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#512 From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@...>
Date: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: New contextual pop-up help
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Verily, you rock. The fact that you continue to improve the site while doing
everything else in
your life is astounding and inspiring! Thank you.

--- Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:

> http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2008/03/27/8426.php
>
> I’m not really sure what to call this. Tool-tips? Hover help? Anyway,
> you should now notice something new if you hover your mouse cursor over
> any of the linked words in Diary entries.
>
> Most of these pop-up tips will only show the name of the person, place
> or thing mentioned, although even this is useful when Pepys isn’t very
> specific in the Diary entry itself. But of the 2,875 Encyclopedia
> topics, I’ve written short summaries for more then 500 of them — all
> those that have Wikipedia pages associated with them.
>
> This leaves a lot of links without decent summaries and I’d love it if
> any of you felt like writing one or more. Just email me the text and the
> link it should be associated with (eg,
> http://www.pepysdiary.com/p/150.php). Summaries should be up to 60 words
> and summarise the person, place or thing in a way that will be useful
> for the life of the diary. Where possible I tended to focus particularly
> on information around the diary person, such as how a person faired upon
> the Restoration. Also, I’m not attached to any of the summaries I’ve
> written so far, so if you feel you can improve on any, do email your
> versions to me at the usual address!
>
> These tips won’t show up if you read the diary by email, or RSS. There’s
> also a bug that means the tip won’t show up in Internet Explorer on
> Windows if its link is at the very left hand edge of the Diary entry.
> I’m not sure if I’ll be able to fix that.
>
> I hope you find these useful!
>
> Phil
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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#513 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:29 pm
Subject: Switching off annotations...
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Just an extra update for those of you on this list. I'm about to switch
off the ability to post annotations on the site. It should all be back
again later today (fingers crossed...).

Phil

#514 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:11 am
Subject: Server move complete
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http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2008/03/30/8429.php

The site is now living on a new webserver and everything should be back
working again as normal.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a few little problems lurking
somewhere that I haven’t fixed yet, so email me or post a comment below
if you find something not working as it should. Thanks.

Phil

#517 From: "Michael Robinson" <robinsonrepepys@...>
Date: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:43 am
Subject: Survey of London --- back in production after 22 year hiatus
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Survey of London: Secrets of the streets
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 12/04/2008
Christopher Howse celebrates the return of a monumental guide to
architecture
# In pictures: The London survey

Clerkenwell is full of secrets. It is the London village with most
surprising medieval survivals - the hidden Charterhouse, like a
transplanted Oxbridge college; St John's Gate, resembling the entrance
to an ancient walled town, and the Well itself, with its healing
waters, rediscovered in 1924 in a lane next to the Underground railway.

Exmouth Market
A stroll into the past: Clerkenwell's Exmouth Market (1968)

In the past two decades, Clerkenwell has turned from a post-industrial
enclave of decay and poverty to the estate agent's upwardly mobile
dream, full of warehouse conversions, desirable Georgian streets and
cleverly keyed-in new flats. Now the ancient parish of St James,
Clerkenwell, is packeted up in two splendid volumes by the resurrected
Survey of London.

There is rejoicing at the publication next week, after years of work,
of these 800 learned pages. The Survey had been a bit in the doldrums
since the GLC, its former protector, was abolished.

Now its publications have been taken on by Yale University Press, with
the backing of the Paul Mellon Centre for Studies in British Art. The
Survey's work comes under the behemoth English Heritage. But if a
perfect ménage can be imagined between a quango, a publisher and an
educational charity, this is it.

It comes at a time when more people take a serious interest in
architecture. The Survey is a Pevsner for grown-ups. It is madly
ambitious.
advertisement

While Nikolaus Pevsner gave a paragraph to a building or a page to a
church, the Survey brings out fat folio volumes for each of the old
parishes of London, with supplementary volumes for single buildings
such as the London Charterhouse (due next year). It is a grand project
comparable to glorious monsters of British scholarship like the Oxford
English Dictionary and the Dictionary of National Biography.

A strange man, CR Ashbee, founded the Survey in 1894. He was a
socialist and arts-and-crafts practitioner, and the son of a collector
of pornography. Ashbee's collecting instincts went into gathering data
on old buildings before they were demolished.

He saw a palace built for James I in Bromley-by-Bow pulled down in
1894, and he was determined to stop an almshouse, Trinity Hospital in
Mile End, going the same way.

It was the subject of the first monograph in the Survey, and it still
stands.

"Ashbee got together with friends to record old buildings within 20
miles of Aldgate pump," explains Andrew Saint, now general editor of
the Survey.

