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#4721 From: "velnatarajan" <velnatarajan6@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 8:42 pm
Subject: Question on PFAF Database hardiness Zone classifications.
velnatarajan
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I looked up a few plants in the database and found that under Cultivation, they
say:
"It is hardy to zone 0."

There is apparently no "Zone 0",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardiness_zone

...so does anyone know what the error means, and what the growing zone is
actually for these plants?

I've seen this so far for 2 plants that I've looked up:
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Cuscuta+chinensis
and
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Sparganium+stoloniferum

Thanks.

Regards,
Vel N.

#4722 From: "Ossi Kakko" <ossi@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 8:59 am
Subject: Re: Re: fermented wild greens ?
ossi@...
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Yes, and eastern finnish shifting cultivators used to ferment at least
Urtica dioicea, Cirsium heterophyllum, C. Arvense and Heracleum sibiricum
just the way like the cherokee or nepalese -  without milk - just the
veggies - and they're even more full of probiotics too ...

Ossi Kakko


> In literature of what eskimos and Lappish people  have been
> eating.......... fermenting wild greens like Rhodiola , Cochlearia and
> Angelica  are mentioned in reindeer or seal stomachs with reindeer
> milk... (Porsild ?).
>
> Geir Flatabø
>
> 2009/12/4 Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...>
>
>>
>>
>>   The reason I use whey (from yogurt) to ferment is that it has
>> probiotics, which I think is advantageous if the recipe calls for that
>> type
>> of fermentation.  Any veggie can be used.  You can use goat yogurt, too,
>> which I think is better than cow yogurt.  Yogurt is easy to make...just
>> bring 4 c milk (goat or cow) almost to boil, take off heat & put in
>> glass
>> bowl & cover w/ towel for 50 minutes, then mix in 2 T plain yogurt mixed
>> with 2 T milk & add to your cooled milk.  Store in a thermos that is
>> covered
>> with a folded towel or washcloth & let sit about 8-10 hours or until
>> thickened, then refrigerate.
>> Gail
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Laury Carter <claury@...>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Laury Carter <claury@...>
>> Subject: [pfaf] Re: fermented wild greens ?
>> To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 12:39 PM
>>
>>
>> Thank you all so much for this interesting discussion! I have been
>> making
>> kimchee for years, thanks to having the pleasure of hosting S. Korean
>> students, but I thought the fermentation was related to the cabbage and
>> bok
>>
>> choy only.
>>
>> Clearly I didn't think very hard! btw, I find that sea salt works well
>> but
>> iodized salt leaves a bitter taste.
>>
>> I am looking forward to using this new info.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Laury
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

#4723 From: Anna Janek <annakamenska@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Edible grasses in common "lawn"?
annakamenska
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also Violets the whole thing roots,leaves and flowers
 
Anna


From: Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...>
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 9:55:44 AM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Edible grasses in common "lawn"?

 

this is not a grass, but it is found in the common lawn, and all parts are not only edible, but extremely good for your liver.  It is the common dandelion.
Gail

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Ossi Kakko <ossi@...> wrote:

From: Ossi Kakko <ossi@...>
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Edible grasses in common "lawn"?
To: pfaf@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:36 PM

 
Hard to say exactly as I have no idea what is the common lawn, but I have
an idea. First check if there are poisonous grasses at all in your area.
In Finland there actually are no poisonous grasses (or one suspectible,
which is very rare) and therefore I have juiced all the grasses for green
drinks... But ... It's +10 years since I have lived in city and been in
to a "common lawn" ... actually there might be also some issues issues
with parasites, like f.e. toxoplasmosis if there are cats around etc...
Besides of grasses there might be some edible herbacious plants around.

Ossi Kakko,
Finland

> Are there any edible grasses found in the common lawn?
>




#4724 From: "Gurpreet" <hortishoppe@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: Geranium type-a new lemongrass oil for soaps/candles/aromatherapy
hortishoppe
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Geranium type-a new lemongrass oil for soaps/candles/aromatherapy

A "new" clone/genotype of lemongrass has been developed which has "CITRONELLOL"
and "GERANIOL", similar to "Oil of Gearnium"
Thus it has a Rose-Geranium type note, with a shade of "fresh-lime"

This is a cheaper substitute for oil of geranium, and very well suited for
soaps, candles and aromatheapy etc

For more info, including GCMS etc please contact by email

Kind Regards
Gurpreet Singh

earthy_essences@...

