#1165

From: "djc_ucl" <mapub07@...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2012 9:49 pm
Subject: Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed

Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed Saturday 26 May 2012
I have added a few B&W  photo to my photo stream

Pepys Diary 2012-05-26
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djc_ucl/sets/72157629910147956/

This completes the set of all that's fit to print �" and probably confirms that
my days of using real film are done.

DJC

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#1166

From: peter easton <eastonph@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 6:15 am
Subject: Re: Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed

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Thanks for sharing.

Who posted them? Its Glyn's Flickr Photostream, but the email below is signed DJC.

Can I upload some to the same album?

Peter Easton

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From: djc_ucl <mapub07@...>
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:49 PM
Subject: [pepysdiary] Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed

Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed Saturday 26 May 2012
I have added a few B&W photo to my photo stream

Pepys Diary 2012-05-26
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djc_ucl/sets/72157629910147956/

This completes the set of all that's fit to print â€" and probably confirms that my days of using real film are done.

DJC

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#1167

From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed

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Thank you for the photos! wish,wish, wish I could have been there!�

On 31 May 2012 07:49, djc_ucl <mapub07@...> wrote:

�

Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed Saturday 26 May 2012
I have added a few B&W photo to my photo stream

Pepys Diary 2012-05-26
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djc_ucl/sets/72157629910147956/

This completes the set of all that's fit to print �" and probably confirms that my days of using real film are done.

DJC

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#1168

From: Jenny Doughty <jmdought@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Photos from Walk and lunch at Oyster Shed

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Terrific photos – I wish I'd been able to be there too!

Jenny

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#1169

From: Richard Histon <Richard@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

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This has already been said Phil, but I can't tell you how much all this work is appreciated. What you've actually achieved, apart from bringing a lot of people to Pepys, is a historic thing in itself. I am sure the site (with the help of the various internet archive/wayback sites) - whether you want it or not - is now very well-thought of both academically and for enjoyment. Therefore you will always be remembered, just as other high-achievers are.

Richard.

On 29/05/2012 17:04, Phil Gyford wrote:

Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/05/29/13836.php

Usually diary entries appear at 11pm UK time, sort of simulating the idea that Pepys wrote it at the end of his day. I'm loath to break with this near decade-long tradition, but Thursday's entry will appear two hours early, at 9pm UK time. This is so that readers in the UK are more likely to be able to read it "live", should they wish to do so. I hope this doesn't spoil the routine of anyone too much!

--

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#1170

From: "pepyspal20" <pepyspal20@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 4:36 pm
Subject: So to bed

pepyspal20

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I've been with the diary since the first day, usually as a lurker.  Thank you
Phil, Language Hat, Robert Gertz, Australian Susan and all the many, many
amazing contributors to this blog.

"It's the best thing I ever....."  It has been an honor to read along with you. 
Pepys has taught me so much.  I've taken to reading while walking, something
Pepys has taught me.  What an amazing journey.  How sad it is that it is to end
tomorrow.

Favorite things:  Bringing Charles back into England, the entries on the plague
and, of course, the great plague, and so much more.

So to bed

Thank you all.

Kim Oliver
Pepyspal

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#1171

From: "Planet_Stories" <recursive_loop@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 7:55 pm
Subject: The Final Tweets...

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...are now appearing in my stream. Many thanks for all of the work that went
into the site, this group, and the tweets. What a trip!

Fred Kiesche

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#1172

From: Carol Dukes <carol.dukes@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 8:02 pm
Subject: RE: Site News: Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

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On behalf of lurkers everywhere, can I add my huge thanks to Phil and the other contributors. I haven’t contributed anything to the project but I do so appreciate the sheer quantity of work, the attention to detail, and the good-spirited nature of the whole enterprise – and I’ve learnt an enormous amount.

Personally I think Phil should get an OBE (or a knighthood) for services to history / literature / new media. I haven’t come across a blog that comes close.

Carol Dukes

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Sent: 31 May 2012 15:52
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Phil Gyford
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Site News: Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/05/29/13836.php

Usually diary entries appear at 11pm UK time, sort of simulating the idea that Pepys wrote it at the end of his day. I'm loath to break with this near decade-long tradition, but Thursday's entry will appear two hours early, at 9pm UK time. This is so that readers in the UK are more likely to be able to read it "live", should they wish to do so. I hope this doesn't spoil the routine of anyone too much!