"He thought they might do it in 10 years or so." After 114 years, the
series is up to volumes 46 and 47 (of which 31 volumes are already
online, free).

Saint, who made his career in Cambridge and took on the editorship two
years ago, is planning volumes for Woolwich and Battersea.

"We haven't ventured south of the river since 1956," he says.

"But with the backing from the Mellon Centre, Yale can publish a
volume every couple of years with luck. We'll be more thematic with
Battersea. In Clerkenwell we cover pretty well every bloody building."
He says it with pride.

As well he may. For the first time, 800 photographs, colour or
historic black and white, are integrated with the text instead of
sitting coldly in a section of "plates". One sepia photograph from
1910 shows draymen standing by loaded wagons next to new tramlines in
St John's Street, where a century later restaurant-goers eat
sweetbreads and suckling pig from nearby Smithfield.

Clerkenwell is good at hiding its treasures. Beneath St John's church
lies one of London's finest 12th-century structures, a crypt chapel
built for the Knights Hospitallers of St John of Jerusalem.

The river by which Clerkenwell stands, the Fleet, is buried where once
it rolled a "large tribute of dead dogs to Thames", in the words of
Alexander Pope, who in the reign of George II staged his imaginary
Olympics for dunces by its stinking waters. It was a fine joke on the
developers of the Underground in 1862 when the Fleet burst open, swept
away their workings and filled the tunnel with sewage.

By then, Clerkenwell was renowned for hundreds of workshops making
clocks, watches and scientific instruments. In Pentonville Road, John
Betjeman's father's firm, G Betjemann and Sons, showed off its
rosewood cabinets and its patent lockable tantalus, designed to stop
servants and younger sons getting at the whisky.

"Clerkenwell's population reached its height in the late 19th
century," says Saint.

"Then skilled workers began to move away, and more of the houses went
into multiple occupation. The first half of the 20th century was a
rotten period for the people left."

Today, the hub of yuppiedom is Clerkenwell Green. On one side, in a
former neo-classical charity school of 1738, stands the Marx Memorial
Library, with 40,000 volumes from the dustbin of history.

Even grander is the former Middlesex Sessions House of 1780, above
which rises the steeple of St James's church (by the local architect
James Carr). This cluster, with its old-fashioned pubs, does feel like
a village. But a street or two away are dives for clubbers. Takes all
sorts.

Professor Saint jumps with enthusiasm for Finsbury Health Centre,
designed in 1938 by Berthold Lubetkin, best known for the penguin pool
at London Zoo. I can't see it myself. But if anything can convince me
of its worth, it's the Survey of London.
# The Survey of London: Vol 46, South and East Clerkenwell, and Vol.
47, Northern Clerkenwell and Pentonville, are published this month by
Yale (£135 for the pair)

Information appearing on telegraph.co.uk is the copyright of Telegraph
Media Group Limited and must not be reproduced in any medium without
licence. For the full copyright statement see Copyright
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#518 From: Terry Foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: London's 'white slaves' (published last year)
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London's 'white slaves'

By Caroline Davies
Last Updated: 2:05am BST 05/04/2007

As Britain commemorates the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the slave
trade, new research traces the stories of the first batch of slaves sent to
the colonies in America - not black Africans but white children from London.

A new book, White Cargo, tells how children as young as 10 were swept off
the city's streets and sent with convicts to work in America several months
before the first shipment of African captives arrived in 1619. Authors Don
Jordan and Michael Walsh say hundreds of homeless children were rounded up
and held in the Bridewell, a workhouse and prison near Blackfriars Bridge.

But, to disguise the fact these children were to be enslaved, officials
sold it as giving the underprivileged a new life. In truth, the City of
London wanted to get rid of their street children while the merchants
behind the company colonising Virginia wanted slave labour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml

Also tomorrow's New York Times review "Master and Servant"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review

#520 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:53 am
Subject: Re: London's 'white slaves' (published last year)
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The last sentence of this synopis reminded me of the notorious child
migration schemes which existed up until 1967 - sending children from
orphanages in Britain to former colonies where many were used as little
better than slave labour. See
http://australianscreen.com.au/titles/leaving-liverpool/

