Dear Republic-anists, Some considerations on the question I raised earlier concerning the presence of Nikeratus, with a cross-relationship to a nest of...
George Gregory
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Apr 4, 2000 2:18 pm
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Friends, George has unusually jumped forward in the text, but I think we can all assume that his real target is still Niceratus. But as we enter the ...
peterconk@...
Apr 5, 2000 1:37 pm
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Hello Peter, ... That's not quite my argument. I conjured up the three possibilities, and then only said that I don't think we could do more than speculate ...
George Gregory
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Apr 5, 2000 8:22 pm
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Dear Frank, I posted a reply to your questions but-oddly enough-it got "lost." Hmmmm.... A brief reply to your questions would be that Socrates is constructing...
djw@...
Apr 6, 2000 3:37 pm
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Hello Republican-ists, To help us get moving on the Thrasymachus section, I'll jot down some terse, and perhaps shocking, remarks: The discussion with...
George Gregory
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Apr 7, 2000 10:59 am
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David, to continue . . . ... I'm dubious about this - seems that it is the domination of the soul by appetites that is denigrated in the tyrant discussion and...
Frank Williams
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Apr 7, 2000 4:20 pm
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... [snip] ... Yes. This is a fundamental difference I share with most students of Platon. Frankly speaking, however, I do not see how anyone can argue ...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
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Apr 7, 2000 6:13 pm
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David, Chris, Sorry for butting in again, but, since no one has time [-:)] for Thrasymachus at the moment, I take the opportunity for a Denkpause to join you...
George Gregory
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Apr 8, 2000 4:10 pm
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... [snip] ... Ich weiss das Problem aller zu gesunde George. Klassizisten begegnen ihm ta+glich. Es kann entta+uschen, wenn interessante Themen interessieren,...
Mr. Christopher Plane...
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Apr 10, 2000 2:59 pm
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Dear Frank, ... So the erotic is the appetite for knowledge as well as sensory satisfactions? If this is the case then we are still being ruled by our...
David Wilfinger
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Apr 10, 2000 5:15 pm
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Dear George, ... I take this to mean that if we only interpret Plato "symbolically" we are doomed to misunderstand him. Is this correct? With reference to...
David Wilfinger
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Apr 10, 2000 5:22 pm
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... Socrates said something like that once - in his conversation with Agathon in Symposium. The name the two of them used there for this incompleteness - felt...
Lloyd Mitchell
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Apr 10, 2000 6:12 pm
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Dear David, ... That was already true for Homer (for those still interested in the difference between Plato and Homer on the eidos): Iliad II -- Agamemnon, ...
George Gregory
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Apr 10, 2000 9:14 pm
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Lieber Chris, ... Gerne! -- Aber, als der vermutlich aelterer, biete ich "Du" an. ... So we can have a "pincer movement" here: you can *prove* the political ...
George Gregory
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Apr 10, 2000 9:14 pm
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Dear George, ... of people, and at the approrpiate time, and out of appropriate need. I assume you are attentive to the irony of speaking of the use of symbols...
David Wilfinger
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Apr 11, 2000 1:26 pm
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Dear David, ... Ahem. -- Irony, not sure. -- But I did think it might be useful to tell a bit of Homer's story. We have Agamemnon, the fool: Homer says so, and...
George Gregory
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Apr 12, 2000 5:09 am
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Friends, George's chastisement has at last moved me to offer some thoughts on his persistent question. He wonders, though I suspect he has an opinion here, ...
peterconk@...
Apr 12, 2000 2:57 pm
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Dear George, ... So it's not so much the symbolic interpretation which you object to but the simplistic symbolic interpretation (ie. seeing a symbol...
David Wilfinger
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Apr 12, 2000 4:36 pm
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Hello Peter, You've provided a good web of excellent observations. I'd like to try to contribute to bringing them together more tightly, and also support the ...
George Gregory
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Apr 12, 2000 9:31 pm
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Dear George, ... It also doesn't explain what he would've seen. "Eidetic sight" would need a reference to an eidos but is there an eidos of anger? Maybe...
David Wilfinger
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Apr 13, 2000 2:19 pm
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Friends, Just a few comments on George's response to my last. George, you wondered about the connection I drew to the Cephalus scene. I meant nothing ...
peterconk@...
Apr 13, 2000 2:42 pm
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Dear George, Your use of the term "the many" appears in the context of the "crowd" (as opposed to the individual). In my readings of Plato I have never once...
Ralph Gainey
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Apr 13, 2000 6:04 pm
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Dear Ralph, ... It depends on the dialogue you're working on. "The Many" in the *Politeia* is a complex business, but it does refer to people. The reference I...
George Gregory
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Apr 13, 2000 8:34 pm
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Dear David, ... I'd guess we'll both answer to your first question, no, there is no eidos of anger. The reason *why* seems to me a fascinating question. I...
George Gregory
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Apr 13, 2000 8:34 pm
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Dear George, ... Why...I threw him a bone and ran for the hills! I'm not much of a "dog person" (though I may have the face of a dog). Well, here (ie. in the...
David Wilfinger
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Apr 14, 2000 2:00 pm
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Hello George - and all Republicans, Back from Spain I found lots and lots of stuff in the Plato-lists. Though these are *vijgen na Pasen* (figs after...
fabrifj@...
Apr 14, 2000 4:34 pm
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Hello Peter, ... Sure, he does exert that encouragement. -- I suspect that his success in that has to do with what David was addressing as a "field of vision."...
George Gregory
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Apr 15, 2000 11:32 am
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Lieber Frans, I hope your time in Spain was not as rainy as some friends of mine tell of. At least the tomatoes there taste better than the Dutch attempt to ...
George Gregory
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Apr 15, 2000 11:32 am
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Lieber Frans, I hope your time in Spain was not as rainy as some friends of mine tell of. At least the tomatoes there taste better than the Dutch attempt to ...
George Gregory
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Apr 15, 2000 11:36 am
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Dear David, [I apologize for other messages which may have come in doubled: Netscape told me they hadn't been sent, and -- foolishly -- I believed it.] ... I...