--

Phil Gyford

http://www.gyford.com/

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#1173

From: Mary Mcintyre <marykmcintyre@...>
Date: Thu May 31, 2012 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

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Damn skippy! Phil has done a remarkable service & has inspired all of us.

Regards,

Mary

On 2012-05-31, at 4:02 PM, Carol Dukes <carol.dukes@...> wrote:

On behalf of lurkers everywhere, can I add my huge thanks to Phil and the other contributors. I haven’t contributed anything to the project but I do so appreciate the sheer quantity of work, the attention to detail, and the good-spirited nature of the whole enterprise – and I’ve learnt an enormous amount.

Personally I think Phil should get an OBE (or a knighthood) for services to history / literature / new media. I haven’t come across a blog that comes close.

Carol Dukes

From: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Histon
Sent: 31 May 2012 15:52
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Phil Gyford
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Site News: Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

This has already been said Phil, but I can't tell you how much all this work is appreciated. What you've actually achieved, apart from bringing a lot of people to Pepys, is a historic thing in itself. I am sure the site (with the help of the various internet archive/wayback sites) - whether you want it or not - is now very well-thought of both academically and for enjoyment. Therefore you will always be remembered, just as other high-achievers are.

Richard.

On 29/05/2012 17:04, Phil Gyford wrote:

Thursday's entry will appear two hours earlier

http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/05/29/13836.php

Usually diary entries appear at 11pm UK time, sort of simulating the idea that Pepys wrote it at the end of his day. I'm loath to break with this near decade-long tradition, but Thursday's entry will appear two hours early, at 9pm UK time. This is so that readers in the UK are more likely to be able to read it "live", should they wish to do so. I hope this doesn't spoil the routine of anyone too much!

--

Phil Gyford

http://www.gyford.com/

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#1174

From: "pepyspal20" <pepyspal20@...>
Date: Fri Jun 1, 2012 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: So to bed

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--- In pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com, "pepyspal20" <pepyspal20@...> wrote:
>
> I've been with the diary since the first day, usually as a lurker.  Thank you
Phil, Language Hat, Robert Gertz, Australian Susan and all the many, many
amazing contributors to this blog.
>
> "It's the best thing I ever....."  It has been an honor to read along with
you.  Pepys has taught me so much.  I've taken to reading while walking,
something Pepys has taught me.  What an amazing journey.  How sad it is that it
is to end tomorrow.
>
> Favorite things:  Bringing Charles back into England, the entries on the
plague and, of course, the great fire, (not great plague - Oops.) and so much
more.
>
> So to bed
>
> Thank you all.
>
> Kim Oliver
> Pepyspal
>

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#1175

From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Fri Jun 1, 2012 9:38 pm
Subject: Goodbye Mr. Pepys

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After faithfully writing almost nightly for nine years, noted diarist Samuel Pepys will end his blogging today. Bloggers come and go, but Pepys is unique in that he died in England more than 300 years ago.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2012/05/goodbye-mr-pepys.html

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#1176

From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Fri Jun 1, 2012 9:49 pm
Subject: Sent from Nieman Lab: Lessons in blogging (and tweeting) from Samuel Pepys

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Hello from the Nieman Journalism Lab!

Terry Foreman (terry.foreman@...) wanted to share one of our stories with you:

Lessons in blogging (and tweeting) from Samuel Pepys

Read the full story here: http://www.niemanlab.org/2012/06/lessons-in-blogging-and-tweeting-from-samuel-pepys/

About us: The Nieman Journalism Lab is a project at Harvard to investigate the future of news in an Internet age. Check us out at niemanlab.org or on Twitter @niemanlab.

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#1177

From: "MARY" <marykmcintyre@...>
Date: Fri Jun 1, 2012 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: Sent from Nieman Lab: Lessons in blogging (and tweeting) from Samuel Pepys

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Terry, thanks for this link. Phil is a Man of Mystery for most of us.
Interesting to hear a bit about the nuts and bolts of prepping the daily entries
and tweets -- daunting!!

