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Well you did your best. "Great hunting dog" probably equals "offer me money". Same old backwoods mentality. "It" is just a "thing" meant for fun and profit then parked until needed again with no regard that "It" is a living, feeling creature. He apparently has it better than a lot I've seen. With economic time so bad, so many are trying to profit off dogs at least this guy doesn't seem to be a backyard breeder. Maybe he actually has a small fond spot for the old dog.

To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
From: creativity.queen@...
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:04:58 +0000
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] Sad dog: Update

Thanks for everyone's responses. Late this afternoon I went over there, with a big new chew bone. (And I'm not one to put sweaters and such on dogs!)

Dog's daddy was out front trying to get some of his holiday lights to come on, so I walked up with "Hi. Merry Christmas" and then told him I'd brought a chew bone for his dog. He couldn't understand why - I told him I'd driven by and seen him just standing in the yard several times and thought he might enjoy it. And I asked if I could take him home. Just "could I take him home?" no amount of time specified. He wanted to know why I'd want to take him home. I said just to play with him and give him some attention, and he said the dog got lots of attention, he played with him every day and his wife had played with him that morning, and did often. And he wouldn't let anybody take the dog home! He said he was a great hunting dog, repeated that several times. The look on his face said he loved the dog.

And took me around back to where the dog was - sleeping in the doghouse, which is the plastic kind, up off the ground, no door, no extension like an Igloo. He said he'd just given him a new pillow for inside there, and he'd given him a huge ham bone from the soup the night before which he'd totally eaten. But he put the bone I brought in the doghouse with the sleeping dog. The chain thing in the air that I saw in passing was a chain attached to a strap lead attached to a big old metal round-and-round clothespole, so he could run in big circles in either direction without getting tangled. And there are some piles of bricks he could climb up on and look out from.

He had a big water dish and a bucket for food, and I asked how he kept it dry. He said the dog ate it right away - or the birds and squirrels did and it didn't get wet as a result. I asked him if he ever took him inside, that I had thought he looked kind of forlorn standing out there when I'd driven by late at night, and he said he just liked to stand out there and stare at nothing. (Maybe he's remembering his happy youth as a hunting dog!) I asked how old he was - 15!!! I said wow, that was really old for a dog, maybe coming in would feel good on his old bones, and he said that once in a while they brought him into the house, but he did bring him into the garage sometimes when he was in there working on furniture stuff (refinishing is one of his hobbies). We walked back to the front and he thanked me for bringing the bone. I suggested he check and see if any of the plugs were loose, he did and his lights came on. And he went in to his guests. I came home.

As for taking him off the chain after a certain number of hours, I don't know if that is in the Paducah ordinance or not, but I know it's a 6' chain required. I don't think he comes off the chain much, but apparently, he can run, and he does get attention daily, although I don't know for how much time. I feel better knowing his house is off the ground and he has a nice plump dog pillow in there to curl up on, although I wish there was a door or baffle for rain. As someone answered, he is a spaniel and can deal with cold and wet - but that is not the same as being chained and forced to sleep in cold windy wet, especially not for a 15-year-old dog. I guess he just huddles at the other end when rain is blowing in?

Maybe my visit will bring them to give him a bit more attention, at least for a little while. Or even bring him in on really nasty windy-wet-cold nights, or put him in the garage then. I guess if he's 15 and not ill, they take care of him enough, even if he has no freedom from being chained. (Or maybe he got old because they keep him out of the streets since moving to town.) But I wish they would take him for walks sometimes just so he sees some new trees!

M.

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#1727

From: "creativity.queen" <creativity.queen@...>
Date: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:04 am
Subject: Sad dog: Update

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Thanks for everyone's responses. Late this afternoon I went over there, with a
big new chew bone. (And I'm not one to put sweaters and such on dogs!)