Australian Susan

Terry Foreman wrote:
>
>
> London's 'white slaves'
>
> By Caroline Davies
> Last Updated: 2:05am BST 05/04/2007
>
> As Britain commemorates the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the
> slave
> trade, new research traces the stories of the first batch of slaves
> sent to
> the colonies in America - not black Africans but white children from
> London.
>
> A new book, White Cargo, tells how children as young as 10 were swept off
> the city's streets and sent with convicts to work in America several
> months
> before the first shipment of African captives arrived in 1619. Authors
> Don
> Jordan and Michael Walsh say hundreds of homeless children were
> rounded up
> and held in the Bridewell, a workhouse and prison near Blackfriars Bridge.
>
> But, to disguise the fact these children were to be enslaved, officials
> sold it as giving the underprivileged a new life. In truth, the City of
> London wanted to get rid of their street children while the merchants
> behind the company colonising Virginia wanted slave labour.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml
>
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml>
>
> Also tomorrow's New York Times review "Master and Servant"
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review>
>
>

#521 From: "Gerry" <gerry1019@...>
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: London's 'white slaves' (published last year)
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Perhaps stretching a point a bit, Susan's link is to an overpowering movie. It's available in Oz, I use ezydvd.com.au for antipodeian DVDs.
It's PAL system so  people on this side of the Atlantic will need a player with PAL/NTSC conversion.
Gerry1019
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] London's 'white slaves' (published last year)

The last sentence of this synopis reminded me of the notorious child
migration schemes which existed up until 1967 - sending children from
orphanages in Britain to former colonies where many were used as little
better than slave labour. See
http://australianscreen.com.au/titles/leaving-liverpool/

Australian Susan

Terry Foreman wrote:
>
>
> London's 'white slaves'
>
> By Caroline Davies
> Last Updated: 2:05am BST 05/04/2007
>
> As Britain commemorates the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the
> slave
> trade, new research traces the stories of the first batch of slaves
> sent to
> the colonies in America - not black Africans but white children from
> London.
>
> A new book, White Cargo, tells how children as young as 10 were swept off
> the city's streets and sent with convicts to work in America several
> months
> before the first shipment of African captives arrived in 1619. Authors
> Don
> Jordan and Michael Walsh say hundreds of homeless children were
> rounded up
> and held in the Bridewell, a workhouse and prison near Blackfriars Bridge.
>
> But, to disguise the fact these children were to be enslaved, officials
> sold it as giving the underprivileged a new life. In truth, the City of
> London wanted to get rid of their street children while the merchants
> behind the company colonising Virginia wanted slave labour.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml
> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml>
>
> Also tomorrow's New York Times review "Master and Servant"
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review>
>
>


#522 From: "Jenny Doughty" <jmdought@...>
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: RE: London's 'white slaves' (published last year)
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Children were taken from other parts of the UK as well as London - certainly from Scotland. A friend of mine, Frances Mary Hendry, used the scenario as part of an young adult novel she wrote in which slavery was the theme - it's called Chains if anybody is interested.
 
Jenny
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Susan Thomas
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:53 AM
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] London's 'white slaves' (published last year)

The last sentence of this synopis reminded me of the notorious child
migration schemes which existed up until 1967 - sending children from
orphanages in Britain to former colonies where many were used as little
better than slave labour. See
http://australianscreen.com.au/titles/leaving-liverpool/

Australian Susan

Terry Foreman wrote:
>
>
> London's 'white slaves'
>
> By Caroline Davies
> Last Updated: 2:05am BST 05/04/2007
>
> As Britain commemorates the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the
> slave
> trade, new research traces the stories of the first batch of slaves
> sent to
> the colonies in America - not black Africans but white children from
> London.
>
> A new book, White Cargo, tells how children as young as 10 were swept off
> the city's streets and sent with convicts to work in America several
> months
> before the first shipment of African captives arrived in 1619. Authors
> Don
> Jordan and Michael Walsh say hundreds of homeless children were
> rounded up
> and held in the Bridewell, a workhouse and prison near Blackfriars Bridge.
>
> But, to disguise the fact these children were to be enslaved, officials
> sold it as giving the underprivileged a new life. In truth, the City of
> London wanted to get rid of their street children while the merchants
> behind the company colonising Virginia wanted slave labour.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml
> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/05/nslaves05.xml>
>
> Also tomorrow's New York Times review "Master and Servant"
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/books/review/Lau-t.html?ref=review>
>
>


#523 From: Eccena@...
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:57 am
Subject: Re: London's 'white slaves' (published last year)
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     My father was born on Cleveland Way just off MIle End Road in 1894. His mother died when he was three, he was taken into the Dr.Bernardo homes and lived and was schooled there until he was 13 and  then sent to a family in Canada.
     Dr.Bernardo was famous for taking pictures of the thin and bedraggled children he took off the street and then after a year's time taking another picture of the child after a year of good food and in clean clothing. From showing his successes he collected a great deal of money and, I believe, helped many children. I'm happy my father was one of them. I know that Dr. Bernardo's Homes came under scrutiny for misusing funds and the children a while ago, hopefully they are back on track.
     The family my father went to was welcoming and treated him as one of their own. So not all of the kids off the street became slaves.
     Incidents like slave children happened in the United States when homeless children from large eastern cities were put on trains and shipped to the midwest to work in the fields. I'm not sure of the era. 
     Mistreating children is a criminal act.