--- In pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
>
> [image: Nieman Journalism Lab]
> Hello from the Nieman Journalism Lab <http://www.niemanlab.org/>!
>
> Terry Foreman (terry.foreman@...) wanted to share one of our
> stories with you:
>
> Lessons in blogging (and tweeting) from Samuel
>
Pepys<http://www.niemanlab.org/2012/06/lessons-in-blogging-and-tweeting-from-sam\
uel-pepys/>
>
> Read the full story here:
>
http://www.niemanlab.org/2012/06/lessons-in-blogging-and-tweeting-from-samuel-pe\
pys/
> *About us*: The Nieman Journalism Lab is a project at Harvard to
> investigate the future of news in an Internet age. Check us out at
> niemanlab.org <http://www.niemanlab.org/> or on Twitter
> @niemanlab<http://twitter.com/niemanlab>
> .
>
> If you'd like to get daily updates on what's happening in the future of
> news, sign up for our email newsletter <http://www.niemanlab.org/subscribe/>
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#1178

From: Linda Faucheux <faucheux33@...>
Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:08 am
Subject: Re: Sent from Nieman Lab: Lessons in blogging (and tweeting) from Samuel Pepys

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Terry, Thanks for sharing this! It helps.

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#1179

From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:09 am
Subject: A news reference to the Diary entry in which is recorded the Pepyses visit [to] the Synagogue on the festival of Simchat Torah

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The reference
http://www.thejc.com/judaism/judaism-features/68378/the-history-behind-prayer-royals

The entry glossed
http://www.pepysdiary.com/archive/1663/10/14/#c73818

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#1180

From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:04 am
Subject: Site News: Recent Press

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I just posted a summary of recent press coverage of the site. Rather than trying
to reformat it for this email, it's probably simpler if you visit it on the
website: http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/06/03/13840.php

Making all the links and quotes work here would be a bit tricky!

Phil



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#1181

From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2012 4:31 am
Subject: Re: Site News: Recent Press

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As ever and always - many thanks, Phil!!

On 3 June 2012 20:04, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:

�

I just posted a summary of recent press coverage of the site. Rather than trying to reformat it for this email, it's probably simpler if you visit it on the website: http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/06/03/13840.php

Making all the links and quotes work here would be a bit tricky!

Phil

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#1182

From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2012 5:42 am
Subject: As 1,000 boats prepare to take to the Thames for the Jubilee, a leading historian describes how the great royal river pageant was hijacked by the King's mistress

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As 1,000 boats prepare to take to the Thames for the Jubilee, a leading historian describes how the great royal river pageant was hijacked by the King's mistress

Three hundred and fifty years ago, on August 23, 1662, the River Thames disappeared.

The extraordinary sight was witnessed by one of the greatest observers of all time, the diarist Samuel Pepys, who, with his gift of being in the right place at the right time, had secured himself a vantage point on the roof of the new Banqueting House at Whitehall, overlooking the river.

Or rather, where the river should have been.

Instead, it appeared boarded over, such was the mass of vessels great and small crowded on it. Pepys estimated there were �a thousand barges and boats, I think, for we could see no water for them�.

Sorry to be a day late, but methinks the images are terrific!

Terry Foreman

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#1183

From: Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2012 9:30 am
Subject: About that 'other diary'

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This may be an inappropriate post in which case I apologise but will soldier on nonetheless ... The other 17th Century Diarist (John Evelyn) is ripe for the Gyford Treatment ... However, and here's the rub. Dear old Pepys covered a mere 10 years ... and look at the effort and time that Phi Gyford has put in over the years - John Evelyn's diary (discovered in a clothes basket 11 years after his death) covers 60 years of pretty detailed observations.
As a 'Teaser' I include a (carefully chosen) random sample:

6th September, 1651. I went with my wife to St. Germains, to condole with Mr. Waller's loss. I carried with me and treated at dinner that excellent and pious person the Dean of St. Paul's, Dr. Stewart, and Sir Lewis Dives (half-brother to the Earl of Bristol), who entertained us with his wonderful escape out of prison in Whitehall, the very evening before he was to have been put to death, leaping down out of a jakes two stories high into the Thames at high water, in the coldest of winter, and at night; so as by swimming he got to a boat that attended for him, though he was guarded by six musketeers. After this, he went about in women's habit, and then in a small-coal-man's, traveling 200 miles on foot, embarked for Scotland with some men he had raised, who coming on shore were all surprised and imprisoned on the Marquis of Montrose's score; he not knowing anything of their barbarous murder of that hero. This he told us was his fifth escape, and none less miraculous;

I am in the process of transcribing the Diary into html 4.01 format and have got to year 24 ... and that is only putting the text into a reasonably readable format - still to come are the notes that will make sense of, for example, references to the Comet of 1618, the Emperor Matthias and his Bohemians etc, etc.

