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#248 From: Richard Morris <webmaster@...>
Date: Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Kathleen Jannaway
pfafrich
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I'd just like to add a few thoughts:

Kathleen was a big supporter of PFAF and our work and has helped us
through some difficult times.

We can certainly say that she and the MCL have been a big influence
on the ethics behind pfaf. The plant and tree based focus behind MCL
is something we beleive to be very valuable.

I personally never met Kathleen but others in the project have
and talk about her with high regard.

A long time ago before I had ever heard about Plants For A Future
and just after I became a Vegan I found the MCL's booklets and they
were a great infulence on me. I particularly remember the poster
of the tree and all its uses.

I'd like to think that PFAF will help keep the sprit of Katheleens
work alive.

	 Rich

Graham Burnett wrote:
>
> Founder of the Movement for Compassionate Living, author of the inspiring
> book 'Abundant Living in the Coming Age of the Tree' and early vegan pioneer
> Kathleen Jannaway very sadly died earlier today.
>
> >From the MCL website;
> http://www.mclveganway.org.uk/
>
> "We are sad to announce that Kathleen Jannaway,
> co-founder of MCL and former secretary of the Vegan Society (UK),
> passed away peacefully in her sleep early on 27 January 2003, in her local
> cottage hospital."
>
> best wishes to all, Graham
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friends of Plants For A Future membership scheme. Membership is only
Ģ10 a year (Ģ15 overseas) and we are trying to recruit 1000 friends
in the coming year. If we can reach this target then we will be
able to secure the land for our demonstration gardens and visitors
centre in Devon which could become a shining example of woodland
gardening, sustainability, and the use of perennial plants.
See http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/pfaf/friends.html for details.

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#249 From: "bastianklara <lena.israelsson@...>" <lena.israelsson@...>
Date: Mon Feb 3, 2003 3:41 pm
Subject: Siberian ginseng
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Has anyone experience of growing Siberian ginseng  (Eleuterococcus
senticosus? I red somewhere that you can plant a 2 meter high hedge
of Siberian ginseng? Imagine that!!! In China and Russia this plant
is used widely (also by astronauts) because it makes you more stress
tolerant. Itīs interesting that you donīt only use the root, but also
the leaves. If this plant is as fantastic as Russian scientists say,
why donīt we grow it in Europe??
lena i

#250 From: "Boomverzorging VZW" <boomverzorging@...>
Date: Mon Feb 3, 2003 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: Siberian ginseng
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Here in Belgium we grow Eleutherococcus sieboldiana, E. simonii en E. henrii in the garden. E. henrii doesn't grow well, the other are excellent plants that grow rather easy. The name has been changed from Acanthopanax to Eleutherococcus, what could caus esome confusion.
 
Wim peeters
Belgium
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:41 PM
Subject: [pfaf] Siberian ginseng

Has anyone experience of growing Siberian ginseng  (Eleuterococcus
senticosus? I red somewhere that you can plant a 2 meter high hedge
of Siberian ginseng? Imagine that!!! In China and Russia this plant
is used widely (also by astronauts) because it makes you more stress
tolerant. Itīs interesting that you donīt only use the root, but also
the leaves. If this plant is as fantastic as Russian scientists say,
why donīt we grow it in Europe?? 
lena i


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#251 From: "Lena Israelsson" <lena.israelsson@...>
Date: Tue Feb 4, 2003 8:00 am
Subject: Re: Siberian ginseng
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Is Eleutherococcus sieboldiana decorative in the garden, or should it only be growned as a medicinal plant. I also wonder if sieboldiana has the same properties as senticosus.  .
lena i/sweden
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Siberian ginseng

Here in Belgium we grow Eleutherococcus sieboldiana, E. simonii en E. henrii in the garden. E. henrii doesn't grow well, the other are excellent plants that grow rather easy. The name has been changed from Acanthopanax to Eleutherococcus, what could caus esome confusion.
 
Wim peeters
Belgium
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:41 PM
Subject: [pfaf] Siberian ginseng

Has anyone experience of growing Siberian ginseng  (Eleuterococcus
senticosus? I red somewhere that you can plant a 2 meter high hedge
of Siberian ginseng? Imagine that!!! In China and Russia this plant
is used widely (also by astronauts) because it makes you more stress
tolerant. Itīs interesting that you donīt only use the root, but also
the leaves. If this plant is as fantastic as Russian scientists say,
why donīt we grow it in Europe?? 
lena i


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#252 From: "Boomverzorging VZW" <boomverzorging@...>
Date: Tue Feb 4, 2003 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: Siberian ginseng
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As far as I know hass Eleutherococcus sieboldii no medical use. You can find more info at : http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/pfaf/D_search.html
 
The plant has only little ornamental value, no big colourful flowers, nor fruits.
 
Wim peeters
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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Siberian ginseng

Is Eleutherococcus sieboldiana decorative in the garden, or should it only be growned as a medicinal plant. I also wonder if sieboldiana has the same properties as senticosus.  .
lena i/sweden
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pfaf] Siberian ginseng

Here in Belgium we grow Eleutherococcus sieboldiana, E. simonii en E. henrii in the garden. E. henrii doesn't grow well, the other are excellent plants that grow rather easy. The name has been changed from Acanthopanax to Eleutherococcus, what could caus esome confusion.
 
Wim peeters
Belgium
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:41 PM
Subject: [pfaf] Siberian ginseng

Has anyone experience of growing Siberian ginseng  (Eleuterococcus
senticosus? I red somewhere that you can plant a 2 meter high hedge
of Siberian ginseng? Imagine that!!! In China and Russia this plant
is used widely (also by astronauts) because it makes you more stress
tolerant. Itīs interesting that you donīt only use the root, but also
the leaves. If this plant is as fantastic as Russian scientists say,
why donīt we grow it in Europe?? 
lena i


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#253 From: "Ken Fern" <ken.fern@...>
Date: Thu Feb 6, 2003 5:44 am
Subject: Siberian Ginseng
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Siberian ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus) is a very powerful and effective herb that strengthens and balances the immune system. There has been considerable research carried out on the plant, particularly in Russia and China, which has confirmed its many health benefits. If people are interested, I can send them a more detailed info sheet about the medicinal uses than that which appears on the pfaf website. The plant is being grown in the West, though my personal experience of growing it is confined to the one small pot-grown three year old plant that I am currently nurturing with much love in the garden.
 
Siberian ginseng belongs to the same plant family as true ginseng (Panax ginseng) and contains some identical and other quite similar medicinal compounds. It is quite probable that other members of this genus, including Eleutherococcus sieboldianus, also contain these or similar substances and it would be very worthwhile investigating them for medicinal virtues. Indeed, we do have a report that Eleutherococcus sieboldianus is cultivated as a medicinal plant in Japan, but have been unable to obtain any further info on this. If there is anyone out there who can help here, please let us know.
 
Eleutherococcus sieboldianus is proving to be very easy to grow on our Cornwall site and is also easy to propagate from cuttings. It makes a reasonable hedge and the leaves make a pleasant tasting tea. They are also said to make delicious eating when cooked, though I probably have different taste buds to the author of that report!
 
