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Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the
LORD hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not,
nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the
prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


People have all sorts of opinions, but it doesn't really matter. If a prophet
speaks something that doesn't come true then He didn't get it from God. That's
what the Bible says and Jesus says the scriptures can't be broken.

You don't repent from something that is going to happen. You repent from
something that happened. God repented from what He said, which was having Jonah
speak out against Nineveh. Of course He knew He was going to repent ahead of
time or He wouldn't be God. He repented because that was the role he chose.
The God of the Bible knows everything ahead of time. When Moses persuaded God
not to destroy Israel, it was God's will. Just like Jesus knew He was going to
be crucified.

When Jonah spoke out he didn't even mention God. It was the faith of the people
that led them to believe that God was in control. They demonstrated their
faithfulness ahead of time just like God knew they would. If a god doesn't know
something ahead of time then he isn't the God the Bible teaches. It is
impossible that Jonah would have taught something that God said was going to
happen, and it didn't happen. Jonah was just a man, but God doesn't make
mistakes. If God didn't know that Nineveh wouldn't be overthrown and Jonah did,
as he said in 4:2, the Jonah knew more than God. If that is the case then Jonah
should have been God and God should have been the false prophet. That's
ridiculous.



--- In parousia@yahoogroups.com, "johanna_kelton" <johanna_kelton@...> wrote:
>
> A prophet is a human being, not some divine being who never makes a bad
decision, like not going to Nineveh at first as God instructed him. Jonah's
refusal to go didn't go unpunished. As you know, he ended up in the belly of a
whale because he was trying not to have to prophesy to the city. Jonah acted on
behalf of God and was well aware of when destruction (Nineveh being overthrown)
would take place or he wouldn't have said forty days. God obviously informed
him.
>
> Jonah was unhappy that destruction would not come in the time he had
prophesied that it would, making it look to some (most likely the unbelievers
and unrepentent) that he was not a true prophet because his prophecy was no
longer going to occur to the people of that generation (as they were now
repentful and God in His great mercy spared them), although it did happen some
60 years later.
>
> JON 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and
God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he
did it not.
>
> His prophesy brougtht the people of Nineveh to repentence and was the reason
they were spared, so yes, he is a true prophet of God.
>
>
>
> Overthrow: (dictionary.com)
>
> 2. to put an end to by force, as a government or institution.
> 3. to throw or knock down; overturn; topple: The heavy winds overthrew
numerous telephone poles and trees.
> 4. to knock down and demolish.
>
>
>
>





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You can sell tickets to it ... "You can sell tickets to it ...," is a phrase used to assure someone that a certain thing is going to happen or will get done....
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God never told Jonah that Nineveh would be destroyed in 40 days. Therefore, in effect, Jonah was a false prophet. He spoke presumptiously. Deu 18:21 And if...
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I'm shocked that you'd call Jonah a false prophet when he was indeed a prophet of God. It seems like preterism is against prophets in general, and God...
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4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. Jonah prophesied falsely....
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JON 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. JON 3:9 Who...
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Here is what God said to Jonah. 1:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me. 3:2 Arise, go unto...
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A prophet is a human being, not some divine being who never makes a bad decision, like not going to Nineveh at first as God instructed him. Jonah's refusal to...
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Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if...
Alan Fuller
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Alan, Of course you can't believe Jonah, or any other prophet, as your religion of preterism teaches that all prophecy is fulfilled. A big lie. Preterism was...
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Johanna, Is that true? Who are you talking about? Who is the founder of preterism, and where do you get your information?...
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Alan, Earl Paulk is the founder of Dominionism and the Manifest Sons of God movement, a/k/a preterism that's very widespread here in the U.S.  They don't...
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It's all in the Bible, but you have to be a believer in God's Holy Word....
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Use the verse in its context as below. JON 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh...
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God never said He would destroy them in the Bible. He told Jonah to cry against them because their evil had come up before Him. Basically, that is the evil...
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