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#1084 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:29 am
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
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Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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#1085 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
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Sorry about the slowness.

I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to catch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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#1086 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:05 pm
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
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Thanks for all your hard work, Phil. As it all runs so well normally, we tend to not realise all the effort that goes in to this. Much gratitude!

On 17 January 2012 02:41, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
 

Sorry about the slowness.


I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to catch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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Office: +61 7 3503 1765
Mobile: 0411 094 688
Fax: +61 7 3318 7677

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#1087 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:00 am
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
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Did what you did help?  Alas, not yet. 

As Susan has written, your work is not unappreciated (FWIW). 

But it is surely aggravating to have the site bite back, as though you had created your own monster!

Terry


On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:


Sorry about the slowness.

I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to catch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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Susan Thomas

Emphron Informatics
Level 3 88 Jephson St
TOOWONG
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Office: +61 7 3503 1765
Mobile: 0411 094 688
Fax: +61 7 3318 7677

Legal Notice: This electronic mail and its attachments are intended solely for the person(s) to whom they are addressed and contain information, which is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure, except for the purpose for which they are intended. Dissemination, distribution, or reproduction by anyone other than the intended recipients is prohibited and may be illegal. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and return the electronic mail and its attachments and destroy any copies, which may be in your possession. By reading this communication, the recipient(s) have accepted that it is confidential and NOT subject to any form of public disclosure. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. The company screens electronic mails for viruses but does not warrant that this electronic mail is free of any viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this electronic mail.







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#1088 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
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I've turned off the list of recently-annotated diary entries on the Recent Activity page temporarily. This was certainly one cause of slowness. I'll try and find time to find a solution and get it back up again later today.


On 17 Jan, 2012, at 01:00, terry foreman wrote:



Did what you did help?  Alas, not yet.  

As Susan has written, your work is not unappreciated (FWIW).  

But it is surely aggravating to have the site bite back, as though you had created your own monster!

Terry


On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:


Sorry about the slowness.

I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to catch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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Susan Thomas

Emphron Informatics
Level 3 88 Jephson St
TOOWONG
QLD 4066

Office: +61 7 3503 1765
Mobile: 0411 094 688
Fax: +61 7 3318 7677

Legal Notice: This electronic mail and its attachments are intended solely for the person(s) to whom they are addressed and contain information, which is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure, except for the purpose for which they are intended. Dissemination, distribution, or reproduction by anyone other than the intended recipients is prohibited and may be illegal. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and return the electronic mail and its attachments and destroy any copies, which may be in your possession. By reading this communication, the recipient(s) have accepted that it is confidential and NOT subject to any form of public disclosure. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. The company screens electronic mails for viruses but does not warrant that this electronic mail is free of any viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this electronic mail.







-- 
Phil Gyford













-- 
Phil Gyford






#1089 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:51 am
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
gyford
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Sorry that this is still missing. The list is generated by a database query that appears to take several minutes to run, blocking everything else in the meantime. I'm trying to find a new way of doing it that doesn't cause this problem.

On 17 Jan, 2012, at 12:26, Phil Gyford wrote:



I've turned off the list of recently-annotated diary entries on the Recent Activity page temporarily. This was certainly one cause of slowness. I'll try and find time to find a solution and get it back up again later today.


On 17 Jan, 2012, at 01:00, terry foreman wrote:



Did what you did help?  Alas, not yet.  

As Susan has written, your work is not unappreciated (FWIW).  

But it is surely aggravating to have the site bite back, as though you had created your own monster!

Terry


On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:


Sorry about the slowness.

I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to ca tch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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Kind regards,



Susan Thomas

Emphron Informatics
Level 3 88 Jephson St
TOOWONG
QLD 4066

Office: +61 7 3503 1765
Mobile: 0411 094 688
Fax: +61 7 3318 7677

Legal Notice: This electronic mail and its attachments are intended solely for the person(s) to whom they are addressed and contain information, which is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure, except for the purpose for which they are i ntended. Dissemination, distribution, or reproduction by anyone other than the intended recipients is prohibited and may be illegal. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and return the electronic mail and its attachments and destroy any copies, which may be in your possession. By reading this communication, the recipient(s) have accepted that it is confidential and NOT subject to any form of public disclosure. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. The company screens electronic mails for viruses but does not warrant that this electronic mail is free of any viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this electronic mail.







