Here is a list of books I complied for my work:
http://plymouthlibrary.org/jhighLevel.htm
http://plymouthlibrary.org/jhighLevel3.htm

High reading level with appropriate content.  :)
Suzy

--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, Karen Luba <klipluba@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone.  I have a dd who will be 4 at the end of October.  She has been
reading for several months now, and I would estimate her to be reading at a late
first/early 2nd grade level.  She reads everything she can get her hands on. 
Books, boxes, notes, newsletters, etc.  I am thrilled, but then I got thinking-
what will she do in about a year, when she will be ready for chapter books?  I
want her to keep reading- she obviously loves it, and always has been fascinated
with letters and words.  But, most middle elementary chapter books are about-
well, middle elementary children. My dd is only in her first year of preschool
(she is old for her grade due to the October birthday.  She won't be in
kindergarten for two more years.)
>
> I have two questions for the group:
>
> 1.  What book titles/series have you found your advanced reading children to
enjoy reading?
>
> 2.  I enjoy writing, and wondered about perhaps trying to write a children's
chapter book that would interest children like my dd while still appealing to
the middle grade kids that would mainly be ready for it.  If I were to do this,
what topics/ideas do you think your child would personally be interested in
(imagine your child to be a kindergartener reading at a 3rd or 4th grade level).
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Karen
>
>
>
>
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>

I am sorry you and your family are going thru this. Divorce is such a
hardship on everyone. I myself have pg gifted children and have also been
divorced.

Their father does not understand the complexities of their giftedness and
fights me tooth and nail on many issues especially with regard to their
education.

He wants them just to be mainstream and they aren't even close.



It does not take a high IQ to raise intellectually gifted children. It does
take love, patience, and creativity which it sounds like you have. Your wife
is going thru a very difficult time and I pray that she gets some counseling
and support. I hope that both of you can find some way to work together to
raise your children whether together or apart.



I do think it is extremely important to recognize that children need and
have a right to spend time with both parents. Children have amazing capacity
for love and will come to recognize their mothers weaknesses and love her
regardless. Just as any parent does for their children.



You can put certain provisions in the custody arrangements for example you
could ask for full education rights, and or extra curricular rights. That
would give you the right to trump her wishes with regard to their extra
curricular activities and their education, while still allowing your wife to
have an active role in their lives.



My ex is not a good role model. He is negative, find fault with nearly
everything, doesn't bathe them, etc and feeds them junk food. But!! He is
their father, they love him and I have accepted that they need to have a
relationship with him. They don't like for his visitations most of the time,
especially the 1st year or 2, but they go anyway. Over time they have built
and relationship that works for them.



My advice after having been thru all this, do as much as you can to preserve
your family relationship so that you can work together for the good of the
children. Come to terms with your differences and pick your battles
carefully.







I

   _____

From: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard A
Clapp Jr
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:19 AM
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Parenting Gifted Children] Has anyone been in a divorce where one
parent is gifted and the other a norm and kids custody is an issue?





Good Day,

I am soon to be entangled in a divorce, that I expect to get vicious. The
background: The mother is a norm. My IQ and those of our two preschoolers
are well above it. The boy wants nothing to do with her ( he is 5.5) and
our young lady in training, is 4 and loves us both but is completely a
Daddy's girl. They behave completely for me, I understand them and work
with it. She fights them tooth and nail. The mother is also fourth
generation Child Abuse victim. She has periods where her anger takes over
rather than her brain. She is on Zoloft. This community, where we live,
is a combination of Yuppy and Farming. We are in Central Ohio. I am in a
Bankruptcy, chapter 7. So financial costs must be a factor. At the
moment, she is living virtual on facebook ( 2 farms, a cafe and a virtual
hotel) more than living in this world. She gets out of bed normally about
11am to noon, then heads straight for the computer. she attempted suicide
at least once in her past and is a part of her medical records. (found out
much of this after we were married..)

My question is this: How do I protect the little ones? I want FULL custody
and am willing to fight for it, but have little money for a long drawn out
legal battle, unless I am doing it myself.. She will not nurture them, I
have been the primary nurturing figure in their lives since day one - she
does not even check on them at night to make sure they are all tucked in and
sleeping fine before going to bed. Her bedside manner is worse than Attila
the Hun's. ( There is little exaggeration on that one). For them to
thrive, they need to be with me. She treats them as possessions. "I gave
birth to them, so they are mine..." Has anyone else on this list been in a
similar situation and have any tips for me how to proceed. In most courts
in Central Ohio, the Dad is badly discriminated against in custody battles.
Is there any documentation showing that the Gifted parent is the better
parent to raise gifted kids in a Divorce?

At the current rate of marriage deterioration progression, I would place the
beginning of legal proceedings to be 2-3 months out.

Rick





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Good Day,

I am soon to be entangled in a divorce, that I expect to get vicious.  The
background: The mother is a norm.  My IQ and those of our two preschoolers
are well above it.  The boy wants nothing to do with her ( he is 5.5) and
our young lady in training, is 4 and loves us both but is completely a
Daddy's girl.  They behave completely for me, I understand them and work
with it.  She fights them tooth and nail.  The mother is also fourth
generation Child Abuse victim.  She has periods where her anger takes over
rather than her brain.  She is on Zoloft.  This community, where we live,
is a combination of Yuppy and Farming.  We are in Central Ohio.  I am in a
Bankruptcy, chapter 7.   So financial costs must be a factor.  At the
moment, she is living virtual on facebook ( 2 farms, a cafe and a virtual
hotel) more than living in this world.  She gets out of bed normally about
11am to noon, then heads straight for the computer.  she attempted suicide
at least once in her past and is a part of her medical records.  (found out
much of this after we were married..)

