That is false; when the Lord comes, his saints come with him. That is why I started my explanation with that fact, quoting chapter and verse. But, you go ahead...
I have told you time and again that the rapture is not the same event as the end of the world. But, you refuse to understand, and keep looking to end of the...
I have cited the passages from Paul, and he definitely did NOT believe he would remain in his grave until the coming of Christ. He taught instead of the...
I think the current rapture discussion helps my message 5865. Everybody in the discussion would probably agree that what is written in the Bible is the...
Bob, you said, ... with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. ... the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that...
I feel I should correct myself here and just identify the first resurrection as spiritual faith in Christ. The Catholics accept Augustine, but their view of...
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. One of the basic tenets of preterist belief is that Jesus...
Simply this: The scriptures state that Christ comes with His angels on the Day of the Lord - at the end of this age and no time before. That He brings His...
Excellent piece. I hope one on here reads it and comes to realize his belief is not based on sound scripture. From: e_s_c_h_a_t_o_n Sent: Thursday, January 01,...
The first resurrection is the resurrection of the saints. This happens at Christ's coming to establish his earthly kingdom and begin his 1000 year reign. These...
I believe that if someone accepts Christ they never die, spiritually. 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me,...
Where and when have I ever called Paul a big fat liar? I don't even think he was fat. As far as I can determine, Paul never lied about anything. Show me the...
There is NO rapture. Paul did not teach it. Revelation does not teach it. The Bible does not teach it. Falling away means apostacy - it does not mean "catching...
Bob, you are denying what the scriptures teach on this. The saints are not raised at his coming, as they are with Him when He comes. So that can't possibly be...
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Joh 3:4 Nicodemus...
When the scriptures state that He comes with his saints, this means that his saints were taken up to be with him, prior to that point. That is what the ...
if you all only just be listening to the christ conciousness from with in he who knows can not deny themselves that if you but lend a moment and hear the truth...
The bible is perfectly clear on the future of God's saints. To suggest God can't explain something right and you need other people to interpret it for you, is...
• Origen: But the words spoken by the Saviour shall not pass away, because they effect and shall ever effect their purpose; but the perfect and they that...
There are 10 messages waiting to be posted on the rapture debate, but I think I will hold off on them for right now. There is also some personal criticism of...
New Adam and Jewish Pharisee :: New Eve and Christian Pharisee Hypocrites take the 144,000 literally. In the end, the 144,000 are the fully just, and their...
Okay, I've decided to release the 10 captive messages with a request. Since the rapture debate is one of many since the beginning of the group, and it seems to...
1 Corinthians 15:42 – "So also—So Paul reasons that as we can conceive of harmony and perfection with variety—in the earth—perfect horses, dogs, cattle...
I will believe God's word on it, and not the words of people who don't believe what He said, and foolishly think Jesus said He'd come again within one...
Is the profanity really necessary either? From: jason steen Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:28 AM To: parousia@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Parousia] Re: Can...
You asked me for the scriptures and I gave them; promptly you turn around and say, oh but there is no bodily resurrection, it's all in the spirit, there is no...
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