Just to clear things up. The Plants for a Future mailing list is run by me and I
have no connection to the  Vladislav Davidzon or the Regenerative Leadership
Institute. The list is moderated which can mean there is a delay in post getting
through, I try to moderate post within a day. This probably explains why Ossi
message was delayed. I have actually rejected a number of repeated posts from
the Institute, although one did get through. I will generally allow a post if
its on topic, about plants permaculture or sustainable agriculture, this
includes limited on topic announcements. However I limit these to one per event.

Richard

--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Gail <gail1949@...> wrote:
>
> OK, I got the ebook and thought it was decent. I also got one other
> email 'reminding' me that they have lessons and scholarships, one
> message is acceptable, in my opinion. THEN I got this
>
> Hello
>
> As it seems the message below I have tried to post into
> pfaf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:pfaf@yahoogroups.com>  is not getting
> published I'm sending it to you accompanied with a question.  Does
> Vladislav Davidzon have ownership over the forum or does he fund Plants
> for a future?
>
> cordially,
>
> Ossi Kakko,
> Finland

 

I just tasted this year bletted medlar fruits,

really one of my winter favourits .

Anyone out there having any experience in other use of the medlar fruits (Mespilus germanicus)  other than just eating form the tree- miidwintertime, or from the freezer....

.............

And the same question about the sweet smelling Japanese quinces  Chaenomeles japonica.. 

not really edible at all !?

hopefully'

Geir Flatabø

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My Guava tree seems to have developed some disease. Leaves on some branches are
turned red and fruits on these branches are not growing. I request knowledgeable
persons to advise me on the treatment of my tree.

http://www.ibiblio.org/london/pcwiki/index.php/HomePage
   a quick glance tells makes me see nothing but spam. What a shame.***Steph

Zitat von "Ram Bansal, the Theosoph" <rambansal48@...>:

> My Guava tree seems to have developed some disease. Leaves on some
> branches are turned red and fruits on these branches are not
> growing. I request knowledgeable persons to advise me on the
> treatment of my tree.



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Hi,
in pfaf.org,
iris ensata
i. japonica
i. setosa
i. tectorum
are described as havin edible starch in the root, which should be in
eastasia a common product. Does anybody know a source for such a
product or has anyone extracted starch from an iris-root?
***Steph


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A two-day course for anyone who would like to learn how to prune.
12-13 January
15-16 January
10am - 5pm
The course is held in the old apple orchards at Stanmer Park.  Learn how to
improve health and productivity by appropriate pruning.
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Hello,
I wonder if there are any varieties of berberis species breeded for
the edibility of the fruits. A google-search in german doesn't get me
any. We're livin in zone 7b. Greetings from Steph


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Thanx for the Info, Geir. 'Asperma' seems not availible in germany, as
appropriate forums tell. Maybe we're getting ourselves 'orange
king'***Steph

Zitat von Geir Flatabø <geirf@...>:

> I know of noone breeded for that purpose,
> but at least Orange King  have nice tasty berries,
> and there is a  seedless variety of Berberis vulgaris: "Asperma according
> to Krüssmann : Vervendung finden zur herstellung der "Confiture Dèpine
> vinette" in Rouen. I know ther is (was) specimn in Botanical Garden in
> Oslo...
>
> Other nice fruiting barberries are
> B darvinii,  B. dictyophylla, amurensis and aggregata...
>
> The Mahonias are easier to grow to get same "kind"  of berries...
>
> Geir Flatabø
>
> 2013/1/7 Allmende Verden <allmendeperma@...>
>
>> Hello,
>> I wonder if there are any varieties of berberis species breeded for
>> the edibility of the fruits. A google-search in german doesn't get me
>> any. We're livin in zone 7b. Greetings from Steph
>>
>>
>> Allmende e.V.-Gemeinschaftlicher Permakulturgarten für Verden
>> Artilleriestr. 6
>> D-27283 Verden
>> Tel   (+49) 4231- 900 90 15
>> Mobil (+49) 17 66166 8718
>> http://www.allmende.de.vu
>> Kurze und lange Aufenthalte im Gartenprojekt oft möglich!
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>



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From: monkeyandsofia

To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:09 AM

Subject: [pfaf] seeds for epimedium sagittatum and native edible species to W Coast of Americas

 