My question is this: How do I protect the little ones?  I want FULL custody
and am willing to fight for it, but have little money for a long drawn out
legal battle, unless I am doing it myself..  She will not nurture them, I
have been the primary nurturing figure in their lives since day one - she
does not even check on them at night to make sure they are all tucked in and
sleeping fine before going to bed.  Her bedside manner is worse than Attila
the Hun's.  ( There is little exaggeration on that one).  For them to
thrive, they need to be with me.  She treats them as possessions.  "I gave
birth to them, so they are mine..."  Has anyone else on this list been in a
similar situation and have any tips for me how to proceed.  In most courts
in Central Ohio, the Dad is badly discriminated against in custody battles.
Is there any documentation showing that the Gifted parent is the better
parent to raise gifted kids in a Divorce?

At the current rate of marriage deterioration progression, I would place the
beginning of legal proceedings to be 2-3 months out.

Rick

Hi everyone!
  My name is Erin and I'm the single-mommy of Kaitlyn who is 4 and a half. I'm
looking for ideas as well as support for my kind of newly "diagnosed" gifted
child. I also wanted a place to be able to talk about Kaitlyn's accomplishments
where it doesn't sound too much like bragging! I look forward to "meeting" all
of you!

Erin

I could have written your post a few years ago. My son is now 7 but when he was
the age your daughter is, well...look out world! I can remember being awake all
night stressing out his behavior, worrying that there were things we were
missing (ASD or something else), worrying that he would be a social outcast. 
His ped kept telling me that he was gifted and that his behaviors were likely
due to issues stemming from the giftedness. She referred us to a pediatric
psych. The ped psych told us the same exact thing only in more detail: no ASD,
no ADHD/ADD, no issues other than a high IQ and the negative behaviors that
sometimes accompany it. He suggested several books, including "Raising Your
Spirited Child" and some on giftedness. One thing that has helped us a lot is
more structure in daily life. Another thing that has made a huge difference is
time. Maturing a bit has helped tremendously.

When he was between 4-5 years we really worked on what was appropriate socially
and teaching him to think before he acted. We really had to learn new ways of
teaching him certain things and new ways to handle certain situations. My son
had the most trouble with kids his own age and younger but did very well with
older kids. He had some trouble in kindergarten - bumping kids in line, pushing,
that sort of thing. But his teacher assured me that his behavior wasn't anything
out of the ordinary and he learned quickly that there were consequences to his
actions. Seeing other kids get in trouble for the same behaviors also helped
because he didn't feel singled out - he saw that the behavior itself was
unacceptable.

Today he does very, very well in school and in sports. His second grade teacher
told me that he is a class leader and the other kids look up to him and want to
be around him. He is very athletic and kids like having him on their team.
Honestly, I never, ever would have pictured it a few years ago. He still has his
days but it is vastly different than when he was PS age.

Feel free to email me if you'd like more info about our experience.

-kel






________________________________
From: Amy P <bluehat.greenhat@...>
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 11:08:09 PM
Subject: [Parenting Gifted Children] Gifted with behavioral issues


Hi.

I just joined the group and I'm hoping to get some advice on how to approach the
issues we're having with our almost 4 1/2 year old daughter...

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Krista,
Oh, I forgot about the Lightning Thief! He read that series earlier this year
right around his 9th birthday. He absolutely loved the first book, was
disappointed by the 2nd and I believe liked the 3rd one as well. However, he
decided to take a break on the 4th one and is waiting to read that one later.
Sometimes, he speeds through the books so fast that I think he gets kind of sick
of them. That happened with the Warrior series. He read through the first series
in about a week, and then when he got the 2nd one (you know how they have
subseries in that set? I don't even know all their names), he read 2 of them and
then went on a 'break'. But he sped through the Seekers and loved them all, and
re-reads them as well.
He absolutely loved "School of Fear" and keeps re-reading it, now using it for
his reading log at school.
I need to get him Lord of the Rings  series -- I think he'd really like them.
The Pseudonym Bosch books are really funny -- I started one of them and thought
they were clever as well...
Diane





-----Original Message-----
From: Krista Claassen <kclaassen@...>
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2009 9:04 am
Subject: RE: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re:  Books for advanced readers





My gifted reader has loved the Warriors series.  He’s read them all numerous
times.  He also read Inkheart (and the other two books in that series) over and
over –he may be on his second copy of them!  He’s 12 now, and reading The
Lightning Thief books.  He read The Lord of the Rings a few years ago when he
wanted to see the movies --- I made him read the books first.  J   Honestly, I
cannot keep up with what he reads.  I stopped “approving” his books long
ago, when I realized that he really wasn’t interested in reading books I
deemed inappropriate anyhow.  J  He did read the Twilight series, and enjoyed
them.

My non-gifted reader (age 10) has loved the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series.   He
also likes graphic novels, and had devoured the Bone books.

Neither of my kids liked the Lemony Snicket books.  We haven’t tried the 39
Clues yet – might be good for my younger one though.

Krista

From: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
felicitygirl22@...
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:25 PM
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers

My son has enjoyed the Warrior and Seeker series this year. He loved the Lemony
Snicket series, the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series and the 39 Clues books. He's
also enjoyed Fergus Crane, the School of Fear & the Golden Grey series. He's now
9 and likewise finished the Harry Potter's at 7.
Recently, he also really loved the Pseudonym Bosch books & the Narnia series. I
let him read Twilight and New Moon because he likes the vampire/werewolf stuff,
but doesn't seem too interested in the love story. I'd say anything younger than
9/10 would probably be too young content-wise for Twilight (although not
language-wise since the books are written so simplistically).
Diane

-----Original Message-----
From: kd <gabrieljosephsmom@... <mailto:gabrieljosephsmom%40yahoo.com> >
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:44 am
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers

My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry Potter
books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle to find
things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original Nancy
Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It can
definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high lexile
level.
-kel

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If kids like the magic/fantasy aspect of Harry Potter, try:

Artemis Fowl - (great series - I even read it all to myself!  Has fairies AND a
genius kid)
Redwall - A must for a kid who needs a reading challenge, but appropriate
content.
Ranger's Apprentice series
Gregor and the Overlander - Suzanne Collins (series - GREAT, GREAT books)
Percy Jackson series - by Rick Riordan (lots of action and Greek gods)

-Margie

--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, Laura Parsons <loradora10@...>
wrote:
>
> have you read the Narnia series?
> Laura
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:14 AM, kd <gabrieljosephsmom@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry
> > Potter books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle
> > to find things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
> > When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original
> > Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It
> > can definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high
> > lexile level.
> > -kel
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> www.giftedchildren.webs.com
> Fun & challenging activities for Gifted Children
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

A MUST read, if you haven't is "The Mislabeled Child" by Drs. Brock and Fernette
Eide.

