In response to your question, I don't recall little if any regarding
economics, finances, business plans etc.  Most likely since most "New
Grads" were not going to enter private practice or be in a position
which would require that type of info since we typically were
expected to start out as "new grads."  Not to mention that very few
of the PT's I've ran across have the interest or drive to put that
much work into becoming a business owner.  In my experience however,
I've been bit by the entrepraneur bug and am always looking to learn
from anyone who is willing to teach or provide info that might be
valuable.  The small business administrations (www.sba.gov) has
proven to be a valuable place also.  I've been researching this
off/on for almost two years and at some point will make the jump into
practice for myself and my wife (who's an OTR/L).  So, thank you for
the book info.  I'm planning on ordering a book via the APTA's
private practice section on starting a practice also.


Ryan S. Gephart, PT, CSCS


--- In physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com, "susanpenner"
<drpenner@p...> wrote:
>
> I just uploaded a file on my textbook, Introduction to Health Care
> Economics & Financial Management: Fundamental Concepts with
> Practical Applications, 2004, is published by Lippincott Williams &
> Wilkins.  ISBN: 0-7817-4019-3   http://www.lww.com
>
> I'd like to let health care professionals know about this book--if
> they work within organizations or institutions, the book can be a
> reference for budgeting, financial analysis and the preparation of
> business plans or grant proposals.  The book is also a useful
> reference for practitioners who consider starting a private
practice
> or who run their own office.
>
> You can contact Dr. Penner at drpenner@p...
>
> Question:  How much information do you get in PT school about
> economics and financial management skills such as budgeting and
> writing a business plan?  I appreciate your responses.  Thanks &
> take care!

----- Original Message -----

From: Evelyn Capdevila

To: physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:15 PM

Subject: Re: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: Opening a clinc

Well w/ the population you mentioned, you definitely want to become a medicare/medicaid provider.  Also start calling all the HMO's in your area and ask how you can become a participating provider.  You want to build a referral basis with some doctors.  One good tip-----get a cordless phone.  If you're starting up, your employees might be yourself and/or one other person.  You don't have time to stop what you're doing to run and get the phone, so you get a cordless and carry it w/ you.  Try to get good used equipment (since it's cheaper) and try to get versatile equipment.  You don't need a lot of fancy equipment.   

bocboc1 <physicaltherapist@...> wrote:

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<jjimenez1010@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone. I'm a Physical Therapist from the Philippines, and I
> want to start my own outpatient clinic. Possibly specializing in
> geriatric patients. I'd sure appreciate it if someone could give
me
> some helpful tips about starting up a clinic. Thanks.
>
> James Jimenez


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avenues and medicare.





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Hi. I'm new to the group and just wanted to offer to answer any
questions you might have about billing problems. You may e-mail
questions and at my earliest convenience will answer them.

CMW & Associates is currently seeking Physical Therapists throughout
the US (TX, SC, NC, OH, NE, KS, MO, MD, MI, OR, WV, WA, IN , IL,
MS.)   Salaries range from $65K-$75K, full benefits, most with full
relocation paid and some with bonuses.  Our positions are located in
such diverse settings as hospitals, clinics, medical staffing firms,
insurance firms and large medical equipment and biotechnology
companies.   Please email me at cmw004@... for more
information.  No cost to the canidate.
Thank you for your time,
Mike IL70
Recruitment & Research
CMW & Associates Recruiting
Springfield, IL
cmw004@...

----- Original Message -----

From: RSGPT

To: physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:37 AM

Subject: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: New Member, New Resource and a Question

In response to your question, I don't recall little if any regarding
economics, finances, business plans etc.  Most likely since most "New
Grads" were not going to enter private practice or be in a position
which would require that type of info since we typically were
expected to start out as "new grads."  Not to mention that very few
of the PT's I've ran across have the interest or drive to put that
much work into becoming a business owner.  In my experience however,
I've been bit by the entrepraneur bug and am always looking to learn
from anyone who is willing to teach or provide info that might be
valuable.  The small business administrations (www.sba.gov) has
proven to be a valuable place also.  I've been researching this
off/on for almost two years and at some point will make the jump into
practice for myself and my wife (who's an OTR/L).  So, thank you for
the book info.  I'm planning on ordering a book via the APTA's
private practice section on starting a practice also.


