Some additional thoughts:---A very important factor to keep in mind concerning NT references to OT passages is that sometimes it is not intended to be a direct...
Hi Alan, That’s good info. Per your recommendation, I just ordered _Three Views on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament_. It sounds like a worthwhile...
Scott, Glad those comments helped. As far as your question about Matthew. He is not saying that the original context was a prophecy. Matthew, especially a...
Scott> Your example of Hos 11:1 starts another discussion though. Maybe I should ... Scott>> In fact, ... dar>Yes. Exodus 4:22-23.< Also INDIRECTLY, see...
Be careful! For this exact reason, the Jews are taught that Isaiah 53 applies to the Jewish "Nation" (as in people-group) and not to some individual...
... Really?. Be careful of what?It is fact that Matthew viewed Israel as a TYPE of the Messiah when he quoted Hosea 11:1.Our challenge is to try to determine...
That's my point. Matthew was moving under the guidance of the Spirit. He was a real "Pentecostal" because he was actually there for that special Pentecost....
... Ron, Dennis- I've believed for sometime in the doctrine of concomitance. It is briefly sketched in Hebrews 2:10-18 quoting 3 OT passages. Each one points...
Thanks for the response and a the new "label" for seeing the progeny as a unified extension of progenitor. The Jewish rabbis are not entirely incorrect in...
Hey Dennis- Nice to see you come out of lurking mode now and then. As to the question, Messiah only has one body. All Israelites and Gentiles are a part of...
Hi Alan, This certainly shows the value of understanding how and why Jesus and the NT disciples used OT scriptures. Jesus had to do a lot of correcting of...
Good example. That answers that. :) Thanks Darrin. Scott From: prewrathonly@yahoogroups.com [mailto:prewrathonly@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Darrin Sent:...
I don't have time right now but maybe someone here would be interested in interacting with this person: "It is my belief that this new prophetic model answers...
How did Jesus and the apostles view the law, psalms, and prophets? There was a school of rabbinic thought concerning the Messiah at the time the Messiah began...
Excellent and well thought out, Darrin! Dennis K ... From: prewrathonly@yahoogroups.com [mailto:prewrathonly@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Darrin Sent:...
... Alan- The NT authors believed more fervently in Jesus as Messiah after His rejection and death since it was prophesied in the scriptures. Numerous...
I can appreciate much of the thesis of Peter Goodgame but for me he seems to overlook the flaw in his own position ie the rapture Matt 24:29-31 takes place...
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Paul, That is indeed a problem for them. If I am not mistaken they attempt to get around that by importing a preterist interpretation up to verse 28. The folks...
They have the same problem as preterists. They use Luke 21 to interpret Matthew 24 and thus make facile assumptions about Matthew 24. For example, Goodgame...
Reading more on the Red Moon Rapture theory it is apparent to me that they will do anything to avoid the cosmic disturbances to be identified as the same event...
... No kidding...that is CRAZY! He has the DOTL before the beginning of the 70th week. And, approx. 5 or so YEARS between the 1st trumpet and the 6th trumpet?...
Does anyone know of individuals or fellowships that hold to the prewrath view, located in the Portland/Salem, Oregon area? ron - [Non-text portions of this...
I’ve always been interested in the sun becoming dark and the moon being like blood and the stars falling from the 2nd heaven.  I was pondering the thought...
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