I overlooked it for a while, as my child hasn't been diagnosed with anything but
Sensory Processing Disorder, but it's great for understanding gifted kids and
their behaviors and the difference between what looks like ADHD or Aspergers,
but is just a result of giftedness (and also to recognize when they really do
have BOTH giftedness AND a neurological diagnosis).

I homeschool, so I escaped without having my child put into situations where his
behavior would most DEFINITELY deteriorated.

The book also has sections on learning disabilities (2e kids), but you can pick
and choose the chapters that apply to your situation.

It's the first thing I've ever read that desribed MY child almost exactly.  The
Drs. also have a clinic and a blog - http://eideneurolearningblog.blogspot.com 
(sorry, can't figure out how to make this a link)

-Margie

--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Amnesty" <amnestyb@...> wrote:
>
> I'd see the psychologist now. We waited with my son, and I wish we hadn't.
He's 6 now and just finished his psychological testing last week. We find out
the results next week. He's already been diagnosed with ADHD (that was kind of a
no-brainer, lol), but he was being assessed for possible Asperger's Syndrome.
The psychologist said there's no question that his IQ is very high, but some of
the scores on his other tests (like pragmatic language, social interactions, and
play skills) were probably going to be lower, and it's the discrepancy between
test scores that determines diagnostic criteria.
>
> --- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, Brandi Durocher <funwith4@>
wrote:
> >
> > A psychologist won't hurt but you have to be prepared that they might
> > try and dx adhd or something, if you aren't ready for that I'd wait

> On 12/8/09, Amy P <bluehat.greenhat@> wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > I just joined the group and I'm hoping to get some advice on how to
approach
> > > the issues we're having with our almost 4 1/2 year old daughter. She has
not
> > > been tested ( we'd like to wait until she's older�when the tests�are
more
> > > reliable) but we, along with her pediatrician and teachers, believe she is
> > > highly gifted. Some things we've observed: she knew her letters�at 16
months
> > > old and was reading at 2 1/2. She is currently reading at a 3rd grade
level.
> > > She has a great memory and learns songs (to sing and to play on the piano)
> > > really fast.
>

I am loving these suggestions, thanks!
As I said, my 7 y.o. finished the HP series and is looking for something else.
He's read the Narnia books, Inkheart, Edge Chronicles (he wasn't a big fan of
those), Carl Sagan's Contact, things like that. He really wants to read the
Twilight series. Someone suggested the Xanth books so he is looking for them at
the library today.Right now he is rereading Narnia as well as a book about the
history of hockey. We are always looking for book suggestions - it can be a real
struggle to find things he likes, especially at his school library. His teacher
and the librarian try to be helpful but they are somewhat at a loss.
-kel




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it seems like a lot of the kids have read the same things, my daughter also
did the seeker series and the lightning thief books years ago, shes 13 now
though and Id never be able to keep up with what she reads as she checks a
lot of books out of the school library and some weeks reads 3 large books in
a week, too fast for me to keep up

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Krista Claassen
<kclaassen@...>wrote:

>
>
> My gifted reader has loved the Warriors series. He�s read them all numerous
> times. He also read Inkheart (and the other two books in that series) over
> and over �he may be on his second copy of them! He�s 12 now, and reading The
> Lightning Thief books. He read The Lord of the Rings a few years ago when he
> wanted to see the movies --- I made him read the books first. J Honestly, I
> cannot keep up with what he reads. I stopped �approving� his books long ago,
> when I realized that he really wasn�t interested in reading books I deemed
> inappropriate anyhow. J He did read the Twilight series, and enjoyed them.
>
> My non-gifted reader (age 10) has loved the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series. He
> also likes graphic novels, and had devoured the Bone books.
>
> Neither of my kids liked the Lemony Snicket books. We haven�t tried the 39
> Clues yet � might be good for my younger one though.
>
> Krista
>
> From:
parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com<parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.co\
m>[mailto:
>
parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com<parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.co\
m>]
> On Behalf Of felicitygirl22@... <felicitygirl22%40aol.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:25 PM
> To:
parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com<parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.co\
m>
>
> Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers
>
> My son has enjoyed the Warrior and Seeker series this year. He loved the
> Lemony Snicket series, the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series and the 39 Clues
> books. He's also enjoyed Fergus Crane, the School of Fear & the Golden Grey
> series. He's now 9 and likewise finished the Harry Potter's at 7.
> Recently, he also really loved the Pseudonym Bosch books & the Narnia
> series. I let him read Twilight and New Moon because he likes the
> vampire/werewolf stuff, but doesn't seem too interested in the love story.
> I'd say anything younger than 9/10 would probably be too young content-wise
> for Twilight (although not language-wise since the books are written so
> simplistically).
> Diane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kd <gabrieljosephsmom@... <gabrieljosephsmom%40yahoo.com><mailto:
> gabrieljosephsmom%40yahoo.com <gabrieljosephsmom%2540yahoo.com>> >
> To:
parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com<parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.co\
m><mailto:
>
parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.com<parentinggiftedchildren%2540yahoogroup\
s.com>>
>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:44 am
> Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers
>
> My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry
> Potter books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle
> to find things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
> When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original
> Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It
> can definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high
> lexile level.
> -kel
>
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>
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>
>



--
Brandi-mommy to Emma, Becca, Sarah,
Joey and Anna

A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his hands are
empty.  ~Author Unknown


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My gifted reader has loved the Warriors series.  He’s read them all numerous
times.  He also read Inkheart (and the other two books in that series) over and
over –he may be on his second copy of them!  He’s 12 now, and reading The
Lightning Thief books.  He read The Lord of the Rings a few years ago when he
wanted to see the movies --- I made him read the books first.  J   Honestly, I
cannot keep up with what he reads.  I stopped “approving” his books long
ago, when I realized that he really wasn’t interested in reading books I
deemed inappropriate anyhow.  J  He did read the Twilight series, and enjoyed
them.