Hi, am looking for a supplier of the above, plus:
lindera benzoin
eriodictyon californicum
lycium barbarum
murraya koenigii
all vaccinium types
all rubus types

+ satureja douglasii (yerba buena)
All the best
Phil

http://elpocito.wordpress.com 

thanks for replying Bryce.  Horizon Herbs I have bought from before, and are
good.  Will check out the others now.  Anyone else know of a supplier for "Horny
Goat Weed"?
Phil

--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, "Bryce Ruddock"  wrote:
>
> Murraya konigii or Curry Leaf tree, seeds are available from Horizon Herbs.
Lindera benzoin, or Spice Bush from them also but as a plant. Eriodictyon, or
Yerba Santa seeds is at Horizon Herbs also, as is Lycium barbarum,or Goji.
> The Ribes species are found are R leucodermis, the Black Cap raspberry, at
Bountiful Gardens. Also R parviflorus, thimbleberry, at J L Hudson. The R
spectabilis, or Salmonberry seeds can be gotten from J L Hudson also.
> Vaccinium Myrtillus, or bilberry/whortleberry is at both J L Hudson and
Bountiful Gardens. V ovatum, or Evergreen Huckleberry is at J L Hudson and so is
V parviflorum , or Red Huckleberry.
> All sources are west coast US. Addresses as follows:
> Horizon Herbs   www.horizonherbs.com
> Bountiful Gardens   www.bountifulgardens.org
> J L Hudson   www.jlhudsoneeds.net/
>
> Regarding the Horny Goat Weed, Epilobium sagittatum, I was unable to find a
source for the seeds.      Bryce Ruddock
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: monkeyandsofia
>   To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:09 AM
>   Subject: [pfaf] seeds for epimedium sagittatum and native edible species to
W Coast of Americas
>
>
>
>   Hi, am looking for a supplier of the above, plus:
>   lindera benzoin
>   eriodictyon californicum
>   lycium barbarum
>   murraya koenigii
>   all vaccinium types
>   all rubus types
>
>   + satureja douglasii (yerba buena)
>   All the best
>   Phil
>
>   http://elpocito.wordpress.com
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Bryce Ruddock

To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:38 AM

Subject: Re: [pfaf] seeds for epimedium sagittatum and native edible species to W Coast of Americas

 

Murraya konigii or Curry Leaf tree, seeds are available from Horizon Herbs. Lindera benzoin, or Spice Bush from them also but as a plant. Eriodictyon, or Yerba Santa seeds is at Horizon Herbs also, as is Lycium barbarum,or Goji.

The Ribes species are found are R leucodermis, the Black Cap raspberry, at Bountiful Gardens. Also R parviflorus, thimbleberry, at J L Hudson. The R spectabilis, or Salmonberry seeds can be gotten from J L Hudson also.

Vaccinium Myrtillus, or bilberry/whortleberry is at both J L Hudson and Bountiful Gardens. V ovatum, or Evergreen Huckleberry is at J L Hudson and so is V parviflorum , or Red Huckleberry.

All sources are west coast US. Addresses as follows:

Horizon Herbs   www.horizonherbs.com

Bountiful Gardens   www.bountifulgardens.org

J L Hudson   www.jlhudsoneeds.net/

 

Regarding the Horny Goat Weed, Epilobium sagittatum, I was unable to find a source for the seeds.      Bryce Ruddock

   

----- Original Message -----

From: monkeyandsofia

To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:09 AM

Subject: [pfaf] seeds for epimedium sagittatum and native edible species to W Coast of Americas

 

Hi, am looking for a supplier of the above, plus:
lindera benzoin
eriodictyon californicum
lycium barbarum
murraya koenigii
all vaccinium types
all rubus types

+ satureja douglasii (yerba buena)
All the best
Phil

http://elpocito.wordpress.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bryce Ruddock

To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:38 AM

Subject: Re: [pfaf] seeds for epimedium sagittatum and native edible species to W Coast of Americas

 

Murraya konigii or Curry Leaf tree, seeds are available from Horizon Herbs. Lindera benzoin, or Spice Bush from them also but as a plant. Eriodictyon, or Yerba Santa seeds is at Horizon Herbs also, as is Lycium barbarum,or Goji.