Ken Fern

#254 From: mIEKAL aND <memexikon@...>
Date: Fri Feb 7, 2003 12:34 am
Subject: Re: Siberian Ginseng
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can you say what USDA zone it is hardy to?  golden seal & ginseng of
course grow wild here. zone 4 southwest wisconsin.

mIEKAL


On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:44 PM, Ken Fern wrote:

>
> Eleutherococcus sieboldianus is proving to be very easy to grow on our
> Cornwall site and is also easy to propagate from cuttings. It makes a
> reasonable hedge and the leaves make a pleasant tasting tea. They are
> also said to make delicious eating when cooked, though I probably have
> different taste buds to the author of that report!
>  
> Ken Fern

#255 From: Shannon Meeker <bramble@...>
Date: Fri Feb 7, 2003 8:30 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Does anyone know of a US source for white lupinseeds?  So fara my
search has been to no avail...
Thanks, Dido

#256 From: "propolis" <propolis@...>
Date: Fri Feb 7, 2003 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: (unknown)
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yes in Israel.
Ben
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Subject: [pfaf] (unknown)

Does anyone know of a US source for white lupinseeds?  So fara my
search has been to no avail...
Thanks, Dido

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#257 From: "Robert H. <lostman_amiga@...>" <lostman_amiga@...>
Date: Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:10 pm
Subject: reating change: environmental studies and the arts
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Call for Proposals (Final Announcement)

                                                     creating change:
environmental studies and the arts


April 4-5, 2003

Spelman College

Atlanta, Georgia

                   An intensive two-day conference devoted to exploring
and establishing links between the
                   creative and performing arts and environmental
studies/science. This meeting is intended to bring together
                   ? Creative artists in all disciplines
                   ?sculptors, graphic artists,composers, performing
musicians, video artists and
                   filmmakers, dancer/choreographers, playwrights,
performance artists;
                   ? Scientists, especially those engaged in research
and pedagogy related to the environment;
                   ? Scholars in humanities, fine arts, and
religion/philosophy doing ecocriticism or other work that investigates
ways in
                   which the arts interface with, and re-imagine, the
natural world.

                   ACTIVITIES: A broad range of creative and scholarly
sessions will be
                   scheduled, according to the interests of the
                   participants and invited guests. These may include:
exhibits,
                   performances,lecture-demonstrations, study groups
                   (discussions), paper sessions, and film or video
showings. Facilities at
                   Spelman include state-of-the-art multimedia
                   classrooms, gallery space, and areas in which video,
music, and
                   environmental installations can be realized.

                   POSSIBLE TOPICS AND THEMES:
                   ? Redefining environmental art: new materials and
methods
                   ? Establishing coalitions between artists and
recyclers, manufacturers,
                      environmental justice groups, scientists and
scientific organizations
                   ? Addressing major global environmental issues
(e.g., biodiversity,
                   energy crisis, habitat loss, population growth,
                   environmental racism or colonialism) through
creation and critique in
                   the arts and humanities
                   ? Spiritual and religious dimensions of the dialogue
between artists and
                   environmental scientists
                   ? Cross-disciplinary approaches to sustainable
development
                   ? Multivalent approaches to ecocriticism, including
work in music, art,
                   literature, drama, and religious studies

                   HOW TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS:
                   ? Artists, composers, etc., should send written
descriptions (max. 500
                   words) of their proposed exhibit / performance /
                   demonstration, plus supporting materials appropriate
to the work
                   (e.g., CD, slides, sample video, jpeg graphics of
representative work, etc.).
                   Please feel free to contact the appropriate arts
representative (see below) if you have specific
                      questions about framing a proposal.
                   ? Scholars and critics should send an abstract (max.
250 words) of a
                   proposed paper or lecture-demonstration. If you have
                   a panel proposal, include names of all participants
plus an abstract
                   describing both the overall theme and the nature of
                   each participant's contribution. In all cases,
please indicate
                   institutional affiliation. Paper proposals will also
be
                   considered for inclusion in panels.

                   DEADLINES: If submitting by mail, please postmark no
later than 20
                   February 2003; use one of the contact addresses
                   listed below. If submitting by e-mail, please send
no later than 23
                   February 2003; use one of the e-mail addresses
listed below.

                   STIPENDS: Some assistance is available to cover
selected participants'
                   travel expenses. These funds, provided through the
Associated Colleges of the South, are used to
                   ensure participation by at least five ACS
institutions and
                   to ensure balance, diversity, and excellence in the
final conference
                   offerings. Please indicate your interest in a
stipend, and
                   provide an estimate of your expenses, when you
submit your proposal.

                   CONTACTS:

                                  Environmental Studies/Sciences:
                                         Victor Ibeanusi, Ph.D.
                                         P.O. Box 235
                                         Spelman College
                                         Atlanta, GA 30314
                                         404-223-7641
                                         vibeanus@...

                                  Visual Arts & Art Criticism:
                                         Toby Martin, M.F.A.
                                         P.O. Box 258
                                         Spelman College
                                         Atlanta, GA 30314
                                         404-223-7652
                                         fmartin@...

                                  Music & Humanities:
                                         Lawrence Schenbeck, D.M.A.
                                         P.O. Box 316
                                         Spelman College
                                         Atlanta, GA 30314
                                         404-223-7677
                                         lschenbe@...

#258 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:58 pm
Subject: Fw: Ben Law on TV
quercusrobur...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Permaculture Magazine" <info@...>
To: "GrahamBurnett" <gburnett@...>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:58 PM
Subject: Ben Law on TV


> Dear Graham
>
> Please could you in your capacity as a networker par excellence send this
> out to all lists you know of.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Maddy
>
>
> Permaculture Woodlander on TV!
>
> Ben Law's house is featured on Grand Designs on C4 at 9 pm Weds 26th
> February. It is a beautiful eco house in the woods, designed and built by
> him with volunteers and should be interesting viewing. The majority of his
> materials are either grown by him or resourced locally.
>
> For a preview of what it looks like please go to www.permaculture.co.uk
and
> click on the hotlink on the info button.
>
>

#259 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:59 pm
Subject: Fw: Heart Workshop
quercusrobur...
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:58 PM
Subject: Heart Workshop

Dear Graham

Do you mind circulating this one too!

Love

Maddy

A One Day Workshop
Nurturing the Heart

Led by Maddy Harland and Christine Seaward

An opportunity to relax, reconnect and share inner healing through nature games, songs, poetry and meditations. Come and treat your self to a day of unwinding, resting the body, nurturing the emotions and feeding the soul!

The workshop will be held at:
Threshold Womens' Mental Health Initiative
14 St. Georges' Place
Brighton (10 mins from Brighton Station).  

Please bring a contribution for a shared lunch.

Saturday 29th March 2003
10 - 5 pm
Cost Ģ15

Limited spaces - book early!

Maddy Harland is the editor of Permaculture Magazine - solutions for sustainable living. Christine Seaward is an environmentalist. They meet regularly to explore ways in which to nurture the heart as well as the earth.

Contact Frances Ocean on 01273-542949
or email francesjoy@... for further details.