-- 
Phil Gyford













-- 
Phil Gyford










-- 
Phil Gyford






#1090 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
susan.thomas@...
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Thanks for all your hard work, Phil! Much appreciated by us all.

On 18 January 2012 19:51, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
 

Sorry that this is still missing. The list is generated by a database query that appears to take several minutes to run, blocking everything else in the meantime. I'm trying to find a new way of doing it that doesn't cause this problem.


On 17 Jan, 2012, at 12:26, Phil Gyford wrote:



I've turned off the list of recently-annotated diary entries on the Recent Activity page temporarily. This was certainly one cause of slowness. I'll try and find time to find a solution and get it back up again later today.


On 17 Jan, 2012, at 01:00, terry foreman wrote:



Did what you did help?  Alas, not yet.  

As Susan has written, your work is not unappreciated (FWIW).  

But it is surely aggravating to have the site bite back, as though you had created your own monster!

Terry


On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:


Sorry about the slowness.

I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to ca tch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


--
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http://www.gyford.com/







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Kind regards,



Susan Thomas

Emphron Informatics
Level 3 88 Jephson St
TOOWONG
QLD 4066

Office: +61 7 3503 1765
Mobile: 0411 094 688
Fax: +61 7 3318 7677

Legal Notice: This electronic mail and its attachments are intended solely for the person(s) to whom they are addressed and contain information, which is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure, except for the purpose for which they are i ntended. Dissemination, distribution, or reproduction by anyone other than the intended recipients is prohibited and may be illegal. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and return the electronic mail and its attachments and destroy any copies, which may be in your possession. By reading this communication, the recipient(s) have accepted that it is confidential and NOT subject to any form of public disclosure. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. The company screens electronic mails for viruses but does not warrant that this electronic mail is free of any viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this electronic mail.







-- 
Phil Gyford













-- 
Phil Gyford










-- 
Phil Gyford








--
Kind regards,



Susan Thomas

Emphron Informatics
Level 3 88 Jephson St
TOOWONG
QLD 4066

Office: +61 7 3503 1765
Mobile: 0411 094 688
Fax: +61 7 3318 7677

Legal Notice: This electronic mail and its attachments are intended solely for the person(s) to whom they are addressed and contain information, which is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure, except for the purpose for which they are intended. Dissemination, distribution, or reproduction by anyone other than the intended recipients is prohibited and may be illegal. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and return the electronic mail and its attachments and destroy any copies, which may be in your possession. By reading this communication, the recipient(s) have accepted that it is confidential and NOT subject to any form of public disclosure. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. The company screens electronic mails for viruses but does not warrant that this electronic mail is free of any viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this electronic mail.



#1091 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Annotation slowness
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Sorry that it's still down - I'll have time on Saturday to have a look at it! 

On 18 Jan, 2012, at 12:09, Susan Thomas wrote:



Thanks for all your hard work, Phil! Much appreciated by us all.

On 18 January 2012 19:51, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
 

Sorry that this is still missing. The list is generated by a database query that appears to take several minutes to run, blocking everything else in the meantime. I'm trying to find a new way of doing it that doesn't cause this problem.


On 17 Jan, 2012, at 12:26, Phil Gyford wrote:



I've turned off the list of recently-annotated diary entries on the Recent Activity page temporarily. This was certainly one cause of slowness. I'll try and find time to find a solution and get it back up again later today.


On 17 Jan, 2012, at 01:00, terry foreman wrote:



Did what you did help?  Alas, not yet.  

As Susan has written, your work is not unappreciated (FWIW).  

But it is surely aggravating to have the site bite back, as though you had created your own monster!

Terry


On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:


Sorry about the slowness.

I *might* have done something which will help... Languagehat emailed me while the site wasn't even responding, and I happened to ca tch it while it was at its worse. There was a single database process that was taking minutes to send all its data, and that was holding up everything else.

I eventually worked out that that database query was coming from one of the several anti-spam systems! I've turned it off entirely now. I'm not sure that it's made a difference, and there's at least one other thing making an occasional, very slow database query which I haven't tracked down yet.

Let me know if it seems to have helped...

Phil


On 16 Jan, 2012, at 09:29, Susan Thomas wrote:



Yes, I agree - treacle.

On 16 January 2012 04:31, terry foreman <terry.foreman@...> wrote:
 

It''s been VERY SLOW.

Terry Foreman

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am I right in thinking that posting annotations can be very slow - the site taking a long time to respond? Does it seem even slower than usual the last few days?

