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Yes and the citation should serve as a cautioning moment to appreciate
the Homeric tradition upon which I agree Plato drew. In this case, the
citation is Homer's own statement concerning a certain kind of
first-person story for a specific audience. Homer includes the aspect of
specificity in the reasons for not re-telling the story: clearly, a
story told twice is no longer audience-specific. But not everything that
can be cited from a Homeric character can be attributed to Homer: his
voice is not the same as the voices of his characters. What more
powerful device of composition could Plato have learned from Homer or
Socrates from Odysseus?

George



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> > It seems to be, Christopher, can you are confusing a direct-action
> > play with the story the *Republic* is: Socrates cannot go around
> > repeating the *Republic*. Actors can repeat plays, but not
> stories. --
> > It would seem to follow that a Socratic story can only be
> told once.
> > That is a good reason why Socrates could not on the 'yesterday' of
> > *Timaeus* have repeated the *Republic*. -- I doubt there is
> any real
> > disagreement about that.
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> "Why tell the rest of
> this story again, since yesterday in your house I told it
> to you and your majestic wife? It is hateful to me
> to tell a story over again, when it has been well told.
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> Odyssey. Book 12, 450-453
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... "Why tell the rest of this story again, since yesterday in your house I told it to you and your majestic wife? It is hateful to me to tell a story over...
Thomas H. Chance
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Yes and the citation should serve as a cautioning moment to appreciate the Homeric tradition upon which I agree Plato drew. In this case, the citation is...
George Gregory
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Aug 27, 2006
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Dear Mr. Planeaux, --I really do appreciate your time. I've enjoyed this and found it helpful. Sorry the following is so long, but, I dive back in and hope...
Dan Foley
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Another short blurb, before I start-up this morning .. ... wrote: [snip] ... I opine we have several issues swirling around here: 1) the telling of the story...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
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Dear Christopher, The way the characters behave in Plato's dialogues is part of the meaning of the dialogues. The audience for The Republic, I think, is anyone...
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Aug 25, 2006
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Hi again, ... I know, this is not the *Republic* list. I suggest to Christopher, however, that he is making the dubious -- at least debatable -- assumption...
George Gregory
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... Yessir. I am just wired that way -- while I certainly would quibble with how you appear to quantify this position as seemingly near an outright...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
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Aug 26, 2006
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... Let us start to quibble. It might be fruitful. Suppose a contemporary of Socrates or of Plato came to either of them equipped with the full palette of...
George Gregory
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I have time to respond only to some initial observations. I should be able to respond to others later ... ... ... that Platon writes of Sokrates speaking....
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Dear Mr. Planeaux, ... From: Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. To: plato-timaeus@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:05 AM Subject:...
Dan Foley
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... I am not sure what is at issue here. Sokrates' uses LOGO/J at 27a1. ... I am furthermore not sure this either supports or negates any specific position. It...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
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Hi George, Hello Dan, Hi Christopher, Just back from vacation and find you into some fine matters. [snip] ... It seems to be, Christopher, can you are...
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Hi Dan, [snip] CSP ... GG ... One answer that can be derived from the *Republic* itself is that, were the *Republic* repeatable, the content of what could be...
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