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Dennis W. Ewing Sr.
http://onewoodturn.com

 

   I am going to take a shot at doing a craft show in September. I would like to know from some of you that have done church shows, about how many pens should I have with me and what type sells best at these shows,(I'm thinking wasp-waist type slim line).

Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
patrick36@...
www.pensbypat.com
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Must down size....must sell all woodturning equipment and supplies. Everything
from lathes to wood and supplies. Do to size and amount cannot ship must be
picked up in Las Vegas, Nevada.
If interested Email me off list at joehill7@... for list and price.
thanks joe

just an fyi to using Aniline dyes, you mix them in alcohol to dye woods not
water. and oh my god when they say permanent dye it is an understatement. I live
5 minutes from  comar a company who makes a corian material. I get pieces for
pens and also make pot pads to give away at Christmas. well i got some of the 
Aniline dye on one of my pot pads and it still will not come off. I use it in
the shop to mix stuff on since it can be cleaned so easily, but the only way I
am gonna get the dye off it is to sand it.

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, Xoxox Xoxox <joatm@...> wrote:
>
> Just getting caught up and thought I would and some more info. Looking for
coloring to tint epoxies and resins. The real stuff comes in kits and assorted
colors both in transparent and opaque. That being said a little does go a long
way, and the depth of color is adjusted by the amount of color you add.
> Traditional whiting agent is gypsum powder same stuff that makes Gesso.  You
can used marble powder also. Aniline dyes or intense mixing colors. Like these
at http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=20082&cat=1,190,42942 Or a lot
of other wood working suppliers.
>
> Online big box art suppliers like Dick Blick's will have a host of other
materials that can be added to resins and epoxies. From bronzing powders a
generic names for metal powders of all types. a word of caution on the metal
powders they are like most other extreme fine dusts flammable.
>
> They also have powdered stone and of course an assortment of resins. The other
nice thing about their site they are a great source of information and
technical.
> grp
>

Just an FYI: There is water soluble aniline dye. Not all are mixed with alcohol.
Do a good turn daily!
Don



--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, "william_mcbride_sr" <bill@...> wrote:
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> just an fyi to using Aniline dyes, you mix them in alcohol to dye woods not
water.

if memory servs. they are to mixed with alcohol but can be mixed with water. the
alcohol is to keep the wood from deforming or something like that. it says why
on the bottle.

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, "Its_virgil" <don@...> wrote:
>
> Just an FYI: There is water soluble aniline dye. Not all are mixed with
alcohol.
> Do a good turn daily!
> Don
>
>
>
> --- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, "william_mcbride_sr" <bill@> wrote:
> >
> > just an fyi to using Aniline dyes, you mix them in alcohol to dye woods not
water.
>

I have been turning pens for many years now and I am still amazed that a pen kit
that weighs next to nothing e.g. cigar pen and the blanks that go with it
(anything from acrylic to wood) also seem to weigh very little yet when they are
finished they seem to get very heavy. Has anyone ever done a chart or anything
else that goes to the weight of finished pens? Thanks folks for answering. Joe

Rich,
You say a finished cigar made with stabilized wood weighed 41g. How can it weigh
less that the parts you said weigh 46g?

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, Rich Kleinhenz <rlkl@...> wrote:
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> No chart, but I have been paying attention to pen weight for a long time.  And
I think you are wrong when you say a cigar pen kit weighs next to nothing... 
most of the weight comes indeed from the hardware!  You can influence the weight
to a small effect by not creating extra bulges but keeping the profile
relatively slim.  You can even calculate the weight of a pen, using the specific
weight of wood or whatever material you use, and get VERY close.
>
> I just weighed a few cigar pens.  A cigar pen kit weighs about 46g (including
plastic baggies and refill :-).  A finished cigar pen made out of non-stabilized
wood weighs 49g.  Stabilized wood 41g.  Deer antler, turned a little fuller
profile, 57g.  The lightest stock fountain pen is the original El Grande. 
Variations on the El Grande all weigh a little more as more plastic parts are
replace by metal.
>
> on Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:28:51 -0000, Joseph said
> >
> >
> > I have been turning pens for many years now and I am still amazed
> > that a pen kit that weighs next to nothing e.g. cigar pen and the
> > blanks that go with it (anything from acrylic to wood) also seem to
> > weigh very little yet when they are finished they seem to get very
> > heavy. Has anyone ever done a chart or anything else that goes to
> > the weight of finished pens? Thanks folks for answering. Joe
> >
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> Best regards,
> Rich
> ==========================
> Richard Kleinhenz
> http://beautifulhandmadepens.com
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Sorry Rich, didn't see your correction.