Dog's daddy was out front trying to get some of his holiday lights to come on,
so I walked up with "Hi. Merry Christmas" and then told him I'd brought a chew
bone for his dog. He couldn't understand why - I told him I'd driven by and seen
him just standing in the yard several times and thought he might enjoy it. And I
asked if I could take him home. Just "could I take him home?" no amount of time
specified. He wanted to know why I'd want to take him home. I said just to play
with him and give him some attention, and he said the dog got lots of attention,
he played with him every day and his wife had played with him that morning, and
did often. And he wouldn't let anybody take the dog home! He said he was a great
hunting dog, repeated that several times. The look on his face said he loved the
dog.

And took me around back to where the dog was - sleeping in the doghouse, which
is the plastic kind, up off the ground, no door, no extension like an Igloo. He
said he'd just given him a new pillow for inside there, and he'd given him a
huge ham bone from the soup the night before which he'd totally eaten. But he
put the bone I brought in the doghouse with the sleeping dog. The chain thing in
the air that I saw in passing was a chain attached to a strap lead attached to a
big old metal round-and-round clothespole, so he could run in big circles in
either direction without getting tangled. And there are some piles of bricks he
could climb up on and look out from.

He had a big water dish and a bucket for food, and I asked how he kept it dry.
He said the dog ate it right away - or the birds and squirrels did and it didn't
get wet as a result. I asked him if he ever took him inside, that I had thought
he looked kind of forlorn standing out there when I'd driven by late at night,
and he said he just liked to stand out there and stare at nothing. (Maybe he's
remembering his happy youth as a hunting dog!) I asked how old he was - 15!!! I
said wow, that was really old for a dog, maybe coming in would feel good on his
old bones, and he said that once in a while they brought him into the house, but
he did bring him into the garage sometimes when he was in there working on
furniture stuff (refinishing is one of his hobbies). We walked back to the front
and he thanked me for bringing the bone. I suggested he check and see if any of
the plugs were loose, he did and his lights came on. And he went in to his
guests. I came home.

As for taking him off the chain after a certain number of hours, I don't know if
that is in the Paducah ordinance or not, but I know it's a 6' chain required. I
don't think he comes off the chain much, but apparently, he can run, and he does
get attention daily, although I don't know for how much time. I feel better
knowing his house is off the ground and he has a nice plump dog pillow in there
to curl up on, although I wish there was a door or baffle for rain. As someone
answered, he is a spaniel and can deal with cold and wet - but that is not the
same as being chained and forced to sleep in cold windy wet, especially not for
a 15-year-old dog. I guess he just huddles at the other end when rain is blowing
in?

Maybe my visit will bring them to give him a bit more attention, at least for a
little while. Or even bring him in on really nasty windy-wet-cold nights, or put
him in the garage then. I guess if he's 15 and not ill, they take care of him
enough, even if he has no freedom from being chained. (Or maybe he got old
because they keep him out of the streets since moving to town.) But I wish they
would take him for walks sometimes just so he sees some new trees!

M.

#1726

From: Vickie Reed <pearlygirl@...>
Date: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: sad dog

reedslittlelady

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That seems like a fairly good start to me

From: richard k <ckelpine1305@...>
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 11:17:21 PM
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] sad dog

I would politely ask them if there is anything I could do to help you and your dog. Bringing him a toy I think is a good start. Just being nice, and seeing what the real story is, before making any decisions is what I do. Yes, in the city of Paducah, there is a law that your dog that is on a chain is to be released every so many hours ,and not on a chain all of the time.I use straw for my outside dogs to stay warm in their doghouse. and probably will go get some next week. so if you talk with them and they could use some straw, I could drop some off to them.

#1725

From: Becky Baucum <rsheeks@...>
Date: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:29 am
Subject: RE: What to do about it? Sad dog...

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I really figured that would stir up a hornets nest but as far as backwood mentality I probably have more study in animal behaviour then most on the internet.....the sad thing is we worry more about an animal that was bred and born for what they do and their abilities then we do hungry and cold children.......It has truely become a sad sad world .......

NIP IT NIP IT

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From: boogiebearsmom@...
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 05:01:30 +0000
Subject: RE: [paducahforeverpets] What to do about it? Sad dog...