I'm having trouble accessing the admin system myself, and was wondering if it was just me...?

Thanks,
Phil


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#1092 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:36 pm
Subject: Site News: Recent Activity page problems
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[An update on what I was posting to this list above over the past few days...]


Recent Activity page problems
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/01/21/13235.php

You may have noticed that the Recent Activity
<http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page has been problematic this past week,
with the lists of recently-commented-on pages disappearing. It's all back now,
and working OK, but it won't be updating as frequently as it used to.

The problem was that generating one of those lists took the database four or
five minutes, and while this was happening many other operations were held up.
It has been the case that whenever a new annotation was posted then the
appropriate list would update immediately. Which, of course, meant that every
single new annotation required the database to do nothing else for a few
minutes.

I've looked into ways of making this operation more speedy but it looks like
there's no easy way to do so. The only option for this to happen more quickly is
to move this website to a more high-powered webserver -- which would be good,
but this far into the Diary, and so close to the end, I'm not keen to make such
a drastic move!

So for now we have a compromise: The Recent Activity page is back, but it will
now only update once per hour. Occasionally you might notice some things slowing
down a lot, but it will be rare. This will also, hopefully, mean that posting
annotations will be faster than it used to be ("that's not hard" you might be
thinking!).

As ever, let me know if you notice anything particularly wrong, and thanks for
your patience.


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#1093 From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Recent Activity page problems
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Sounds like a good compromise.  Given the number of annotations over the time period the site has been up, and the resulting size of the DB, I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner!  As always, thanks for your hard work on the site, Phil.

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From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Subject: [pepysdiary] Site News: Recent Activity page problems
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 21, 2012, 9:36 AM

 

[An update on what I was posting to this list above over the past few days...]

Recent Activity page problems
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/01/21/13235.php

You may have noticed that the Recent Activity <http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page has been problematic this past week, with the lists of recently-commented-on pages disappearing. It's all back now, and working OK, but it won't be updating as frequently as it used to.

The problem was that generating one of those lists took the database four or five minutes, and while this was happening many other operations were held up. It has been the case that whenever a new annotation was posted then the appropriate list would update immediately. Which, of course, meant that every single new annotation required the database to do nothing else for a few minutes.

I've looked into ways of making this operation more speedy but it looks like there's no easy way to do so. The only option for this to happen more quickly is to move this website to a more high-powered webserver -- which would be good, but this far into the Diary, and so close to the end, I'm not keen to make such a drastic move!

So for now we have a compromise: The Recent Activity page is back, but it will now only update once per hour. Occasionally you might notice some things slowing down a lot, but it will be rare. This will also, hopefully, mean that posting annotations will be faster than it used to be ("that's not hard" you might be thinking!).

As ever, let me know if you notice anything particularly wrong, and thanks for your patience.

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#1094 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:25 pm
Subject: Site News: End of the Diary in Massachusetts
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End of the Diary in Massachusetts
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/01/31/13272.php


For those unable to make it to the end-of-Diary gathering in London
<http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2011/11/27/13102.php>, but might be
closer to Massachusetts, here's something for you! From Carl in Boston and
Jeannine Kerwin:

> Where the Diary is ending in May, the folks in the Massachusetts will be
getting together on May 13th at 1:00 PM, for a “Dutch Treat” lunch at the
Wayside Inn, Sudbury MA, USA <http://www.wayside.org/>. Lunch menu here:
http://www.wayside.org/dining/lunch
>
> Feel free to come for lunch, a snack or a just a visit. We’ll try to make a
reservation in advance so if folks can please confirm if they will attend and
how many, we’ll get a proper place set aside.  Please check your calendars as it
may be the last chance to drink at toast to Sam with fellow Pepysians!
>
> We’ll try to firm up the final numbers in early May.

For further details, or to confirm, feel free to contact Carl at
carl_wickstrom@...


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#1095 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:25 am
Subject: Radio 4 Pepys Diary
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Here's a link to the broadcasts Eric called attention to as podcasts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/samuel_pepys



#1096 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Thu Feb 2, 2012 3:20 pm
Subject: Site News: Recent Activity page out of action again
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Site News: Recent Activity page out of action again
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/02/13274.php

I'm afraid I've had to stop the Recent Activity
<http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page from updating again. The database
queries that make these listings are very slow and they're holding up other
features of the site, such as posting annotations.