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#524 From: Terry Foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:23 am
Subject: Re: London's 'white slaves' (published last year)
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At 12:57 AM 4/29/2008 -0400, Ellen wrote:
>Incidents like slave children happened in the United States when homeless
>children from large eastern cities were put on trains and shipped to the
>midwest to work in the fields. I'm not sure of the era.
>      Mistreating children is a criminal act.

Though this topic-creep, concerning the "orphan trains" see

http://www.uoregon.edu/~adoption/topics/orphan.html

There were abuses, but also "In spite of the trains' stated intention, they
did not permanently separate most children, geographically or culturally,
from their parents and communities of origin. Well into the twentieth
century, impoverished but resourceful parents took advantage of the
services of middle-class child-savers for their own purposes, including
temporary caretaking during periods of economic crisis and apprenticeships
that helped children enter the labor market. "

There were no oceans crossed.

Terry Foreman

#525 From: Terry Foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:44 pm
Subject: In Love With the History Our Teachers Never Told Us
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In Love With the History Our Teachers Never Told Us

CUTTYHUNK ISLAND, Mass. — Tony Horwitz’s new book, “A Voyage Long and
Strange,” is about the American history most Americans never learned,
including the story of the short-lived, early-17th-century colony
established on this windswept island eight miles west of Martha’s Vineyard.

The book starts with the Viking discovery of North America, dispels a
number of myths about Columbus (a much lousier navigator than we were
taught) and then traces the various Spanish and French explorations of
America before turning to the English settlements at Jamestown and Plymouth.

That the Pilgrims were very tardy latecomers is one of the themes of “A
Voyage Long and Strange,” just published by Macmillan. Another is that much
of what we think of as heroic exploration was bumbling and misguided. And a
third is that large chunks of our past are preserved these days less by
scholars than by passionate amateurs. Who knew, for example, that some
evangelicals in Jacksonville, Fla., were keeping alive the memory of the
French Huguenots who settled there and were massacred by the Spanish?
[....]
Oddly, considering that he now lives on Martha’s Vineyard, one place that
Mr. Horwitz writes about but did not visit is Cuttyhunk, right nearby,
where the British explorer Bartholomew Gosnold established a short-lived
colony in 1602. On a gray, cold and blustery day earlier this month, he
rectified the omission, and afterward he wrote in an e-mail message: “I’ll
never complain again about the Vineyard being bleak.”

To get there he had to take two ferries: from the Vineyard to Wood’s Hole
and then from New Bedford to Cuttyhunk. On the second leg, as Cuttyhunk — a
gray smudge at the end of what are now known as the Elizabeth Islands —
came into view, he explained that Gosnold sailed to the New England coast,
or what he thought was northern Virginia, in search of sassafras, which was
the 17th-century version of penicillin. It was believed — wrongly — to be a
cure for syphilis and thus was extremely valuable. Gosnold had a crew of
31, including sailors — “none of the best,” according to someone onboard —
an apothecary (to identify the sassafras) and 20 settlers, who were
supposed to found a year-round trading post.

The settlement lasted only a few weeks because those who were supposed to
stay behind got cold feet. They felt they were insufficiently provisioned
and were also worried about being cheated of their share of the cargo.

Two men left accounts of the voyage, and so the Cuttyhunk colony, though
brief, is unusually well documented, Mr. Horwitz said, and what’s most
remarkable about these accounts is their description of the settlers’
encounter with American Indians.

On first making landfall in southern Maine, Gosnold’s ship, the Concord,
was greeted by a canoe rigged with a mast and sails, so that it was at
first mistaken for a European fishing vessel. The Indians onboard “spake
diverse Christian words,” one of the Englishmen wrote, “and seemed to
understand much more than we.” It turned out they had been trading for
years with Basque fishermen.

[For the rest of the story:].

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/books/30horw.html?ei=5070&em=&en=7379365d9485d\
7b0&ex=1209700800&pagewanted=all

#526 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: In Love With the History Our Teachers Never Told Us
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Fascinating! I now want to read the book! I especially was taken with
the idea of Basque fishermen casually criss-crossing the Atlantic
without all the bells and whistles of recorded voyages. What an amazing
story.