#260 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:22 am
Subject: Fw: [Permaculture Diploma Development]] East LondonHerbal Medicine Garden
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----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY WATSON" <barry@...>
To: <permadipdev@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "BARRY WATSON" <barry@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: [Permaculture Diploma Development]] East LondonHerbal Medicine
Garden


> Hi ALL, An internationally important collection of over 2,000 medicinal
herbs from Bucksteep Manor, East Sussex,is being re-establishedon sites in
the London Borough of Redbridge as a new educational and health resource.
The project is managed by a partnership including Redbridge Leisure
Services, the University of East London,the College of Phytotherapy,
Redbridge Gaia Group and the occupational skills craft and garden  center
inthe grounds of King Georg's Hospital, part of Redbridge Health Care
Trust,plus Becontree Organic Growers'     The main site for the NEW East
London Herbal Medicine Garden will be Forest Farm Project off Hazelbrouck
Gardens, close to Hainault Underground Station on the Central line. With
support of Redbridge Councillors and Officers And tehnical assistance from
Becontree Organic Growers',Local Residents plus BTCV volunteers have started
to clear the land ready to recreate the original garden, some half acre in
size.   The collection was built up over the past 25 years by Hein and
Annette Zeylstra, with their students at the College of Phytotherapy, the
UK's leading educational institution for herbal medicine. Mr Zeylesra, who
died in2002, was directly instrumental in the revival of herb clinical
practicein the UK and overseas.  In 2001, the College of Phytotherapy opened
a clinic and training centre in Stratford. In2002, the school of Health and
Bioscience at University of East London and College of Phytotherapy together
launchedthe unique BSc (Hons) degree programme.  Other herbs from the
original collection will be planted out at Hainault Forest Country Park,
using Permaculture methods and Plants for a Future are to contribute part of
their collection of 7,000 species of edible plants, for the Forest Garden
plot.  The Herbal Medicine Garden will provide an important resource for
students, herbal practitioners and the community in Redbribge. Workshops and
educational programmes linked to herb growing and herbal medicine will be
held, linksmade with with international organisations including the Ashoks
Trust Project launched at a lunch reception 12:30-1.30pm Thursday 20 March
2003 at Hanault Forest Country Park, Romford road    Chigwell IG7 4QN. The
intention is to hold Permaculture Workshops, Introduction & Full Design
Cources as Lifelong Learning in Redbridge are keen to fund them, also am
trying to get them acredited at UEL, so PC is alive in East London so PLEASE
spread the message.  BOG is SAFE for now but need HELP to plant up with
LUPINS edible lupins that right EDIBLE. LOVE & PEACE  Barry @ BOG
>
>
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#261 From: "propolis" <propolis@...>
Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [Permaculture Diploma Development]] East LondonHerbal Medicine Garden
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Dear Grham,
Gteat idea.
I am in South africa where hundreds of medicinal plant are indeginous to that area.
If they need help to find plant ( Pelargonium Reniforme is cultivated by myself) for the educational collection, let me know.
best rgds,
Ben safronovitz
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Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: [pfaf] Fw: [Permaculture Diploma Development]] East LondonHerbal Medicine Garden


----- Original Message -----
From: "BARRY WATSON" <barry@...>
To: <permadipdev@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "BARRY WATSON" <barry@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: [Permaculture Diploma Development]] East LondonHerbal Medicine
Garden


> Hi ALL, An internationally important collection of over 2,000 medicinal
herbs from Bucksteep Manor, East Sussex,is being re-establishedon sites in
the London Borough of Redbridge as a new educational and health resource.
The project is managed by a partnership including Redbridge Leisure
Services, the University of East London,the College of Phytotherapy,
Redbridge Gaia Group and the occupational skills craft and garden  center
inthe grounds of King Georg's Hospital, part of Redbridge Health Care
Trust,plus Becontree Organic Growers'     The main site for the NEW East
London Herbal Medicine Garden will be Forest Farm Project off Hazelbrouck
Gardens, close to Hainault Underground Station on the Central line. With
support of Redbridge Councillors and Officers And tehnical assistance from
Becontree Organic Growers',Local Residents plus BTCV volunteers have started
to clear the land ready to recreate the original garden, some half acre in
size.   The collection was built up over the past 25 years by Hein and
Annette Zeylstra, with their students at the College of Phytotherapy, the
UK's leading educational institution for herbal medicine. Mr Zeylesra, who
died in2002, was directly instrumental in the revival of herb clinical
practicein the UK and overseas.  In 2001, the College of Phytotherapy opened
a clinic and training centre in Stratford. In2002, the school of Health and
Bioscience at University of East London and College of Phytotherapy together
launchedthe unique BSc (Hons) degree programme.  Other herbs from the
original collection will be planted out at Hainault Forest Country Park,
using Permaculture methods and Plants for a Future are to contribute part of
their collection of 7,000 species of edible plants, for the Forest Garden
plot.  The Herbal Medicine Garden will provide an important resource for
students, herbal practitioners and the community in Redbribge. Workshops and
educational programmes linked to herb growing and herbal medicine will be
held, linksmade with with international organisations including the Ashoks
Trust Project launched at a lunch reception 12:30-1.30pm Thursday 20 March
2003 at Hanault Forest Country Park, Romford road    Chigwell IG7 4QN. The
intention is to hold Permaculture Workshops, Introduction & Full Design
Cources as Lifelong Learning in Redbridge are keen to fund them, also am
trying to get them acredited at UEL, so PC is alive in East London so PLEASE
spread the message.  BOG is SAFE for now but need HELP to plant up with
LUPINS edible lupins that right EDIBLE. LOVE & PEACE  Barry @ BOG
>
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#262 From: Richard Morris <webmaster@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2003 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Fruit and vegetable extinction figures needed
pfafrich
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Dear Brenda,
> I need to find out which varieties of common fruits and vegetables
> became extinct during the twentieth century, and some possible reasons
> for this. I read recently that around 97% of varieties have
> disappeared. Is this accurate?

I'm afraid I don't know myself. However I'm passing the message onto
the PFAF electronic mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pfaf
hopefully someone there might be able to help.

	 All the best

		 Rich

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Post:  1 Lerryn View, Lerryn, Lostwithiel, Cornwall, PL22 0QJ
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#263 From: Dave Thomas <roan_stallion@...>
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2003 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fruit and vegetable extinction figures needed
roan_stallion
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Rich, I don't know the answer, but I would be interested in learning what those numbers are. Thanks for asking a very interesting question. David

 Richard Morris <webmaster@...> wrote:

Dear Brenda,
> I need to find out which varieties of common fruits and vegetables
> became extinct during the twentieth century, and some possible reasons
> for this. I read recently that around 97% of varieties have
> disappeared. Is this accurate?

I'm afraid I don't know myself. However I'm passing the message onto
the PFAF electronic mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pfaf
hopefully someone there might be able to help.

      All the best

            Rich

--
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Web:   http://www.pfaf.org/ same as http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/pfaf/
Post:  1 Lerryn View, Lerryn, Lostwithiel, Cornwall, PL22 0QJ
Tel:      01208 872 963 / 0845 458 4719     
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#264 From: Richard Morris <webmaster@...>
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 6:57 pm
Subject: The Grand Plants For A Future Spring Clean
pfafrich
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The Grand Plants For A Future Spring Clean

Spring is here and more planning fun is just round the corner, so its
time to give the Devon site a through spring clean and tidy. To help
this process along we've organized a number of spring clean weeks in the
coming months:

	 Tues 1st April - Mon 6th April
	 Fri 25th April - Wed 2nd May
	 Fri 9th May    - Mon 19th May

Those who have visited the site will know that there are a large number
of old caravans, piles of hard-core and various tat on site. The weeks
will centre around dismantling these and general cleaning and tidy of
the site. Other activities will include constructing screening, building
a new section of hedge and maintaining the beds. Addressing health and
safety issues will also be a central part of the clean up. We also hope
to have all the piles of concrete crushed and levelled to make our car
park and driveway before the start of the first weekend.

