Hello,

Find someone with a metal lathe. Preferably a model engineer. At least someone
with the knowledge/experience to use the lathe and to do some reasonably precise
work with his of her machine. They are not that difficult to find. Explain what
it is you want exactly and soon you won't be in need for a good set of bushings
anymore. For little of no cost. Probably.
Mike


--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, McGill Dennis <dlmcgill55@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't had any problems with PS bushings, but when I order by mail it takes
almost a month to get the order. Won't be ordering from them any more.
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Dave wrote:
>
>
> I've not had any problems with bushings from PSI.  If I don't have the right
bushing size I just use the standard 7mm slimline bushings and measure the pen
part ends with a digital caliper and turn to that measurement.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> One good turn deserves another.
>
>
>
> From: penturners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:penturners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of RP
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:12 AM
> To: penturners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [penturners] Re: Illusion info
>
>
>
>
>
> Don:
>
>     I am still trying to learn to make the normal kits without much luck. John
at Penturners has been helping me out quite a bit but this last order from PSI
really has me ticked off.
>
>     I ordered a couple different kit assortments and they also sent the
bushings with them, but the play from the mandrel to the bushing and the bushing
to the tube when added up is somewhere between a 1/32" to 1/16". I don't know
how they expect you to turn anything round with that lousy fit.
>
>      Like I said John had a couple bushing sets to turn on center but I have a
bunch that I guess I will have to try to just turn on centers without bushings
and see what happens.
>
>     PSI sold me my complete set up to get started in this hobby and now the
crap they are selling me is about to make me quit. I am going to leave some
feedback later today on their website but I don't imagine it will cause them to
sell better bushing kits as like most companies nowadays they are just in it for
the quick buck.
>     I remember a time when no one would have sold this poor of an item to
their customers.
>
> Randy
>
>
>
>
> Please remove any email address's before forwarding this email as they may be
used in email scams or phishing.
>
>
> On 3/8/2013 10:37 PM, Its_virgil wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Randy. It is fun pen to make and use. I hope we see one from you soon!
> Do a good turn daily!
> Don
>
>
> --- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, RP <rpedersen01@> wrote:
>
> Don:
>
>      Very nice pen idea and write up thank you.
> Randy
>

To join the thread;  Randy;  It is possible to make bushings on your
wood turning lathe from corian or scraps of pr.  A collet chuck with a
full set of collets will allow you to make good accuracy bushings.  You
will also need accurate calipers or micrometer.

John Goodin makes high quality between-centers bushings.  Did I mention
high quality?
http://www.penturnersproducts.com/

Contact PSI and ask for replacement.




Later....       Randy S
Practice random kindness and commit senseless acts of beauty.





On 3/9/2013 7:12 AM, RP wrote:

>      I ordered a couple different kit assortments and they also sent the
> bushings with them, but the play from the mandrel to the bushing and the
> bushing to the tube when added up is somewhere between a 1/32" to 1/16".
> I don't know how they expect you to turn anything round with that lousy
> fit.

On 3/9/2013 4:32 PM, Randy Smith wrote:
> On 3/9/2013 7:12 AM, RP wrote:
>
>> >      I ordered a couple different kit assortments and they also sent the
>> >bushings with them, but the play from the mandrel to the bushing and the
>> >bushing to the tube when added up is somewhere between a 1/32" to 1/16".
>> >I don't know how they expect you to turn anything round with that lousy
>> >fit.
   so they sent 8mm bushings maybe instead of 7.. ???

 

Don:

    I am still trying to learn to make the normal kits without much luck. John at Penturners has been helping me out quite a bit but this last order from PSI really has me ticked off.

    I ordered a couple different kit assortments and they also sent the bushings with them, but the play from the mandrel to the bushing and the bushing to the tube when added up is somewhere between a 1/32" to 1/16". I don't know how they expect you to turn anything round with that lousy fit.

     Like I said John had a couple bushing sets to turn on center but I have a bunch that I guess I will have to try to just turn on centers without bushings and see what happens.