What I'm getting round to saying is, is there anyone 'out there' in the Pepysian Community who would be interested in getting involved in a project which will be but a pale reflection of what Phil has achived but which would be something not yet done ?
Having 'baited' the hook I wait with bated breath for any interested responses - this would be a sort of distributed intellectual computation exercise - Oh. Yes, a really good knowledge of Latin, Italian (17th century, naturally), plants, painting, politics (etc ad infinitum) would be really useful.

Hopefully,
Eric.
(PS: I got 9% for Latin at School).

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#1184

From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:24 am
Subject: Re: About that 'other diary'

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Hi Eric,

I've often wondered about Evelyn's diary, and wished there was a good home for it online. (NOT that I'm suggesting I want to make one :) ).

Simply making a site that had one diary entry per page, with sensible URLs, would be a really good initial target. Then I could link to them from Sam's diary entries easily!

Adding all the contextual information is, as we all know, a never-ending additional goal...

Feel free to drop me a line any time if there's anything I can offer advice about.

Phil

On 4 Jun, 2012, at 10:30, Eric Mills wrote:

This may be an inappropriate post in which case I apologise but will soldier on nonetheless ... The other 17th Century Diarist (John Evelyn) is ripe for the Gyford Treatment ... However, and here's the rub. Dear old Pepys covered a mere 10 years ... and look at the effort and time that Phi Gyford has put in over the years - John Evelyn's diary (discovered in a clothes basket 11 years after his death) covers 60 years of pretty detailed observations.
As a 'Teaser' I include a (carefully chosen) random sample:

6th September, 1651. I went with my wife to St. Germains, to condole with Mr. Waller's loss. I carried with me and treated at dinner that excellent and pious person the Dean of St. Paul's, Dr. Stewart, and Sir Lewis Dives (half-brother to the Earl of Bristol), who entertained us with his wonderful escape out of prison in Whitehall, the very evening before he was to have been put to death, leaping down out of a jakes two stories high into the Thames at high water, in the coldest of winter, and at night; so as by swimming he got to a boat that attended for him, though he was guarded by six musketeers. After this, he went about in women's habit, and then in a small-coal-man's, traveling 200 miles on foot, embarked for Scotland with some men he had raised, who coming on shore were all surprised and imprisoned on the Marquis of Montrose's score; he not knowing anything of their ba rbarous murder of that hero. This he told us was his fifth escape, and none less miraculous;

I am in the process of transcribing the Diary into html 4.01 format and have got to year 24 ... and that is only putting the text into a reasonably readable format - still to come are the notes that will make sense of, for example, references to the Comet of 1618, the Emperor Matthias and his Bohemians etc, etc.

What I'm getting round to saying is, is there anyone 'out there' in the Pepysian Community who would be interested in getting involved in a project which will be but a pale reflection of what Phil has achived but which would be something not yet done ?
Having 'baited' the hook I wait with bated breath for any interested responses - this would be a sort of distributed intellectual computation exercise - Oh. Yes, a really good knowledge of Latin, Italian (17th century, naturally), plants, painting, politics (etc ad infinitum) would be really useful.

Hopefully,
Eric.
(PS: I got 9% for Latin at School).

Phil Gyford

http://www.gyford.com/

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#1185

From: Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:30 pm
Subject: RE: About that 'other diary'

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Hi Phil,
Sorry about the typo Phi-(Beta-Kappa) in the earlier posting.
Your offer of a per diem link system is good - plenty of time to sort that out though.

The 'sensible' url would be, in my humble opinion, would be something like:
http://where-ever-it-is.com/16510906.htm
which would point at the entry that I partially quoted in the original posting.

I'm currently using a 'hover text' javascript that seems to work quite well for giving detail of words/items I don't think are common ... for example, it may be that the 'jakes' qukoted in the sample is: a toilet, especially an outdoor one. which, if true, would make the item even more hilarious !

Enough of this banter - my sore nose to the grindstone again !

I hope you that, later on, don't regret your unstinting offer of help. Thanks.

In friendship,
Eric.

To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
From: lists@...
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:24:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] About that 'other diary'

Hi Eric,

I've often wondered about Evelyn's diary, and wished there was a good home for it online. (NOT that I'm suggesting I want to make one :) ).

Simply making a site that had one diary entry per page, with sensible URLs, would be a really good initial target. Then I could link to them from Sam's diary entries easily!