By the end of the period we hope to have the Blagdon site looking really
tidy so that visitors will be able to concentrate on the demonstration
gardens, woodlands and wildlife areas and better communicate the message
of Plants For A Future.

The nature of the work will be pretty physical and we hope to attract
people who can get on with the job with little supervision. Communal
vegan food will be prepared and there is plenty of space for camping and
a little covered accommodation. If anyone has a good onsite vehicle or
is skilled in driving JCB's they will be especially welcome. There will
be ample time to learn about the work of Plants For A Future; explore
the 84 acres of grassland and woodland; and relax and chat in the
evenings.

If you are interested in attending any of these weeks then please ring
01208 872 963 or 07813 067 250, email webmaster@... or write to the
above address.

Working Weekends At The Field

A number of weekends are planed at Plants For A Future's original site
"The Field" in Cornwall. This is in a much more developed site and is
well on its way to becoming a forest garden with good tree cover. The
weekends will be on the 24-26th May, 7-8 June and 28-29 June. The
weekend will feature many plant based activities, and give you a rare
opportunity to see the site and enjoy the local countryside and tidal
creek. There is camping accommodation, and very basic cooking
facilities. For more information on these weekends please ring Addy on
01208 873 554.

Plant Orders

We have now established links with a couple of groups who can supply
several of PFAF style plants. These are:

Wildwood Nurseries
Lower Manor Cottage
Thornbury
Holsworthy, Devon
EX22 7DD
Tel/Fax: 01409 261324 - Email: lorna@...
Plants Available:

Abutilon vitifolium - Indian mallow; Agrostemma githago - corncockle;
Ajuga reptans - bugle; Alchemilla mollis - lady's mantle; Allium
neopolitanum - daffodil garlic; Allium sativum - serpent garlic; Allium
schoenoprasum - chives; Allium tuberosum - garlic chives; Allium ursinum
- wild garlic, ransoms; Alnus glutinosa - alder; Amelanchier canadensis
- Juneberry; Aquilegia vulgaris - granny's bonnet, columbine; Arctium
lappa - burdock; Arum maculatum/italicum - lords and ladies, cuckoo
pint*; Arundaria japonica (Bambusa metake) - bamboo ; Buddleia davidii -
butterfly bush; Caltha palustris - marsh marigold; Campanula
rotundifolia - harebell; Cardamine pratensis - lady's smock; Carex
pendula - pendulous sedge*; Centaurea scabiosa - greater knapweed;
Chamaemelum nobile - chamomile; Chrysanthemum parthenium - feverfew;
Convallaria majalis - lily of the valley; Cornus sanguinea - dogwood;
Crocosmia crocosmiiflora - monbretia; Digitalis purpurea - foxglove;
Dipsacus fullonum - teasel; Dryopteris felix-mas - male fern ; Echium
vulgare - viper's bugloss; Euphorbia amygloides - wood spurge; Fagopyrum
dibotrys - perennial buckwheat; Fagus sylvatica - common beech; Fraxinus
excelsior - common ash; Filipendula ulmaria - meadowsweet; Galium
odoratum - woodruff; Geum rivale - water avens; Hebe scrophulariaceae -
hebe midsummer beauty ; Hedera helix spec. - ivy (golden, common);
Helleborus argutifolius - Corsican hellebore; Helleborus orientalis -
Hellebore 'Snowden'; Hemerocallis fulva - day lily; Horseradish; Humulus
lupulus - golden hop; Hyacinthoides non-scriptus - bluebells*; Hyoericum
spec. - St John's Wort*; Hyoericum androsaenum - tutsan*; Ilex
aquifoliaceae - common holly; Iris pseudacorus - yellow flag iris*;
Leycesteria - Himalayan honeysuckle, pheasant's berry; Lonicera
periclymenum - honeysuckle; Lunaria biennis - honesty; Lysimachia
vulgaris - yellow loosestrife; Lythrum salicaria - purple loosestrife;
Malvus sylvestris - marsh mallow; Melissa officinalis - lemon balm;
Mentha citrata - eau de Cologne mint ; Mentha spec. - Ginger mint ;
Monarda labiatae - bergamot; Nigella damascena - love in a mist;
Onethera biennis - evening primrose; Oreganum vulgare - oregano;
Peltaria alliacea - garlic cress; Phylitis scolopendrium - hart's tongue
fern; Polemonium caeruleum - Jacob's ladder; Polygonum bistorta -
bistort; Polygonatum multiflorum - Solomon's seal; Prunella vulgaris -
self-heal; Rosa pimpinellifolia - Burnet rose, wild rose; Rosa rugosa -
Ramanas rose; Rosmarinunus officinalis - rosemary; Rumex acetosa -
French sorrel ; Salix daphnoides - violet willow; Salix 'Bowles Hybrid'
- biomass willow; Salix satsika - twisted willow; Salix viminalis -
osier; Sambucus niger spec. - Black elder; Sanguisorba minor - salad
burnet; Saponaria officinalis - soapwort; Scrophularia nodosa -
figwort*; Silene dioica - red campion; Symphytum officinale - comfrey;
Ulex europaeus - gorse; Vinca minor - periwinkle; Viola odorata - sweet
violet.

And
Forever Trees Nursery
Denbury Road
Ipplepen
TQ12 5TR
Tel: 01803 814098
Plants Available:
Hazel Standard and Giant Nuts, English Walnut, Beach, Holm Oak, Pinus
Cemdra, Carella Pine.

If you would like to help supply Plants For A Future style plants then
please get in touch.

East London Herbal Medicine Garden

We've been working with The Agroforestry Research trust to supply plants
for an important new project the East London Herbal Medicine Garden.
Beacontree Organic Growers and several local groups are working to
re-established an internationally important collection of over 2,000
medicinal herbs from Bucksteep Manor, East Sussex in a new site. The
collection was built up over the past 25 years by Hein and Annette
Zeylstra, with their students at the College of Phytotherapy, the UK's
leading educational institution for herbal medicine. Plants for a Future
are to contribute part of their collection of 1,000 species of edible
plants for the Forest Garden plot. The project will be launched on 20
March 2003 at Hanault Forest Country Park, Romford Road, Chigwell IG7
4QN. For more info please contact barry@..., Becontree
Organic Growers, Three Trees, 44 Gale Street, Becontree, Dagenham,
Essex, RM9 4NH Tel: 020 8592 8941.

Well that's all for now. As ever we still need people (no one is now
working full time at Blagdon and there are only 1.5 at the Field), money
(joining as a friend would be a great way to help) and lots of help in
all manner of things.

			 ttfn
	                         Rich
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#265 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:46 pm
Subject: Permaculture Introductory weekend at Dial House, near epping, Essex, May 23-25
quercusrobur...
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http://www.gb0063551.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/course/index.htm

PERMACULTURE; A weekend for beginners

Creating sustainable human communities by following nature's patterns;
"Permaculture is a way of life. It shows us how to make the most of our
resources by minimising waste and maximising potential. But living
ecologically and sustainably doesn't mean giving everything up, it means
relearning the value of nature, to understand new ways of being wealthy.
Permaculture methods can be applied now, whether you are gardening, doing
the shopping, looking after kids, going to work or building your own home.
Permaculture is not about getting away from it all- it's about taking
control of our lives, our individual needs and our common future."