You are right. A dog longs for its "pack" and suffers loneliness, boredom and frustration when constantly chained. I thought Paducah had an anti- tethering ordinance but perhaps this is not inside Paducah. The dog should be offered a chance to be a family pet. Taking him INSIDE is not going to ruin his coat and oils that protect his body and it most certainly will do wonders for his mind and overall well being to be an active member of the family. Many hunting dogs and hunting breeds live inside and are truely companion animials rather than yard ornaments. It is the backwoods mentality of some of the people of this area that condemn them to a life of loneliness and despare with minimal needs met to barely protect them from the elements. I hope they will give him to you. A senior dog is easily house trained, more easily than a pup. So many who think "its just a dog" have so little compassion for or understanding of, the emotional as well as physical needs of "just a dog". Good luck to you in helping this poor animal.

To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
From: creativity.queen@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:29:25 +0000
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] What to do about it? Sad dog...

Happy holidays to all, human and furry/feathered/scaled. In that spirit, a question that has bothered me hugely the past while:

The people on the corner are nice people, nice house, nice family. They have an older spaniel they keep on a chain in the back corner of their yard. I am not sure there is a doghouse, although I suspect there is of some kind, I've seen a shape like a low structure when I drive by that corner via the alley and look through an opening in the brick. I don't know if it is up off the ground, has blankets/straw/other bedding or not. I presume he has water, but I don't know when/where/what he is fed.

When I drive by in the daytime or late at night, he is outside there, mostly on the end of the chain (which seems to often be caught or wrapped in the branches above him, maybe 3'-4' of chain down to him - but it might be some kind of retraction-loosen chain thing up there, not sure), standing there, just looking out. He seems very pathetic, and it really bothers me - he's been there in a downpour, and he's been there at 1:30 a.m. when the temp was below 30 degrees. I used to see him in their yard once in a while, or they'd put him on the side porch, but that was a year ago, not seeing him like that recently.

When I asked about him last year, they said he had been with them a long time and they used to have him on a place in the country where he could run, and there was another dog (or two), think he might have been a hunting dog at one point years ago - but now he's senior and I doubt the owner has gone hunting in a while. Then they moved to town, don't remember what they said happened to the other dog(s), and he would run away if they didn't chain him and he isn't a house dog, never was, so they kept him out there. She said they'd put him on the porch or maybe the garage in really bad weather. But like I said, he's been out there all the time recently, as far as I can see. (I could be wrong, but it seems he is out there alone most of the time, day and night.) I know I haven't seen him in the side/front yard with them or on the porch in a long while. I know they could afford to build a real fenced in area for him to run around in, the yard is already partly fenced, but they haven't.

No dog should live like that, even if the chain length is legal and he has a house and food, etc.! As a social creature, he needs his pack, human or dog! But I don't want to start a neighborhood uproar and become the one who started it all - I have few enough friends as it is! She will say it's none of my business, as will some of the neighbors, but I think it is.

Do I offer to either take him and teach him to be a house dog and go for walks (I think he'd love the attention and be easy to house train), or to find him a home in the country with other dogs, or what? Do I talk to other neighbors (who mostly all have dogs) about this and do an "intervention" if they will? I don't want to call the police, because I suspect they'd say he was being legally kept (assuming they still feed him), and if not, he'd end up at the shelter and get put down (which may be better than this life for an old dog, a more peaceful way to die than alone in the cold on a chain if this keeps up). Or I'd have to go get him all traumatized and train him or rehome him - and have a lot of people angry at me.

I am thinking I might take a chew bone over there for him for Christmas as a way to broach the subject. If they don't want me to take him or find him a new home, then what? Then do I threaten having him taken away?

It bothers me. They seem blind to the sadness of it all - as do their kids and grandkids when they visit. I might just go take over the dogbone this afternoon, Merry Christmas to you and your dog...

Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas to you and your critters.
Mindy

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#1724

From: "richard k" <ckelpine1305@...>
Date: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:17 am
Subject: sad dog

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I would politely ask them if there is anything I could do to help you and your
dog. Bringing him a toy I think is a good start. Just being nice, and seeing
what the real story is, before making any decisions is what I do. Yes, in the
city of Paducah, there is a law that your dog that is on a chain is to be
released every so many hours ,and not on a chain all of the time.I use straw for
my outside dogs to stay warm in their doghouse. and probably will go get some
next week. so if you talk with them and they could use some straw, I could drop
some off to them.

#1723

From: pat <boogiebearsmom@...>
Date: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:01 am
Subject: RE: What to do about it? Sad dog...

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:29:25 +0000
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] What to do about it? Sad dog...

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#1722

From: Vickie Reed <pearlygirl@...>
Date: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:00 am
Subject: Re: What to do about it? Sad dog...

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If it bothers you and you are worried about the dog, then ask kindly if they would ever consider parting with him. As surely they might especially if they are not giving him the attention he needs they might relish the chance to give him to a loving home with more time to spend with him. And even if he has always been an outside dog since he is getting old he might like staying inside. We had a rottwieller who used to get nervous if you took him in the house. But as years past and he got older he loved being indoors. Lets face it as we all get older we like things different from what we use to. As for nosing in on their business concerning the dog by all means try not to. But their is no harm in asking if they might like giving the dog away.

From: creativity.queen <creativity.queen@...>
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 3:29:25 PM
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] What to do about it? Sad dog...

Happy holidays to all, human and furry/feathered/ scaled. In that spirit, a question that has bothered me hugely the past while:

The people on the corner are nice people, nice house, nice family. They have an older spaniel they keep on a chain in the back corner of their yard. I am not sure there is a doghouse, although I suspect there is of some kind, I've seen a shape like a low structure when I drive by that corner via the alley and look through an opening in the brick. I don't know if it is up off the ground, has blankets/straw/ other bedding or not. I presume he has water, but I don't know when/where/what he is fed.

When I drive by in the daytime or late at night, he is outside there, mostly on the end of the chain (which seems to often be caught or wrapped in the branches above him, maybe 3'-4' of chain down to him - but it might be some kind of retraction-loosen chain thing up there, not sure), standing there, just looking out. He seems very pathetic, and it really bothers me - he's been there in a downpour, and he's been there at 1:30 a.m. when the temp was below 30 degrees. I used to see him in their yard once in a while, or they'd put him on the side porch, but that was a year ago, not seeing him like that recently.

When I asked about him last year, they said he had been with them a long time and they used to have him on a place in the country where he could run, and there was another dog (or two), think he might have been a hunting dog at one point years ago - but now he's senior and I doubt the owner has gone hunting in a while. Then they moved to town, don't remember what they said happened to the other dog(s), and he would run away if they didn't chain him and he isn't a house dog, never was, so they kept him out there. She said they'd put him on the porch or maybe the garage in really bad weather. But like I said, he's been out there all the time recently, as far as I can see. (I could be wrong, but it seems he is out there alone most of the time, day and night.) I know I haven't seen him in the side/front yard with them or on the porch in a long while. I know they could afford to build a real fenced in area for him to run around in, the yard is already partly fenced, but they haven't.

No dog should live like that, even if the chain length is legal and he has a house and food, etc.! As a social creature, he needs his pack, human or dog! But I don't want to start a neighborhood uproar and become the one who started it all - I have few enough friends as it is! She will say it's none of my business, as will some of the neighbors, but I think it is.

Do I offer to either take him and teach him to be a house dog and go for walks (I think he'd love the attention and be easy to house train), or to find him a home in the country with other dogs, or what? Do I talk to other neighbors (who mostly all have dogs) about this and do an "intervention" if they will? I don't want to call the police, because I suspect they'd say he was being legally kept (assuming they still feed him), and if not, he'd end up at the shelter and get put down (which may be better than this life for an old dog, a more peaceful way to die than alone in the cold on a chain if this keeps up). Or I'd have to go get him all traumatized and train him or rehome him - and have a lot of people angry at me.