#4725 From: Geir Flatabø <geirf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Edible grasses in common "lawn"?
geirflatab
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And caraway
if it is allowed to reseed..

Geir Flatabø

2009/12/4 Anna Janek <annakamenska@...>


also Violets the whole thing roots,leaves and flowers
 
Anna


From: Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...>
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 9:55:44 AM

Subject: Re: [pfaf] Edible grasses in common "lawn"?

 

this is not a grass, but it is found in the common lawn, and all parts are not only edible, but extremely good for your liver.  It is the common dandelion.
Gail

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Ossi Kakko <ossi@...> wrote:

From: Ossi Kakko <ossi@...>
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Edible grasses in common "lawn"?
To: pfaf@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:36 PM

 
Hard to say exactly as I have no idea what is the common lawn, but I have
an idea. First check if there are poisonous grasses at all in your area.
In Finland there actually are no poisonous grasses (or one suspectible,
which is very rare) and therefore I have juiced all the grasses for green
drinks... But ... It's +10 years since I have lived in city and been in
to a "common lawn" ... actually there might be also some issues issues
with parasites, like f.e. toxoplasmosis if there are cats around etc...
Besides of grasses there might be some edible herbacious plants around.

Ossi Kakko,
Finland

> Are there any edible grasses found in the common lawn?
>







#4726 From: matthew@...
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Question on PFAF Database hardiness Zone classifications.
matthew_sleigh
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Here is a good Dodder page:
http://www.floridata.com/ref/c/cusc_spp.cfm

Most Cuscuta are annual. The seeds can survive high and low temperatures,
hardiness depends more on the hosts, and season length (if the season is too
short, Dodder may not have time to fruit) than the average yearly minimum
temperature. Under warmer conditions some Cuscuta can be perennial.

Sparganium eurycarpum (syn Sparganium stoloniferum) is hardy to USDA zone 5:
http://b-and-t-world-seeds.com/carth.asp?species=Sparganium%20eurycarpum&sref=83\
568

All the best,
Matthew

Matthew Sleigh
P-2, North Poblacion
Don Carlos, Bukidnon
8712
Philippines

Matthew Sleigh
B and T World Seeds
Paguignan
34210 Aigues-Vives
France
matthew@...
http://b-and-t-world-seeds.com/
fax ++ 33 (0) 4 68 91 30 39

----- Original Message -----
From: velnatarajan6@...
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 12/6/09 12:17 PM
Subject: [pfaf] Question on PFAF Database hardiness Zone classifications.

I looked up a few plants in the database and found that under Cultivation, they
say:
"It is hardy to zone 0."

There is apparently no "Zone 0",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardiness_zone

....so does anyone know what the error means, and what the growing zone is
actually for these plants?

I've seen this so far for 2 plants that I've looked up:
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Cuscuta+chinensis
and
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Sparganium+stoloniferum

Thanks.

Regards,
Vel N.



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#4727 From: "giantgardener" <giantgardener@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 11:51 am
Subject: Plants database
giantgardener
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Hi, everyone.

Wow.  A yahoo group dedicated to PFAF.  What luck! Have used PFAF for some time
now, and admire Ken Fern for compiling such an extensive labor of love.

Has anyone here ever used the Compleat Botanica database software by Crescent
Bloom?  Is it as extensive as it claims?  I've been searching for an adaptable
botanical software program, and none so far allow user specific field additions.
This one claims to.

#4728 From: "alexsproutchicken" <alexsproutchicken@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: Stevia Rebaudiana seeds
alexsproutch...
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Hello David

  thanks for the info, I ordered some from nickys-nursery and after the first lot
getting lost in the post i received them, whenI had a look at them they where
all tan colour, simon hickmont in future foods sayes Stevia produce 2 kinds of
seeds, fertile black one's and non viable tan colour seeds, have you had succes
with seeds from nickys nursery before of where your seeds from a different
source and can you rember the colour. the Scotish nursery with the plants is
www.poyntzfieldherbs.co.uk , if i have no luck with the germination I will try
them. Thanks for your tips about germination.