THIS WEEKEND INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE WILL INCLUDE; SUSTAINABLE DESIGN
PRINCIPLES, PERMACULTURE ETHICS, ORGANIC GARDENING, COMMUNITY ECONOMICS,
L.E.T.S. SYSTEMS, FOREST GARDENING, WILD FOOD WALK, OPTIONAL YOGA SESSIONS,
'HANDS ON' PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE & MORE.

23-25 MAY 2003
At
DIAL HOUSE CENTRE FOR
DYNAMIC CULTURAL CHANGE
NORTH WEALD (near Epping)
ESSEX

COST; @ Ģ60.00 (flexibility/concessions available)

(NB. There will be space to camp at the venue. Indoor accommodation will
also be available in the main house at an additional cost of Ģ5.00 per
night)

For further details or to book places, contact Graham Burnett, email
landandliberty@...  or send an SAE to Land & Liberty, 35 Rayleigh
Avenue, Westcliff On Sea, Essex, SS0 7DS (NB. These are NOT contact points
for Dial House)

For more information about Dial House see;
http://www.southern.com/southern/band/CRASS/dialhouse.html
The Dial House compost toilet building workshop, July 2002
http://pages.unisonfree.net/gburnett/compostloo/essay/compostbog.htm

#266 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:07 am
Subject: London and South East area Permaculture gathering & diploma support session, 26 April
quercusrobur...
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Andy- please can you add to the Permaculture Association website;

London and South East area Permaculture gathering & diploma support session
at Westcliff On Sea, Essex, Saturday 26/4/03.

A chance for permaculture people in the South East area & beyond to meet up,
network, discuss, share and socialise. There will also be support for
anybody interested in, or undertaking, the Diploma in Permaculture Design,
including opportunities for Action Learning sessions, and a chance to visit
the Manchester Drive forest garden project, as well as shared food (please
bring a vegan or vegetarian contribution) and socialising or pub afterwards.

For more details (including venue) please contact Graham Burnett
grahamburnett@... , or phone 01702 303259

#267 From: "tonythevegan" <tony.martin11@...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:21 am
Subject: Vegan/Organic garden with 3 Bedroomed semi-detached house for sale, Ģ86,000 ONO
tonythevegan
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It would be very much appreciated if you could pass this email onto
other people you feel might be interested. Thank you.

Hi, my son and I are buying a house in Wales and are looking to sell
our 3 bedroom semi in Borrowash, Derby which we feel will be of
interest to those who would like to grow a lot of their own food,
especially those with children.

*House*

The house is set at the end of a quiet cul-de-sac off another quiet
road. The end of the garden backs onto playing fields. It is a brick
built ex-council house (approx 1950's).

_Ground floor:_ Lounge (20'x 11'), Kitchen (12'x
10'), Hallway (9'x
3'), Utility room (6'x 6'), Wood framed
`conservatory' – to east of
house, with grapevine (15'x 7').

_First floor:_ Bedroom 1 ( 13'x 11'), Bedroom 2 (10'x
10'), Bedroom 3
(11'x 6'), Bathroom (6'x 5'), Toilet (4'x 3').

Air heating solar panel feeds into bedroom 2, with second water
heating panel partially completed.

A Rayburn stove that runs on either wood or coal and feeds the hot
water tank, with the possibility to run some radiators.

Cavity wall insulation has been added and a thick layer of loft
insulation (6-9")

The property is in need of redecoration, and some modernisation and
there has been some recent work done on it.


*Garden*

The garden has been grown organically since I moved here 14 years, and
vegan organic for the last 7. Before that is was basically
uncultivated for many years.

The front garden (33'x23') has been recently improved, with a
new path
& turf.

Along with the location and amenities, the back garden is the selling
point of the property, being a large 110'long and 30' wide
next to the
house widening to 40'at the bottom (total of house area with
front and
back garden, just over 1/10^th of an acre (157ft by an average of
about 33'). The furthest two-thirds of the back garden
constitutes a
beautiful semi-mature forest garden. It contains over 50 fruit and
nuts trees (from 5 to 20 years old). 3 Walnut, 1 Almond, 1 Hazel, 1
Nectarine, lots of Apples, 5 Pear, 3 Cherry (including one over 20ft
high used as my sons play tree), 3 Asian pear, 3 Plum, plus
Blackcurrant, Whitecurrant, Redcurrant bushes, several Gooseberries,
numerous Raspberries, Blackberries, & 4 Rhubarb plants.

There is also a vegetable patch out the back next to the house where I
have grown Beans, Sunflowers, Peas, Courgettes, Garlic etc.

The total weight of fruit and veg for 2001 was 216kg and with a little
attention and time, I believe that figure can probably be doubled!

There is a large (2m * 2m), sunken, brick built BBQ pit nicely shaded
by trees and raspberries with plenty of room for friends.

There is also a sun lounger area in the far end of the garden where a
hammock can be hung between the 25ft Walnut tree and the 20ft cherry
tree., plus a small pond and we often have frogs and hedgehogs
visiting us.


*Location*

The house is just past the outskirts of Derby, in the village of
Borrowash, which is surrounded by fields. Two hundred yards away are 2
children's play areas (one for infants), and a football field (not
often used for that), and a large grass play area.

The Ockbrook is a small stream that flows down through the playing
fields and has willows growing along its banks making it ideal for
children to play in.

There are two allotments nearby (approx 700 yards or 3 minutes on a
bike!) with spare plots for about Ģ8/year.

See link below for map

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=publ
ic&db=pc&addr1=&client=public&Submit.x=0&addr2=&ad
vanced=&Submit.y=0&addr3=&pc=DE723JL&quicksearch=de723jl
<http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=pub
lic&db=pc&addr1=&client=public&Submit.x=0&addr2=&a
dvanced=&Submit.y=0&addr3=&pc=DE723JL&quicksearch=de723jl>

and this link for an aerial view

http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cgi?client=publi
c&x=442262&y=334887&gride=442262&gridn=334887&scal
e=25000&coordsys=&mapsize=big
<http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cgi?client=publ
ic&x=442262&y=334887&gride=442262&gridn=334887&sca
le=25000&coordsys=&mapsize=big>

*Services*

There are several nearby schools for infant and junior pupils
including the excellent Redhills school (with Beacon status,1 mile
away) and Ashbrook just 700 yards away.

There are two local shopping areas, the first just 400 yards away has
just a few shops (newsagent/convenience) and the other (which has a
Safeways, hardware store, dentist, library, pub, Nationwide, Video
shop, etc) is about 600 yards away.

There is a garden centre just a mile away, and the doctors is about
400 yards away.

Out of town shopping centre with Asda, Sainsburys, Homebase, etc 5
miles.

The house has broadband Internet connection, phone and cable
television provided by NTL.

Also connected are the standard mains, gas, water and sewage services
and Council Tax is band "A".


*Transport*

Borrowash is well served by bus routes and during the day there is a
bus to Derby about every 6 minutes and to Nottingham every 8 minutes
including an express to Derby that takes about 10 minutes.

