Hi George, ... Well I guess not, but Tristram Shandy puts me in mind of post- modernism. If you see Plato's works as texts in the same bracket as Homer (quite...
Hello David, You bring up important issues. ... like ... autobiography ... of post- ... same bracket as ... allow room for ... Or did Plato ... that writing ...
HI George As the discussion jumps around with various interlocutors it is sometimes difficult to know what has been addressed and what is an open question. So...
HI Paul Yes - Glaukon is not named by deme so there appears to be a notion that we already - we the audience - anticipate Athenian etc. On the other hand there...
Polemarchus from an elevation and at a distance (katidôn oun porrôthen) sighted us moving homewards (êmas oikade ôpmêmenous). With this little line and...
Hi Bill, ... [mailto:plato-republic@yahoogroups.com] ... Thanks for this. Just on this above, my point was slightly different, and sorry if that was clear to...
Hi Bill, ... interlocutors it is ... and what is an ... to me. ... differently to ... of Themistocles ... Of course I ... know Glaukon by ... course not ... A...
Socrates is selective in what he tells. As such, that should be no big surprise: Socrates is telling a story and a story is not going to be a video film of...
Hi Dave, Sorry it's taken me a while to get back but, among other things, I am currently enrolled in a management course that I do with an overseas university...
Graciela McNamara
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To back up slightly: Polemarchus: You see (horas) how many we are? Socrates: How should I not (pôs gar ou, not Shorey's "surely"). Polemarchus: Then either...
Seth Benardete, "Strauss on Plato," in The Argument of the Action, p. 407: "What philosophy is seems to be inseparable from the question of how to read Plato."...
Dear George and others, There is so much here that one could get one's teeth into that I don't know where to start. So I'm just going to mention one small...
Hello Paul, Thanks for picking up on these things. For the moment, I'd just like to throw up some "ideas" or approaches. ... the ... truth ... in words, ... ...
Dear George, I wanted to pick out a couple of points from both of your posts. My response is somewhat impressionistic. The difficulty I have in responding is...
Dear Paul, It's fine to pick around: thank you for your picking. You address many things and especially some that I'm sure represents problems to many people...
Change of Scene: 328b4 f. Socrates and Glaucon and Polemarchus and his gang went to Polemarchus' house. Socrates narrates the transition. "...[T]here we found...
328b9 f.: "And I thought him [Greek: moi edoxen] much aged, for it was a long time since I had seen [Greek: eôrakê, pluperfect of horaô, see eidetically]...
Dear friend: What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from China,which is an agent...
R.L. JOHNSON
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Apr 21, 2009 3:41 pm
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To continue, and to dig deeper into the detail and into the questions with which Plato's composition confronts us: "As soon as he saw me Cephalus greeted me...
Sometimes a passage or even a single word that you have read a hundred times before suddenly occurs newly as a question. I had an experience of that kind...
Dear George, ... When I was writing this message I remember hesitating about writing, "... what Plato meant?" I asked myself, "Should I write, "What Socrates...
Dear George, ... When I was writing this message I remember hesitating about writing, "... what Plato meant?" I asked myself, "Should I write, "What Socrates...
I like Shorey's translation on Perseus: "Unless," said I, "either philosophers become kings in our states or those whom we now call our kings and rulers take...
For those who might wish to pursue the question of what was meant by "many natures" in the passage at 473d, here, thanks to the Perseus search facility, is a...
Dear Lance, ... Yes. That is why I suggested that the build-up to speaking of "many natures" needs to be taken seriously, which means to examine the...
... This passage has an immediate and an extended context. Both contexts entail the question of whether what Socrates says he said (yesterday) is what he is...
I do not like Shorey's translation, not even in this case in comparison with Bloom's, because Bloom is honest enough to simply translate, whereas Shorey ...
Lancelot Fletcher wrote: "Unless," I said, "the philosophers rule as kings or those now called kings and chiefs genuinely and adequately philosophize, and...