I've tried various alternative methods of making these lists but seem to keep
coming up against the fact that the database is a bit low-powered to perform
actions with the number of annotations we've accumulated plus the many spam
annotations that get caught. So I'm looking into moving the database to a more
powerful server and will hopefully have things up and running again before too
long.

Thanks for your patience!


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#1097 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Thu Feb 2, 2012 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Recent Activity page out of action again
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Thank you Phil, for everything you do!

On 3 February 2012 01:20, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
 

Site News: Recent Activity page out of action again
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/02/13274.php

I'm afraid I've had to stop the Recent Activity <http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page from updating again. The database queries that make these listings are very slow and they're holding up other features of the site, such as posting annotations.

I've tried various alternative methods of making these lists but seem to keep coming up against the fact that the database is a bit low-powered to perform actions with the number of annotations we've accumulated plus the many spam annotations that get caught. So I'm looking into moving the database to a more powerful server and will hopefully have things up and running again before too long.

Thanks for your patience!

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#1098 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Fri Feb 3, 2012 12:33 pm
Subject: Site News: Recent Activity page is back
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Site News: Recent Activity page is back
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/03/13275.php

I had a brainwave about how the Recent Activity
<http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page is generated and it seems to work. The
page is now re-created every five minutes and seems to do so without keeping the
database occupied for ages like it used to. Fingers crossed it'll keep working
like this from now on.

There might be occasions when it lists fewer recent things on the page,
depending on the distribution of where annotations are... but it's certainly
better than nothing.

(For the technically minded and interested... Previous versions of the page
required joins between the database tables holding annotations and entries, and
this was too much for the shared server to cope with without making temporary
tables etc. In the most recent previous version of the page, this was taking a
few minutes for each of the page's four lists, and prevente any other queries on
the annotations table (such as posting a new annotation). I realised I could get
much the same data without any joins, and this takes seconds. Much simpler!)


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#1099 From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@...>
Date: Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Recent Activity page is back
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Excellent!  I bet you had this brainwave when you weren't consciously thinking about it (one reason why so many good ideas happen when in the shower...   :-)

--- On Fri, 2/3/12, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:

From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Subject: [pepysdiary] Site News: Recent Activity page is back
To: pepysdiary@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 3, 2012, 7:33 AM

 

Site News: Recent Activity page is back
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/03/13275.php

I had a brainwave about how the Recent Activity <http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page is generated and it seems to work. The page is now re-created every five minutes and seems to do so without keeping the database occupied for ages like it used to. Fingers crossed it'll keep working like this from now on.

There might be occasions when it lists fewer recent things on the page, depending on the distribution of where annotations are... but it's certainly better than nothing.

(For the technically minded and interested... Previous versions of the page required joins between the database tables holding annotations and entries, and this was too much for the shared server to cope with without making temporary tables etc. In the most recent previous version of the page, this was taking a few minutes for each of the page's four lists, and prevente any other queries on the annotations table (such as posting a new annotation). I realised I could get much the same data without any joins, and this takes seconds. Much simpler!)

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#1100 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Recent Activity page is back
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Great! Thanks for all your enhancements, which, because it all in general works so smoothly, we tend to take for granted and shouldn't! Thank you.

On 3 February 2012 22:33, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
 

Site News: Recent Activity page is back
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/03/13275.php

I had a brainwave about how the Recent Activity <http://www.pepysdiary.com/recent/> page is generated and it seems to work. The page is now re-created every five minutes and seems to do so without keeping the database occupied for ages like it used to. Fingers crossed it'll keep working like this from now on.

There might be occasions when it lists fewer recent things on the page, depending on the distribution of where annotations are... but it's certainly better than nothing.

(For the technically minded and interested... Previous versions of the page required joins between the database tables holding annotations and entries, and this was too much for the shared server to cope with without making temporary tables etc. In the most recent previous version of the page, this was taking a few minutes for each of the page's four lists, and prevente any other queries on the annotations table (such as posting a new annotation). I realised I could get much the same data without any joins, and this takes seconds. Much simpler!)

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#1101 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:28 am
Subject: That's the way to do it!
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The age old pantomime of Punch and Judy is being recreated at the Barbican theatre in London, 350 years after the first recorded reference of the puppet show in the diaries of Samuel Pepys.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9692000/9692194.stm


#1102 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:17 pm
Subject: Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/10/13340.php

I’ve just added a new section to the site, for letters to and from Samuel Pepys.
It currently lists a selection of letters between Pepys and the era’s other
major diarist, John Evelyn.

