I pride myself on making a mean bigos..but it takes a full days work!


Roast one lego of pork.

Roast 1 chicken

Make a gulasz from about 1 kilo of beef.

Take about 5/6 large jars of kapusta...drain, chop....put in pan and cook for
about an hour......add shredded pork roast, chicken, gulasz...plus one wiejska
chopped......add liquid from drained cabbage to taste....do not allow to
burn..keep it cooking for a few hours.....cool..freeze...ooh you need to add a
few bay leaves and a few allspice to that...and pepper.YOu can add chopped fresh
cabbage as well but i prefer the full taste of kiszona kapusta and I always get
plates cleared!

The lazy version is even easier..go to the shops buy a couple of jars of
bigos..add a bit of kielbasa and maybe meat..serve!

A couple of years ago whenI was in krakow I came across a pieczona kielbasa
which was like othing I had ever tasted before...sadly it was picked up at a
market and Ive never seen it since!
Our local polish sklep sells a slaska kielbasa which barbecues brilliantly. I
too like a piece of slightly dried out mysliwska....but for slice and eat you
cant beat wiejska!

But.......how I am going to use up several kilos of kabanos?!!!!!!!!..apart from
having a party!!!

Might try frying some slices into a bit of cabbage and seeing hwo that works...i
usually use chorizo but if I add a bit of chilli that might work!

btw anyone got recommendations of new books worth buying at thsi time of year? I
bought the First to Fight....was good but I felt it was a bit lightweight for
me. Not sure if any new books have come out recently worth reading ...hence my
buying teh book recommended..its winging its way to me from amazon. I like
biografies particularly of the forgotten odysey genre.....stories worth telling.

I'm sure Mike would have agreed with Tony on adverts.
You can always add the kabanosy to bigos!
On aother note: I'm off to Gdansk on Saturday. MIke made a collection of MS
Pilsudski Memorabilia before he died, last summer Jerzy Litwin, Director of the
National Maritime Museum in Gdansk came over to Kidderminster and I presented
the collection to the Museum. On Monday I'll be guest of honour at the opening
of an exhibition to commemorate the 70th Anniversary of the Sinking of MS
Pilsudski off Hartlepool.
On Sunday week their will be a Mass for Capt. Mamert Stankiewicz at St Marys RC
Church Hartlepool.
Fran Oborski
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

--- In polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com, krysiack <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I reckon it was I who created the shortage of kabanosy!!..Really my freezer is
full of them!I have no idea what i was thinking fo when I was buying them!
> Pek is really the best make of polish kielbasy....i know since all poland
joined the eu we can now get 60,000 different varieties but you cant beat Pek
for quality, they were after all export quality....and I must confess my dog is
very partial to Lidl kabanosy!!
>
> Still, come on I need recipes!!!
> Krysia
>

Just what I was thinking. Who has a good recipe for bigos. My mother made the
best bigos ever. Sadly she is no longer with us. But at my Uncle wake recently
the ladies cooking in the church hall kitchen excelled themselves. My wife is
desperate for a bigos recipe.

Jozef.

All this talk of kabanosy makes it sound like there is only one variety of
kielbasa.  My favourite is mysliwska.  What's yours?


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As Krysia asked about advertising, I will try to explain the policy which I
think I inherited from Mike and perhaps modified over the years to try and
please everyone (ha ha).

Basically, what I object to is someone participating in this group for the sole
purpose of plugging a book or service or whatever.  You may recall when the
Poland joined the EU we were inundated by dodgy emplyment agencies on the make
and demonstrating great ignorance and a general lack of sensitivity.

I did hesitate over Alexandra's recent plug, but I thought it might be of
interest to some of us, so I let it go, because I got a feeling she may be able
to contribute to our group in other ways.  If I did feel that she (or anyone
else for that matter) was overdoing it, I would have a quiet word off-line. 
Similarly, if anyone else feels that anyone is spoiling the character of this
group, they are welcome to let me know and I will consider what they have to
say, but that does not mean that I will necessarily agree with them or act.

And I expect you are all more confused than ever now.

Tony.
Moderator.


