Dear Plato Group Members, Perhaps more than any other modern philosopher, it was Hegel who sought to fulfill the Platonian Programme of Charting the...
Dear Plato Group Members, Part I. A New Model of the Universe. Pre-Note: The model of our <<kosmos>> presented herein is an 'ideo-graph-ical' model of the...
Dear Plato Group Members, Part II. A New, Non-Reductionist Model of the Universe, formulated in the language of the 'Meta-Natural Meta-Numbers' -- a...
Dear Plato Group Members, Will essay to make all of this less abstruse by: Posting some intuitive "Principles of Trans-Hegelian Dialectic", expressed via -- ...
Dear Plato Group Members, Part IV. A New, Dialectical Model of the Universe / of the History of Nature. NOTE ON NOTATIONS: 'q|XX' denotes q, underscored, and...
Friends, A while back a friend and I undertook a "slow read" of Max Jammer's _Concepts of Space_. This was a very interesting project as I had never had such...
Bob - do you have in mind here Meno's problem of the 'zetetic circle'? How do we know we have found the right definition of virtue, or that this definition is...
Lee D Perlman
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Jun 20, 2009 12:43 am
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... One of the serious deficiencies of Jammer's book is that he explicitly ignores concepts of time. We attempted to overcome this by reading those parts of...
... Yes, Lee, I think so. At least that is the sort of thing I had in mind, but I would have to find the passage to reread. Can you give a reference? Another...
... Duration is a given, present in all our experience. Time as the measurement of duration, structures our experience. As such it is, in Kantian terms, *a...
... This is assuming that Socrates is looking for a "definition" of the concept X under the form of a short formula in the manner of Aristotle defining by...
Bernard SUZANNE
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Jun 20, 2009 7:47 am
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you first see or grasp something and then you learn the word used to designate it, NOT the other way around. Quite right. Thank you, Bernard. G. _____ Von:...
... Quantum mechanics and special relativity are "theories", that is, models, representations, pictures of the "real world", NOT the real world itself! Each...
Bernard SUZANNE
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Jun 20, 2009 8:37 am
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Thanks. You are a great teacher! chungchi hsu ... From: Bernard SUZANNE <bernard.suzanne@...> Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: [plato] Concepts. To:...
Dear Bernard and Al, I seem to have stirred up some discussion in an otherwise quiescent group, so I will not humble myself _too_ much when I apologize for the...
... To begin with, Plato's Socrates never "teaches" anything to anybody. So, yes, he is not teaching Theaetetus, he is searching with him a better ...
Bernard SUZANNE
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Jun 21, 2009 5:36 pm
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I know that some on this list have doubts about the early/middle/late ("developmental"/Vlastos) classification of Plato's dialogues (as I do), and have various...
I tend to agree with 1-4, but there is stylometric evidence that is difficult to gainsay. The most persuasive for me is the avoidance of terminal hiatus. This...
jacostopoulo@...
Jun 23, 2009 12:22 am
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... I have no idea. Sounds intriguing. Why don't you check it out and let us know? Regards, Bob Robert Eldon Taylor philologos at mindspring dot com...
Stylometric evidence is not at all difficult to gainsay, because it is based on a set of basic assumptions concerning how to read Plato (or about how Plato is...
... But what if the dialogues were presented as oral documents, to be read aloud at dramatic festivals (argued persuasively by Ryle in "Plato's Progress") as...
... documents, ... Ryle in "Plato's ... among the ... for ... aural ... I don't know Ryle's reasoning. -- Perhaps you could elaborate a bit on it. I wouldn't...
... Themistios writes of a Korinthian farmer who, upon reading the *Gorgias*, abandoned his fields to become a follower of Platon as well as of a Axiothea who,...