I am thinking I might take a chew bone over there for him for Christmas as a way to broach the subject. If they don't want me to take him or find him a new home, then what? Then do I threaten having him taken away?

It bothers me. They seem blind to the sadness of it all - as do their kids and grandkids when they visit. I might just go take over the dogbone this afternoon, Merry Christmas to you and your dog...

Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas to you and your critters.
Mindy

#1721

From: Becky Baucum <rsheeks@...>
Date: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:37 pm
Subject: RE: What to do about it? Sad dog...

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This dog was bred to go in water at below freezing tempt's ,as much as you think he is miserable take a dog like that out of its natural inviroment and he would be miserable ...We take animals and try and make them human with sweaters and clothes and way to hot houses and then wonder why they have allergies and itch and get fat and lazy and then have health problems ........all dogs were bred for a purpose and this hunting dog was bred just for that........being an older dog he is probably very content, except for the fact that he might like to take a hunt or two on but then if very old he might not but to take him out of element and take him into a to warm of house would probably cause him multiple problems......and I am sure he has a dog house but because of his breeding he chooses to stand in the rain and the snow as it feel good to him unlike us he was bred with the coat to with stand all weathers and so he does........Have you ever paid close attention to a horse or a cow when the weather is bad you will see them out in the rain as if it were nothing or the snow . God gave them the ability with their coats and the oils he provided in their bodies to stay warm...... When we take these dogs in and bathe them way to much and then put sweaters and clothes on them we take away their natural ability to grow this hair and we strip the oils from thier body..........Now I am sure the dog be it old or young would love attention at some point and may get enough when you are not seeing it.......I mean if it looks thin or sick then it is neglected but as long as there is food and water and plenty of room to get exercise it is probably doing just fine.........

NIP IT NIP IT

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:29:25 +0000
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] What to do about it? Sad dog...

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#1720

From: Vicky Gilman <vic_da_brat@...>
Date: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: What to do about it? Sad dog...

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Wow Thats a rough call. Agreed he would be better off in heaven than die like he seems to be heading BUT..... for you to also take a dog in would be great and as you know they arent too hard to partially train even at an old age. What does your heart say to do?

Vicky
"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened"

"People who don't like cats,
Will come back as mice."

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From: creativity.queen <creativity.queen@...>
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] What to do about it? Sad dog...
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 4:29 PM

Happy holidays to all, human and furry/feathered/scaled. In that spirit, a question that has bothered me hugely the past while:

The people on the corner are nice people, nice house, nice family. They have an older spaniel they keep on a chain in the back corner of their yard. I am not sure there is a doghouse, although I suspect there is of some kind, I've seen a shape like a low structure when I drive by that corner via the alley and look through an opening in the brick. I don't know if it is up off the ground, has blankets/straw/other bedding or not. I presume he has water, but I don't know when/where/what he is fed.

When I drive by in the daytime or late at night, he is outside there, mostly on the end of the chain (which seems to often be caught or wrapped in the branches above him, maybe 3'-4' of chain down to him - but it might be some kind of retraction-loosen chain thing up there, not sure), standing there, just looking out. He seems very pathetic, and it really bothers me - he's been there in a downpour, and he's been there at 1:30 a.m. when the temp was below 30 degrees. I used to see him in their yard once in a while, or they'd put him on the side porch, but that was a year ago, not seeing him like that recently.

When I asked about him last year, they said he had been with them a long time and they used to have him on a place in the country where he could run, and there was another dog (or two), think he might have been a hunting dog at one point years ago - but now he's senior and I doubt the owner has gone hunting in a while. Then they moved to town, don't remember what they said happened to the other dog(s), and he would run away if they didn't chain him and he isn't a house dog, never was, so they kept him out there. She said they'd put him on the porch or maybe the garage in really bad weather. But like I said, he's been out there all the time recently, as far as I can see. (I could be wrong, but it seems he is out there alone most of the time, day and night.) I know I haven't seen him in the side/front yard with them or on the porch in a long while. I know they could afford to build a real fenced in area for him to run around in, the yard is already partly fenced, but they haven't.