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I reckon it was I who created the shortage of kabanosy!!..Really my freezer is
full of them!I have no idea what i was thinking fo when I was buying them!
Pek is really the best make of polish kielbasy....i know since all poland joined
the eu we can now get 60,000 different varieties but you cant beat Pek for
quality, they were after all export quality....and I must confess my dog is very
partial to Lidl kabanosy!!

Still, come on I need recipes!!!
Krysia

>
>
> When I said parcels went from our house every month I meant I remember
> them going from the early 60's......yes when the stan wojenny was declared
> post solidarnosc there were organisations sending parcels in bulk....but
> in our house those parcels went from way before then.
>

Hi Krysia,

I have a vague idea my parents sent parcels in the late 50s & 60s too, but
there was always some element of doubt as to how long they would take to
arrive, were they tampered with etc. The transports were very reliable and
fast (3 or 4 working days if I remember correctly - certainly no more than a
week).


  a world shortage of kabanosy...anyone got any ideas for using up huge
quantaties?..

Yeah, sell them to my local Waitrose. They seem to be out of stock half the
time.

Has anyone had the misfortune to try Made in UK quasi-kabanos? YUCK! I'm not
a fussy eater but one bite of these made me feel quite unwell. Horribly
greasy and stank of garlic.  Even the dog wasn't keen on them :-(




Richard

--
R A  Mekka
ARM A-V Services
0118 948 2559     Skype

Thank you Krysia!

Alexandra Everist
Author of "A Katrina Moment"
Co-Author of "No Place to Call Home"
www.alexandraeverist.com

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When I said parcels went from our house every month I meant I remember them
going from the early 60's......yes when the stan wojenny was declared post
solidarnosc there were organisations sending parcels in bulk....but in our house
those parcels went from way before then.

I have no objection to anyone recommending their books here..Tony, you have a
problem with this?...I would like to think that if I ever wrote a book you lot
out there would all go out and buy it!!!! Part of that support all things Polish
thing!!!

(Im trying to empty my freezer before Christmas and have discovered that I must
have been expecting a world shortage of kabanosy...anyone got any ideas for
using up huge quantaties?..all recipes gladly experimented on!!!)..oh and yes we
have already tried the bottle of vodka and kabanos recipe.

Krysia

>  you could buy beautifully made clothes
> for zlotych in places like Moda Polska.
>


Yes, I still have some frocks from there ;-)

--
R A  Mekka

At 10:35 19/11/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>
>Agreed, a bad time. Only we lucky visitors, with our $$$, Sterling & DM
>could stroll into the local PEWEX and be amazed at how CHEAP some things
>were.

I recall that back in the eighties, and probably before, the black
market rate of exchange was fixed by the half-litre of Czysta.  It
was always 1 USD in Pewex, so the price in the ordinary shops was the
zloty/dollar rate on the black.

And it wasn't just the Pewex, you could buy beautifully made clothes
for zlotych in places like Moda Polska.

Hugh

Hi all,

Just wanted to add my 2 grozy's worth.


>
> Our parcels to Poland contained food stuffs, soaps, fabrics, baby clothes
> and nappy liners, raisins and chocolate, clothes!...Money was taken
> whenever anyone went to Poland.
>

I think it must have been in the early 80s that regular "transports" started
running to Poland ie lorries that took parcels. They weren't that cheap but
very reliable, and the goods did get to the recipient intact. I can recall
my parents making up huge boxes (tea chest size) of "goodies" to send a
couple of times a year, which was a big financial undertaking for them as
they were retired (or about to retire). My mother worked in a children's
clinic and as word got out that she was making up these parcels the staff
there were very generous in chipping in. I recall one senior Health Visitor
"leaning" on a couple of sales reps and "persuading" them to donate orange
juice, nappies, rusks etc. Our front room was piled up to the ceiling with
Cow & Gate products! Gawd bless 'em.

But what goes round comes round. When my mum (sadly, widowed by this time)
and/or myself visited Poland years later the little kids that received the
goodies were by this time in their 20s or 30s, often with families of their
own. Each and every member of the household had STRICT instructions to
pamper "Aunty" or "Uncle". If they lifted so much as a little finger they
were to be plied with tea. coffee, beer, food etc. as required :-) It was
unthinkable that the "English" relatives were to use public transport - cars
and lifts were laid on pretty well 24 hours a day.