My non-gifted reader (age 10) has loved the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series.   He
also likes graphic novels, and had devoured the Bone books.



Neither of my kids liked the Lemony Snicket books.  We haven’t tried the 39
Clues yet – might be good for my younger one though.



Krista



From: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
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felicitygirl22@...
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:25 PM
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers






My son has enjoyed the Warrior and Seeker series this year. He loved the Lemony
Snicket series, the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series and the 39 Clues books. He's
also enjoyed Fergus Crane, the School of Fear & the Golden Grey series. He's now
9 and likewise finished the Harry Potter's at 7.
Recently, he also really loved the Pseudonym Bosch books & the Narnia series. I
let him read Twilight and New Moon because he likes the vampire/werewolf stuff,
but doesn't seem too interested in the love story. I'd say anything younger than
9/10 would probably be too young content-wise for Twilight (although not
language-wise since the books are written so simplistically).
Diane

-----Original Message-----
From: kd <gabrieljosephsmom@... <mailto:gabrieljosephsmom%40yahoo.com> >
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:parentinggiftedchildren%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:44 am
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers

My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry Potter
books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle to find
things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original Nancy
Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It can
definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high lexile
level.
-kel

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Yes, my son loved Animorphs too at 7. He read them all from the school library.
Also Secret Garden, the Fudge series & the Ramona series.
Diane






-----Original Message-----
From: Krista Claassen <kclaassen@...>
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 7:54 pm
Subject: RE: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re:  Books for advanced readers





My son really enjoyed the Animorphs series when he was about that age.

Krista

From: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kd
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:44 AM
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers

My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry
Potter books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle
to find things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original
Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It
can definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high
lexile level.
-kel

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My son has enjoyed the Warrior and Seeker series this year. He loved the Lemony
Snicket series, the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series and the 39 Clues books. He's
also enjoyed Fergus Crane, the School of Fear & the Golden Grey series. He's now
9 and likewise finished the Harry Potter's at 7.
Recently, he also really loved the Pseudonym Bosch books & the Narnia series. I
let him read Twilight and New Moon because he likes the vampire/werewolf stuff,
but doesn't seem too interested in the love story. I'd say anything younger than
9/10 would probably be too young content-wise for Twilight (although not
language-wise since the books are written so simplistically).
Diane



-----Original Message-----
From: kd <gabrieljosephsmom@...>
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:44 am
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re:  Books for advanced readers





My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry Potter
books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle to find
things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original Nancy
Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It can
definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high lexile
level.
-kel

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have you read the Narnia series?
Laura

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:14 AM, kd <gabrieljosephsmom@...> wrote:

>
>
> My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry
> Potter books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle
> to find things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
> When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original
> Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It
> can definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high
> lexile level.
> -kel
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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My son really enjoyed the Animorphs series when he was about that age.



Krista



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[mailto:parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kd
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:44 AM
To: parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Parenting Gifted Children] Re: Books for advanced readers





My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry
Potter books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle
to find things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original
Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It
can definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high
lexile level.
-kel

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I'd see the psychologist now. We waited with my son, and I wish we hadn't. He's
6 now and just finished his psychological testing last week. We find out the
results next week. He's already been diagnosed with ADHD (that was kind of a
no-brainer, lol), but he was being assessed for possible Asperger's Syndrome.
The psychologist said there's no question that his IQ is very high, but some of
the scores on his other tests (like pragmatic language, social interactions, and
play skills) were probably going to be lower, and it's the discrepancy between
test scores that determines diagnostic criteria.
Rory was in kindergarten last year, and we had to remove him from school
(private school) because of his behavior, which involved hitting other kids (and
then getting hit back, which was worse, since he was the smallest and youngest
in the class), throwing chairs, and destroying every assignment that crossed his
desk. I'm homeschooling him for now, and most days it's been going well. Not
today...but in general.
Amnesty

--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, Brandi Durocher <funwith4@...>
wrote:
>
> A psychologist won't hurt but you have to be prepared that they might
> try and dx adhd or something, if you aren't ready for that I'd wait
>
> The biggest thing I've found is avoid boredom and unoccupied time,
> that's when these kids look for stimulation or something to occupy
> them, if they can't find any they create drama through physical or
> antagonizing behavior
>
> On 12/8/09, Amy P <bluehat.greenhat@...> wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I just joined the group and I'm hoping to get some advice on how to approach
> > the issues we're having with our almost 4 1/2 year old daughter. She has not
> > been tested ( we'd like to wait until she's older�when the tests�are
more
> > reliable) but we, along with her pediatrician and teachers, believe she is
> > highly gifted. Some things we've observed: she knew her letters�at 16
months
> > old and was reading at 2 1/2. She is currently reading at a 3rd grade level.
> > She has a great memory and learns songs (to sing and to play on the piano)
> > really fast.
> >
> > Intellectually, she is clearly ahead of her peers but, socially, she is
> > definitely laggging behind.��She can be�hard to handle, particularly
outside
> > our home, when she is around other kids. She was going to a traditional
> > preschool last year and this is when we really started noticing her behavior
> > issues:�refused to�follow her teacher's instructions, ran around
laughing
> > loudly�class,�pushed her classmates and messed with their work, etc.
> > They�tried putting her in time out but it never fazed her. ( Time outs do
> > work well at home, though.) After observing her in class one day, we
> > realized that the traditional classrom setting must be so boring for her so
> > we switched her to a Montessori school this year.�We like their philosophy
> > of giving her flexibility and freedom to perform at her level.
> >
> > Her behavior has improved but she still has days where she just will not
> > listen to her teachers and�will deliberately do something naughty�and
laugh
> > about it.�Just today, she�was getting too rough with a younger little
girl
> > and would not stop even after the teacher told her to. �( I should also
> > mention that she has shown this disruptive behavior even outside school- for
> > example: dance class.) Her teacher said that she does really, really well
> > when they are doing their "work" but her misbehavior tends to happen during
> > play time.
> >
> > How do we help our little girl? She is a sweet, loving daughter and older
> > sister and it breaks my heart that she is having all these social problems.
> > Because of her misbehavior, the other kids are hesitant to play with her.
> > When they do try to reach out to her, most of the time she refuses to play
> > with them and prefers to do her own thing.
> >
> > Should we seek the help of a psychologist? Montessori has helped improve her
> > behavior immensely but we still have some bad days. Should we just give it
> > some more time, since she's only been there a few months?
> >
> > Thank you for reading this and PLEASE HELP!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Brandi-mommy to Emma, Becca, Sarah,
> Joey and Anna
>
> A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his
> hands are empty.  ~Author Unknown
>