The Ribes species are found are R leucodermis, the Black Cap raspberry, at Bountiful Gardens. Also R parviflorus, thimbleberry, at J L Hudson. The R spectabilis, or Salmonberry seeds can be gotten from J L Hudson also.

Vaccinium Myrtillus, or bilberry/whortleberry is at both J L Hudson and Bountiful Gardens. V ovatum, or Evergreen Huckleberry is at J L Hudson and so is V parviflorum , or Red Huckleberry.

All sources are west coast US. Addresses as follows:

Horizon Herbs   www.horizonherbs.com

Bountiful Gardens   www.bountifulgardens.org

J L Hudson   www.jlhudsoneeds.net/

 

Regarding the Horny Goat Weed, Epilobium sagittatum, I was unable to find a source for the seeds.      Bryce Ruddock

   

----- Original Message -----

From: monkeyandsofia

To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:09 AM

Subject: [pfaf] seeds for epimedium sagittatum and native edible species to W Coast of Americas

 

Hi, am looking for a supplier of the above, plus:
lindera benzoin
eriodictyon californicum
lycium barbarum
murraya koenigii
all vaccinium types
all rubus types

+ satureja douglasii (yerba buena)
All the best
Phil

http://elpocito.wordpress.com 

Thanks Also only just joined this. PFAF are doing such wonderful work! It may
take some time for me to get used to all this way of communicating but I hope to
get to contribute in the not too far future.... I also have a Google + side
(still needs lots of development in future..., Yoke....see: Yoke's Magic Garden

--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Sam Schaperow  wrote:
>
> Wow!  I've looked at the PFAF website so many times for so long, but never
> delved deeper into it to see that it has a yahoo group.  Anyway, I'm
> excited to learn fro this group and contribute as well.
>
> I've done a little foraging starting in the early 80s, but only became more
> serious about it in the 90s when I took a biology course at UCONN that
> included a section on foraging plants and mushrooms.  At this stage in my
> life I'm quite experienced as a forager and a decent gardener, too.  :)
>
> My media experiences include:
>
http://m.theday.com/article/20120819/BIZ02/308199974/1070/mobile&template=mobile
>
> I also have a special interest in unlocking the edibility potential of
> plants & mushrooms otherwise thought "inedible" or "toxic".
>
> Here are the groups I run/moderate:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MushroomTalk (I help moderate this group in
> conjunction w/the owner, and this is the world's most active Yahoo mushroom
> group)
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PlantForagers (small but active)
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MushroomHorticulture
>
> --
> Sam Schaperow, B.S., M.S.*
> *Foraging.Posterous.com*
> *
>

Gardenstart all over the land
workcamp while spring´s awakening in 2 emancipatory gardening-projects
18.-20.3.2013 near Döbeln (Germany), 24.-29.3. in Verden (each plus a
day of arrival and departure)
http://oekogarten.jugend-umweltbuero.info
http://allmende.de.vu (vegan gardening)

when the snow has melted and the ground has thawed very many actions
take place in gardens.
We want to go about doing gardenstart together with activ people from
the projects and guests: Working together, learn from each other,
spend time in the group, discuss, cook, party and hanging around.
At the first station in Döbeln, it is mainly going to be pruning,
where we are going to teach ourselves techniques with the help of
literature and a few before / after videos. Trees can be planted in
Verden, beds are prepared and the first vegetables are sowed.
We invite you to join in the ?spring-workcamp-caravan?. The following
things we´re requesting from participants:
*announce early and binding. There are only limited places. You can
also take part only for a certain time of the caravan.
*from the participants we wish a fee for the costs of the food
(they´re gona be low, there´s gona be some dumpsterdiving and
scrounging). The accomodation is gona be in heated rooms and
sleepingbags. Weatherproof workclothes you have to bring yourself.
* everyone should be able to feel good on the camp and so should be
save from violations of his or her personal borders. Everyone should
be able here to tinker with him/herselfs identity and shouldn´t be
pushed in a certain one. So bloke-behavior and homophobia would be out
of place. For these things everybody should take responsibility.

gartenstart@... or +4917661668718 (Verden), +493431/5894177 (Döbeln)

I don't know about you, but I just don't open any attachments on any emails I
receive when all they say is hello and and give a link!

:)   frank

here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&gl=US&client=mv-google&v=Df2Ymn8ilOw&p=7E8\
E040D74B47E11



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