>
> Lets face it I don't think today's youngsters have any idea of what it was
> like in Poland pre 89, cant imagine a life where shops could be empty and
> people could queue for bread at 5 in the morning

Agreed, a bad time. Only we lucky visitors, with our $$$, Sterling & DM
could stroll into the local PEWEX and be amazed at how CHEAP some things
were.


>
>  I also
>> remember an unspoken sense of duty I had to buy Polish products in UK
>> shops
>> whenever I saw them, which is quite a tough habit to break.

Me too, although it once badly backfired on me. I needed some smart black
formal shoes and was amazed to find the shop (JLP?) had a new line made in
Poland. Good value too I thought - at the time. Got them home and like most
new shoes in those days they needed "breaking in". Well, I had those shoes
for 5 years and they were as uncomfortable on the last day as the first! How
can leather get HARDER and less flexible with time?

:-)



Richard



--
R A  Mekka

Thank you for the website. It has a number of books I had not heard of before. I
appreciate it.

Alexandra Everist

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Felix Vallis <silvestrus@...> wrote:


From: Felix Vallis <silvestrus@...>
Subject: Re: [Poles In Great Britain] Long time no hear!!!
To: polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:10 PM


 



There's no need to advertise yourself ...

anyone interested in the subject can check - for free - many sites on the web.
One of them is here:

www.felsztyn. tripod.com

During one of our trips around the UK my English wife and myself( born 63 years
ago in Poland) visited Penley Hospital before it was closed in 2001. Personally
I found it quite depressive seeing all those lonely elderly Poles without a
family and a home of their own.

regards to all members of this list
Felix

--- In polesingreatbritain @yahoogroups. com, Alexandra Everist
<alexandra.everist@ ...> wrote:
>
> Please check out "No Place to Call Home" on Amazon. It is the story of my
fahter's experiences in the Soviet gulags. He was captured at age 19 and sent to
Kolyma.
>  
> http://www.amazon. com/s/ref= nb_ss?url= search-alias% 3Daps&field- keywords=
alexandra+ everist
>
> Alexandra Everist
> Author of "A Katrina Moment"
> Co-Author of "No Place to Call Home"
> www.alexandraeveris t.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There's no need to advertise yourself ...

anyone interested in the subject can check - for free - many sites on the web.
One of them is here:

www.felsztyn.tripod.com

During one of our trips around the UK my English wife and myself( born 63 years
ago in Poland) visited Penley Hospital before it was closed in 2001. Personally
I found it quite depressive seeing all those lonely elderly Poles without a
family and a home of their own.

regards to all members of this list
Felix

--- In polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com, Alexandra Everist
<alexandra.everist@...> wrote:
>
> Please check out "No Place to Call Home" on Amazon. It is the story of my
fahter's experiences in the Soviet gulags. He was captured at age 19 and sent to
Kolyma.
>  
>
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=alexandr\
a+everist
>
> Alexandra Everist
> Author of "A Katrina Moment"
> Co-Author of "No Place to Call Home"
> www.alexandraeverist.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Colin is French name for pollock
Fran Oborski
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: krysiack <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:37:23
To: <polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Poles In Great Britain] Long time no hear!!!

Ha, Tony you are not alone.....I take my 82 year old mama shopping once a
week......and being a good daughter I try to vary her visits to a variety of
large supermarkets. ( we also shop once a month in the local Polski
sklep)....however....no matter what shop she is in as soon as Mama spots the
Polish section in any supermarket she stops...examines every item they have
thoroughly and eventually buys two or three items.....regardless of whether she
needs the item but simply to support the Polish economy!! She cant help
herself!!
( BTW my youngest lad has declared that Zywiec is his beer of choice..better
than any other and I have to concur!!)

Our parcels to Poland contained food stuffs, soaps, fabrics, baby clothes and
nappy liners, raisins and chocolate, clothes!...Money was taken whenever anyone
went to Poland.