Derby (6 miles) and Nottingham (15 miles) both have train and coach
stations with good links to the buses.

There is space for parking in the top of the cul-de-sac for a vehicle.

The A52 is less than 2 minutes drive away which links directly to
Derby, Nottingham and the M1 (junction 25, 4 miles away)


*Leisure and Entertainment*

Elvaston Castle Country Park is approximately 2 miles away with lovely
walks among the trees. Near there, but closer is the entrance to the
cycle path that goes along the length of the Derwent River and into
the centre of Derby.

Alton towers is just 31 miles away, and the American adventure is in
Shipley Country Park around 10 miles away.

Both Derby and Nottingham have multiscreen cinemas, bowling alleys,
quasar (laser tag game), swimming pools, etc etc. Nottingham also has
an ice rink. There are also all the other usual pubs, clubs, football
etc.

For more details please call Tony on

01332 679 341

0798 052 1271

tony.martin11@...

#268 From: "Anna Fraser" <anna.heh@...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:52 am
Subject: Re: Vegan/Organic garden with 3 Bedroomed semi-detached house for sale, Ģ86,000 ONO
anna_heh
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Hi Toni, I have a tree website and can imagine several people being very interested in your house. Only trouble is that inspite of all the info you provide there is no price guide (without which not many people will take further action). Can you let us know how much you want for the house?
Best wishes,
Anna
www.the-tree.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:21 AM
Subject: [pfaf] Vegan/Organic garden with 3 Bedroomed semi-detached house for sale, Ģ86,000 ONO

It would be very much appreciated if you could pass this email onto
other people you feel might be interested. Thank you.

Hi, my son and I are buying a house in Wales and are looking to sell
our 3 bedroom semi in Borrowash, Derby which we feel will be of
interest to those who would like to grow a lot of their own food,
especially those with children.

*House*

The house is set at the end of a quiet cul-de-sac off another quiet
road. The end of the garden backs onto playing fields. It is a brick
built ex-council house (approx 1950's).

_Ground floor:_ Lounge (20'x 11'), Kitchen (12'x
10'), Hallway (9'x
3'), Utility room (6'x 6'), Wood framed
`conservatory' – to east of
house, with grapevine (15'x 7').

_First floor:_ Bedroom 1 ( 13'x 11'), Bedroom 2 (10'x
10'), Bedroom 3
(11'x 6'), Bathroom (6'x 5'), Toilet (4'x 3').

Air heating solar panel feeds into bedroom 2, with second water
heating panel partially completed.

A Rayburn stove that runs on either wood or coal and feeds the hot
water tank, with the possibility to run some radiators.

Cavity wall insulation has been added and a thick layer of loft
insulation (6-9")

The property is in need of redecoration, and some modernisation and
there has been some recent work done on it.


*Garden*

The garden has been grown organically since I moved here 14 years, and
vegan organic for the last 7. Before that is was basically
uncultivated for many years.

The front garden (33'x23') has been recently improved, with a
new path
& turf.

Along with the location and amenities, the back garden is the selling
point of the property, being a large 110'long and 30' wide
next to the
house widening to 40'at the bottom (total of house area with
front and
back garden, just over 1/10^th of an acre (157ft by an average of
about 33'). The furthest two-thirds of the back garden
constitutes a
beautiful semi-mature forest garden. It contains over 50 fruit and
nuts trees (from 5 to 20 years old). 3 Walnut, 1 Almond, 1 Hazel, 1
Nectarine, lots of Apples, 5 Pear, 3 Cherry (including one over 20ft
high used as my sons play tree), 3 Asian pear, 3 Plum, plus
Blackcurrant, Whitecurrant, Redcurrant bushes, several Gooseberries,
numerous Raspberries, Blackberries, & 4 Rhubarb plants.

There is also a vegetable patch out the back next to the house where I
have grown Beans, Sunflowers, Peas, Courgettes, Garlic etc.

The total weight of fruit and veg for 2001 was 216kg and with a little
attention and time, I believe that figure can probably be doubled!

There is a large (2m * 2m), sunken, brick built BBQ pit nicely shaded
by trees and raspberries with plenty of room for friends.

There is also a sun lounger area in the far end of the garden where a
hammock can be hung between the 25ft Walnut tree and the 20ft cherry
tree., plus a small pond and we often have frogs and hedgehogs
visiting us.


*Location*

The house is just past the outskirts of Derby, in the village of
Borrowash, which is surrounded by fields. Two hundred yards away are 2
children's play areas (one for infants), and a football field (not
often used for that), and a large grass play area.

The Ockbrook is a small stream that flows down through the playing
fields and has willows growing along its banks making it ideal for
children to play in.

There are two allotments nearby (approx 700 yards or 3 minutes on a
bike!) with spare plots for about Ģ8/year.

See link below for map

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=publ
ic&db=pc&addr1=&client=public&Submit.x=0&addr2=&ad
vanced=&Submit.y=0&addr3=&pc=DE723JL&quicksearch=de723jl
<http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=pub
lic&db=pc&addr1=&client=public&Submit.x=0&addr2=&a
dvanced=&Submit.y=0&addr3=&pc=DE723JL&quicksearch=de723jl>

and this link for an aerial view

http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cgi?client=publi
c&x=442262&y=334887&gride=442262&gridn=334887&scal
e=25000&coordsys=&mapsize=big
<http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cgi?client=publ
ic&x=442262&y=334887&gride=442262&gridn=334887&sca
le=25000&coordsys=&mapsize=big>

*Services*

There are several nearby schools for infant and junior pupils
including the excellent Redhills school (with Beacon status,1 mile
away) and Ashbrook just 700 yards away.

There are two local shopping areas, the first just 400 yards away has
just a few shops (newsagent/convenience) and the other (which has a
Safeways, hardware store, dentist, library, pub, Nationwide, Video
shop, etc) is about 600 yards away.

There is a garden centre just a mile away, and the doctors is about
400 yards away.

Out of town shopping centre with Asda, Sainsburys, Homebase, etc 5
miles.

The house has broadband Internet connection, phone and cable
television provided by NTL.

Also connected are the standard mains, gas, water and sewage services
and Council Tax is band "A".


*Transport*

Borrowash is well served by bus routes and during the day there is a
bus to Derby about every 6 minutes and to Nottingham every 8 minutes
including an express to Derby that takes about 10 minutes.

Derby (6 miles) and Nottingham (15 miles) both have train and coach
stations with good links to the buses.

There is space for parking in the top of the cul-de-sac for a vehicle.

The A52 is less than 2 minutes drive away which links directly to
Derby, Nottingham and the M1 (junction 25, 4 miles away)


*Leisure and Entertainment*

Elvaston Castle Country Park is approximately 2 miles away with lovely
walks among the trees. Near there, but closer is the entrance to the
cycle path that goes along the length of the Derwent River and into
the centre of Derby.

Alton towers is just 31 miles away, and the American adventure is in
Shipley Country Park around 10 miles away.

Both Derby and Nottingham have multiscreen cinemas, bowling alleys,
quasar (laser tag game), swimming pools, etc etc. Nottingham also has
an ice rink. There are also all the other usual pubs, clubs, football
etc.

For more details please call Tony on

01332 679 341

0798 052 1271

tony.martin11@...