What about chronicles of narnia series?  Also my dd (8th grade,
reading level is sophomore college so nothing really for her but non
fiction so she reads whatever) really likes the guardian cat series, I
mention this b/c she is a big harry potter fan, I will have to ask her
about appropriateness though.  Time cat and other books by that author
seem to be good for gifted kids as well.  Artemis fowl and redwall
series are another for hp fans.

On 12/11/09, kd <gabrieljosephsmom@...> wrote:
> My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry
> Potter books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle
> to find things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
> When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original
> Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It
> can definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high
> lexile level.
> -kel
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Brandi-mommy to Emma, Becca, Sarah,
Joey and Anna

A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his
hands are empty.  ~Author Unknown

My 5 year old really likes animal books, and these tend to bridge the age gap
better (which answers question #2 - animals don't need to be a particular age,
as a main character person does)
Some suggestions:

-Stuart Little
-The Mouse and the Motorcycle (and most Beverly Cleary)
-Warriors series-about cats (btw, my friend is a middle school librarian, and
these are popular there, too)
-Redwall (this is excellent, though very advanced vocab - I'm reading this
aloud)
-Poppy (and related books by Avi - though some Avi books are older kid topics,
and if your kid is very sensitive, these do have sad parts)
-Mr. Popper's Penguins
-Mrs. Frisby and the rats of Nimh (and others in the series)
-Chronicles of Narnia (we are listening on tape - all the kids, ages5-11)


-Margie

  �
> I have two questions for the group:
> �
> 1.� What book titles/series have you found your advanced reading children to
enjoy reading?�
> �
> 2.� I enjoy writing, and wondered about perhaps trying to write a children's
chapter book that would interest children like my dd while still appealing to
the middle grade kids that would mainly be ready for it.� If I were to do this,
what topics/ideas do you think your child would personally be interested in
(imagine your child to be a kindergartener reading at a 3rd or 4th grade
level).���
> �
> Any help would be appreciated.
> �
> Karen
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

My son is now 7 and in second grade. He just finished all of the Harry Potter
books and is looking for something else to read. It's a real struggle to find
things he is interested in that aren't too mature for him.
When he was younger, he read the Magic Tree House books and the original Nancy
Drew and Hardy Boys series. He also loved the Ghosthunter books. It can
definitely be difficult to find age appropriate books that are at a high lexile
level.
-kel




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My 6 year old is in kindergarten and is reading with comprehension at a 3rd
grade level, but she doesn't have the endurance to read a chapter book at that
level unless it is something that she really likes.  The last series that she
loved was Andrew Lost (http://www.randomhouse.com/kids/andrewlost/), because she
likes science.  She hasn't quite got into Magic Tree House or A-Z Mysteries,
yet.  I personally don't like the Junie B. Jones books, but she likes some of
them.
Her school uses Accelerated Reader which has been helpful. 
(http://www.arbookfind.com/)  She takes home picture books that are at her
reading level.  I still have to screen them to make sure they are content
appropriate, though.

As far as ideas for writing a book, I like the idea of a fiction book that has
some non-fiction concepts in them (science, history, the arts, etc.).  It has
the fun of a fiction story while giving kids the opportunity to learn about
something real, too.  Stay away from any social topics about how older kids
sometimes treat one another or making the child character a know-it-all, but the
adults are clueless (I personally hate that about some of the older kid TV
programming, but maybe it's just me!! :)  )  Good luck to you!!

Anne




--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, Brandi Durocher <funwith4@...>
wrote:
>
> My 4 year old loves magic treehouse series and they are long lasting,
> my 9 year old just stopped reading them.  My 4 year old also likes
> junie b jones but it has words like stupid in it (bad word in our
> house), my older 2 never got into it much.  Both series are about an
> early 2nd grade level.  My kids could sit through me reading them
> chapter books at age 3 so reading them when they were on that level
> was no issue.  My oldest didint read them till 1st b/c I didn't
> realise she could b efore that.  My 2nd wasn't as advanced and her
> attn span is horrid so she was more 2nd grade.  My 4 year old hasn't
> gotten that far yet, she is still in beginner books.
>
> The other thing is non fiction is really good for those that read
> above age level.  The book adventure website suggests books based on
> reading level but I believe on the lexile site you can find books that
> match both their level and age.
>
> On 10/22/09, Karen Luba <klipluba@...> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone.� I have a dd who will be 4 at the end of October.� She has been
> > reading for several months now, and I would estimate her to be reading at a
> > late first/early 2nd grade level.� She reads everything she can get her
> > hands on.� Books, boxes, notes, newsletters, etc.� I am thrilled, but then I
> > got thinking- what will she do in about a year, when she will be ready for
> > chapter books?� I want her to keep reading- she obviously loves it, and
> > always has been fascinated with letters and words.� But, most middle
> > elementary chapter books are about- well, middle elementary children. My dd
> > is only in her first year of preschool (she is old for her grade due to the
> > October birthday.� She won't be in kindergarten for two more years.)
> >
> > I have two questions for the group:
> >
> > 1.� What book titles/series have you found your advanced reading children to
> > enjoy reading?
> >
> > 2.� I enjoy writing, and wondered about perhaps trying to write a children's
> > chapter book that would interest children like my dd while still appealing
> > to the middle grade kids that would mainly be ready for it.� If I were to do
> > this, what topics/ideas do you think your child would personally be
> > interested in (imagine your child to be a kindergartener reading at a 3rd or
> > 4th grade level).
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Brandi-mommy to Emma, Becca, Sarah,
> Joey and Anna
>
> A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his
> hands are empty.  ~Author Unknown
>