Terry Foreman wrote:
>
>
> In Love With the History Our Teachers Never Told Us
>
> CUTTYHUNK ISLAND, Mass. — Tony Horwitz’s new book, “A Voyage Long and
> Strange,” is about the American history most Americans never learned,
> including the story of the short-lived, early-17th-century colony
> established on this windswept island eight miles west of Martha’s
> Vineyard.
>
> The book starts with the Viking discovery of North America, dispels a
> number of myths about Columbus (a much lousier navigator than we were
> taught) and then traces the various Spanish and French explorations of
> America before turning to the English settlements at Jamestown and
> Plymouth.
>
> That the Pilgrims were very tardy latecomers is one of the themes of “A
> Voyage Long and Strange,” just published by Macmillan. Another is that
> much
> of what we think of as heroic exploration was bumbling and misguided.
> And a
> third is that large chunks of our past are preserved these days less by
> scholars than by passionate amateurs. Who knew, for example, that some
> evangelicals in Jacksonville, Fla., were keeping alive the memory of the
> French Huguenots who settled there and were massacred by the Spanish?
> [....]
> Oddly, considering that he now lives on Martha’s Vineyard, one place that
> Mr. Horwitz writes about but did not visit is Cuttyhunk, right nearby,
> where the British explorer Bartholomew Gosnold established a short-lived
> colony in 1602. On a gray, cold and blustery day earlier this month, he
> rectified the omission, and afterward he wrote in an e-mail message:
> “I’ll
> never complain again about the Vineyard being bleak.”
>
> To get there he had to take two ferries: from the Vineyard to Wood’s Hole
> and then from New Bedford to Cuttyhunk. On the second leg, as
> Cuttyhunk — a
> gray smudge at the end of what are now known as the Elizabeth Islands —
> came into view, he explained that Gosnold sailed to the New England
> coast,
> or what he thought was northern Virginia, in search of sassafras,
> which was
> the 17th-century version of penicillin. It was believed — wrongly — to
> be a
> cure for syphilis and thus was extremely valuable. Gosnold had a crew of
> 31, including sailors — “none of the best,” according to someone
> onboard —
> an apothecary (to identify the sassafras) and 20 settlers, who were
> supposed to found a year-round trading post.
>
> The settlement lasted only a few weeks because those who were supposed to
> stay behind got cold feet. They felt they were insufficiently provisioned
> and were also worried about being cheated of their share of the cargo.
>
> Two men left accounts of the voyage, and so the Cuttyhunk colony, though
> brief, is unusually well documented, Mr. Horwitz said, and what’s most
> remarkable about these accounts is their description of the settlers’
> encounter with American Indians.
>
> On first making landfall in southern Maine, Gosnold’s ship, the Concord,
> was greeted by a canoe rigged with a mast and sails, so that it was at
> first mistaken for a European fishing vessel. The Indians onboard “spake
> diverse Christian words,” one of the Englishmen wrote, “and seemed to
> understand much more than we.” It turned out they had been trading for
> years with Basque fishermen.
>
> [For the rest of the story:].
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/books/30horw.html?ei=5070&em=&en=7379365d9485d\
7b0&ex=1209700800&pagewanted=all
>
<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/books/30horw.html?ei=5070&em=&en=7379365d9485\
d7b0&ex=1209700800&pagewanted=all>
>
>

#527 From: "matthew" <gmnewton@...>
Date: Sun May 4, 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: Map of London
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When I read Pepy's diary I like to work out where and how far he
travels each day.
Is there a map of London in the 1660's I could view to give me this
information?

#528 From: Eccena@...
Date: Sun May 4, 2008 11:26 am
Subject: Re: Map of London
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Many of the streets and places he mentions are in London today.



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#529 From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@...>
Date: Sun May 4, 2008 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Map of London
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Check out the map links on the pepysdiary.com site -- Phil has done a great job
connecting the
places Pepys mentions to both older and modern-day maps.

--- Eccena@... wrote:

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#530 From: Terry Foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Sun May 4, 2008 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: Map of London
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Any volume I-IX of the Latham and Matthews edition of *The Diary of Samuel
Pepys*
has maps of "London in the Sixteen-Sixties" in two halves, 2 pages each,
after the text and before the "Select List of Persons" and "Select Glossary"
that conclude the volume.  These maps have lists of the buildings and landmarks
Pepys mentions in the Diary.  A photocopy of these 4 pages can be fetched
from a library
and should be quite helpful.