My mother tells a tale that back in the very early days, early 50's, my dziadek
was slipping dollars into cigarettes and sending them to family in
Poland.....following this being discovered by an English neighbour who tried to
help himself to a 'fag' my Babcia had a visit from a gentleman from the home
office making inquiries as to what they were up to!! They were very careful
after that never to leave cigarettes lying about!!

Lets face it I don't think today's youngsters have any idea of what it was like
in Poland pre 89, cant imagine a life where shops could be empty and people
could queue for bread at 5 in the morning!..Let alone not being able to speak
your mind!!!
We really are incredibly lucky to live in the times we do!
Hmmmmm counting blessings time me thinks!!
Have good evening everyone!!

PS Please could you explain to me why Colin is deemed a suitable alternative to
Pollock? I assume it's pronounced Co-lin?..surely not Colin as in the boys name?
I always thought it was coley.....something I seem to remember from my childhood
being fed to a neighbours cat!!




   I also
> remember an unspoken sense of duty I had to buy Polish products in UK shops
> whenever I saw them, which is quite a tough habit to break.  Even now, when
> I suspect that Polish exporters can hardly keep up with demand, I still
> sometimes struggle to make a choice between, say, that bottle of Polish beer
> that is average and that bottle of beer from anywhere else on the planet
> that is really yummy.
>





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Ha, Tony you are not alone.....I take my 82 year old mama shopping once a
week......and being a good daughter I try to vary her visits to a variety of
large supermarkets. ( we also shop once a month in the local Polski
sklep)....however....no matter what shop she is in as soon as Mama spots the
Polish section in any supermarket she stops...examines every item they have
thoroughly and eventually buys two or three items.....regardless of whether she
needs the item but simply to support the Polish economy!! She cant help
herself!!
( BTW my youngest lad has declared that Zywiec is his beer of choice..better
than any other and I have to concur!!)

Our parcels to Poland contained food stuffs, soaps, fabrics, baby clothes and
nappy liners, raisins and chocolate, clothes!...Money was taken whenever anyone
went to Poland.

My mother tells a tale that back in the very early days, early 50's, my dziadek
was slipping dollars into cigarettes and sending them to family in
Poland.....following this being discovered by an English neighbour who tried to
help himself to a 'fag' my Babcia had a visit from a gentleman from the home
office making inquiries as to what they were up to!! They were very careful
after that never to leave cigarettes lying about!!

Lets face it I don't think today's youngsters have any idea of what it was like
in Poland pre 89, cant imagine a life where shops could be empty and people
could queue for bread at 5 in the morning!..Let alone not being able to speak
your mind!!!
We really are incredibly lucky to live in the times we do!
Hmmmmm counting blessings time me thinks!!
Have good evening everyone!!

PS Please could you explain to me why Colin is deemed a suitable alternative to
Pollock? I assume it's pronounced Co-lin?..surely not Colin as in the boys name?
I always thought it was coley.....something I seem to remember from my childhood
being fed to a neighbours cat!!




   I also
> remember an unspoken sense of duty I had to buy Polish products in UK shops
> whenever I saw them, which is quite a tough habit to break.  Even now, when
> I suspect that Polish exporters can hardly keep up with demand, I still
> sometimes struggle to make a choice between, say, that bottle of Polish beer
> that is average and that bottle of beer from anywhere else on the planet
> that is really yummy.
>

> and I will try and think up some suitable fish jokes to make you
> groan...before you lot beat me to it!!!

Well, if you will provoke me, by one of those strange coincidences I heard
very briefly on the wireless last night a story about some supermarket
giving "pollock" a different name because people are embarrassed to ask for
it.  They chose "colin", which is apparently French for "pollock".  Given
all the Poles now living in the UK, you wonder if they might have done
better to call it "mintaj".  Those of you who have been around this group
for a while may recall that it was my quest to find out what the English
word was for the Polish "mintaj" that started this group's love affair with
dreadful fishy puns all those years ago.

