Now and again those of you who are etymologists have commented on Plato's subtle use of character's names. Cephalus - head, Thrasymachus - bold warrior are...
Frank Williams
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May 5, 2000 2:08 am
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Hello, Frank - No etymologist here - just a reader who is convinced that name-choices are never incidental in Plato. Even when the characters refer us back to...
Lloyd Mitchell
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May 5, 2000 2:16 pm
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Hello Lloyd, ... Or our questioning concerning the real nature of the character is shaped significantly by the meaning of the name? Polemarchus --> war-lord,...
George Gregory
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May 6, 2000 7:55 am
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______________________ George says ... ... George, are you forgetting that Plato(n) provided the names? Greetings from Kuala Lumpur Omar Rumi...
sesame@...
May 6, 2000 11:38 am
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... It was you, George! Well, partially. I was reading - no, flipping through - Jill Gordon's recent _Turning Toward Philosophy_, another in the steady...
Frank Williams
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May 6, 2000 11:56 am
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Hello, George - It's good to be talking with you again. I'm not about to let this thread spin out of control, so to speak. But I do need to make at least one ...
Lloyd Mitchell
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May 6, 2000 1:33 pm
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... [snip] ... [snip] ... I must confess; I am (probably highly, though I haven't really given this too much thought) sceptical of the whole etymological ...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
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May 6, 2000 4:37 pm
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Christopher - As I said: enough damage. Now it's time for the real etymologist (that's you) to clean things up. Just one comment. You ask: "My question would...
Lloyd Mitchell
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May 6, 2000 5:25 pm
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Hi Chris, ... Question: I hear you saying that the Polemarkh could himself have been a metic at the time of Plato. Is that right? Question: why was the process...
George Gregory
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May 7, 2000 12:06 pm
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Hello Lloyd, ... Chuckle. -- Threads in Plato weave in wonderful ways. ... Right. -- I was just wondering how this thread could shed light on the issue of...
George Gregory
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May 7, 2000 12:06 pm
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Hello All, Could anyone help me alleviate a point of silly ignorance? -- I don't know where Aristotle talks about the fallacies of parallelogisms: can someone...
George Gregory
gw.gregory@...
May 7, 2000 12:06 pm
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Hi there, Frank! ... Surely, indeed. The problem is, though -- to tell "the truth" -- we logographic necessitarians (whew!) generally disagree with each other ...
George Gregory
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May 7, 2000 12:06 pm
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Hello again, Christopher. Yesterday I said: Haven't you yourself ever used a word with the expectation that a careful listener will hear beyond a sloppy...
Lloyd Mitchell
RMITCHELL@...
May 7, 2000 12:29 pm
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O Etymologists, Before we get too far into the deep nominal issues: There've been initial comments on the names of Socrates, Glaucon, Adeimantus, Cephalus,...
Frank Williams
phiwilli@...
May 7, 2000 1:51 pm
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... [snip] ... [snip] ... [snip] Howdy George, ... Ummm ... no. Sorry if I was unclear. The polemarkh, which was still open only to Athenians, ceased its ...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
cplaneau@...
May 8, 2000 3:10 pm
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I had always thought that Greek fathers tended to give their children names that in some way reflected what they thought of as their own characteristics (i.e....
jacostopoulo@...
May 9, 2000 3:07 pm
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Could it be that the founders of a city are not citizens? In otherwords, citizens come after the founding. Most Greek cities were founded by foreigners or...
kosta.simopoulos@...
May 10, 2000 1:18 pm
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Hi Chris, ... Or something which lies between slight of hand and sharing of power: you are talking about the period of the fleet building (which I have not ...
George Gregory
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May 11, 2000 6:16 am
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Hello George, Chris et alii, I've just been reading the Lysis and found that this young man was named after his pappos (205c3). At the time I was born it was...
fabrifj@...
May 15, 2000 8:09 am
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Dear Frans, For some dry logic.... ... Are you sure you know what I laugh about? (I don't laugh at people who operate with ideas. The fact that ideas are, is...
Dear Frans, I'm "butting in" here but I hope my comments will save my poor manners. I can't speak for George but my frustration with the "theory of ideas"...
philebus@...
May 17, 2000 7:34 pm
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Lieber Frans, ... Nichts zu danken. Ich bin ein "Workaholic" und nehme die Dikussion als Verplichtung auf. ... What is "the case" may well change. But let's...
George Gregory
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May 17, 2000 8:51 pm
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... To: <plato-republic@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: [plato-republic] Digest Number 232 [snip] > .... What he wanted to fight...
pamela js
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May 19, 2000 4:46 am
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Hi Pamela, My Greek-German edition of the 'Republic' is titled: Platon - Politeia(s) in both languages. Sorry for not using the usual american title... I'm not...
fabrifj@...
May 19, 2000 8:55 am
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... [snip] ... [snip] ... If we Americans could only be so presumptuous ... ... The Greek title of Platon's dialogue is POLITEIA, a loaded word without a ...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
cplaneau@...
May 19, 2000 12:30 pm
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... Hi Frans Joris F., Had a prof. once make a comment in a history class about the forefathers who wrote the constitution etc. having had educations in the...
pamela js
pamela@...
May 19, 2000 3:41 pm
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... I suspect the main basis for calling the U.S. a Republic derives from John Madison, in the Federalist papers, especially Federalist #10 & #14: The true...
Frank Williams
phiwilli@...
May 19, 2000 4:00 pm
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First to David: of course you can't intrude on my postings in the list - if George and I had private discussions, we wouldn't make them public to everybody... ...
fabrifj@...
May 19, 2000 6:08 pm
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Hi Chris, So do you think the usual German translation of POLITEIA which is DER STAAT is any better? In my lexicon it has the connotations: country, nation,...
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