Ryan S. Gephart, PT, CSCS


--- In physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com, "susanpenner"
<drpenner@p...> wrote:
>
> I just uploaded a file on my textbook, Introduction to Health Care
> Economics & Financial Management: Fundamental Concepts with
> Practical Applications, 2004, is published by Lippincott Williams &
> Wilkins.  ISBN: 0-7817-4019-3   http://www.lww.com
>
> I'd like to let health care professionals know about this book--if
> they work within organizations or institutions, the book can be a
> reference for budgeting, financial analysis and the preparation of
> business plans or grant proposals.  The book is also a useful
> reference for practitioners who consider starting a private
practice
> or who run their own office.
>
> You can contact Dr. Penner at drpenner@p...
>
> Question:  How much information do you get in PT school about
> economics and financial management skills such as budgeting and
> writing a business plan?  I appreciate your responses.  Thanks &
> take care!




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----- Original Message -----

From: James Jimenez

To: physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 11:20 PM

Subject: Re: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: Opening a clinc

Susan, I'm opening my clinic in Manila, the Philippines.

Susan Penner <drpenner@...> wrote:

Are you working in the US? 

----- Original Message -----

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To: physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:17 AM

Subject: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: Opening a clinc

--- In
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<jjimenez1010@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone. I'm a Physical Therapist from the Philippines, and I
> want to start my own outpatient clinic. Possibly specializing in
> geriatric patients. I'd sure appreciate it if someone could give
me
> some helpful tips about starting up a clinic. Thanks.
>
> James Jimenez


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avenues and medicare.





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Greetings,

My name is Dan Alloway.  I am a new member to your group.  I work for
Systems4PT - a computer operating software system developed by PT's,
for PT's.  The system covers patient registration, through
documentation to zero ballance billing.
{please visit us at Systems4PT.com}

We are in the process of recruiting therapists, trainers and aides to
sell and install our system into PT clinics.  We've tried monster.com
with no response, (Therapists tell me that they would not look on
monster for opporutnities).  We will be placing an add on APTA.org.

Does anyone have successful approaches toward recruiting PT's that
you would be willing to share?

We are recruting in the MA, CT, NY, NJ regions.

Thanks for your help.

Dan Alloway
Systems4PT
203-938-9915
Systems4PT.com

In our PT program (grad USC '92) we did have to go
through the mechanics of making a business on paper
and it included budgeting, marketing, HR issues, etc.
Our professor would call attention to unrealistic
projections, etc.

In acquiring my own practice 1.5 years out of school,
there were a lot of issues that weren't covered
especially in regard to emerging managed care issues,
but it was a good exercise to learn to find and use
suitable resources.

Can't recall the text we used...it was specific to PT
practice management as I recall.

Anne Howard, MPT
California

Looking for some billing assistance myself; I sent you an email a
while back but have not heard anything.






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  <usc1@u...> wrote:
> Hi. I'm new to the group and just wanted to offer to answer any
> questions you might have about billing problems. You may e-mail
> questions and at my earliest convenience will answer them.

Hi. I'm new to the group and just wanted to offer to answer any
questions you might have about billing problems. You may e-mail
questions and at my earliest convenience will answer them.




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KPT Physical Therapy is presently growing, and recruiting for full- and
part-time physical therapists and physical therapist assistants in the
Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC.  We are a PT-owned (woman-owned, but
"mom-and-pop" run) practice of 25 years.  We stress manual skills.

If you know of any who might be interested in a position with KPT,
please let me know.  Please forward this e-mail to anyone who might be
interested.  We are offering a sign-on bonus, and/or a recruiting bonus.
We have a great package and are a great place to work.

More details are available on our recording at 301-990-4004.

Thanks!

--Stan

Stanley Shapiro, BS, MS
rehab@...
Administrator, Kensington Physical Therapy, Inc.
Ofc 301-990-4000, Fax 301-948-2118
Administrative office: 18221-D Flower Hill Way
Gaithersburg, MD 20879-5333

Thanks for your response!  I believe my book is more comprehensive than
most, yet it's introductory so it should help "fill the gaps" in economic
and financial knowledge and skills.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Howard" <amsporthorse@...>
To: <physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: New Member, New product,
question


> In our PT program (grad USC '92) we did have to go
> through the mechanics of making a business on paper
> and it included budgeting, marketing, HR issues, etc.
> Our professor would call attention to unrealistic
> projections, etc.
>
> In acquiring my own practice 1.5 years out of school,
> there were a lot of issues that weren't covered
> especially in regard to emerging managed care issues,
> but it was a good exercise to learn to find and use
> suitable resources.
>
> Can't recall the text we used...it was specific to PT
> practice management as I recall.
>
> Anne Howard, MPT
> California
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>

KPT Physical Therapy is presently growing, and recruiting for full-
and part-time physical therapists and physical therapist assistants
in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC.  We are a PT-owned (woman-
owned, but "mom-and-pop" run) practice of 25 years.  We stress
manual skills.