No dog should live like that, even if the chain length is legal and he has a house and food, etc..! As a social creature, he needs his pack, human or dog! But I don't want to start a neighborhood uproar and become the one who started it all - I have few enough friends as it is! She will say it's none of my business, as will some of the neighbors, but I think it is.

Do I offer to either take him and teach him to be a house dog and go for walks (I think he'd love the attention and be easy to house train), or to find him a home in the country with other dogs, or what? Do I talk to other neighbors (who mostly all have dogs) about this and do an "intervention" if they will? I don't want to call the police, because I suspect they'd say he was being legally kept (assuming they still feed him), and if not, he'd end up at the shelter and get put down (which may be better than this life for an old dog, a more peaceful way to die than alone in the cold on a chain if this keeps up). Or I'd have to go get him all traumatized and train him or rehome him - and have a lot of people angry at me.

I am thinking I might take a chew bone over there for him for Christmas as a way to broach the subject.. If they don't want me to take him or find him a new home, then what? Then do I threaten having him taken away?

It bothers me. They seem blind to the sadness of it all - as do their kids and grandkids when they visit.. I might just go take over the dogbone this afternoon, Merry Christmas to you and your dog...

Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas to you and your critters.
Mindy

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#1719

From: "creativity.queen" <creativity.queen@...>
Date: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:29 pm
Subject: What to do about it? Sad dog...

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Happy holidays to all, human and furry/feathered/scaled. In that spirit, a
question that has bothered me hugely the past while:

The people on the corner are nice people, nice house, nice family. They have an
older spaniel they keep on a chain in the back corner of their yard. I am not
sure there is a doghouse, although I suspect there is of some kind, I've seen a
shape like a low structure when I drive by that corner via the alley and look
through an opening in the brick. I don't know if it is up off the ground, has
blankets/straw/other bedding or not. I presume he has water, but I don't know
when/where/what he is fed.

When I drive by in the daytime or late at night, he is outside there, mostly on
the end of the chain (which seems to often be caught or wrapped in the branches
above him, maybe 3'-4' of chain down to him - but it might be some kind of
retraction-loosen chain thing up there, not sure), standing there, just looking
out. He seems very pathetic, and it really bothers me - he's been there in a
downpour, and he's been there at 1:30 a.m. when the temp was below 30 degrees. I
used to see him in their yard once in a while, or they'd put him on the side
porch, but that was a year ago, not seeing him like that recently.

When I asked about him last year, they said he had been with them a long time
and they used to have him on a place in the country where he could run, and
there was another dog (or two), think he might have been a hunting dog at one
point years ago - but now he's senior and I doubt the owner has gone hunting in
a while. Then they moved to town, don't remember what they said happened to the
other dog(s), and he would run away if they didn't chain him and he isn't a
house dog, never was, so they kept him out there. She said they'd put him on the
porch or maybe the garage in really bad weather. But like I said, he's been out
there all the time recently, as far as I can see. (I could be wrong, but it
seems he is out there alone most of the time, day and night.) I know I haven't
seen him in the side/front yard with them or on the porch in a long while. I
know they could afford to build a real fenced in area for him to run around in,
the yard is already partly fenced, but they haven't.

No dog should live like that, even if the chain length is legal and he has a
house and food, etc.! As a social creature, he needs his pack, human or dog! But
I don't want to start a neighborhood uproar and become the one who started it
all - I have few enough friends as it is! She will say it's none of my business,
as will some of the neighbors, but I think it is.

Do I offer to either take him and teach him to be a house dog and go for walks
(I think he'd love the attention and be easy to house train), or to find him a
home in the country with other dogs, or what? Do I talk to other neighbors (who
mostly all have dogs) about this and do an "intervention" if they will? I don't
want to call the police, because I suspect they'd say he was being legally kept
(assuming they still feed him), and if not, he'd end up at the shelter and get
put down (which may be better than this life for an old dog, a more peaceful way
to die than alone in the cold on a chain if this keeps up). Or I'd have to go
get him all traumatized and train him or rehome him - and have a lot of people
angry at me.