    PSI sold me my complete set up to get started in this hobby and now the crap they are selling me is about to make me quit. I am going to leave some feedback later today on their website but I don't imagine it will cause them to sell better bushing kits as like most companies nowadays they are just in it for the quick buck.
    I remember a time when no one would have sold this poor of an item to their customers. 

Randy

Please remove any email address's before forwarding this email as they may be used in email scams or phishing.

On 3/8/2013 10:37 PM, Its_virgil wrote:

Thanks Randy. It is fun pen to make and use. I hope we see one from you soon!
Do a good turn daily!
Don
--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, RP <rpedersen01@...> wrote:

Don:
Very nice pen idea and write up thank you. Randy

-- Best regards,
Rich
================================
Richard Kleinhenz - moderator
http://beautifulhandmadepens.com
================================

Exotic Blanks is now another good source of kits, bushings etc. Lots of good
stuff.

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, Rich Kleinhenz <rlkl@...> wrote:
>
> There is something else wrong here.  There's just no way that there
> could be more than 1/32" play in the blank (brass tube to bushing plus
> bushing to mandrel).  No way.  You either got bushings mixed up, or an
> incorrect set.  If the parts are all the right ones then something
> slipped by quality control.  Of course quality inspections are on a
> sample, if they did 100% inspection you wouldn't buy from them
> (cost...).  Perhaps a bent mandrel is coming into play also. Anyway,
> something is grossly out of whack!
>
> Have you called PSI?  I've questioned their engineering at times.  I do
> buy from them, and when I've had problems (which unfortunately I have)
> with some of their items they have always eventually fixed the issue,
> replaced the part or issued credit.
>
> Of course there *ARE* other suppliers out there.  With the variety of
> kits on the market today you are hardly stuck with PSI.  If you want
> another Pennsylvania supplier, check out arizonasilhouette.com.  Craft
> Supplies USA gets high marks for quality as well as customer service.
> Berea Hardwoods is another direct importer/supplier.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On 3/9/2013 7:12 AM, RP wrote:
> >
> > Don:
> >
> >     I am still trying to learn to make the normal kits without much
> > luck. John at Penturners has been helping me out quite a bit but this
> > last order from PSI really has me ticked off.
> >
> >     I ordered a couple different kit assortments and they also sent
> > the bushings with them, but the play from the mandrel to the bushing
> > and the bushing to the tube when added up is somewhere between a 1/32"
> > to 1/16". I don't know how they expect you to turn anything round with
> > that lousy fit.
> >
> >      Like I said John had a couple bushing sets to turn on center but
> > I have a bunch that I guess I will have to try to just turn on centers
> > without bushings and see what happens.
> >
> >     PSI sold me my complete set up to get started in this hobby and
> > now the crap they are selling me is about to make me quit. I am going
> > to leave some feedback later today on their website but I don't
> > imagine it will cause them to sell better bushing kits as like most
> > companies nowadays they are just in it for the quick buck.
> >     I remember a time when no one would have sold this poor of an item
> > to their customers.
> >
> > Randy
> > *
> >
> >
> > Please remove any email address's before forwarding this email as they
> > may be used in email scams or phishing.
> >
> >
> > *
> > On 3/8/2013 10:37 PM, Its_virgil wrote:
> >> Thanks Randy. It is fun pen to make and use. I hope we see one from you
soon!
> >> Do a good turn daily!
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Inpenturners@yahoogroups.com, RP<rpedersen01@>  wrote:
> >>> Don:
> >>>
> >>>       Very nice pen idea and write up thank you.
> >>> Randy
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Rich
> ================================
> Richard Kleinhenz - moderator
> http://beautifulhandmadepens.com
> ================================
>

Having the tailpiece and/or the nut too tight will also give you problems with
out of round. Just snugged up works best for me and I turn up the rpms a bit.
Loosening the piece before turning it all the way down and rotating a quarter
turn or so also helps. Still doesn't address the problem of loose bushings.
Never actually had that. Just undersized ones.