Anyway, from a search on the internet,  it turns out the embarassing pollock
story is old news from April. Here's a link if you are interested
http://www.heraldscotland.com/a-fish-called-colin-is-it-codswallop-or-a-load-of-\
pollocks-1.829912
It has some lovely if somewhat predictable puns in the headline.  Even dear
old Cap'n Birdseye has got in on the act (fish act not pun act) although
that salty sea dog is more inclined to call a spade a spade or a pollock a
pollock
http://www.birdseyefoodservice.com/products/fish/FishFingersCrispyBatter.aspx

On the more serious note of sending stuff home, I recall my father used to
send money to our relatives stranded in the then Soviet Union, but he
stopped it once he found out just how much tax was taken and how little
reached the intended recipients.  When he eventually manage to visit them
when things were a little more relaxed in the 1970s, he left the entire
contents of his suitcase with them because they were so hard up for
everything.  Well it was either that or perhaps my cousin's wife had a
mountain of home-made kielbasa she wanted him to take home (newcomers see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polesingreatbritain/message/3819 for tales of
sausage smuggling and welcome to the PIGB universe).

I also recall  my uncle by marriage regularly sending parcels with medicines
and other goodies in to relatives living in the Krakow area.  I also
remember an unspoken sense of duty I had to buy Polish products in UK shops
whenever I saw them, which is quite a tough habit to break.  Even now, when
I suspect that Polish exporters can hardly keep up with demand, I still
sometimes struggle to make a choice between, say, that bottle of Polish beer
that is average and that bottle of beer from anywhere else on the planet
that is really yummy.

Please check out "No Place to Call Home" on Amazon. It is the story of my
fahter's experiences in the Soviet gulags. He was captured at age 19 and sent to
Kolyma.
 
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=alexandr\
a+everist

Alexandra Everist
Author of "A Katrina Moment"
Co-Author of "No Place to Call Home"
www.alexandraeverist.com

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All a question of the right Thyme and Plaice really!!;-)

Seriously though, you are soo right....only those who lost everything really
understand selflessness completely.

My mama and tata went through the Powstanie..didn't do the privations courtesy
of Stalin...but both enjoyed Hitlers hospitality in POW camps.Came to England
with literally only their army uniforms a kettle and a blanket.....I still have
the kettle!

Throughout my growing up and adult hood I cant remember a single month where we
didn't send parcels to Poland, the house was always filled with visitors from
Poland on invites. All my 'ciocie babcie' were really active in the Polish
parafia.

It is very hard for those habits of helping to die...when some of my younger
Polish friends come to visit,(I helped a few come over from Poland), Mama is
always trying to fill their bags with jars of Nescafe, packets of Tetleys and
jars of ogorki when they leave.....to help them, poor boys!!..These being
strapping lads who are builders!!

I do agree that their generation was exceptional....I could never live up to
their standards. Its just very sad that looking around at society today in the
UK their values are worth so little. If their story were heard more loudly
perhaps people would appreciate what they have more!

Ooooooo by the way....if anyone is near Bristol..there is an exhibition at the
central library about the Polish migrants...on til January..haven't made it to
see yet but its on my list of things to do!! Its been organized by the Anglo
Polish society and there is talk of the exhibition moving around the west
country..its been covered in the local press. Reviews spoke highly of it!!!
Krysia


