All yours, The 10th International conference on Philosophical Practice. Regards, Anders Holt ... Subject: Announcement 10thICPP Date: Saturday 04 July 2009 ...
Sorry for the delay in approving this post. Lance Fletcher group owner ... Dear Peter, You say in your most recent post that, "Philosophy involves examining ...
As for philosophical counseling or coaching, whatever exactly they are, if it creates anew any openings for the position for the court philosopher or corporate...
Hi Samantha, I like your metaphor of "wrestling with a large alligator." One of the largest alligators I find I have to wrestle with is the problems created ...
Peter Raabe
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Jul 31, 2009 4:58 pm
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Peter Raabe, the "empirical medical evidence" for the genetic vulnerability of a person is that there are or have been before a significant number of cases of...
Hi Carmen, You raise some interesting issues. On genetics: "because it runs in the family" doesn't prove a genetic component or cause. Wife battering also...
Peter Raabe
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Jul 31, 2009 7:30 pm
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Dear Peter, It occurred to me, as I read Your response, that the claim of 'genetic vulnerability' is much like the Hindu concept of karma. It was Bill's karma...
Hi all, Peter writes that philosophy is essentially "examination of beliefs, values, and assumptions". I would like to add that philosophy is not merely an...
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Aug 1, 2009 1:02 pm
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I'm intrigued by the need to distinguish `therapy' from PC. In ancient Greek therapy èåñáðåßá meant`treatment.' Today, a treatment is usually...
There's a rather obvious difference between seeing PC as a therapy (among others) and seeing it as therapeutic. I usually say that PC is, or can be,...
arto tukiainen
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Aug 5, 2009 3:00 pm
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These messages are frequently distorted in the transmission channel. Let's try again :-) To: phil-counsel@yahoogroups.com From: artotukiainen@... Date:...
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Aug 5, 2009 5:11 pm
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Hi Samantha and all, Sorry for the late reply. I'm just back from a week's holidays where I didn't have access to e-mail. I agree with you Samantha, and I...
Peter Raabe
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Aug 11, 2009 12:14 am
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Could we give a clear definition of the difference between something which is a therapy and something which is therapeutic? ... De:...
Are philosophy and wisdom the same thing? If not, what is the difference? ... De: phil-counsel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:phil-counsel@yahoogroups.com] En nombre...
Maybe the traditional view of philosophy as love of wisdom helps. Philosophy is an effort to understand what wisdom is, and to live according to this...
arto tukiainen
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Aug 23, 2009 8:01 pm
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Hi all, Please.... not "love of wisdom" again!!! How does "love of wisdom" explain what philosophy is? Peter ... Maybe the traditional view of philosophy as...
Peter Raabe
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Aug 23, 2009 8:12 pm
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I like to think of it as friendship and wisdom as in philia SOphia "Philia (φιλία philia) It includes loyalty to friends, family, and...
And "to do philosophy" is to be able to take part in a dialogue or debate where different participants have different views about the nature of philosophy. One...
Ora Gruengard
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Aug 24, 2009 3:03 am
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Saying that the aim of PC is wisdom is of course fairly thin and sterile unless one also tells what one means by wisdom. And as Ora and David point out, there...
arto tukiainen
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Aug 24, 2009 6:30 am
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Ciao, Even if Ora's words are so wise, I disagree with Arto and with the wikipedia definition reported by David. Philosophy is not a 'love of wisdom'. Perhaps...
Hi all, I think you're on to something Jon. Music: you can study it; you can listen to it for enjoyment; you can play an instrument or sing.... So what is...
Peter Raabe
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Aug 25, 2009 10:19 pm
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Hi, Peter said - and many others have said - that PC is at least partly an effort to examine the reasons a person has for her beliefs and values. This seems...
arto tukiainen
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Aug 26, 2009 11:11 am
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Arto, Congratulations on having your paper accepted for publication! I'm looking forward to reading it. Peter ... Hi, Peter said - and many others have said -...
Peter Raabe
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Aug 26, 2009 3:42 pm
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I'm still surprised at the consternation over "wisdom." But I think it's not necessary to get stuck on wisdom in order to do philosophy. It's kind of like...
David, you mentioned courage. Elliot D. Cohen has included courage among the virtues that PC (or his own version of PC, LBT) promotes. He mentions several...
arto tukiainen
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Aug 27, 2009 4:03 pm
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I'm back in School working on my Masters in Philosophy. One goal is to become "certified" as a Philosophical Counselor through the APPA or similar...
David, Arto, You seem to be talking about different things: Arto asks a very important question, about the courage "to remove the arrow", i.e. the readiness of...
Ora Gruengard
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Aug 27, 2009 11:38 pm
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There is no sense in trying to foster a virtue that the counselee doesn't see as a virtue, or doesn't see as relevant in her situation. In this sense the...
arto tukiainen
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This gives room to a discussion about those virtues. It is not like discovering that the counselee needs more vitamin v. It is a matter of a moral judgment,...
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