Plato was not necessairly dead-set aginst democracy. Moreover, there has been serious study on the possibility that Republic was written as an indictment of...
Lance wrote: "In contrast, it appears that Plato wrote his dialogues for publication, that they were published during Plato's own lifetime, " Does this...
This is getting interesting! I've often wondered, what did "publication" mean in 4th century BCE? Did authors do final versions of their writings, then give...
... person ... means -- in ... What then does Socrates mean? Are we really interested in what he means, and what is the good (or usefulness) of knowing what he...
... The printing press and copyright laws have fixed our ideas of publishing because of the expense of type setting. Now with copiers, scanners and the...
... Perhaps the more truthful statement is that one gets beyond 1 all mathematics is a construct, emmm...lie. Now geometry can be done with rope stretching...
Bob, that getting back to more casual publishing is interesting - I hadn't thought of looking at it that way. And my "which version might what we have today...
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Dear Paul, you ask: How do you decide which bits to take at 'face value' and which not? Similarly, how do you decide which parts are 'hyperbole and irony'? ...
'In the end, one can only "play around" with various options of interpretation until a pattern gels and coheres into something that is worthwhile and...
Dear Prager, Paul had asked: How do you decide which bits to take at 'face value' and which not? Similarly, how do you decide which parts are 'hyperbole and...
Dear Mr Lovatt, It may indeed be the case that others have 'imposed sense' on Plato's ramblings and then dismissed those aspects that do not conform to this ...
Responding to Paul Walters saying: "Perhaps Plato did not believe in this theory of 'ideal forms' in quite the way you suppose. Perhaps, too, the Parmenides is...
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... didn't ... Forms"'? ... committed to this ... I find ... world. ... theory, I'm ... Precisely so: many people do think that a theory of forms is useful to...
George, My favorite quote on this subject is from John Herman Randall, Jr.'s book Plato: Dramatist of the Life of Reason. In a chapter devoted to what he ...
Dear Mr Waters, you write: It may indeed be the case that others have 'imposed sense' on Plato's ramblings and then dismissed those aspects that do not conform...
Dear Lloyd, you say: My suspicion, which I don't feel at all competent to prove, is that _Parmenides_ turns out to contain a devastating critique of accounts...
Dear George, you write: Precisely so: many people do think that a theory of forms is useful to understand the world. Do you,however, see a theory of forms...
Dear Stephen, I am happy to read along in The Republic with you and George and others if that is where you decide to look. As for your comments on hyperbole, ...
Dear Paul, Sounds to me like it's time to start a slow reading of the Republic, again, from the beginning. What do you think - and what do you think George? ...
Dear Michael, Yes, perhaps. Though possibly that will not answer. Mr Lovatt has made reference to what he calls fundamentalist readings. I'm not quite clear...
... I think that would be a good idea (in the non-Platonic sense). But as a housekeeping matter, I would strongly prefer to have that reading occur on the...
I have some reservations about another slow reading "from the beginning." Years ago when that was done the discussion petered out after maybe 2-3 years while...
Hello Stephen, ... forms is ... theory ... works? ... your text! Good. Were your examples like mine or do you have different ones? ... are ... Plato had ... to...
Dear all, I am happy to take part in whatever "slow reading" of Republic is generally acceptable. I am also happy to join another list to do this, if that is...
Hello Lance, I think your housekeeping idea is correct. At the same time, I want to agree and disagree with Frank: in the interest of keeping the ground-rules...
Dear George, you write: Good. Were your examples like mine or do you have different ones? First, I come at this as a theoretical physicist. I see the...
Hello Stephen, ... different ones? ... physicist. ... Mechanics as ... Classical System. ... non-linear ... It happens so often to me that I should have been ...
Dear George, you write: It happens so often to me that I should have been weaned of the experience of seeing it as strange, but it is still always strange to...
Friends, I was discussing the Timaeus with a friend who became very confused by my references to the Demiurge. Upon investigation we found that the word is...
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