Alex

--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, david.keltie@... wrote:
>
> Here you go:
>
>
http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?anchor=top&SA\
SSpage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nickys-nursery.co.uk%2F&keywords=stevia&B1=+++Search+++
>
> Warning - they're difficult to germinate. However, I've had some success
> with putting them on wet kitchen roll, then sealing in a freezer bag. Need
> to be left on a window sill - they need light to germinate.
>
> Also there is a place in Scotland that sells the plants but I can't now
> trace the URL....
>
> Hope this helps, David
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM, alexsproutchicken <
> alexsproutchicken@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi, I have been trying to get hold of some Stevia seeds in the UK and not
> > been able to, can anyone recommend any seed merchants that can supply them
> > or I you have some saved ones and can spare a few that would be brilliant.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#4729 From: david.keltie@...
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Stevia Rebaudiana seeds
davekeltieuk
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Can't remember the colour, sorry. Around 10 germinated but I've now
only got 4 I'm growing (slowly) on.

You should email nickys-nursery the info you have - I've always found
them very accommodating...

Cheers, David

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM, alexsproutchicken
<alexsproutchicken@...> wrote:
>
> Hello David
>
>  thanks for the info, I ordered some from nickys-nursery and after the first
lot getting lost in the post i received them, whenI had a look at them they
where all tan colour, simon hickmont in future foods sayes Stevia produce 2
kinds of seeds, fertile black one's and non viable tan colour seeds, have you
had succes with seeds from nickys nursery before of where your seeds from a
different source and can you rember the colour. the Scotish nursery with the
plants is www.poyntzfieldherbs.co.uk , if i have no luck with the germination I
will try them. Thanks for your tips about germination.
>
> Alex
>
> --- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, david.keltie@... wrote:
>>
>> Here you go:
>>
>>
http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?anchor=top&SA\
SSpage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nickys-nursery.co.uk%2F&keywords=stevia&B1=+++Search+++
>>
>> Warning - they're difficult to germinate. However, I've had some success
>> with putting them on wet kitchen roll, then sealing in a freezer bag. Need
>> to be left on a window sill - they need light to germinate.
>>
>> Also there is a place in Scotland that sells the plants but I can't now
>> trace the URL....
>>
>> Hope this helps, David
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM, alexsproutchicken <
>> alexsproutchicken@...> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi, I have been trying to get hold of some Stevia seeds in the UK and not
>> > been able to, can anyone recommend any seed merchants that can supply them
>> > or I you have some saved ones and can spare a few that would be brilliant.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

#4730 From: "CatLoveMama" <beitharmony@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:46 pm
Subject: Olive leaf extract
boisenberryf...
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What would be the best way to extract the essence from the olive leaf?
I'd like to start using this protocol for health reasons and have some organic
leaves. My googling hasn't returned any useful methods. Can you help?

Thank you,
Joy
Indigo Animal Rescue Worldwide

#4731 From: Michael Porter <michaels4gardens@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: Olive leaf extract
michaels4gar...
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I soak mine in 80 proof vodka, for a few weeks, --and then use the resulting tincture, -

--- On Sun, 12/13/09, CatLoveMama <beitharmony@...> wrote:

From: CatLoveMama <beitharmony@...>
Subject: [pfaf] Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 12:46 PM

 
What would be the best way to extract the essence from the olive leaf?
I'd like to start using this protocol for health reasons and have some organic leaves. My googling hasn't returned any useful methods. Can you help?

Thank you,
Joy
Indigo Animal Rescue Worldwide


#4732 From: Elaine Sommers <elainesommers@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:43 am
Subject: RE: Olive leaf extract
elainesommers44
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Hi Joy, what can the olive leaf essence be used for?
 
I also make tinctures using vodka, or brandy sometimes. It is an excellent way of extraction. I have used it successfully with cleavers (galium aparine) which has been used to aid sufferers of psoriasis.
Elaine. 

"We are shaped and fashioned by what we love"
  Goethe
 
"Losing your mind can be a peak experience!"
  Jane Wagner
 
"Our nature lies in movement; complete calm is death."
  Blaise Pascal
 
". . . the greatest peril of life lies in the fact that human food consists entirely of souls. All the creatures that we have to kill to eat, all those that we have to strike down and destroy to make clothes for ourselves, have souls, souls that do not perish with the body . . . All that exists lives."
 
from 'Shaman, the wounded healer' by J. Halifax, 1982




 

To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
From: beitharmony@...
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:46:11 +0000
Subject: [pfaf] Olive leaf extract

 
What would be the best way to extract the essence from the olive leaf?
I'd like to start using this protocol for health reasons and have some organic leaves. My googling hasn't returned any useful methods. Can you help?

