Greetings all, I'm new here. I have a couple of inquiries for which I am looking for opinions: 1) How does one determine who gets listed in the canon of great ...
Mark McFall
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Jul 23, 2003 6:52 am
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Hi Mark: A great philosopher is somebody you admire....could be your aunt Zelda if she likes to think. A canon list is arbitrary depending on the person making...
brent@...
Jul 23, 2003 3:44 pm
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... Brent, Aren't canons of literature established pretty much by historical consensus? Who decided that Dante's Divine Comedy would become part of the western...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 23, 2003 4:24 pm
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Daniel: That's correct...I was being a bit cavalier no doubt. I was defining canon as anyone who has influenced one's philosophical development, which isn't an...
brent@...
Jul 23, 2003 6:48 pm
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My ID tag is: Mac ... the ... widespread ... say ... worthwhile ... Mac Are you saying you are under the impression that a philosopher is worthy of notable...
Mark McFall
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Jul 23, 2003 11:43 pm
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... I can't speak for "Mac" but we are not talking about the same thing. You are talking about whether someone is a good philosopher. We are talking about the...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 23, 2003 11:55 pm
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... You ... talking ... Mac My apologies for being unclear. I initiated this thread with the intent of discussing what qualifies someone living in ancient...
Mark McFall
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Jul 24, 2003 1:04 am
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I would bet that whom ever is writing the list chooses the philosophers he/she likes the best and believe to be important based on the editors particular...
Laura E Cody
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Jul 24, 2003 5:55 am
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Perhaps I cannot completely answer your questions, but if you read Aristotle, you will notice that he does examine, respond to, and attempt to improve on...
John Humphrey
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Jul 24, 2003 1:50 pm
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As I read your comments, Laura, it occurred to me that (regarding the first question) perhaps it isn't just who one happens to like, but who has addressed the...
John Humphrey
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Jul 24, 2003 1:53 pm
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... I have a cynical bias toward "politically correct" treatments of world literature, the kind of "anything goes" attitude that sees western tradition as...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 24, 2003 4:11 pm
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Daniel: My own opinion is that although much of the 'reevaluation' of the classics that has taken place in the work of feminist and/or multiculturalist authors...
Brent Gudzus
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Jul 24, 2003 4:40 pm
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... I think that is still a different question from who belongs in the canon of world literature. Canons aren't determined by who was a good or bad philosopher...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 24, 2003 4:50 pm
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... Perhaps in the long-run you are right. It just so happens that many of these multi-culturalists, deconstructionists and the like have had their day and...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 24, 2003 5:28 pm
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Greetings again, I'm currently reading through _Essays on the Philosophy of Socrates_ Edited by Hugh Benson. What has heightened my interest while reading is...
Mark McFall
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Jul 28, 2003 8:24 pm
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Is it a true statement that "it was *common* among all the educated Greco-Roman elite to have views favorable to the respect of women." If so, can it be traced...
Mark McFall
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Jul 28, 2003 8:51 pm
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In one of Plato's dialogs he mentions the need to hear what women have to say about things, so the issue was certainly alive in the ancient world....
brent@...
Jul 28, 2003 10:21 pm
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Aristotle gives Socrates credit for Socrates' investigations into the meanings of words, which is much of what the early dialogs are about, so I would say that...
brent@...
Jul 28, 2003 10:24 pm
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... As long we understand that they did not approach these questions the way we do now post-Descartes. Daniel...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 29, 2003 3:59 pm
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Daniel: What do you mean by post-Descartes...the distinction between mind and body? A greater awareness of knowledge, language and thought than the ancients...
brent@...
Jul 29, 2003 9:20 pm
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... I mean what some call "critical realism" -- the view that there is objective reality that can be known with certainty but only through reflexive awareness....
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 30, 2003 4:08 pm
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... philosophers ... editors ... Phil ... include. ... world ... eye of ... value, ... just a ... on the ... shooting ... sight of ... Perhaps in a perfect...
Laura, Philosophy concerns ideas, not the environment in which those ideas are "hatched." The danger most teachers of philosophy ought to avoid is teaching ...
steven bayne
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Jul 31, 2003 11:08 am
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... I intentionally snipped this because part of it was addressed to me. It concerns the bias of those who compile lists of literature and the role of external...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 31, 2003 5:45 pm
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In light of the current discussion, I thought you might find this interesting: "Between 1880 and 1924 there were seven editions of the EUTHYPHRO published in...
John Humphrey
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Jul 31, 2003 6:57 pm
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... Is this really a fashion statement or the fact that a translation can stand the test of time? I thought there were critical editions of the dialogues,...
Daniel Scuiry
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Jul 31, 2003 7:53 pm
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Your point is an extremely important one to make. This change may have been a fashion change for Allen back in 1970 but the problem of inattention to...
steven bayne
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Jul 31, 2003 8:44 pm
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I appreciate that philosophy concerns ideas but ideas are born out of human experience. It has been my experience that to understand a philosophy you need to...
... I resonate with your experience because when I took classes in philosophy we paid no attention to the surrounding culture or society in which these figures...
Daniel Scuiry
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Aug 1, 2003 3:56 pm
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I find it very instructive, Laura, that you ackowledge a very significant consistency, with only minor variations, in the lists you describe. Surely, this...
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