These letters, along with their footnotes, are taken from Guy de la Bédoyère’s
website <http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm> with his kind
permission. That site has been linked to at relevant points during the diary,
but it seems a good idea to have them all on this site too, with links to all
the Encyclopedia references.

We also have quite a few letters that were exchanged between Pepys and various
correspondents from later years, but they won’t appear here until after the
diary ends, to avoid spoilers.


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#1103 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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I forgot the link to the section of the site, although I'm sure you'd have
managed to find it!  http://www.pepysdiary.com/letters/


On 10 Feb, 2012, at 14:17, Phil Gyford wrote:

> Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
> http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/10/13340.php
>
> I’ve just added a new section to the site, for letters to and from Samuel
Pepys. It currently lists a selection of letters between Pepys and the era’s
other major diarist, John Evelyn.
>
> These letters, along with their footnotes, are taken from Guy de la Bédoyère’s
website <http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm> with his kind
permission. That site has been linked to at relevant points during the diary,
but it seems a good idea to have them all on this site too, with links to all
the Encyclopedia references.
>
> We also have quite a few letters that were exchanged between Pepys and various
correspondents from later years, but they won’t appear here until after the
diary ends, to avoid spoilers.
>
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#1104 From: Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...>
Date: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:10 pm
Subject: RE: Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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Hello Phil,

You've probably already found out that the
http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm link has been taken over by 'snog.com' - interesting but a bit too modern for me.

In friendship,
Eric.

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> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:36:23 +0000
> Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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> I forgot the link to the section of the site, although I'm sure you'd have managed to find it! http://www.pepysdiary.com/letters/
>
>
> On 10 Feb, 2012, at 14:17, Phil Gyford wrote:
>
> > Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
> > http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/10/13340.php
> >
> > I’ve just added a new section to the site, for letters to and from Samuel Pepys. It currently lists a selection of letters between Pepys and the era’s other major diarist, John Evelyn.
> >
> > These letters, along with their footnotes, are taken from Guy de la Bédoyère’s website <http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm> with his kind permission. That site has been linked to at relevant points during the diary, but it seems a good idea to have them all on this site too, with links to all the Encyclopedia references.
> >
> > We also have quite a few letters that were exchanged between Pepys and various correspondents from later years, but they won’t appear here until after the diary ends, to avoid spoilers.
> >
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#1105 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:46 pm
Subject: Site News: Family Tree updated
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http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/13/13385.php

Site News: Family Tree updated

In case you like to keep an updated version of the Pepys Family Tree
<http://www.pepysdiary.com/background/familytree/> to hand, I've just made a
couple of small updates to it. I've added Babs and Betty, daughters of Roger
Pepys, and his new wife, Esther (all over on the far right). I've also added
Elizabeth Pickering's 1668 marriage to John Creed, which had gone unrecorded.

As ever, let me know if you have any corrections or additions for it.


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#1106 From: Phil Gyford <lists@...>
Date: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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It's working fine for me Eric, today and yesterday - maybe it's a problem at your end?

Phil


On 12 Feb, 2012, at 22:10, Eric Mills wrote:



Hello Phil,

You've probably already found out that the
http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm link has been taken over by 'snog.com' - interesting but a bit too modern for me.

In friendship,
Eric.

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> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:36:23 +0000
> Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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> I forgot the link to the section of the site, although I'm sure you'd have managed to find it! http://www.pepysdiary.com/letters/
> 
> 
> On 10 Feb, 2012, at 14:17, Phil Gyford wrote:
> 
> > Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
> > http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/10/13340.php
> > 
> > I’ve just added a new section to the site, for letters to and from Samuel Pepys. It currently lists a selection of letters between Pepys and the era’s other major diarist, John Evelyn.
> > 
> > These letters, along with their footnotes, are taken from Guy de la Bédoyère’s website <http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm> with his kind permission. That site has been linked to at relevant points during the diary, but it seems a good idea to have them all on this site too, with links to all the Encyclopedia references.
> > 
> > We also have quite a few letters that were exchanged between Pepys and various correspondents from later years, but they won’t appear here until after the diary ends, to avoid spoilers.
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#1107 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:29 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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It works and has worked fine for me, too, from Murray. Kentucky, US.

Terry

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:


It's working fine for me Eric, today and yesterday - maybe it's a problem at your end?

