The art of rhetoric is just like that of the swimming teacher, the boat-pilot, or the military engineer: they can save peoples lives but not better their...
If we take Whitehead's phrase that the whole of Western philosophy is but "a series of footnotes" to the works of Plato, it is clear that the whole of ...
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Well, speaking of "intuitions," maybe it is more intuituve, especially nowadays, that the body brings life to the soul, and the body takes life away from the...
Williams, Frank
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Aug 1, 2002 3:46 pm
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Bernard wrote: (">")
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> And the Meno, which I didn't quote innocently, may help us do this in many > ways.
> > For one, to continue my initial...
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Thomas wrote:
> One approach to ancient texts is historicist, that is an attempt to come as close as possible to what Plato really meant. The key aspect is...
... and the particular, or how different societies and cultures and their most representative thinkers deal with issues of knowledge, truth, justice, freedom,...
... Leaving aside the term "intuition" in philosophy (but not without noting that Kant spoke of *sensory* intuition but rejected any attempt to prove the...
A good argument from Socrates, if Callicles the aristocrat wants to seduces the Athenian people (Demos) or his lover also called Demos (Pyrilampes' darling) he...
Hi Tudor, Some responses to your comments and queries. You said: Tudor: "Intuition, in philosophy, is certain, unmitigated knowledge . . . it is direct and...
Williams, Frank
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Aug 2, 2002 12:30 pm
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Hi Angela, Angela Cembrola wrote: [snipping a bit] At 503a, however, ... Kallikles ... citizens, ... genuinely ... (502a4) ... from 501c ... Since our...
Frank Williams wrote: (>)
> Hi Tudor,
> Some responses to your comments and queries. You said:
> > Tudor: "Intuition, in philosophy, is certain, unmitigated...
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Hello George, George Gregory wrote: <snip> ... Thank you for giving me so much to think about! It seems to me there is great complexity here, and so I have...
Socrates returns to the idea that an architect, a doctor and a politician must make people AGATHOS, good. Underlying this is also the result: beauty: KALOS,...
correction: the text says: The architect must be good AGATHOS to make beautiful KALOS buildings The doctor provides good health. The politician makes good...
A discussion of the value of Pericles: since he was condemned at the end for financial misdoings by the Athenians, if he was so good, the Athenians must have...
[-] ... Owing, perhaps, to its obviousness, an essential (if not THE essential) ingredient in an understanding of Plato has gone unsung, namely, the ability to...
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Aug 5, 2002 4:30 am
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More past politicans are discussed, all failing because the failed to make the people better, because not themselves good. AGTAHOS good (ameinon, better) ...
Hello Angela, ... [snip] It's a joy to hear that you saw something interesting in the brief summary, but I am afraid I was a bit sloppy and also did not enter...
Hello George, Just to pick up on a couple of points on this thread. ... do not ... rather ... good-bad, ... aim to ... I've had a quick look at this reference....
More attacks by Socrates on Athenian politicians that are compared to bakers, cooks and shoemakers, who make the body comfortable, but who do not possess a...
Hello George, I offer some suggestions below, in response to your post. However, please remember that I have not studied this dialogue in the past, and am...
George and all - What sort of (dramatic) atmosphere does Gorgias take place in? *In other words*: those words quoted at the start - "To war and to battle, so...
R. Lloyd Mitchell
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Aug 7, 2002 9:39 pm
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Sabrina C. Mashburn...
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Aug 8, 2002 4:45 pm
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SOPHISTES Sophist <> RHETOR Rhetorician Callicles believes in the great public speakers: Rhetoricians & politicians, but despises the Sophists that claim to...
Hi Angela, [snipping] Angela Cembrola wrote: [GG] ... is, let's ... things ... question on ... Kallikles' ... answer ... different ... Ok, but I have a big...
Since the Sophists & Rhetoricians alledgedly teach justice, they should not have to worry about being paid like the sports trainer has to, since he doesn't...
This is an ironic remake of Socrates' trial, where the doctor Socrates is indicted by a cook rhetorician: "O my boys, many evil things has this man done to...
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