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#269 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2003 12:44 pm
Subject: Reminder; South East Area permaculture gathering and diploma support session
quercusrobur...
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A reminder that I will be hosting a permaculture gathering and diploma
support session here in Westcliff On Sea, Essex on Saturday 26/4/03.

This will be a chance for any permaculture people from the London or south
East region to get together, meet up and network (or work net) , as well as
an opportunity for those interested in, or working towards, the Permaculture
Diploma to recieve some support, including opportunities for Action
Learning/Think & Listen sessions.

We will also be able to visit some local projects, including the allotment
forest gardens that are being created in Leigh On Sea.

The day will be free of charge, but it would be appreciated if you could
bring contributions to a shared vegan/vegetarian meal.

The gathering will NOT be at my house, instead will be held at 39 Manor
Road, Westcliff On Sea, which is right next to Westcliff station (approx 45
minutes from Fenchurch Street (the C2C line) in London), and will be from
about 10am onwards, with maybe a pub trip in the evening?

Cheers for now,

Graham
www.landandliberty.co.uk

#270 From: "The Weed Lady" <weedlady@...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:10 am
Subject: Wild Food Foraging
wildfoodfora...
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I think ya'll might be interested in this one: a free subscription to
the Wild Food Foragers of America email newsletter.  It's FREE.

The underlying message is awareness of and gratitude for the
abundance all around us, emersing ourselves in nature's gifts, and
empowerment toward self-reliance.

The first issue comes out on April 21st, 2003 and will feature how to
identify, harvest, prepare, and store THISTLES, which are growing all
over the USA right now.

Lots of info and photos will be presented on a different edible weed
every month, including a slide show, recipes, nutritional and
medicinal information, and links to other info.

Please check it out at http://www.wildfoodforagers.org, and please
let your friends know about this opportunity to learn about and take
advantage of the bounty of delicious edible weeds at our feet.

Standing knee deep in abundance!

The Weed Lady

#271 From: Tony Martin <tony.martin11@...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:56 am
Subject: Re: Wild Food Foraging
tonythevegan
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Thanks for info, trouble is I have tried the link and it say it cannot
be found. Any thoughts?

Thanks
Tony

The Weed Lady wrote:

> I think ya'll might be interested in this one: a free subscription to
> the Wild Food Foragers of America email newsletter.  It's FREE.
>
> The underlying message is awareness of and gratitude for the
> abundance all around us, emersing ourselves in nature's gifts, and
> empowerment toward self-reliance.
>
> The first issue comes out on April 21st, 2003 and will feature how to
> identify, harvest, prepare, and store THISTLES, which are growing all
> over the USA right now.
>
> Lots of info and photos will be presented on a different edible weed
> every month, including a slide show, recipes, nutritional and
> medicinal information, and links to other info.
>
> Please check it out at http://www.wildfoodforagers.org, and please
> let your friends know about this opportunity to learn about and take
> advantage of the bounty of delicious edible weeds at our feet.
>
> Standing knee deep in abundance!
>
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#272 From: Tony Martin <tony.martin11@...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:58 am
Subject: Re: Wild Food Foraging
tonythevegan
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Thanks for info, trouble is I have tried the link and it say it cannot
be found. Any thoughts?

Thanks
Tony

The Weed Lady wrote:

> I think ya'll might be interested in this one: a free subscription to
> the Wild Food Foragers of America email newsletter.  It's FREE.
>
> The underlying message is awareness of and gratitude for the
> abundance all around us, emersing ourselves in nature's gifts, and
> empowerment toward self-reliance.
>
> The first issue comes out on April 21st, 2003 and will feature how to
> identify, harvest, prepare, and store THISTLES, which are growing all
> over the USA right now.
>
> Lots of info and photos will be presented on a different edible weed
> every month, including a slide show, recipes, nutritional and
> medicinal information, and links to other info.
>
> Please check it out at http://www.wildfoodforagers.org, and please
> let your friends know about this opportunity to learn about and take
> advantage of the bounty of delicious edible weeds at our feet.
>
> Standing knee deep in abundance!
>
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#273 From: Tony Martin <tony.martin11@...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Wild Food Foraging
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The Weed Lady wrote:

> I think ya'll might be interested in this one: a free subscription to
> the Wild Food Foragers of America email newsletter.  It's FREE.
>
> The underlying message is awareness of and gratitude for the
> abundance all around us, emersing ourselves in nature's gifts, and
> empowerment toward self-reliance.
>
> The first issue comes out on April 21st, 2003 and will feature how to
> identify, harvest, prepare, and store THISTLES, which are growing all
> over the USA right now.
>
> Lots of info and photos will be presented on a different edible weed
> every month, including a slide show, recipes, nutritional and
> medicinal information, and links to other info.
>
> Please check it out at http://www.wildfoodforagers.org, and please
> let your friends know about this opportunity to learn about and take
> advantage of the bounty of delicious edible weeds at our feet.
>
> Standing knee deep in abundance!
>
> The Weed Lady
>
>
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#274 From: "The Weed Lady" <weedlady@...>
Date: Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:29 pm
Subject: Re: Wild Food Foraging
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Sorry about that. Try this link, which omits the comma at the end:

http://www.wildfoodforagers.org

Standing knee-deep in abundance!
The Weed Lady


--- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Tony Martin <tony.martin11@n...> wrote:
> Thanks for info, trouble is I have tried the link and it say it
cannot
> be found. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
> The Weed Lady wrote:
>
> > I think ya'll might be interested in this one: a free
subscription to
> > the Wild Food Foragers of America email newsletter.  It's FREE.
> >
> > The underlying message is awareness of and gratitude for the
> > abundance all around us, emersing ourselves in nature's gifts, and
> > empowerment toward self-reliance.
> >
> > The first issue comes out on April 21st, 2003 and will feature
how to
> > identify, harvest, prepare, and store THISTLES, which are growing
all
> > over the USA right now.
> >
> > Lots of info and photos will be presented on a different edible
weed
> > every month, including a slide show, recipes, nutritional and
> > medicinal information, and links to other info.
> >
> > Please check it out at http://www.wildfoodforagers.org, and please
> > let your friends know about this opportunity to learn about and
take
> > advantage of the bounty of delicious edible weeds at our feet.
> >
> > Standing knee deep in abundance!
> >
> > The Weed Lady

#275 From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@...>
Date: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:06 pm
Subject: Shout out for permaculture recipes.... (UK bias)
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hello folks and sorry for the cross posting-

I'm putting together a kind of sequel book to both my 'Permaculture A
Beginners Guide' and my vegan cookbook, 'well fed, Not An Animal dead' which
will be a kind of permaculture recipe book featuring recipes or better still
'cooking guidelines' (I rarely use or follow prescriptive recipes- if you've
seen 'Well Fed' you'll know what i mean) for meals that can be made with
mainly home grown or non-imported ingredients (in the UK) and that require
the minimum of processing, packaging etc, together with some related
articles on food miles, gardening, fukuoka, forest gardening, etc.

I'd be interested in any recipes or stuff on preserving, drying, etc that
people might like to contribute. I'd request that all submissions be vegan,
or at least easily adaptable to vegan (though I don't mind recipes which
include home-scale produced honey), and I'm particularly interested in
including some raw food recipes, as well as dishes utilising wild foods,
'weeds', edible flowers, less usual fruit, etc, as well as seasonal dishes
based on the 'wheel of the year' (eg, meals appropriate for the various
yearly festivals like Beltane, samhain, etc). I'm not going to be
ultra-dogmatic, including some imported ingredients, eg, olive oil, fair
traded ingredients, etc would be acceptable...