Phil


On 12 Feb, 2012, at 22:10, Eric Mills wrote:



Hello Phil,

You've probably already found out that the
http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm link has been taken over by 'snog.com' - interesting but a bit too modern for me.

In friendship,
Eric.

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> I forgot the link to the section of the site, although I'm sure you'd have managed to find it! http://www.pepysdiary.com/letters/
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> > I’ve just added a new section to the site, for letters to and from Samuel Pepys. It currently lists a selection of letters between Pepys and the era’s other major diarist, John Evelyn.
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> > These letters, along with their footnotes, are taken from Guy de la Bédoyère’s website <http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm> with his kind permission. That site has been linked to at relevant points during the diary, but it seems a good idea to have them all on this site too, with links to all the Encyclopedia references.
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#1108 From: Susan Thomas <susan.thomas@...>
Date: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Site News: Family Tree updated
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Thanks for all your meticulous attention to detail, Phil!

On 14 February 2012 04:46, Phil Gyford <lists@...> wrote:
 

http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/13/13385.php

Site News: Family Tree updated

In case you like to keep an updated version of the Pepys Family Tree <http://www.pepysdiary.com/background/familytree/> to hand, I've just made a couple of small updates to it. I've added Babs and Betty, daughters of Roger Pepys, and his new wife, Esther (all over on the far right). I've also added Elizabeth Pickering's 1668 marriage to John Creed, which had gone unrecorded.

As ever, let me know if you have any corrections or additions for it.

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#1109 From: Eric Mills <ericmills1936@...>
Date: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:27 pm
Subject: RE: Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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Hello Phil,
Yes the link is working for me too ... perhaps it was a pre-valentine day advert that temporarily took over my machine (Joke).

In friendship,
Eric.

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Today is a Gift - which is why it is called the Present.
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From: lists@...
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:11:04 +0000
Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site

 
It's working fine for me Eric, today and yesterday - maybe it's a problem at your end?

Phil


On 12 Feb, 2012, at 22:10, Eric Mills wrote:



Hello Phil,

You've probably already found out that the
http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm link has been taken over by 'snog.com' - interesting but a bit too modern for me.

In friendship,
Eric.

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> Subject: Re: [pepysdiary] Site News: Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
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> I forgot the link to the section of the site, although I'm sure you'd have managed to find it! http://www.pepysdiary.com/letters/
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> On 10 Feb, 2012, at 14:17, Phil Gyford wrote:
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> > Letters between Pepys and Evelyn on the site
> > http://www.pepysdiary.com/about/archive/2012/02/10/13340.php
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> > I’ve just added a new section to the site, for letters to and from Samuel Pepys. It currently lists a selection of letters between Pepys and the era’s other major diarist, John Evelyn.
> > 
> > These letters, along with their footnotes, are taken from Guy de la Bédoyère’s website <http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Pepyseve.htm> with his kind permission. That site has been linked to at relevant points during the diary, but it seems a good idea to have them all on this site too, with links to all the Encyclopedia references.
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> > 
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#1110 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:14 am
Subject: Early Science: An Historical Perspective
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Early Science: An Historical Perspective

Gresham College posted
Thursday, 25 November 2010
Wadham College, Oxford

A Symposium to mark the 350th anniversary of The Royal Society,
examining the early days of Wadham College, Gresham College and The
Royal Society, together with the life and work of some of the founders
of The Royal Society.

Videos of all presentations can be viewed online --- YouTube format.


This first part of the conference includes the following talks and musical performance:

        Welcome and introduction by Professor Connell
        The Early Days of Gresham College by Professor Robin Wilson
        Wadham College by Dr Allan Chapman
        The setting up of The Royal Society by Professor Michael Hunter
        Music from the Samuel Pepys Collection *


http://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/early-science-an-historical-perspective-part-1

This second part of the conference includes the following talks:

        Being Economical with the Truth - A Civic Virtue: Robert Hooke, Early Science and Surveying
           by Professor Michael Cooper
        Sir Christopher Wren and Wadham by Professor Lisa Jardine
        Early Mathematical Instruments by Dr Jim Bennett

http://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/early-science-an-historical-perspective-part-2


* Thanks to Robert Gertz for posting this on Facebook, which led me to the others.

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#1111 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:58 pm
Subject: New Clues Emerge in Centuries-Old Swedish Shipwreck
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In 1628, the Swedish warship Vasa sank on its maiden voyage. Over the centuries, many have tried to explain what caused that embarrassing and deadly mishap.