At 10:19 am 11/12/09 +0000, you wrote:
>My 4 year old loves magic treehouse series

       My daughter (now 6 1/2) loves those, too.  And she's learned
*so* much from them, too (and she loves history, geography, and
science which are the primary subjects covered...).

       One of her newer favorites is Cam Jansen (*not* "Young Cam
Jansen").  It has the advantage of having a really smart girl for a
main character.  And the characters, just in general, are portrayed
without sexism.

Brandel in Jerusalem

/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\

They'll take your soul if you let them
Oh yeah, but don't you let them.

--Carole King

A psychologist won't hurt but you have to be prepared that they might
try and dx adhd or something, if you aren't ready for that I'd wait

The biggest thing I've found is avoid boredom and unoccupied time,
that's when these kids look for stimulation or something to occupy
them, if they can't find any they create drama through physical or
antagonizing behavior

On 12/8/09, Amy P <bluehat.greenhat@...> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I just joined the group and I'm hoping to get some advice on how to approach
> the issues we're having with our almost 4 1/2 year old daughter. She has not
> been tested ( we'd like to wait until she's older�when the tests�are more
> reliable) but we, along with her pediatrician and teachers, believe she is
> highly gifted. Some things we've observed: she knew her letters�at 16 months
> old and was reading at 2 1/2. She is currently reading at a 3rd grade level.
> She has a great memory and learns songs (to sing and to play on the piano)
> really fast.
>
> Intellectually, she is clearly ahead of her peers but, socially, she is
> definitely laggging behind.��She can be�hard to handle, particularly outside
> our home, when she is around other kids. She was going to a traditional
> preschool last year and this is when we really started noticing her behavior
> issues:�refused to�follow her teacher's instructions, ran around laughing
> loudly�class,�pushed her classmates and messed with their work, etc.
> They�tried putting her in time out but it never fazed her. ( Time outs do
> work well at home, though.) After observing her in class one day, we
> realized that the traditional classrom setting must be so boring for her so
> we switched her to a Montessori school this year.�We like their philosophy
> of giving her flexibility and freedom to perform at her level.
>
> Her behavior has improved but she still has days where she just will not
> listen to her teachers and�will deliberately do something naughty�and laugh
> about it.�Just today, she�was getting too rough with a younger little girl
> and would not stop even after the teacher told her to. �( I should also
> mention that she has shown this disruptive behavior even outside school- for
> example: dance class.) Her teacher said that she does really, really well
> when they are doing their "work" but her misbehavior tends to happen during
> play time.
>
> How do we help our little girl? She is a sweet, loving daughter and older
> sister and it breaks my heart that she is having all these social problems.
> Because of her misbehavior, the other kids are hesitant to play with her.
> When they do try to reach out to her, most of the time she refuses to play
> with them and prefers to do her own thing.
>
> Should we seek the help of a psychologist? Montessori has helped improve her
> behavior immensely but we still have some bad days. Should we just give it
> some more time, since she's only been there a few months?
>
> Thank you for reading this and PLEASE HELP!
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

--
Sent from my mobile device

Brandi-mommy to Emma, Becca, Sarah,
Joey and Anna

A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his
hands are empty.  ~Author Unknown

My 4 year old loves magic treehouse series and they are long lasting,
my 9 year old just stopped reading them.  My 4 year old also likes
junie b jones but it has words like stupid in it (bad word in our
house), my older 2 never got into it much.  Both series are about an
early 2nd grade level.  My kids could sit through me reading them
chapter books at age 3 so reading them when they were on that level
was no issue.  My oldest didint read them till 1st b/c I didn't
realise she could b efore that.  My 2nd wasn't as advanced and her
attn span is horrid so she was more 2nd grade.  My 4 year old hasn't
gotten that far yet, she is still in beginner books.

The other thing is non fiction is really good for those that read
above age level.  The book adventure website suggests books based on
reading level but I believe on the lexile site you can find books that
match both their level and age.

On 10/22/09, Karen Luba <klipluba@...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone.� I have a dd who will be 4 at the end of October.� She has been
> reading for several months now, and I would estimate her to be reading at a
> late first/early 2nd grade level.� She reads everything she can get her
> hands on.� Books, boxes, notes, newsletters, etc.� I am thrilled, but then I
> got thinking- what will she do in about a year, when she will be ready for
> chapter books?� I want her to keep reading- she obviously loves it, and
> always has been fascinated with letters and words.� But, most middle
> elementary chapter books are about- well, middle elementary children. My dd
> is only in her first year of preschool (she is old for her grade due to the
> October birthday.� She won't be in kindergarten for two more years.)
>
> I have two questions for the group:
>
> 1.� What book titles/series have you found your advanced reading children to
> enjoy reading?
>
> 2.� I enjoy writing, and wondered about perhaps trying to write a children's
> chapter book that would interest children like my dd while still appealing
> to the middle grade kids that would mainly be ready for it.� If I were to do
> this, what topics/ideas do you think your child would personally be
> interested in (imagine your child to be a kindergartener reading at a 3rd or
> 4th grade level).
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Karen
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