Thank you,
Joy
Indigo Animal Rescue Worldwide




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#4733 From: Peter Ellis <peter.ellis@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:39 pm
Subject: RE: Olive leaf extract
istracpsboss
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The message <SNT131-w33098EF11A1A1E32C8561ED1890@...>
from Elaine Sommers <elainesommers@...> contains these words:

> Hi Joy, what can the olive leaf essence be used for?



> I also make tinctures using vodka, or brandy sometimes. It is an
> excellent way of extraction. I have used it successfully with cleavers
> (galium aparine) which has been used to aid sufferers of psoriasis.

> Elaine.


I'm intrigued too, as I live surrounded by olive groves.

I use rakija, being inexpensive local alcohol, to make a horse chestnut
tincture for varicose veins.

Cheers

Peter

#4734 From: Infowolf1@...
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:48 am
Subject: Re: Olive leaf extract
infowolf1
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anti fungal, anti viral, anti bacterial, helps lower blood pressure.
Other stuff too, I'm sure, but that's what I use it for.
 
Mary Christine
 
In a message dated 12/14/2009 4:03:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, peter.ellis@... writes:
 

The message <SNT131-w33098EF11A1A1E32C8561ED1890@phx.gbl>
from Elaine Sommers <elainesommers@live.com> contains these words:

> Hi Joy, what can the olive leaf essence be used for?

> I also make tinctures using vodka, or brandy sometimes. It is an
> excellent way of extraction. I have used it successfully with cleavers
> (galium aparine) which has been used to aid sufferers of psoriasis.

> Elaine.

I'm intrigued too, as I live surrounded by olive groves.

I use rakija, being inexpensive local alcohol, to make a horse chestnut
tincture for varicose veins.

Cheers

Peter


#4735 From: "j.sherri" <beitharmony@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: Olive leaf extract
boisenberryf...
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Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy

#4736 From: Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
gardenchick1949
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According to wikipedia, there is recorded evidence of olive leaf's medicinal use which dates back thousands of years: it was used by ancient Egyptian and Mediterranean cultures to treat a variety of health conditions, so it can't be that hard for us to extract it, too.  I did a google search for olive leaf extract how to make, and this is what I found:

Put 8 oz. of olive leaves and pour 1 gallon of water into your crock-pot. Turn the heat on "low." (You want the heat to be around 175-185 degrees Fahrenheit. Because crock-pots can differ, use the cooking thermometer to check the heat after the crock-pot has warmed. Adjust the settings accordingly and test again after the crock-pot has had time to reach the new temperature. This can take around 15 minutes.)

After the crock-pot has achieved the correct temperature, cover the mixture and allow it to simmer for 12 hours. Periodically check the water level and add a little more water if needed.

After 12 hours, turn off the crock-pot. Allow the olive leaf extract to cool for five to six hours.

Pour the finished extract into a glass container, seal and store in your refrigerator.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5344982_make-olive-leaf-extract.html?ref=fuel&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art

Gail


From: j.sherri <beitharmony@...>
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 5:34:35 AM
Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract

 

Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy



#4737 From: Linda Morris <merryanne1947@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
merryanne1947
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Hello, I am Linda and I live in Florida in the USA,,I am learning about making medicine, so far I have only filled capsules with what I have ordered.  But I have a book that was written 10 years ago an it tells all abut making tinures using root, leaves or bark or fruits,,,I have not read it all yet,,I work 40 hours a week at night then sleep, when I am off I have not gotten much accomplished in my medicine making,,,,but I will research this for you and try to get the information back to you....if you will send me your mailing address I will copy the pages and mail them to you,,Linda

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, j.sherri <beitharmony@...> wrote:

From: j.sherri <beitharmony@...>
Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:34 AM

 
Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy


#4738 From: Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
gardenchick1949
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Linda, what is the name of your book & who is the author?
Gail


From: Linda Morris <merryanne1947@...>
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 7:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract

 

Hello, I am Linda and I live in Florida in the USA,,I am learning about making medicine, so far I have only filled capsules with what I have ordered.  But I have a book that was written 10 years ago an it tells all abut making tinures using root, leaves or bark or fruits,,,I have not read it all yet,,I work 40 hours a week at night then sleep, when I am off I have not gotten much accomplished in my medicine making,,,,but I will research this for you and try to get the information back to you....if you will send me your mailing address I will copy the pages and mail them to you,,Linda