>
> You don't half carp on, Krysia ;-)
>
) My babcia, ciocia and tatus were always the kindest people I ever knew, always
putting everyone else before themselves and would give you the shirt off their
backs. Yet they never complained about the whole 'Nowy Świat' experience
despite the misery, uncertainty and unbelievable hardship they endured. Makes
you weep when you think about it...
>
> Marek
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: krysiack <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> To: polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 8:02:13 PM
> Subject: [Poles In Great Britain] Long time no hear!!!
>
>  
> You are sooo right Mary Rose..we have been stunningly quiet recently!... Time
to wake before another Christmas full of carp jokes beckons!
>
> Talk of Penely made me do a quick google and I found this rather poignant link
> http://www.bbc. co.uk/legacies/ immig_emig/ wales/w_ne/ article_2. shtml
>
> I think many of us who grew up post 45 in the UK had a much richer cultural
life than our counterparts in Poland. Certainly my parents made sure that home
was very Polish plus there was Polish school, Polish dancing,Polish theater,
Polish scouting.... the list can go on!!..all mixed up with a massive dose of
patriotism and love of a home country which I didn't have a physical knowledge
of until I was 11!
> A strange life really!!
>
> I do sometimes wonder how many of the poles who are here now will feel the
same strong attachment to Poland that I do, even though I don't live there!
>
> By the way.....thanks for the amazon link..I am always happy to buy a new book
based on memoirs.....
>
> I have always felt that Wajda should make a film on the exile to Siberia...its
such an horrific story
>
> ...I grew up knowing several 'ciocie babcie' who survived Siberia, I wish I
had listened more closely when they talked about it...or even realized how
important it was to listen..and now they are gone and all I can do is read books
of those who thought to write it down!
>
> Everyone I knew who survived Siberia was touched by it in an intangible
way...the hardship they lived through made these people incredibly kind and
generous..at least that is the way I remember them, I am convinced it was the
suffering and deprivation they went through that made them so.
>
> Anyway....I am now off to sample this years batch of damson gin..which I
should be bottling in the next few weeks...ready for Christmas... ..and I will
try and think up some suitable fish jokes to make you groan...before you lot
beat me to it!!!
>
> Krysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

You don't half carp on, Krysia ;-)

On a serious note, I completely agree about the generosity of those who were
exiled to Siberia (or Nowy Świat as my babcia used to say at the time to her
children !) My babcia, ciocia and tatus were always the kindest people I ever
knew, always putting everyone else before themselves and would give you the
shirt off their backs. Yet they never complained about the whole 'Nowy Świat'
experience despite the misery, uncertainty and unbelievable hardship they
endured. Makes you weep when you think about it...

Marek




________________________________
From: krysiack <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 8:02:13 PM
Subject: [Poles In Great Britain] Long time no hear!!!

 
You are sooo right Mary Rose..we have been stunningly quiet recently!... Time to
wake before another Christmas full of carp jokes beckons!

Talk of Penely made me do a quick google and I found this rather poignant link
http://www.bbc. co.uk/legacies/ immig_emig/ wales/w_ne/ article_2. shtml

I think many of us who grew up post 45 in the UK had a much richer cultural life
than our counterparts in Poland. Certainly my parents made sure that home was
very Polish plus there was Polish school, Polish dancing,Polish theater, Polish
scouting.... the list can go on!!..all mixed up with a massive dose of
patriotism and love of a home country which I didn't have a physical knowledge
of until I was 11!
A strange life really!!

I do sometimes wonder how many of the poles who are here now will feel the same
strong attachment to Poland that I do, even though I don't live there!

By the way.....thanks for the amazon link..I am always happy to buy a new book
based on memoirs.....

I have always felt that Wajda should make a film on the exile to Siberia...its
such an horrific story

...I grew up knowing several 'ciocie babcie' who survived Siberia, I wish I had
listened more closely when they talked about it...or even realized how important
it was to listen..and now they are gone and all I can do is read books of those
who thought to write it down!

Everyone I knew who survived Siberia was touched by it in an intangible
way...the hardship they lived through made these people incredibly kind and
generous..at least that is the way I remember them, I am convinced it was the
suffering and deprivation they went through that made them so.

Anyway....I am now off to sample this years batch of damson gin..which I should
be bottling in the next few weeks...ready for Christmas... ..and I will try and
think up some suitable fish jokes to make you groan...before you lot beat me to
it!!!

Krysia







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You are sooo right Mary Rose..we have been stunningly quiet recently!...Time to
wake before another Christmas full of carp jokes beckons!

Talk of Penely made me do a quick google and I found this rather poignant link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/immig_emig/wales/w_ne/article_2.shtml


I think many of us who grew up post 45 in the UK had a much richer cultural life
than our counterparts in Poland. Certainly my parents made sure that home was
very Polish plus there was Polish school, Polish dancing,Polish theater, Polish
scouting....the list can go on!!..all mixed up with a massive dose of patriotism
and love of a home country which I didn't have a physical knowledge of until I
was 11!
A strange life really!!