Adding all the contextual information is, as we all know, a never-ending additional goal...

Feel free to drop me a line any time if there's anything I can offer advice about.

Phil

On 4 Jun, 2012, at 10:30, Eric Mills wrote:

This may be an inappropriate post in which case I apologise but will soldier on nonetheless ... The other 17th Century Diarist (John Evelyn) is ripe for the Gyford Treatment ... However, and here's the rub. Dear old Pepys covered a mere 10 years ... and look at the effort and time that Phi Gyford has put in over the years - John Evelyn's diary (discovered in a clothes basket 11 years after his death) covers 60 years of pretty detailed observations.
As a 'Teaser' I include a (carefully chosen) random sample:

6th September, 1651. I went with my wife to St. Germains, to condole with Mr. Waller's loss. I carried with me and treated at dinner that excellent and pious person the Dean of St. Paul's, Dr. Stewart, and Sir Lewis Dives (half-brother to the Earl of Bristol), who entertained us with his wonderful escape out of prison in Whitehall, the very evening before he was to have been put to death, leaping down out of a jakes two stories high into the Thames at high water, in the coldest of winter, and at night; so as by swimming he got to a boat that attended for him, though he was guarded by six musketeers. After this, he went about in women's habit, and then in a small-coal-man's, traveling 200 miles on foot, embarked for Scotland with some men he had raised, who coming on shore were all surprised and imprisoned on the Marquis of Montrose's score; he not knowing anything of their ba rbarous murder of that hero. This he told us was his fifth escape, and none less miraculous;

I am in the process of transcribing the Diary into html 4.01 format and have got to year 24 ... and that is only putting the text into a reasonably readable format - still to come are the notes that will make sense of, for example, references to the Comet of 1618, the Emperor Matthias and his Bohemians etc, etc.

What I'm getting round to saying is, is there anyone 'out there' in the Pepysian Community who would be interested in getting involved in a project which will be but a pale reflection of what Phil has achived but which would be something not yet done ?
Having 'baited' the hook I wait with bated breath for any interested responses - this would be a sort of distributed intellectual computation exercise - Oh. Yes, a really good knowledge of Latin, Italian (17th century, naturally), plants, painting, politics (etc ad infinitum) would be really useful.

Hopefully,
Eric.
(PS: I got 9% for Latin at School).

Phil Gyford

http://www.gyford.com/

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#1186

From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:14 pm
Subject: Re: About that 'other diary'

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I would certainly love to read this online daily! Wonderful project, Eric. And if I can help you, I will! (I got a Grade 6 for O Level Latin :( ) BTW I think jakes refers to a privy. What it would be is a jutting out piece of the castle wall which delivered the detritus directly into the river through a round aperture. The prisoner must have been trusted to enter the little chamber by himself to relieve himself (probably because of his rank) - and only high class prisoners would have had such facilities - and he then squeezed himself through the hole and dropped into the river. I remember going to Doune Castle in Scotland with my children when they were young and pointing out the jakes on the side of that castle wall. The children were fascinated to be told that that was where Mary Queen of Scots went to the toilet. I regretted that their father had informed them of this fact as that is the one item of information concerning MQOS's imprisonment in the castle they retained..........

On 4 June 2012 19:30, Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...> wrote:

�

This may be an inappropriate post in which case I apologise but will soldier on nonetheless ... The other 17th Century Diarist (John Evelyn) is ripe for the Gyford Treatment ... However, and here's the rub. Dear old Pepys covered a mere 10 years ... and look at the effort and time that Phi Gyford has put in over the years - John Evelyn's diary (discovered in a clothes basket 11 years after his death) covers 60 years of pretty detailed observations.
As a 'Teaser' I include a (carefully chosen) random sample:

6th September, 1651. I went with my wife to St. Germains, to condole with Mr. Waller's loss. I carried with me and treated at dinner that excellent and pious person the Dean of St. Paul's, Dr. Stewart, and Sir Lewis Dives (half-brother to the Earl of Bristol), who entertained us with his wonderful escape out of prison in Whitehall, the very evening before he was to have been put to death, leaping down out of a jakes two stories high into the Thames at high water, in the coldest of winter, and at night; so as by swimming he got to a boat that attended for him, though he was guarded by six musketeers. After this, he went about in women's habit, and then in a small-coal-man's, traveling 200 miles on foot, embarked for Scotland with some men he had raised, who coming on shore were all surprised and imprisoned on the Marquis of Montrose's score; he not knowing anything of their barbarous murder of that hero. This he told us was his fifth escape, and none less miraculous;

I am in the process of transcribing the Diary into html 4.01 format and have got to year 24 ... and that is only putting the text into a reasonably readable format - still to come are the notes that will make sense of, for example, references to the Comet of 1618, the Emperor Matthias and his Bohemians etc, etc.