Any submissions used will be credited and you'll recieve (at least) a copy
of the book when it's finished...

Look forward to hearing from all you perma-cooks out there!

Cheers Graham
www.landandliberty.co.uk

#276 From: "King Amdo" <King_Amdo@...>
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2003 11:52 am
Subject: Happy Cob Nut Bonanza!
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I've just discovered in the apple orchards out the back of the house huge
piles of discarded sprouting cobnuts waiting to be propergated.
This is in West Kent near Tunbridge Wells. Big a big sack and help yourself,
map ref landranger 188 634415. Easy to locate...on the hill, at the edge of
the apple orchard area, on the top of a rise that has been cleared of fruit
trees and planted with small native trees....a few big wooden apple boxes
around...Many are just spouting and will need collecting, packing into sacks
with damp soil or potting into contains very soon, or they'll just dry out
in the summer. I'm very much into just casually spreading the edible food
idea out into the community....and as there often seems to be squirrals
around in the garden, propergation in pots etc is difficult. (again, if my
tibetan cast wasn't seemingly under constant attack from various negative
forces, this problem would not exist!). I'm thinking of just allowing them
to sprout in sacks, and then taking a load out at a time on walks, carrying
a pointy stick, and prodding ahole in the ground, popping a nut inside, and
firming down the soil..all things being equal, they should grow well.
blessed be.




I'd Also like to take the opporuntity to network the location ov a very very
cosmic project...A hill country nuttery, now overgrown, located in the East
Powys hills. For those of you interested in cultivars of nuts for the 1000'+
contour line, here's 40 years work of selction/propergation etc, all lying
to waste. The nursey was a Mr David Every's, a 'old school' dreamer,
visionary, and practical worker, vegan, animal liberation activist and
general all round hero! It was very poiniant wandering round the overgrown
lands (6 acres of hazel and walnut - Every's speciality, and the old
derilict sandtone house, with scattered alternative literature, old copies
of greenline etc etc), Amazingly this place has been lunched out, one could
speculate on the immediate causes of this nialisatic neglect, being the
usual suspects, the 'negative energies' of western ego, proped up by
christainity and of course this sort of vision, especially being a community
wide trip, being immediately hostile to the 'status quo' of
exploiotation/ranching etc etc.

Instead of being enacted, this valuble nuttery has been abandoned, and was
sold privately to someone primarily interested in the redevelopment of the
derilict house there...whether they are interested in nut trees, I don't
know. Let us hope so...Then at least the trees will be saved. But it really
is a shame, Uk vegan/food forest  movement, that this place isn't being
developed in the way evry would have dreamed of, as a community resourse,
the house made into a study cetre and the cultivars propergated and
distributed on a increasingly emergency basis! I mean it's all very well
writing idealistice visions of tree based culture being reinstated here in
the sid (united kingdom), but in order to make this tree based non vilent
reality real we have start enacting it! Then the rest follows!! We already
have a UK vegan horticulture centre at Plants for a future at blagdon, this
would have been a perfect complement, community forest hill country, edible
tree centre. Non competition is the thing, is the essense of higher states
of consciousness, I know that 'the bastards' make us work so f'ing hard that
deep meditational peace becomes literally (seemingly) unachivable, but
nevertheless. Everything in Heaven is in fact free, and these states of
reality are in fact achievable here and now...not just 'when you die'. Magic
is real, Every's place is magic, his was/possible is a way into this true
magic, deep avalon, ...go check it out at, Landranger 148 324703, next to
the appropriately named sheep farm,  'Folly Farm', nearby Tref Y Clawdd
(Knighton), Powys, Cymru (Wales).

Bright Blessings!,

Om shanti!, shanti shiva! shanti shakti!,

Allah Akbar!

With PIXY  power!

King Amdo.






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#277 From: "amdo" <King_Amdo@...>
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2003 6:58 pm
Subject: Useful edible bushes and shrubs...
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Hi (again) and hello. I've just joined this group, and this is very exciting because edible, fruiting and nutting shrubs and trees are my main interest. I've spent years and years in more or less complete non human company, in deep meditation, and like to plant them widely, if only for the wild animals! At the moment though I'm at my parents who have a beautiful acre of mature of woodland, and mature cherry, apple and pear trees here in the heart of kent. I've planted a few unusual trees, like monkey puzzles (only two so far, i may need to plant a few more to be on the safe side I think), and am growing some walnuts from essex, and chestnuts from spain and local seed, as well as various other things like fruiting hawthorns, various current bushes, and a CRESENT moon dianic magic vegetable garden! ...I also have some nursey prchased to plant 4 or so trees, morello's for a north facing wall and 2 or 3 big lush purple fruiting cherries, yum!
 
The areas inbetween the  trees and shrubs are meadow...left fallow last year, the suckers harvested and planted out around and about. I plan this year to cut maybe 2 or 3 times this summer with a sythe, scraping the grass around the basis ov the trees etc. It is very very beautiful!
 
I would like, if possible to know some varieties of nice (particularly early and late season) bushes and smallish shrubs.
 
 
 
Does anyone have any suggestions of varieties and places where I can get these (for free!) - suckers/cuttings etc etc?
 
 
 
 
My own garden is in Mam, mother, (Anglesey), is remote, windy, sunblasted and mountainside, surrounded by heather, gorse, and backs to the south east by a rearing mountain, covered with scots pine. There's plenty ov room to plant out edible and native trees...but conditions are not ideal for fruit trees...it's taking a while for the windbreak hedges to grow up high...but the sea views and the white horses make up for that! These conditions are what Every's nuts (see other post) are made for. I plan to collect a load from his nuttery this autumn. (I was too late last season). It's great to just plant them out all over the place, in hidden groves in forests, or in hedgerows...Tree spirit magic is very powerful, healing, telepathic, and shapeshift magic. The garden is like alchemic reality generator! ... this can bring problems as I've already siad, if one's vision is ov a 'community wide' changing nature...police helecopters shapeshifting into your path...not so good. It can be isolating being a pure vegan alcemist in the UK countryside. There's a sort of game played in this society..break the sacred space and your through...through into what you may well ask...superficially a maoist 'game', but more deeply a christain one (ie anti goddess tribal). That's my findings anyhow. Its worrying I tell you. Hopefully off to india soon (again) where the culture recognises and appreciates witches and saints rather than attempting to scapegoat them. Usually unknowingly, but not always...(and this goes for 'new agers' not just the usual suspect, ie police /freemasons etc ). Of course were talkng tribal cymru realities here, perhaps the real and genuine avalon, the one where police, army, violence cannot exist!..and these forces (and you'd be suprised indeed people, who and what they channel through) WILL DO ANYTHING to trash these sacred spaces. believe you me, I know. From scurrellous covert harrasment to overt intimidation. This alchemy is genuinely Tribal (and thus a CHAOS TRAP to the freemason fear/rape power) not yer usual, 'acceptable', run ov the mill, new age stuff.
 
Bright blessings!
 
Allah Akbar!
 
Om Shiva!
 
Many Blessings to his Holiness the Dalai Lama, being ov luminescent light!
 
King Amdo.   

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