I do sometimes wonder how many of the poles who are here now will feel the same
strong attachment to Poland that I do, even though I don't live there!

By the way.....thanks for the amazon link..I am always happy to buy a new book
based on memoirs.....

I have always felt that Wajda should make a film on the exile to Siberia...its
such an horrific story

...I grew up knowing several 'ciocie babcie' who survived Siberia, I wish I had
listened more closely when they talked about it...or even realized how important
it was to listen..and now they are gone and all I can do is read books of those
who thought to write it down!

Everyone I knew who survived Siberia was touched by it in an intangible
way...the hardship they lived through made these people incredibly kind and
generous..at least that is the way I remember them, I am convinced it was the
suffering and deprivation they went through that made them so.

Anyway....I am now off to sample this years batch of damson gin..which I should
be bottling in the next few weeks...ready for Christmas.....and I will try and
think up some suitable fish jokes to make you groan...before you lot beat me to
it!!!

Krysia

Penley is in the county of Clwyd, North East Wales,not too far from Wrexham.
West of Stoke on Trent.

Marek




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From: joe_musialowski <mcs@...>
To: polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 November, 2009 10:22:54
Subject: Re: [Poles In Great Britain] Please welcome Joe Musialkowski...

   --- In polesingreatbritain @yahoogroups. com, Marek K <marek_pk@.. .> wrote:

>
>
> The Polish Hospital in Penley Wales that my mum worked at, was known as Polish
Hospital no. 3.
>
>
> Marek
>
>
> Hi Marek

Many thanks for the info. Where abouts in Wales is Penley ?. My mother used to
go off for weekend visits to some of these resettlement camps visiting friends.
I know she used to visit somewhere in North Wales but I am not sure where.
Delamere was another place I remember her visiting.
The funny thing is that during my research about resettlement camps I came
across Lowther Park in Penrith Cumbria. This place was used for secret work on
amoured tanks. It then became a resettlement camp and then after the mid 50s a
caravan park.
I have had a caravan on this park for the last 20 years and never heard or seen
any mention of Polish displaced persons or army personel being housed there
after the war.
The site is now closed for the winter, but when its open again next year I shall
be making enquiries locally.

On another tack. I also found a site for a petition to 10 Downing St. It is for
an apology from the government for the way the Polish Army and Navy was treated
on VE day. I think you will all know that the Polish troops were not invited to
take part in the VE day parade at the conclsion of the war.

Anyway if its permissable I have included the link here. I am sure the moderator
will vito it if he feels he needs to. But for anyone who wants the link I will
email it on.

http://petitions. number10. gov.uk/polishfor ces/Cy8ekODa4nel CJuBJLA3IGR

>czesc Jozef.






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--- In polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com, Marek K <marek_pk@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The Polish Hospital in Penley Wales that my mum worked at, was known as Polish
Hospital no. 3.
>
>
> Marek
>
>
> Hi Marek

Many thanks for the info. Where abouts in Wales is Penley ?. My mother used to
go off for weekend visits to some of these resettlement camps visiting friends.
I know she used to visit somewhere in North Wales but I am not sure where.
Delamere was another place I remember her visiting.
The funny thing is that during my research about resettlement camps I came
across Lowther Park in Penrith Cumbria. This place was used for secret work on
amoured tanks. It then became a resettlement camp and then after the mid 50s a
caravan park.
I have had a caravan on this park for the last 20 years and never heard or seen
any mention of Polish displaced persons or army personel being housed there
after the war.
The site is now closed for the winter, but when its open again next year I shall
be making enquiries locally.

On another tack. I also found a site for a petition to 10 Downing St. It is for
an apology from the government for the way the Polish Army and Navy was treated
on VE day. I think you will all know that the Polish troops were not invited to
take part in the VE day parade at the conclsion of the war.