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, j.sherri <beitharmony@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: j.sherri <beitharmony@ gmail.com>
Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:34 AM

 
Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy



#4739 From: "Mohammed Alal Khan" <makhan@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
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Hello Linda,

I have seen your email, my self is the manufacturer of extracts. My address is

Mohammed Alal Khan

13, Lakeview Drive, Kippens , NL, A2N 3B9 Canada

Regards

Khan

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract

 

Hello, I am Linda and I live in Florida in the USA,,I am learning about making medicine, so far I have only filled capsules with what I have ordered.  But I have a book that was written 10 years ago an it tells all abut making tinures using root, leaves or bark or fruits,,,I have not read it all yet,,I work 40 hours a week at night then sleep, when I am off I have not gotten much accomplished in my medicine making,,,,but I will research this for you and try to get the information back to you....if you will send me your mailing address I will copy the pages and mail them to you,,Linda

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, j.sherri <beitharmony@gmail.com> wrote:

From: j.sherri <beitharmony@gmail.com>
Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:34 AM

 
Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy


#4740 From: "CatLoveMama" <beitharmony@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Olive leaf extract
boisenberryf...
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I did see that process - it seems to be the only one accessible on google. Now
how did the ancient Egyptians go about making it if they didn't have that crock
pot, that's what I'd like to know ;)

Here's what I did today though, my first batch - picked a few leaves, washed
them, soaked them overnight, boiled them, then turned off the heat and just let
the covered pot sit there till it cooled completely. Afterwards took about half
the liquid and the leaves and put that into a food processor and pulverized.
Then took that mixture and put it through a sieve, pouring it then into the rest
of the liquid.

It turned a really dark green - which I think is good.

Maybe I will try to reduce it all by heating it somewhat and let the liquid
evaporate by 1/3 or so. This will only last refrigerated - still have to figure
out a way to get the nutrients but still extend its shelf life without the
alcohol-soaking process. Maybe add some GSE as a preservative?

Blessings,
Joy


--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...> wrote:
>
> According to wikipedia, there is recorded evidence of olive leaf's medicinal
use which dates back thousands of years: it was used by ancient Egyptian and
Mediterranean cultures to treat a variety of health conditions, so it can't be
that hard for us to extract it, too.  I did a google search for olive leaf
extract how to make, and this is what I found:
> Put 8 oz. of olive leaves and pour 1 gallon of water into your crock-pot. Turn
the heat on "low." (You want the heat to be around 175-185 degrees Fahrenheit.
Because crock-pots can differ, use the cooking thermometer to check the heat
after the crock-pot has warmed. Adjust the settings accordingly and test again
after the crock-pot has had time to reach the new temperature. This can take
around 15 minutes.)
> After the crock-pot has achieved the correct temperature, cover the mixture
and allow it to simmer for 12 hours. Periodically check the water level and add
a little more water if needed.
> After 12 hours, turn off the crock-pot. Allow the olive leaf extract to cool
for five to six hours.
> Pour the finished extract into a glass container, seal and store in your
refrigerator.
>
http://www.ehow.com/how_5344982_make-olive-leaf-extract.html?ref=fuel&utm_source\
=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art Gail
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: j.sherri <beitharmony@...>
> To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 5:34:35 AM
> Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
>
>  
> Hi Peter, Mary and All,
>
> I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
> intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
> doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
> distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
> really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
> leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
> scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
> tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant> oleuropein
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
> polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavonoid>
> including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal> that
> need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
> the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
> whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
> capsules and down them that way?
>
> I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
> done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
> with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
> and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
> a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.
>
> Blessings,
> Joy
>

#4741 From: "CatLoveMama" <beitharmony@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: Olive leaf extract
boisenberryf...
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Peter,

Did you test the extract with any kind of ailment? What were/are the results?