At 08:35 AM 5/4/2008 -0700, you wrote:
>Check out the map links on the pepysdiary.com site -- Phil has done a
>great job connecting the
>places Pepys mentions to both older and modern-day maps.
>
>--- Eccena@... wrote:
>
> > Many of the streets and places he mentions are in London today.
> >
> >
> >
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> > favorites at AOL Food.
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#531 From: "Michael Robinson" <robinsonrepepys@...>
Date: Sun May 4, 2008 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: Map of London
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Providing you have a broadband connection you may find some help from
the British Library's virtual exhibition (London: A Life in Maps
http://www.bl.uk/londoninmaps  ) and its google map and earth overlays.


--- In pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com, "matthew" <gmnewton@...> wrote:
>
> When I read Pepy's diary I like to work out where and how far he
> travels each day.
> Is there a map of London in the 1660's I could view to give me this
> information?
>

#533 From: "Michael Robinson" <robinsonrepepys@...>
Date: Fri May 16, 2008 6:02 pm
Subject: ONDB -- Life: North, Sir Dudley (1641-1691), merchant and economist,
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was born in London (probably at the Charterhouse) on 16 May 1641. He
was the fourth (third surviving) son of Dudley North, fourth Baron
North  (1602-1677), landowner, and his wife, Anne (1613/14-1681),
second daughter of Sir Charles Montagu of Cranbrook and his second
wife, Mary Whitmore. He distinguished himself first as a successful
businessman who parlayed his small provision into a substantial
fortune, second as a public servant in the customs, and third as an
original analyst of the market economy. ...

http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/1.html

#534 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Sun May 18, 2008 11:45 am
Subject: Truncated annotations
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Hi everyone,

Dirk recently alerted me to the fact that scattered through the website
are several annotations that end abruptly - part of them is missing.

This must have occurred during one of the several server moves the site
has undergone over the years, and always happens at the point one of a
few characters is used - usually a certain kind of 'apostrophe' or
"double quote".

If you spot anything like this - in the diary pages or the Encyclopedia
or elsewhere - please do email me a link to the annotation. Right-click
on the time the annotation was posted and you should be able to copy the
URL of that link and paste it into an email like this:

http://www.pepysdiary.com/archive/1660/12/13/#c9439

I can then fix the annotation manually from an archived copy - I don't
think there's a way of doing it automatically. Many thanks for your help!

Phil

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#535 From: "jeannine_kerwin" <jeannine_kerwin@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 2:26 pm
Subject: Boston Area Concerts in June
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Seven Times Salt
A Brave Barrel of Oysters: the music of Samuel Pepys' London

Samuel Pepys, one of history's most prolific diarists and a
secretary of the Royal Navy during the reign of Charles II, was a
man of his time and enjoyed all the cultural delights of the
Restoration. He frequently heard some of the finest musicians of his
day and often enjoyed music-making with the very same musicians in
his drawing room after dinner. With music and dramatic readings from
Pepys' diaries, Seven Times Salt revives the bustling energy of
Restoration London, as described by English Literature's quirkiest
and most beloved "man on the street".

Karen Burciaga, violin and viol; Daniel Meyers, recorders; Joshua
Schreiber Shalem, viol and Matthew Wright, lute. With special guests
Michael Barrett, tenor and lute, and Kyle Parrish, narrator


Tuesday June 10, 2008 8:00 PM     St. Peter's Church, 320 Boston
Post Rd., Weston MA

Wednesday June 11, 2008 8:00 PM   The Chapel At West Parish, 129
Reservation Rd., Andover MA

Thursday June 12, 2008 8:00 PM   Lindsey Chapel, Emmanuel Church, 15
Newbury St., Boston MA



And the ticket link is on this page

http://www.mktix.com/mktixrun/shared/mknporun?dir=mvarts.MKT-
28&page=mkeventlistfrm.jsp&DisplayType=detail&Parent=SoHIP-E9150

#536 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: Boston Area Concerts in June
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Oh! This sounds *lovely*. Wish I could be there! I hope some of you will be!