If you know of any who might be interested in a position with KPT,
please let me know.  Please forward this e-mail to anyone who might
be interested.  We are offering a sign-on bonus, and/or a recruiting
bonus.  We have a great package and are a great place to work.

More details are available on our recording at 301-990-4004 or by e-
mail at rehab@... .

Stan Shapiro
KPT Physical Therapy

----- Original Message -----

From: texaspt2003

To: physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:08 PM

Subject: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: Physical therapy billing

Looking for some billing assistance myself; I sent you an email a
while back but have not heard anything.






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> questions you might have about billing problems. You may e-mail
> questions and at my earliest convenience will answer them.




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Hi,
I plan to start my own Home Health business very soon.The problem is
that I do not have any idea where to begin and what to look for.
Please help by giving some advice , references or anything that
might be of help
Thanks

Corporate Physical Therapist

Part or Full-Time, stock and/or salary dependant upon experience

Work primarily from home and occasionally on-site at various South
Bay (Silicon Valley area) prototype clinics.

Summary:

The Corporate Physical Therapist will provide the clinical expertise
to develop and supervise the entry of therapeutic exercise and
evaluation protocols into this customer's proprietary hardware and
software technology.

Position Requirements:

* CA licensed PT (higher or additional certification a plus)

* Strong knowledge of therapeutic exercise and evaluation protocols

* Strong knowledge of muscle-skeletal anatomy and function

* Excellent Verbal and Written Communication Skills

*Self-Starter

* Computer Literate (MS Office)

* Comfortable Learning and Using New Software

* Ability to work from home and occasionally drive to South Bay
prototype clinics

* Ability to provide clinical guidance to the Software Development
Team

* Ability to sign and abide by a non-disclosure agreement

This customer offers:

* Flexible Hours

* Ability to Work From Home

* A Ground floor Opportunity to Work with a Leading-Edge Technology

Hello everyone. I just started a new website for Rehab professionals
where you can chat, post a message on the forum or POST JOBS FOR FREE!
Go to my website. I'm also looking for sponsors and partner sites.
www.therapywizards.com

Hello folks

I am planning to attend PTA classes starting September 2005 and I was
wondering if getting a job as a PT Aide will help me to get in a PTA
school and make connections.

In the orientation of the PTA program that I had attended, the
instructor said, most institutions are replacing Aides with PTAs
because of new regulations and constraints.

But for somebody who is planning to be a PTA, what would be the best
employment background/experience? I thought it would be to start as
an aide.

What do you guys think?

(Oh by the way I am a certified massage therapist now)

Hi,

Good luck in PTA school.
I think that it would be far more beneficial to volunteer regularly
in a Rehab Unit or in a PT Dept of a hospital than to become an
aide.  You would benefit from the exposure to a variety of Diagnosis'
The fact that you know massage means that you know one aspect of PT.
Rather than finding an aide position that utilizes something you
know, you could learn other aspects that you don't.

Charlene, P.T.

Home health is very complicated.  Are you saying that you would like
to open up an Agency with PT, OT, ST, Nursing, MSW etc? Billing
Medicare part A or a Part B practice?

Don Fernandez
Sequoia Consulting, Inc.               
4848 San Felipe Rd              (408) 274-4364 Voice
#150-312                        (408) 516-9832 Fax
San Jose, CA  95135       (408) 482-3327 Cell
don@sequoia-partners

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlene Anderson, PT [mailto:charanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:04 PM
To: physical_therapists_in_business@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [physical_therapists_in_business] Re: Home Health Business

Home health is very complicated.  Are you saying that you would like
to open up an Agency with PT, OT, ST, Nursing, MSW etc? Billing
Medicare part A or a Part B practice?




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----- Original Message -----
From: "ronald456" <ronald456@...>
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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:02 PM
Subject: [physical_therapists_in_business] www.therapywizards.com


> Hello everyone. I just started a new website for Rehab professionals
> where you can chat, post a message on the forum or POST JOBS FOR FREE!
> Go to my website. I'm also looking for sponsors and partner sites.
> www.therapywizards.com
>
>
>

Starting a new clinic, would you recommend doing billing yourself
initially?  What are some good companies that do billing and what are
some good resources if it is done in house?  Also, what are you guys
typically charged by billing companies?

Thanks
Daniel

Starting a new clinic, would you recommend doing billing yourself
initially?  What are some good companies that do billing and what are
some good resources if it is done in house?  Also, what are you guys
typically charged by billing companies?

Thanks
Daniel