Researchers in Stockholm have now conducted a detailed examination of the 17th-century vessel, and they’ve found new clues as to why it sank.

The ship is on display at Stockholm’s Vasa Museum, one of Sweden’s most popular tourist destinations.

Step inside and you’re greeted by a breathtaking sight – the bow of a nearly four hundred year-old wooden warship. It looks like something out of the movie “Pirates of the Caribbean.”

“It’s like a piece of art,” says Susanna Valleros, a guide at the museum. The ship, especially its stern, is covered with wooden sculptures.

“They’re very beautiful, of course, but the main use of them was to tell us things about the royal family, the king,” says Valleros.

The King of Sweden at the time was Gustav II Adolf, the man who ordered the building of the ship.

Today, at least a million people visit the museum every year, but Valleros says what draws visitors is more than just the beauty of the ship. “The story is also quite special and tragic.”

Vasa set sail on her maiden voyage on August 10, 1628. At the time, she was the most powerfully armed warship in the world, with 64 bronze cannons.

Twenty minutes into her journey, the ship was hit by two strong winds. It heeled to port, water gushed in, and the ship sank less than a mile into the journey. Thirty people died.

[ The inquest ] http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/vasa-shipwreck-new-clues/


#1112 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:20 pm
Subject: Is There an Edge to the Heavens?
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http://www.radiolab.org/2012/feb/20/edge-heavens/

Edward Dolnick tells an escape story involving God, humanity, and a huge rewrite of cosmic laws. It began in 1665. A plague hit Cambridge University. All of the students were sent home. One of them is a twenty-something Isaac Newton, who spent his forced summer vacation solving "the problem of the moon" and explaining why that heavenly rock will never be free. 

Sucks for the moon. But Newton's mental leap ultimately lead to humanity leaving the confines of planet Earth. And as producer Lynn Levy explains, we're about to reach yet another new frontier. The Voyager probe (which we talked about in our Space episode) is about to become the first human-made object to leave the solar system. And the information it's been sending us along the way has upended what we thought we knew about our little corner of the universe. Merav Opher is an astronomy professor at BU and a Voyager guest investigator. Ann Druyan is one of the creators of the 1977 Golden Album traveling on the Voyager probe. Together they describe how Voyager continues to surprise us.

The Clockwork Universe: Isaac Newton, the Royal Society, and the Birth of the Modern World

Slideshow of Voyager Images


#1113 From: terry foreman <terry.foreman@...>
Date: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:40 pm
Subject: Spinoza’s Vision of Freedom, and Ours By STEVEN NADLER
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Baruch Spinoza, the 17th-century Dutch thinker, may be among the more enigmatic (and mythologized) philosophers in Western thought, but he also remains one of the most relevant, to his time and to ours. He was an eloquent proponent of a secular, democratic society, and was the strongest advocate for freedom and tolerance in the early modern period. The ultimate goal of his “Theological-Political Treatise” — published anonymously to great alarm in 1670, when it was called by one of its many critics “a book forged in hell by the devil himself”— is enshrined both in the book’s subtitle and in the argument of its final chapter: to show that the “freedom of philosophizing” not only can be granted “without detriment to public peace, to piety, and to the right of the sovereign, but also that it must be granted if these are to be preserved.”

Spinoza was incited to write the “Treatise” when he recognized that the Dutch Republic, and his own province of Holland in particular, was wavering from its uncommonly liberal and relatively tolerant traditions. He feared that with the rising political influence in the 1660s of the more orthodox and narrow-minded elements in the Dutch Reformed Church, and the willingness of civil authorities to placate the preachers by acting against works they deemed “irreligious,” “licentious” and “subversive,” the nearly two decades-long period of the “True Freedom” was coming to an end. The “Treatise” is both a personally angry book — a friend of Spinoza’s, the author of a radical treatise, had recently been thrown in prison, where he soon died — and a very public plea to the Dutch republic not to betray the political, legal and religious principles that made its flourishing possible.

[ The rest ]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/spinozas-vision-of-freedom-and-ours/?hp


"The treatise was published anonymously in 1670 by Jan Rieuwertsz in Amsterdam. In order to protect the author and publisher from political retribution, the title page identified the city of publication as Hamburg and the publisher as Henricus Kunraht. It was written in New Latin rather than the vernacular Dutch in an attempt to avoid censorship by the secular Dutch authorities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Theologico-Politicus#Publication_history

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