I am thinking I might take a chew bone over there for him for Christmas as a way
to broach the subject. If they don't want me to take him or find him a new home,
then what? Then do I threaten having him taken away?

It bothers me. They seem blind to the sadness of it all - as do their kids and
grandkids when they visit. I might just go take over the dogbone this afternoon,
Merry Christmas to you and your dog...

Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas to you and your critters.
Mindy

#1718

From: "tammy c" <tamtam_stu@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:46 pm
Subject: pit puppy female

tamtam_stu

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I have a full blood pit she 12 weeks old she is house broken and great with
childern of all ages and other dogs I am asking 100 for her or best off. I can
send pics that I can email you.

#1717

From: "richard k" <ckelpine1305@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:05 pm
Subject: HI everyone!

richard_kelpine

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Just wanted to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas!It looks like we may need a
boat or maybe an ark if this rain continues.I guess it's ok as long as it
doesn't freeze up.
I placed the little girl kitty yesterday, her brother is now the only one
left.He is short haired, black and white tiger striped. Loving, likes to play,
uses the litter box and has had his first set of shots!He gets along with other
cats, and doesn't seem to mind the dogs.
                                   Happy Holidays!
                                               Carolyn

#1716

From: "richard k" <ckelpine1305@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:05 pm
Subject: kittens to good home!

richard_kelpine

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I have 2 kittens in need of forever homes. The little boy is black/white tiger
striped and the little girl is dark brown with mixture of colors. Their Mom is
getting spayed at this moment, and will go bac to her owner. My cats want to
beat the poor things up, so I am having to keep them separate. I am on northside
of paducah and can deliver.
they use the litter box, play with toys,eat dry food, and can food. would do
well togeher to keep each othr company.they had their first set of shots today
and dewormer. If they go to same home, I can pay for little boy to be neutered
when he is ready.  carolyn

#1715

From: "mrs_cornwell06" <mrs_cornwell06@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: puppies

mrs_cornwell06

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Im intrested in the jack puppies, can u send some pic of them?

#1714

From: "mrs_cornwell06" <mrs_cornwell06@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Puppies /Paducah

mrs_cornwell06

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im intrested in puppie is there anyway way u can send me a pic or i could meet
with you asap?

#1713

From: Virginia Richeal <virginiaricheal@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Puppies /Paducah

virginiaricheal

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i would like to look at them i havea 16 year old poodle that needs a play mate

virginia richeal

--- On Mon, 12/21/09, Becky <rsheeks@...> wrote:

From: Becky <rsheeks@...>
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] Christmas Puppies /Paducah
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 5:20 AM

I have 2 Jack Russell pups and 2 Poogle pups left all females . Since it is so close to Christmas and the economy is so bad I am dropping them to $20 dollars each .......

#1712

From: "Becky" <rsheeks@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:20 am
Subject: Christmas Puppies /Paducah

msriverat46

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I have 2 Jack Russell pups and 2 Poogle pups left all females .  Since it is so
close to Christmas and the economy is so bad I am dropping them to $20 dollars
each .......

#1711

From: "Becky" <rsheeks@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:21 am
Subject: Manx Kitten/Paducah

msriverat46

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I have one little rumpy female kitten left I will rehome her for $25.00 she is
really a little beauty.

#1710

From: "tammy c" <tamtam_stu@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:15 am
Subject: Free Puppies to a good home

tamtam_stu

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I seen this on another site and thought with everyone looking for a puppy I
would repost it on our site. I saved the picture of the puppies and will post it
in the photos if you want to see the that are so cute.

I have 7 Puppies that are ready to go right now. They are free to a good home.
There are 5 girls and 2 boys . They are part lab part border collie . for more
information call 270-994-5267

#1709

From: Dorothy Stafford <songbird97798@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:50 am
Subject: Re: New poll for paducahforeverpets

songbird97798

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When ya go to the group homepage.. on the left hand side, click
Attachments" and you'll see them.