jeannine_kerwin wrote:
>
> Seven Times Salt
> A Brave Barrel of Oysters: the music of Samuel Pepys' London
>
> Samuel Pepys, one of history's most prolific diarists and a
> secretary of the Royal Navy during the reign of Charles II, was a
> man of his time and enjoyed all the cultural delights of the
> Restoration. He frequently heard some of the finest musicians of his
> day and often enjoyed music-making with the very same musicians in
> his drawing room after dinner. With music and dramatic readings from
> Pepys' diaries, Seven Times Salt revives the bustling energy of
> Restoration London, as described by English Literature's quirkiest
> and most beloved "man on the street".
>
> Karen Burciaga, violin and viol; Daniel Meyers, recorders; Joshua
> Schreiber Shalem, viol and Matthew Wright, lute. With special guests
> Michael Barrett, tenor and lute, and Kyle Parrish, narrator
>
> Tuesday June 10, 2008 8:00 PM St. Peter's Church, 320 Boston
> Post Rd., Weston MA
>
> Wednesday June 11, 2008 8:00 PM The Chapel At West Parish, 129
> Reservation Rd., Andover MA
>
> Thursday June 12, 2008 8:00 PM Lindsey Chapel, Emmanuel Church, 15
> Newbury St., Boston MA
>
> And the ticket link is on this page
>
> http://www.mktix.com/mktixrun/shared/mknporun?dir=mvarts.MKT-
> <http://www.mktix.com/mktixrun/shared/mknporun?dir=mvarts.MKT->
> 28&page=mkeventlistfrm.jsp&DisplayType=detail&Parent=SoHIP-E9150
>
>
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#537 From: "Jenny Doughty" <jmdought@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2008 11:36 pm
Subject: RE: Boston Area Concerts in June
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It sounds wonderful, and is actually within reach of me - well 100 miles or so anyway.
 
Jenny
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Susan Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:12 PM
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Boston Area Concerts in June

Oh! This sounds *lovely*. Wish I could be there! I hope some of you will be!

jeannine_kerwin wrote:
>
> Seven Times Salt
> A Brave Barrel of Oysters: the music of Samuel Pepys' London
>
> Samuel Pepys, one of history's most prolific diarists and a
> secretary of the Royal Navy during the reign of Charles II, was a
> man of his time and enjoyed all the cultural delights of the
> Restoration. He frequently heard some of the finest musicians of his
> day and often enjoyed music-making with the very same musicians in
> his drawing room after dinner. With music and dramatic readings from
> Pepys' diaries, Seven Times Salt revives the bustling energy of
> Restoration London, as described by English Literature's quirkiest
> and most beloved "man on the street".
>
> Karen Burciaga, violin and viol; Daniel Meyers, recorders; Joshua
> Schreiber Shalem, viol and Matthew Wright, lute. With special guests
> Michael Barrett, tenor and lute, and Kyle Parrish, narrator
>
> Tuesday June 10, 2008 8:00 PM St. Peter's Church, 320 Boston
> Post Rd., Weston MA
>
> Wednesday June 11, 2008 8:00 PM The Chapel At West Parish, 129
> Reservation Rd., Andover MA
>
> Thursday June 12, 2008 8:00 PM Lindsey Chapel, Emmanuel Church, 15
> Newbury St., Boston MA
>
> And the ticket link is on this page
>
> http://www.mktix.com/mktixrun/shared/mknporun?dir=mvarts.MKT-
> <http://www.mktix.com/mktixrun/shared/mknporun?dir=mvarts.MKT->
> 28&page=mkeventlistfrm.jsp&DisplayType=detail&Parent=SoHIP-E9150
>
>


#538 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Sat May 31, 2008 8:20 am
Subject: Site problems
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Hi folks,

There's some strange problem with the site at the moment - I've had to
suspend the Recent Activity page temporarily, and posting annotations
appears to be very slow. Please don't post annotations twice, as
sometimes it works first time although it seems it hasn't.

I'll update you when things seem to be back to normal.

Thanks,
Phil

#539 From: "glyn_thomas1234" <glyn_thomas1234@...>
Date: Wed Jun 4, 2008 8:36 pm
Subject: Battle of Lowestoft article
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Wikipedia has an article entitled "Battle of Lowestoft":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lowestoft

and I've also copied a few pages about this battle from N.A.M.
Rodger's history of the navy: "The Command of the Ocean" which might
be useful. If anyone would like a pdf of them, please contact me AT MY
WORK ADDRESS, not my yahoo address:

gzthomas@...

and I'll send the pdf.

Glyn

#541 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:37 pm
Subject: Recent Activity update
gyford
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I’m sorry for the continued lack of the lists of recent annotations on
the Recent Activity page <http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/>. The
database queries that were generating these were taking a few seconds
each to run and I’ve been trying to cut back on my sites’ use of the
database. I’ve had a quick attempt at making these more efficient but
haven’t had any joy yet.

There is a way I can get Movable Type, the software that runs the site,
to generate these lists automatically when a new annotation is posted,
but I’d like to change the way the software is installed before doing
this. (For those interested, I’d move MT to run under FastCGI which
should be more efficient.
<http://www.movabletype.org/documentation/administrator/maintenance/fastcgi.html\
>)

I hope to have time to do this, as well as upgrading Movable Type to the
latest version, which should also increase efficiency, some time over
the next week or so. Apologies again, but it’s been one of those busy weeks.