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, rodkeen@... wrote:
>
> I don't know if you are talking about out of round,wobble,or an actual
difference in the size of the bushings.  However, I know that I was having
difficulty with wobble and out of round, thinking it was the mandrel, bushings,
or whatever, when a fellow turner pointed out that I needed to bring my tail
piece out of the casing about an inch in order to seat the mandrel or bushing
properly.  I felt stupid when he pointed it out, but it sure has made a
difference.
> Rod
>

To join the thread; Randy; It is possible to make bushings on your wood turning lathe from corian or scraps of pr. A collet chuck with a full set of collets will allow you to make good accuracy bushings. You will also need accurate calipers or micrometer.
John Goodin makes high quality between-centers bushings. Did I mention high quality?
http://www.penturnersproducts.com/
Contact PSI and ask for replacement.
Later.... Randy S
Practice random kindness and commit senseless acts of beauty.
On 3/9/2013 7:12 AM, RP wrote:

 I ordered a couple different kit assortments and they also sent the
bushings with them, but the play from the mandrel to the bushing and the
bushing to the tube when added up is somewhere between a 1/32" to 1/16".
I don't know how they expect you to turn anything round with that lousy
fit.

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I am a new member of this group and would like to say hello to everyone and
introduce myself. My name is Anthony, I live in upstate NY, and I am a member if
the NWA and AWA (northeast woodworkers association and adirondack wood turners
association). I am fairly new to turning but I am obsessed! I am excited to
share and learn new things with everyone. Cheers!

Welcome! Lots of friendly people here, and lots of knowledge to share.

Regards,
Steve
http://www.pen-blanks.us

We are headed down to Ruidoso on the 23rd for a week, wandering if there are any
pen turners in the area. I'm coming from northern Wisconsin and could bring some
maple. apple, black ash and spalted birch blanks.

 

I was checking out Glen's photos that he recently posted and saw the hybrid cigar pen. (Pen looks nice, btw!). Looking at it, I'm trying to figure out what makes it a hybrid? Is this a new style of cigar pen that is out?

--
Regards,
-Steve
http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com

-- Best regards,
Rich
================================
Richard Kleinhenz - moderator
http://beautifulhandmadepens.com
================================

According to Exotic Blanks, it is called a hybrid because the black enamel
accents have been replaced with other materials -- platinum, gold ti, satin
chrome -- and  Black Titanium or Bright Chrome platings.  Berea makes one
variety while others amy use other platings and/or accent materials.

Check out:
http://www.exoticblanks.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.\
tpl&product_id=3359&category_id=173&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=60


Cheers,

jpw

has anyone bought the HF strip sander, and if so, do you recommend it, and if not, why?  I'm considering getting one to use to hone my tools with.  At $39 it seems like it would be a "No Brainer".   Thanks for your input   Steve in MO

__._,_

 

On 3/15/2013 4:22 PM, Stephen Robinson wrote:

has anyone bought the HF strip sander, and if so, do you recommend it, and if not, why?  I'm considering getting one to use to hone my tools with.  At $39 it seems like it would be a "No Brainer".   Thanks for your input   Steve in MO

__._,_

the 1 by 30" belt?  never tried grinding tool edges YET, gotta move it away from the dust first, but, to me, and it could be ME, its a tad noisy.. otherwise, runs and tracks pretty good.

Steve,

Thanks for the positive comments on my pens.

Glen Schumann

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bigelow <sbig333@...> wrote:
>
> I was checking out Glen's photos that he recently posted and saw the hybrid
> cigar pen. (Pen looks nice, btw!). Looking at it, I'm trying to figure out
> what makes it a hybrid? Is this a new style of cigar pen that is out?
>
> --
> Regards,
> -Steve
> http://woodworking.bigelowsite.com
>

 

Welcome Anthony,

I am a bit south of you in New Windsor NY (Mid Hudson Valley). I am envious that you have clubs up by you. Here in the "desert" there aren't any clubs and several attempts to start one have failed.

Doc

Doc Wiseman KC2SYP
41' 49".15 N 74' 08" .24 W
I'm not a Pyrate, I'm an Independent maritime property re-distribution specialist.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Two sets of cigar blanks and two sets of jr vII blanks I made last
weekl. I just thought some would enjoy seeing them.
Do a good turn daily!
Don