--
Sent from my mobile device

Brandi-mommy to Emma, Becca, Sarah,
Joey and Anna

A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his
hands are empty.  ~Author Unknown

Hi Everyone.� I have a dd who will be 4 at the end of October.� She has been
reading for several months now, and I would estimate her to be reading at a late
first/early 2nd grade level.� She reads everything she can get her hands on.�
Books, boxes, notes, newsletters, etc.� I am thrilled, but then I got thinking-
what will she do in about a year, when she will be ready for chapter books?� I
want her to keep reading- she obviously loves it, and always has been fascinated
with letters and words.� But, most middle elementary chapter books are about-
well, middle elementary children. My dd is only in her first year of preschool
(she is old for her grade due to the October birthday.� She won't be in
kindergarten for two more years.)�
�
I have two questions for the group:
�
1.� What book titles/series have you found your advanced reading children to
enjoy reading?�
�
2.� I enjoy writing, and wondered about perhaps trying to write a children's
chapter book that would interest children like my dd while still appealing to
the middle grade kids that would mainly be ready for it.� If I were to do this,
what topics/ideas do you think your child would personally be interested in
(imagine your child to be a kindergartener reading at a 3rd or 4th grade
level).���
�
Any help would be appreciated.
�
Karen




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Hi,

When I was teaching Yr 1 I did a lot of work with emotional intelligence. 
Instead of teachers/adults using "words/auditory" explanations to feelings, have
you thought of using happy, sad, confused, angry etc pictures and colour coding
the emotions to convey what the children who are hurt would be feeling and most
importantly, how your daughter is feeling at the time of the incident.

Maybe if the problems occur during the "down/free" time, then your daughter is
bored, unfocused and is simply frustrated as her peers are not on the same
level.

My daughter is almost 2 & 3m and has followed the same pattern as your daughter.
She has now began pushing children for unprovoked reasons.  I am to believe
(more a guess at this stage) that she is demonstrating her dominance over her
peers. If she feel dominant, then she is willing to play really well and share. 
If anyone doesn't follow her rules than we have dramas.

Hope this helps.



Perhaps by focusing on


--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, Amy P <bluehat.greenhat@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi.
> �
> I just joined the group and I'm hoping to get some advice on how to approach
the issues we're having with our almost 4 1/2 year old daughter. She has not
been tested ( we'd like to wait until she's older�when the tests�are more
reliable) but we, along with her pediatrician and teachers, believe she is
highly gifted. Some things we've observed: she knew her letters�at 16 months old
and was reading at 2 1/2. She is currently reading at a 3rd grade level. She has
a great memory and learns songs (to sing and to play on the piano) really fast.
> �
> Intellectually, she is clearly ahead of her peers but, socially, she is
definitely laggging behind.��She can be�hard to handle, particularly outside our
home, when she is around other kids. She was going to a traditional preschool
last year and this is when we really started noticing her behavior
issues:�refused to�follow her teacher's instructions, ran around laughing
loudly�class,�pushed her classmates and messed with their work, etc. They�tried
putting her in time out but it never fazed her. ( Time outs do work well at
home, though.) After observing her in class one day, we realized that the
traditional classrom setting must be so boring for her so we switched her to a
Montessori school this year.�We like their philosophy of giving her flexibility
and freedom to perform at her level.
> �
> Her behavior has improved but she still has days where she just will not
listen to her teachers and�will deliberately do something naughty�and laugh
about it.�Just today, she�was getting too rough with a younger little girl and
would not stop even after the teacher told her to. �( I should also mention that
she has shown this disruptive behavior even outside school- for example: dance
class.) Her teacher said that she does really, really well when they are doing
their "work" but her misbehavior tends to happen during play time.
> �
> How do we help our little girl? She is a sweet, loving daughter and older
sister and it breaks my heart that she is having all these social problems.
Because of her misbehavior, the other kids are hesitant to play with her. When
they do try to reach out to her, most of the time she refuses to play with them
and prefers to do her own thing.
> �
> Should we seek the help of a psychologist? Montessori has helped improve her
behavior immensely but we still have some bad days. Should we just give it some
more time, since she's only been there a few months?
> �
> Thank you for reading this and PLEASE HELP!
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Hi Everyone,

I found this group in frustration! As it turns out my 2y 3m old daughter will be
gifted.  She has been a very intense baby and never quite fitted in to the same
learning schedule as most other children.  she has followed the same pattern as
a lot of other children on this site eg 1000+ word vocab before 2, stringing
words and letter/sound knowledge by 18 months and she is now very close to
reading. She can count (not just rote) in English and Spanish and knows all
sorts of shapes. She has an amazing memory and when you talk about an animal eg
a bird, she needs to know what type of bird.

I find I dont have any friends to talk to about this as they seem to feel
threatened by my daughter's advancements or they respond by suggesting "let kids
be kids".  I stopped doing a lot of the reading. letter and knowledge base as
people were telling me that she is too young for that, but then we hit a really
naughty patch.  My daughter was having tantrums and being naughty all day.  It
was horrible.  We decided to go back to teaching/learning/experiencing as we
were before and she is a different little girl.

She is in an older swimming and music class, I buy toys much older than her age
that allows imagination or problem solving, but if anyone knows of anything that
has worked well with their kids, I would love to know.

