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Re: [platypus1917] Re: How to Begin from the Beginning by Zizek
I have no preconceived notions about the council communists, nor am I a
Lenin-basher. I'm generally hostile to the ultraleft, at least of recent
vintage. But I find Chris Cutrone's point of departure
fundamentally mistaken. Ultimately, the question of the greatest star in
the firmament of Marxism is irrelevant. Suggesting that the left
has degenerated since Lenin and the Bolsheviks is a non sequitur in my
estimation. Furthermore, it is fundamentally wrong to take as a point of
departure the self-understanding of Lenin or any of his contemporaries.
Whatever the intentions of the leading theoretician-practitioners of
Bolshevism, their perspective and orientation, in spite of the
reproduction of their works in millions of copies, were never shared by
their followers or even other leaders, not to mention the masses of
peasants and the relative handful of proletarians, and their subjective
conceptions of their projects were necessarily swallowed up by the
circumstances in which they were forced to act and by the perspectives of
millions of less sophisticated people and functionaries. One wise man
ends up in effect no wiser than the millions of people who drag him down
to their level, to which he has to stoop to be effective. Lenin had
more self-consciousness about what he was up against than most, but the
fact is his consciousness had to be limited as well as his scope of
action, or he could not have functioned as the leader of a party, mass
movement, revolution, or head of state.
To give a penetrating example of a whole different kind of analysis, see
this old essay I recently uploaded onto my web site:
http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/gouldner7.html
. . . which leads into the text itself:
Gouldner, Alvin W.
"
Stalinism: A Study of Internal Colonialism," Telos #34,
Winter 1977-78, pp. 5-48.
In fact, all of Marxist political practice and the self-conceptions of
its theoreticians crashed on the rocks of circumstance. And since that
happened, it is obvious that their self-conceptions were not adequate to
the concreteness of the situations they faced and to the problems of
social transformation.
At 10:54 AM 7/6/2009, Angelus Novus wrote:
--- Chris Cutrone
<schwartzweiss@...
> schrieb am Mo, 6.7.2009:
> These characters can't hold a candle to Lenin or Trotsky -- or the
hero
> they mistakenly try to appropriate, Luxemburg, who worked with Lenin
but > would have had nothing to do with them.
Um, considering that Luxemburg was murdered in 1919, whereas the KAPD was
founded in 1920, it would have been really difficult for her to
"have something to do with them", unless:
1. a time machine had been invented,
or,
2. a cure for death had been discovered.
Pannekoek was in the SPD in the pre-war period, and in fact both
Pannekoek and Luxemburg engaged in polemics against the Kautskyite
center. Lenin, at the time, shamefully supported Kautsky against
Luxemburg.
And "libertarian" would never have been used as a label by
these tendencies. That's just a label anarchists like to tack on in their
mistaken belief that these tendencies are somewhat compatible with
anarchism.
Furthermore, it's a bit of a myth that the KAPD wasn't oriented towards
party-building. And the Italian left-communists are Bordiga were quite
Leninist.
Sometimes it's a good idea to conduct independent research on something,
rather than rely on whatever potted history the Sparts spoon-fed you as a
cadre-whelp.
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