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#542 From: "John Mertz" <jm387407@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:51 pm
Subject: Concert
jm387407
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I was wondering if anyone went to that concert in Boston, and what it
was like, etc.

#543 From: Terry Foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:52 pm
Subject: Yahoo! News Story - Prince Charles pays off royal debt ... 350 years late - Yahoo! News
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Terry Foreman (terry.foreman@...) has sent you a news article.
(Email address has not been verified.)
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Debts are never forgotten.

Prince Charles pays off royal debt ... 350 years late - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080610/wl_uk_afp/britainroyalsdebtoffbeat

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#544 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: Concert
gyford
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On 2008-06-11 17:51, John Mertz wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone went to that concert in Boston, and what it
> was like, etc.

Jeannine posted an enthusiastic review of it here:

http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2008/05/22/8601.php#c216876


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#545 From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: Recent Activity update
beat_town
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No worries, Phil -- I (for one) knew you were working on it, and appreciate
simply having the Diary as a resource and diversion.


--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:

> From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
> Subject: [pepysdiary] Recent Activity update
> To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:37 PM
> I’m sorry for the continued lack of the lists of recent
> annotations on
> the Recent Activity page
> <http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/>. The
> database queries that were generating these were taking a
> few seconds
> each to run and I’ve been trying to cut back on my
> sites’ use of the
> database. I’ve had a quick attempt at making these more
> efficient but
> haven’t had any joy yet.
>
> There is a way I can get Movable Type, the software that
> runs the site,
> to generate these lists automatically when a new annotation
> is posted,
> but I’d like to change the way the software is installed
> before doing
> this. (For those interested, I’d move MT to run under
> FastCGI which
> should be more efficient.
>
<http://www.movabletype.org/documentation/administrator/maintenance/fastcgi.html\
>)
>
> I hope to have time to do this, as well as upgrading
> Movable Type to the
> latest version, which should also increase efficiency, some
> time over
> the next week or so. Apologies again, but it’s been one
> of those busy weeks.
>
>
> --
> Phil Gyford
> http://www.gyford.com/
>
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#546 From: Terry Foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:53 am
Subject: The 1679 Habeas Corpus Act -- 31 Car. 2, ch. 2, in the news in the United States
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Justices Rule Terror Suspects Can Appeal in Civilian Courts

WASHINGTON — Foreign terrorism suspects held at the Guantánamo Bay naval base in Cuba have constitutional rights to challenge their detention there in United States courts, the Supreme Court ruled, 5 to 4, on Thursday in a historic decision on the balance between personal liberties and national security.

“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/washington/12cnd-gitmo.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

"
We hold that those procedures are not an adequate and effective substitute for habeas corpus. ...(p. 10). 
"
We begin with a brief account of the history and origins of the writ. (p. 16)
"
Even when the importance of the writ was well understood in England, habeas relief often was denied by the courts or suspended by Parliament. Denial or suspension occurred in times of political unrest, to the anguish of the imprisoned and the outrage of those in sympathy with them. ....
"Civil strife and the Interregnum soon followed, and not until 1679 did Parliament try once more to secure the writ, this time through the (p. 19) Habeas Corpus Act of 1679, 31 Car. 2, ch. 2, id., at 935. The Act, which later would be described by Blackstone as the “stable bulwark of our liberties,” 1 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *137..., established procedures for issuing the writ; and it was the model upon which the habeas statutes of the 13 American Colonies were based...."
http://supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-1195.pdf


"The ruling came in the latest battle between the executive branch, Congress and the courts over how to cope with dangers to the country in the post-9/11 world. Although there have been enough rulings addressing that issue to confuse all but the most diligent scholars, this latest decision, in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, may be studied for years to come.

"In a harsh rebuke of the Bush administration, the justices rejected the administration’s argument that the individual protections provided by the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 and the Military Commissions Act of 2006 were more than adequate."
. ...

"Anthony Coley, a spokesman for Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, said: 'When Congress passed the Military Commissions Act in 2006, Senator Kennedy called the act "fatally flawed" and said "its evisceration of the writ of habeas corpus for all noncitizens is almost surely unconstitutional." Today, the Supreme Court agreed, and rejected the Bush administration’s blatant attempt to create a legal black hole beyond the reach of the rule of law.'"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/washington/12cnd-gitmo.html?hp=&pagewanted=all


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