Blessings,
Joy





--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Infowolf1@... wrote:
>
> anti fungal, anti viral, anti bacterial, helps lower blood pressure.
> Other stuff too, I'm sure, but that's what I use it for.
>
> Mary Christine
>
>
> In a message dated 12/14/2009 4:03:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> peter.ellis@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> The message <_SNT131-w33098EF11A1SNT131-w33098EF1SNT131-w_
> (mailto:SNT131-w33098EF11A1A1E32C8561ED1890@...) >
> from  Elaine Sommers <_elainesommers@elaineso_
> (mailto:elainesommers@...) >  contains these words:
>
> > Hi Joy, what can the olive leaf essence be  used for?
>
> > I also make tinctures using vodka, or brandy sometimes.  It is an
> > excellent way of extraction. I have used it successfully with  cleavers
> > (galium aparine) which has been used to aid sufferers of  psoriasis.
>
> > Elaine.
>
> I'm intrigued too, as I live surrounded  by olive groves.
>
> I use rakija, being inexpensive local alcohol, to make  a horse chestnut
> tincture for varicose  veins.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>

#4742 From: Peter Ellis <peter.ellis@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
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Hi Joy

Horse chestnut is widely used in commercial gels for rubbing on to
strengthen veins and prevent varicose veins. I've a book which
recommended crushing them in vodka and leaving them to steep for a
month, then filtering and using gelatine to create a gel. I can buy
rakija (schnapps) locally very cheaply. Every farmer around here makes
the stuff as stills are legal here. I pay around two dollars a litre for
it so there was no point in using vodka!
This is the first year I've made it, so I cannot yet comment on its efficacy.
I'd not heard of olive leaf tinctures before but there seems to be
plenty on the internet recommending it. Since I'm surrounded by olive
groves I thought I'd have a go.
I'm very pleased that it was raised here.

Cheers

Peter



The message <hgb5e3+evls@eGroups.com>
from "CatLoveMama" <beitharmony@...> contains these words:

> Peter,

> Did you test the extract with any kind of ailment? What were/are the
> results?

> Blessings,
> Joy





> --- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Infowolf1@... wrote:
> >
> > anti fungal, anti viral, anti bacterial, helps lower blood pressure.
> > Other stuff too, I'm sure, but that's what I use it for.
> >
> > Mary Christine
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/14/2009 4:03:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > peter.ellis@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The message <_SNT131-w33098EF11A1SNT131-w33098EF1SNT131-w_
> > (mailto:SNT131-w33098EF11A1A1E32C8561ED1890@...) >
> > from  Elaine Sommers <_elainesommers@elaineso_
> > (mailto:elainesommers@...) >  contains these words:
> >
> > > Hi Joy, what can the olive leaf essence be  used for?
> >
> > > I also make tinctures using vodka, or brandy sometimes.  It is an
> > > excellent way of extraction. I have used it successfully with  cleavers
> > > (galium aparine) which has been used to aid sufferers of  psoriasis.
> >
> > > Elaine.
> >
> > I'm intrigued too, as I live surrounded  by olive groves.
> >
> > I use rakija, being inexpensive local alcohol, to make  a horse chestnut
> > tincture for varicose  veins.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Peter
> >




> ------------------------------------

> Yahoo! Groups Links

#4743 From: Michael Porter <michaels4gardens@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
michaels4gar...
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"I need them for an internal fungal situation"  - look in to Kombocha Tea

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, j.sherri <beitharmony@...> wrote:

From: j.sherri <beitharmony@...>
Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:34 AM

 
Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy

#4744 From: Steve <permalove@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year)
icculus2000
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Mushrooms!
I thought this might interest you.. 11 months after inoculation, I'm
seeing some action on my christmas tree trunks ("harvested" from our
neighbourhood area right before tree collection time last year).
For those of you not living in Bermuda, businesses import thousands of
conifers every year so folks can have a christmas tree on a
subtropical island in the middle of the atlantic ocean, and then they
collect them in trucks after twelfth night.
I find this extremely wasteful, so I decided to get some yield from
it.  A friend and I split an order from Fungi Perfecti (owned and
operated by mushroom guru Paul Stamets) in Washington State, USA.

With better care (these were just tossed to the back of a garden bed
in the shade and covered with burlap), and maybe some closer
monitoring of conditions, we could get something exciting going.
This year I will be doing trials of inoculation by spores fom the old
stock (and so hopefully I'll only have to pay for plug spawn once)..
I'll also be soaking my logs first.

More photos to come.  Questions and comments welcome.

Peace and love,

Steve.

--
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. Whenever
governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people,
they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army
upon their ruins."