Thanks for listening

Tiger-Lily
Australia

Hi.
�
I just joined the group and I'm hoping to get some advice on how to approach the
issues we're having with our almost 4 1/2 year old daughter. She has not been
tested ( we'd like to wait until she's older�when the tests�are more reliable)
but we, along with her pediatrician and teachers, believe she is highly gifted.
Some things we've observed: she knew her letters�at 16 months old and was
reading at 2 1/2. She is currently reading at a 3rd grade level. She has a great
memory and learns songs (to sing and to play on the piano) really fast.
�
Intellectually, she is clearly ahead of her peers but, socially, she is
definitely laggging behind.��She can be�hard to handle, particularly outside our
home, when she is around other kids. She was going to a traditional preschool
last year and this is when we really started noticing her behavior
issues:�refused to�follow her teacher's instructions, ran around laughing
loudly�class,�pushed her classmates and messed with their work, etc. They�tried
putting her in time out but it never fazed her. ( Time outs do work well at
home, though.) After observing her in class one day, we realized that the
traditional classrom setting must be so boring for her so we switched her to a
Montessori school this year.�We like their philosophy of giving her flexibility
and freedom to perform at her level.
�
Her behavior has improved but she still has days where she just will not listen
to her teachers and�will deliberately do something naughty�and laugh about
it.�Just today, she�was getting too rough with a younger little girl and would
not stop even after the teacher told her to. �( I should also mention that she
has shown this disruptive behavior even outside school- for example: dance
class.) Her teacher said that she does really, really well when they are doing
their "work" but her misbehavior tends to happen during play time.
�
How do we help our little girl? She is a sweet, loving daughter and older sister
and it breaks my heart that she is having all these social problems. Because of
her misbehavior, the other kids are hesitant to play with her. When they do try
to reach out to her, most of the time she refuses to play with them and prefers
to do her own thing.
�
Should we seek the help of a psychologist? Montessori has helped improve her
behavior immensely but we still have some bad days. Should we just give it some
more time, since she's only been there a few months?
�
Thank you for reading this and PLEASE HELP!





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Hello all,

Usually I just read, but wanted to post today in hopes that it might help
others.

If you read below, you will remember that my son was recommended to skip K and
go to 1st this year and we were pondering.

We selected the public school since the supports are there. Wound up that the
district added teachers and there are 6 first grades and there are 20 in his
class, which works well.

He is in the gifted program too and after the first conference, everything is
great! He is also not bored and loves school. This had been a great choice for
him!

Sharon in PA

--- In parentinggiftedchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon V" <sharonviet@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm new to the group. I joined because of our son. I will try to keep this
short. Our son was adopted and at age 2 we saw lots of things. He was evaluated
and received speech till 2 1/2 (now we can't keep him quiet!) and OT and Beh.
He's now 5 and will loose OT this year (OT said he really didn't need it this
year, so she worked with him on academics more on his level and also social
stuff). He also was a year behind socially until this year. Behaviorally, we
have used ABA Verbal behavior which has worked very well. Three was a tough age,
but four has been really good!
>
> He's read since he was 2 (lining up letters, all the classic early signs...)
right now label is PDD-NOS, but may have asperger's, hyperknesis, ADD.
>
> The school district has done their evaluation (took 2 months and lots of
paperwork!). I've felt for a long time that he's bored.
>
> Now the school district agrees and thinks that he shouldn't be labeled. He's
being recommended to skip kindergarten and go to first grade. His reading and
math levels are on 2nd, but they don't recommend skipping two grades.
>
> They feel strongly that if he is engaged, that he will be less apt to act out.
He looks for attention. They feel with the 1st grade placement, he will be
engaged and by writing an IEP with lots of gifted goals, that they can also
accomodate some 2nd grade academics if he does well even this year. Socially has
has also caught up and is at age or above age level.
>
> Neurologist also says he agrees with school, but we really need to keep an eye
on the social.
>
> We originally enrolled him in parochial school because of the full day
kindergarten, and before we had the eval. School district is excited that he may
go there and they are willing to write the IEP now for the first semester to see
how the transition goes, but want to then remove the label and give him a GIEP.
Right now they will provide some social skills classes in the beginning to see
if he needs it and will monitor class and recess, but feel strongly that based
on their evals in Pre-k that he will not need these services by end of first
semester. They are suggesting this just as a "safety net". Now, the parochial
school has contacted us and will also move him to 1st but waiting to hear what
they can also provide (which I'm sure is not as much as the school district).
>
> The big issue, class size. 15-18 in parochial, but not sure about public. They
say 21-23 but I think more like 25-27. I've viewed the school and although 1st
this year is 21-23, kindergarten is 25-27, so how could it go down next
year????? There also seems to be more structure and discipline in the parochial
and the after school program is better. The public school is also good during
class time, but wonder how recess will be, and worried about finding a good
after care program (husband and I not able to get home till after 5pm).
>
> We feel strongly since all have recommended 1st grade placement that this is a
good fit, but fear the social problems.
>
> Any advice? Appreciate any insite.....sorry I tried to be brief.....
>
> WISCII 139, 127......very superior - birthdate 3/12/04
>
> Thanks! Sharon in PA
>

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That's so weird, I do that too. In meetings I doodle endlessly on a pad so I
can keep from zoning out. I think it also makes me look like I'm busily
taking notes. Haha! We'll give that a try, maybe a car or a lego or
something. It's sort of like a physical mantra.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Jennifer Morgan
<jennifer@...>wrote:

>
>
> Bobbie Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know years ago I worked in a place that literally gave me a coloring
> > book and crayons to use while I was on the phone (i worked for the
> > phone company) and I was much more able to "tune in" and listen to my
> > customers when I could do something else.
> >
>
> That's really interesting. I too am a visual learner -- used to have a
> photographic memory (which has diminished a bit with age), but things I
> hear go pretty much in one ear and out the other. My personal
> experience: I have become sort of obsessed with knitting, and I take it
> with me everywhere. I have found that in PTO meetings and Girl Scout
> leader meetings, the mindless hand repetition keeps me focused on the
> meeting far better than if I am just sitting there idly. I can see how
> the binder clip/Hot Wheels car would work in that way (although I like
> that eventually I'll have a sock as a result of the seemingly endless
> meetings :).
>
> The knitting was originally somewhat distracting to others, but I think
> they've mostly gotten used to it. And I take any opportunity I can to
> explain that it really does help me focus. I also make a point of
> participating vocally in the meetings.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm the president of the PTO now, so no more PTO meeting
> knitting!
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>


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