What I'm getting round to saying is, is there anyone 'out there' in the Pepysian Community who would be interested in getting involved in a project which will be but a pale reflection of what Phil has achived but which would be something not yet done ?
Having 'baited' the hook I wait with bated breath for any interested responses - this would be a sort of distributed intellectual computation exercise - Oh. Yes, a really good knowledge of Latin, Italian (17th century, naturally), plants, painting, politics (etc ad infinitum) would be really useful.

Hopefully,
Eric.
(PS: I got 9% for Latin at School).

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From: Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 9:02 am
Subject: RE: About that 'other diary'

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Hello Susan,
Thank you for your kind offer of help ... the potential team is growing. **
You are right about the 'jakes' ... I had originally thought, from my somewhat patchy memory, that it was too 'slangy' to be within the era-range ... but it is surprising how many apparently modern words/phrases are deeply rooted in the past. I must admit that that particular 'episode' sounds a bit like a "pre-write" of Sir Harry Flashman on a good day!

As a reward to you and so that you can get in the swing of things, here are a couple of links to pdf versions of the 1901 edition I am working from:
Volume 1:
http://ia700304.us.archive.org/17/items/diaryofjohnevely01eveliala/diaryofjohnevely01eveliala.pdf
Volume 2:
http://ia600308.us.archive.org/7/items/diaryofjohnevely02eveliala/diaryofjohnevely02eveliala.pdf

They are both about 20 MegaBytes in length and can be viewed using Adobe's Acrobat Viewer - I use the 100%-view so that I can distinguish between the various accented characters and decipher the italicised bits. (Those are the places where my OCR stuff falls down a bit and manual editing is needed to translate it into internetesque gobble-dey-gook).

About MQOS and her jakes visit - a shame your thunder had already been stolen but it was brilliant that the anecdote was reinforced by the double telling ... Memories are made of this - lucky kids.

** I may have acquired a host, a botanist and now a Latinist.
Anyone else who wishes to step up to the plate would be welcomed aboard (mixed metaphor - but you know what I mean) - However, and it is a big However, we are talking a biggish thing ... I mentioned 60 years span - that is the number of years I haven't yet processed. So, we are not talking about publishing-a-page-per-day-rate - which is why I am looking for 'farming out' editing, proof-reading and the like.

In friendship,
Eric.

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From: susan.thomas@...
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:14:48 +1000
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] About that 'other diary'

On 4 June 2012 19:30, Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...> wrote:

This may be an inappropriate post in which case I apologise but will soldier on nonetheless ... The other 17th Century Diarist (John Evelyn) is ripe for the Gyford Treatment ... However, and here's the rub. Dear old Pepys covered a mere 10 years ... and look at the effort and time that Phi Gyford has put in over the years - John Evelyn's diary (discovered in a clothes basket 11 years after his death) covers 60 years of pretty detailed observations.
As a 'Teaser' I include a (carefully chosen) random sample:

6th September, 1651. I went with my wife to St. Germains, to condole with Mr. Waller's loss. I carried with me and treated at dinner that excellent and pious person the Dean of St. Paul's, Dr. Stewart, and Sir Lewis Dives (half-brother to the Earl of Bristol), who entertained us with his wonderful escape out of prison in Whitehall, the very evening before he was to have been put to death, leaping down out of a jakes two stories high into the Thames at high water, in the coldest of winter, and at night; so as by swimming he got to a boat that attended for him, though he was guarded by six musketeers. After this, he went about in women's habit, and then in a small-coal-man's, traveling 200 miles on foot, embarked for Scotland with some men he had raised, who coming on shore were all surprised and imprisoned on the Marquis of Montrose's score; he not knowing anything of their barbarous murder of that hero. This he told us was his fifth escape, and none less miraculous;

I am in the process of transcribing the Diary into html 4.01 format and have got to year 24 ... and that is only putting the text into a reasonably readable format - still to come are the notes that will make sense of, for example, references to the Comet of 1618, the Emperor Matthias and his Bohemians etc, etc.