~ Elbridge Gerry

1 of 1 Photo(s)


#4745 From: "Yochanan" <yburkett@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: Olive leaf extract
yburkett
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A combination of alcohol and distilled water is needed to extract all of the
constituants of the leaves. For example, alcohol is needed to extract the
alkaloids, whereas the distilled water is needed to extract the saponins. For
leaves, a 50/50 solution of pure grain alcohol and distilled water works fine.
100 proof vodka is a 50/50 solution of alcohol and water, but the water is NOT
distilled, so it is inferior. There are more advanced processes that take the
preparation a step further by evaporating the alcohol, and then adding glycerin.
The obvious disadvantage is shelf life. Alcoholic tinctures can last up to ten
years, but the glycerin extracts are only good for about a year. Taking ground
leaves in glycerin capsules ensures all the nutrients are present, but again the
shelf life is limited to about a year.

In view of the coming CODEX requirements, which will rob people of their choices
for nutritional options, I am opting for alcoholic tinctures which wil last a
long time. I have purchased large quantities of powdered herbs, mostly from
www.herbalcom.com because of their low prices. I am satisifed with their quality
as well. I have tinctured the powders in large 1-2 liter jars. I also prepared
large quantities of Lugol's iodine, as it will likely become very scarce in the
near future.

For an example of an advanced extract, see the product line put out by Nature's
Answer, as seen on www.vitacost.com, a low cost distributor. I was impressed
with the quality of their products, having purchased alcohol-free extracts of
Lomatium dissectum and Goldenseal from them. The Lomatium root got rid of my
thrush in a mere three weeks. I simply held the Lomatium root extract in my
mouth for several minutes, several times per day (and night).

John /Israel

--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, "j.sherri" <beitharmony@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter, Mary and All,
>
> I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
> intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
> doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
> distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
> really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
> leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
> scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
> tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant> oleuropein
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
> polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavonoid>
> including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleocanthal> that
> need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
> the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
> whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
> capsules and down them that way?
>
> I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
> done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
> with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
> and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
> a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.
>
> Blessings,
> Joy
>

#4746 From: Linda Morris <merryanne1947@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year) [1 Attachment]
merryanne1947
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HI,,That sounds delicious,,I like to eat mushrooms, with garlic an onion sauteed with vegetables,, To help the growing or sprouting mushroom to get a hold, if you score into the log with an ax or machete to make an opening into the wood it really helps,,,Linda




#4747 From: Linda Morris <merryanne1947@...>
Date: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Olive leaf extract
merryanne1947
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I will find it and give you the information, I was going to check with the second handbook place and find another one,,I hand ordered it from a used book bussiness that does a lot of business selling online,,,Linda

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...> wrote:

From: Gail Lloyd <gardenchick1949@...>
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 12:43 PM

 
Linda, what is the name of your book & who is the author?
Gail


From: Linda Morris <merryanne1947@ yahoo.com>
To: pfaf@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 7:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract

 
Hello, I am Linda and I live in Florida in the USA,,I am learning about making medicine, so far I have only filled capsules with what I have ordered.  But I have a book that was written 10 years ago an it tells all abut making tinures using root, leaves or bark or fruits,,,I have not read it all yet,,I work 40 hours a week at night then sleep, when I am off I have not gotten much accomplished in my medicine making,,,,but I will research this for you and try to get the information back to you....if you will send me your mailing address I will copy the pages and mail them to you,,Linda

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, j.sherri <beitharmony@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: j.sherri <beitharmony@ gmail.com>
Subject: [pfaf] Re: Olive leaf extract
To: pfaf@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:34 AM

 
Hi Peter, Mary and All,

I want to break this down into a science. For some reason, maybe
intuitition just macerating the leaves in alcohol or boiling them
doesn't seem to be the way. Maybe it needs to be a process of
distillation? I know that's so much of a hassle for most of us - who
really does have those fancy set ups or know-how? Maybe to pulverize the
leaves before the tincture in alcohol process? Maybe boiling them,
scraping them or squeezing them through a sieve and then doing the
tincture? From wikipedia it's the *antioxidant
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Antioxidant> oleuropein
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleuropein> and hydroxytyrosol
<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Hydroxytyrosol>, as well as several other
polyphenols and flavonoids <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Flavonoid>
including Oleocanthal <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oleocanthal> that
need to be extracted. Does heat destroy any of them? Would sun light do
the trick equally well with a glycerin base? Or maybe just forgo the
whole maceration and just pulverize the leaves and put them in gelatin
capsules and down them that way?

I need them for an internal fungal situation and probably could have
done well with a good extract 2 weeks ago. The market seems to be afluff
with all kinds of products and it's so hard knowing exactly what's what
and which process is the most effective. Either the experts are keeping
a lid on it in secrecy or else simply nobody knows for sure.