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, "monty_1013" <woodenwonders@...> wrote:
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> Rich,
> You say a finished cigar made with stabilized wood weighed 41g. How can it
weigh less that the parts you said weigh 46g?
>
> --- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, Rich Kleinhenz <rlkl@> wrote:
> >
> > No chart, but I have been paying attention to pen weight for a long time. 
And I think you are wrong when you say a cigar pen kit weighs next to nothing...
most of the weight comes indeed from the hardware!  You can influence the weight
to a small effect by not creating extra bulges but keeping the profile
relatively slim.  You can even calculate the weight of a pen, using the specific
weight of wood or whatever material you use, and get VERY close.
> >
> > I just weighed a few cigar pens.  A cigar pen kit weighs about 46g
(including plastic baggies and refill :-).  A finished cigar pen made out of
non-stabilized wood weighs 49g.  Stabilized wood 41g.  Deer antler, turned a
little fuller profile, 57g.  The lightest stock fountain pen is the original El
Grande.  Variations on the El Grande all weigh a little more as more plastic
parts are replace by metal.
> >
> > on Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:28:51 -0000, Joseph said
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been turning pens for many years now and I am still amazed
> > > that a pen kit that weighs next to nothing e.g. cigar pen and the
> > > blanks that go with it (anything from acrylic to wood) also seem to
> > > weigh very little yet when they are finished they seem to get very
> > > heavy. Has anyone ever done a chart or anything else that goes to
> > > the weight of finished pens? Thanks folks for answering. Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reply to sender |
> > >
> > > Reply to group |
> > > Reply via web post |
> > > Start a New Topic
> > >
> > >
> > > Messages in this topic
> > > (1)
> > >
> > >
> > > Recent Activity:
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Rich
> > ==========================
> > Richard Kleinhenz
> > http://beautifulhandmadepens.com
> > ==========================
> >
>

Just wanted to remind anyone planning to attend the DC Pen Show, that my Summer
Sale is still on, and I will be sharing a booth with Bertram's Inkwell, usually
sets up in the 2nd room, before the main room...usually. I will be bringing with
me Schmidt parts and refills, and my plastic blanks.

If you have never been to the DC Pen Show, it is the largest pen show of its
kind in the world, with usually over 200 vendors. There are a few pen kit
turners who usually attend including Alan Shaw and Barry Gross, but the show is
mainly geared for the new and vintage pen collector. It can be an experience
that can be overwhelming and tiring. There are only a few vendors that have any
kind of supplies, so I have restocked my show inventories from the Miami show,
where plastics were the big seller.

Please stop by and say "Hi" even if you don't need anything.

Richard Greenwald
www.richardlgreenwald.com

My fall long weekend pen classes at Arrowmont for those who might be interested
-

Pen turner, woodturner, or wannabee. Spend the long weekend totally immersed in
penmaking. Learn the key elements of what makes a perfect pen and focus on
techniques that let you achieve perfection of fit and finish. What makes your
work unique? Design, materials, and finishes will make your pens stand out from
the crowd. Fabricate your own components from distinctive materials and take
your pens to a new dimension! All skill levels are welcome – no matter where you
begin, this course will give you the skills to separate your work from the
masses. Course ID: 2011WDT-Nov3

Details at:
http://www.arrowmont.org/workshops/kurt-hertzog/154-total-immersion-in-penmaking

Best,
Kurt

I attended Kurt's class last summer. I came home with lots of new skills that
I didn't think could be accomplished. We had beginners as well as many years
of experience in the class. I felt that everyone learned a great deal.