Anyway if its permissable I have included the link here. I am sure the moderator
will vito it if he feels he needs to. But for anyone who wants the link I will
email it on.

  http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/polishforces/Cy8ekODa4nelCJuBJLA3IGR


>czesc Jozef.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Mekka <richard.mecca@...>
> To: polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 15 November, 2009 22:30:46
> Subject: Re: [Poles In Great Britain] Please welcome Joe Musialkowski...
>
>
>
> >
> > the Polish Hospital No 6 Diddington St Neots Huntindon.
>
> There were 6 Polish hospitals in St Neots?
>
> --
> R A  Mekka
> ARM A-V Services
> 0118 948 2559     Skype
>
>
> __._,_.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Mekka" <richard.mecca@...>
wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> > the Polish Hospital No 6 Diddington St Neots Huntindon.
> >>
> >>
> >> There were 6 Polish hospitals in St Neots?
> >>
> >
> > I am not sure I understand you. Are asking if were are six hospitals in St
> > Neots, or confirming there were.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> No, just me being silly I'm afraid. You could read the original post as
> saying "This hospital was No. 6 of at least 6 Polish hospitals in Diddington
> St Neots". Obviously there was only one. Looking at Marek's post it would
> seem that possibly there were a string of Polish hospitals throughout the
> UK, and they were given some sort of numbering.
>
> So we've all learnt something :-)
>
>
>
>
> Richard, born in St Luke's Hosp. Guildford (now pulled down and a housing
> estate).
>
> --
> R A  Mekka
>

Ok Richard

Understood. I do silly when I am allowed, but my wife does not understand silly.
Oh well!.

I have read lots of messages re music here. So I  wonder if any member has
acquired a usb stick that gives online access to the worlds radio stations. I
have one here maked as "Prolectrix" Theres probably over a 100 Polish radio
stations on the usb stick.
You can choose from a list which includes all styles of music through to talk
shows etc.  For under ten pounds from Wilkinsons its the best buy all year.

Joe.

>> >
>> > the Polish Hospital No 6 Diddington St Neots Huntindon.
>>
>>
>> There were 6 Polish hospitals in St Neots?
>>
>
> I am not sure I understand you. Are asking if were are six hospitals in St
> Neots, or confirming there were.


Hi,

No, just me being silly I'm afraid. You could read the original post as
saying "This hospital was No. 6 of at least 6 Polish hospitals in Diddington
St Neots". Obviously there was only one. Looking at Marek's post it would
seem that possibly there were a string of Polish hospitals throughout the
UK, and they were given some sort of numbering.

So we've all learnt something :-)




Richard, born in St Luke's Hosp. Guildford (now pulled down and a housing
estate).

--
R A  Mekka

--- In polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Mekka" <richard.mecca@...>
wrote:
>
>
> >
> > the Polish Hospital No 6 Diddington St Neots Huntindon.
>
>
> There were 6 Polish hospitals in St Neots?
>
> --
> R A  Mekka
> ARM A-V Services
> 0118 948 2559     Skype
>
Hi.

I am not sure I understand you. Are asking if were are six hospitals in St
Neots, or confirming there were. Either way I can not comment, only knowing what
I was told. I expect the No 6 designated one of many hospitals used by Polish
troops throughtout the UK.

Thank you for adding me.
Alexandra Everist
Author of "A Katrina Moment"
Co-Author of "No Place to Call Home"
(the story of a young Pole's survival in the Soviet gulags)

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=alexandr\
a+everist

www.alexandraeverist.com

--- In polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com, "tonygabis" <newsgroups2@...> wrote:
>
> ... who tells us she was:
>
> Born in London of a Polish father & English mother.
>
> And I expect that there are many more of us, myself included, who could say
that.
>

The Polish Hospital in Penley Wales that my mum worked at, was known as Polish
Hospital no. 3.


Marek






________________________________
From: Richard Mekka <richard.mecca@...>
To: polesingreatbritain@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 15 November, 2009 22:30:46
Subject: Re: [Poles In Great Britain] Please welcome Joe Musialkowski...



>
> the Polish Hospital No 6 Diddington St Neots Huntindon.

There were 6 Polish hospitals in St Neots?

--
R A  Mekka
ARM A-V Services
0118 948 2559     Skype


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>
> the Polish Hospital No 6 Diddington St Neots Huntindon.


There were 6 Polish hospitals in St Neots?

--
R A  Mekka
ARM A-V Services
0118 948 2559     Skype