What I'm getting round to saying is, is there anyone 'out there' in the Pepysian Community who would be interested in getting involved in a project which will be but a pale reflection of what Phil has achived but which would be something not yet done ?
Having 'baited' the hook I wait with bated breath for any interested responses - this would be a sort of distributed intellectual computation exercise - Oh. Yes, a really good knowledge of Latin, Italian (17th century, naturally), plants, painting, politics (etc ad infinitum) would be really useful.

Hopefully,
Eric.
(PS: I got 9% for Latin at School).

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#1188

From: "phe_tryagain" <eastonph@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 9:09 am
Subject: Pepys Geeks meet - more photos

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Dear all. I have uploaded my photos on Flickr. Link below. You should all be
able to see them ok. There's a 'slideshow' option at the top right.

If you click on Sets (top left) you can also see another set called 'Pepys' with
a collection of photos I took a few years ago of Pepys related sites, including
the font where he was baptised.

Feel free to add any comments (or corrections).

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzRQLuL

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#1189

From: peter easton <eastonph@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Pepys Geeks meet - more photos

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Note: Each picture has a few comments with it. In slideshow mode, click 'show info' to see these. To add comments, select individual pictures, and comment underneath.

From: phe_tryagain <eastonph@...>
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 11:09 AM
Subject: [pepysdiary] Pepys Geeks meet - more photos

Dear all. I have uploaded my photos on Flickr. Link below. You should all be able to see them ok. There's a 'slideshow' option at the top right.

If you click on Sets (top left) you can also see another set called 'Pepys' with a collection of photos I took a few years ago of Pepys related sites, including the font where he was baptised.

Feel free to add any comments (or corrections).

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzRQLuL

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#1190

From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Pepys Geeks meet - more photos

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Thank you, Peter!

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:09 AM, phe_tryagain <eastonph@...> wrote:

Dear all. I have uploaded my photos on Flickr. Link below. You should all be able to see them ok. There's a 'slideshow' option at the top right.

If you click on Sets (top left) you can also see another set called 'Pepys' with a collection of photos I took a few years ago of Pepys related sites, including the font where he was baptised.

Feel free to add any comments (or corrections).

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzRQLuL

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From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 9:14 pm
Subject: The transit of Venus and the Royal Society in Pepys's time

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Here is a pretty good article on the transit.

James Gregory and Edmond Halley were FRS whom Pepys knew.

Horrocks' publications were known in Pepys's time and acknowledged by Newton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Venus#Modern_observations

Concern in the Royal Society in about the determination of the "parallax" of the Earth's orbit to determine the motion of the Earth, including Sandwich's observations in Spain of an eclipse.

https://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=site%3Apepysdiary.com+parallax&oq=site%3Apepysdiary.com+parallax&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.12...3229.32653.0.39442.28.28.0.0.0.0.2215.14534.8j3j4j3j1j4j0j2j1j2.28.0...0.0.uA6nBTGwt68

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From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:28 pm
Subject: For Scientists of the 18th Century, the Transit of Venus Was Their Final Chance to Measure the Solar System - The Atlantic

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http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/06/for-scientists-of-the-18th-century-the-transit-of-venus-was-their-final-chance-to-measure-the-solar-system/258013/#.T86H0WdZBgU.gmail

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#1193

From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Pepys Geeks meet - more photos

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Lovely photos of a memorable occasion! Particularly pleasing to see what 'Mary' looks like! wish I could have been there! - A.S.

On 6 June 2012 00:39, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:

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Thank you, Peter!

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:09 AM, phe_tryagain <eastonph@...> wrote:

Dear all. I have uploaded my photos on Flickr. Link below. You should all be able to see them ok. There's a 'slideshow' option at the top right.

If you click on Sets (top left) you can also see another set called 'Pepys' with a collection of photos I took a few years ago of Pepys related sites, including the font where he was baptised.

Feel free to add any comments (or corrections).

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzRQLuL

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#1194

From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:34 pm
Subject: Fwd: Earliest instrumental temperature record recovered in Italy | EARTH Magazine

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Contemporaneous with the early years of the Royal Society.� Thanks to rb.

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Subject: Earliest instrumental temperature record recovered in Italy | EARTH Magazine
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http://www.earthmagazine.org/article/earliest-instrumental-temperature-record-recovered

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