Arrowmont is located in Gatlinburg, TN at the edge of the Smokey Mountains
National Park.


Steve Hagen
Pocatello Idaho



------ Original Message ------
Received: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 03:28:53 PM PDT
From: ron wehba <rwehba@...>
To: penturners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [penturners] AD - Arrowmont Penmaking Classes in November (3-6)


where is arrowmount at???
ronnie wehba

--- On Tue, 8/9/11, Kurt <groups@...> wrote:


From: Kurt <groups@...>
Subject: [penturners] AD - Arrowmont Penmaking Classes in November (3-6)
To: penturners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 9:25 AM






My fall long weekend pen classes at Arrowmont for those who might be
interested
-

Pen turner, woodturner, or wannabee. Spend the long weekend totally immersed
in
penmaking. Learn the key elements of what makes a perfect pen and focus on
techniques that let you achieve perfection of fit and finish. What makes your
work unique? Design, materials, and finishes will make your pens stand out
from
the crowd. Fabricate your own components from distinctive materials and take
your pens to a new dimension! All skill levels are welcome – no matter where
you
begin, this course will give you the skills to separate your work from the
masses. Course ID: 2011WDT-Nov3

Details at:
http://www.arrowmont.org/workshops/kurt-hertzog/154-total-immersion-in-penmaking

Best,
Kurt

Was wondering if anyone had the instructions for the Euro Filigree Pen from
Craft Supplies.  I have some kits that I would like to make but don't have the
instructions.  I'm sure I would "wing" it but it would be nice to follow some
kind of instructions.

Have fun:
http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/woodturners/Images/pdfs/european_filigree_pen.\
pdf

Do a good turn daily!
Don


--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, "Arvin" <arvincathy@...> wrote:
>
> Was wondering if anyone had the instructions for the Euro Filigree Pen from
Craft Supplies.  I have some kits that I would like to make but don't have the
instructions.  I'm sure I would "wing" it but it would be nice to follow some
kind of instructions.
>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:58:09 -0000, you wrote:

>
>>>>Attention Pen Turners<<<
>
>Hello, Jack from Manzanita Burlwood, "Home of the Better Burl" and do
>
>I Have a Deal for you on overstocked #2 & #3 grade pen turning
>blanksThese pieces are rejected #1 blanks and don't meet the
>
>higher standard #1 blanks require.

I sent you an email on ordering blanks and have not heard back from
you. Not interestede in small orders?

Mark


Di-Mar Imaging & Design
Quality Campground Maps & Brochures
1030 S. Barrel Cactus Ridge Lot 107
Benson, AZ 85602
campmaps@...

Hello Mark,

I apologize for the mix up.  Your email probably ended up in the spam folder and was overlooked and deleted with the others.  This happens to me at times an yahoo is working on the issue.  Please if youre still interested in some blanks send your request email to;       sales@...  and I'll be sure to get it.  Please include quantity of blanks, grade #1, #2, or #3 and your shipping address and we can work it from there.  Sorry again, and I hope to hear from you real soon.  

                                    Best Regards,

                             Jack Dickson   (Manzanita Burlwood)

--- In penturners@yahoogroups.com, Mark <mdtetrault@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:58:09 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >
> >>>>Attention Pen Turners<<<
> >
> >Hello, Jack from Manzanita Burlwood, "Home of the Better Burl" and do
> >
> >I Have a Deal for you on overstocked #2 & #3 grade pen turning
> >blanksThese pieces are rejected #1 blanks and don't meet the
> >
> >higher standard #1 blanks require.
>
> I sent you an email on ordering blanks and have not heard back from
> you. Not interestede in small orders?
>
> Mark
>
>
> Di-Mar Imaging & Design
> Quality Campground Maps & Brochures
> 1030 S. Barrel Cactus Ridge Lot 107
> Benson, AZ 85602
> campmaps@...
>