Blessings,
Joy




#4748 From: Diane Lee Long <firstwhitelight@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:18 pm
Subject: Re: Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year) [1 Attachment]
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Dear Steve,
 
Thank you for tis posting.  We have been setting up the past couple of months so we can get the plugs and see what happens.
 
We will be making the rounds to collect the XMas trees as well this year.
 
Keep us informed, we greatly appreciated this posting and picture!
 
Diane




--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Steve <permalove@...> wrote:

From: Steve <permalove@...>
Subject: [pfaf] Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year) [1 Attachment]
To: permalove@...
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:45 AM

 
Mushrooms!
I thought this might interest you.. 11 months after inoculation, I'm
seeing some action on my christmas tree trunks ("harvested" from our
neighbourhood area right before tree collection time last year).
For those of you not living in Bermuda, businesses import thousands of
conifers every year so folks can have a christmas tree on a
subtropical island in the middle of the atlantic ocean, and then they
collect them in trucks after twelfth night.
I find this extremely wasteful, so I decided to get some yield from
it. A friend and I split an order from Fungi Perfecti (owned and
operated by mushroom guru Paul Stamets) in Washington State, USA.

With better care (these were just tossed to the back of a garden bed
in the shade and covered with burlap), and maybe some closer
monitoring of conditions, we could get something exciting going.
This year I will be doing trials of inoculation by spores fom the old
stock (and so hopefully I'll only have to pay for plug spawn once)..
I'll also be soaking my logs first.

More photos to come. Questions and comments welcome.

Peace and love,

Steve.

--
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. Whenever
governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people,
they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army
upon their ruins."

~ Elbridge Gerry


#4749 From: beechpark3@...
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:29 pm
Subject: Owning land some distance away
beechpark3
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Hi All,

 

The dream is owning 5 acres or so mainly for a woodland/orchard.

 

As most of you will know, here in the South East (UK) property with 5 acres is very expensive plus buying land with a property involves the hassle of moving house.

 

Does anyone own a large area of land like this away from their home?  If so, do you think it's worth doing?  How far away is it and do you feel it satisfies the longing for land or is purely a frustration because it's not on your doorstep? We'd be prepared to go up to 15 miles.

 

Town living is better for us as we prefer public transport and like the facilities.  Getting 5 acres near town in this part of the country though is near impossible unless you have a lot of money to burn and want to live in a mansion!

 

Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

 

Judy

 


#4750 From: Michael Porter <michaels4gardens@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year)
michaels4gar...
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good luck Diane, --and Merry Christmas, --  Michael

--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Diane Lee Long <firstwhitelight@...> wrote:

From: Diane Lee Long <firstwhitelight@...>
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year)
To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 5:18 PM

 
Dear Steve,
 
Thank you for tis posting.  We have been setting up the past couple of months so we can get the plugs and see what happens.
 
We will be making the rounds to collect the XMas trees as well this year.
 
Keep us informed, we greatly appreciated this posting and picture!
 
Diane




--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Steve <permalove@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Steve <permalove@gmail. com>
Subject: [pfaf] Phoenix Fir Oyster fruiting on Xmas trees (from last year) [1 Attachment]
To: permalove@gmail. com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:45 AM

 
Mushrooms!
I thought this might interest you.. 11 months after inoculation, I'm
seeing some action on my christmas tree trunks ("harvested" from our
neighbourhood area right before tree collection time last year).
For those of you not living in Bermuda, businesses import thousands of
conifers every year so folks can have a christmas tree on a
subtropical island in the middle of the atlantic ocean, and then they
collect them in trucks after twelfth night.
I find this extremely wasteful, so I decided to get some yield from
it. A friend and I split an order from Fungi Perfecti (owned and
operated by mushroom guru Paul Stamets) in Washington State, USA.

With better care (these were just tossed to the back of a garden bed
in the shade and covered with burlap), and maybe some closer
monitoring of conditions, we could get something exciting going.
This year I will be doing trials of inoculation by spores fom the old
stock (and so hopefully I'll only have to pay for plug spawn once)..
I'll also be soaking my logs first.

More photos to come. Questions and comments welcome.

Peace and love,

Steve.

--
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. Whenever
governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people,
they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army
upon their ruins."

~ Elbridge Gerry


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