--- On Sat, 12/19/09, Cindy P <pugsorbust@...> wrote:

From: Cindy P <pugsorbust@...>
Subject: Re: [paducahforeverpets] New poll for paducahforeverpets
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 11:42 PM

Would someone please post a link to the pics? I went to the site and clicked "photos". I see one posted by kcwing on December 1, but I see nothing from Amanda.

From: "paducahforeverpets @yahoogroups. com" <paducahforeverpets@ yahoogroups. com>
To: paducahforeverpets@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 11:05:08 PM
Subject: [paducahforeverpets ] New poll for paducahforeverpets

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
paducahforeverpets group:

Christms spirit contest, vote for 1 please.

o K.C.Wing
o Amanda Chrisopher

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.. yahoo.com/ group/paducahfor everpets/ surveys?id= 2577897

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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#1708

From: Cindy P <pugsorbust@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:42 am
Subject: Re: New poll for paducahforeverpets

pugsorbust...

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Would someone please post a link to the pics? I went to the site and clicked "photos". I see one posted by kcwing on December 1, but I see nothing from Amanda.

From: "paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com" <paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com>
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 11:05:08 PM
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] New poll for paducahforeverpets

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
paducahforeverpets group:

Christms spirit contest, vote for 1 please.

o K.C.Wing
o Amanda Chrisopher

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/paducahfor everpets/ surveys?id= 2577897

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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#1707

From: "richard k" <ckelpine1305@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:07 am
Subject: chistmascontest

richard_kelpine

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Ok, I see 2 contestants. KC Wing and Amanda Christopher. so ya'll need to go to
the polls an vote. Anyone else that I missed?

#1706

From: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:05 am
Subject: New poll for paducahforeverpets

paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
paducahforeverpets group:

Christms spirit contest, vote for 1 please.

   o K.C.Wing
   o Amanda Chrisopher


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paducahforeverpets/surveys?id=2577897

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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#1705

From: "Becky" <rsheeks@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:14 pm
Subject: Kittens /Paducah

msriverat46

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I have two manx kittens for sale just in time for Christmas.....Both are females
asking $50.00

#1704

From: amanda christopher <angel_charm_baby@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:54 am
Subject: Re: Christmas contest

angel_charm_...

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I sent the pic in an email. Was I supposed to put it somewhere else.

Have A Beautiful Day, Each And Every Day!

--- On Fri, 12/18/09, richard k <ckelpine1305@...> wrote:

From: richard k <ckelpine1305@...>
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] Christmas contest
To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 1:51 AM

Has everyone submitted their entry?Shall we vote this weekend? Carolyn

#1703

From: "richard k" <ckelpine1305@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:51 am
Subject: Christmas contest

richard_kelpine

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Has everyone submitted their entry?Shall we vote this weekend? Carolyn

#1702

From: Becky Baucum <rsheeks@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:19 pm
Subject: RE: Christmas Puppies /Paducah

msriverat46

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Father is a Poodle Mother is a small beagle

NIP IT NIP IT

To: paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com
From: jrjlward@...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:48:40 +0000
Subject: Re:[paducahforeverpets] Christmas Puppies /Paducah

What is the two breeds in a poogle?

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To: <paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 01:09 PM
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] Christmas Puppies /Paducah

I have some beautiful little Poogle pups 8 weeks old and also some little Jack/rats 8 weeks old ready to go to that special home for Christmas.....I do not have pictures but pictures don't show the personality of a puppy and puppies will pick who they love as well as you picking your puppy if interested contact me and I will call you and give you directions ......

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#1701

From: amanda christopher <angel_charm_baby@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:04 pm
Subject: chihuahua puppies in mayfield

angel_charm_...

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I have three chihuahua puppies, born the day after Thanksgiving. Full blooded, no papers. Asking $100 OBO. Ready in January. $25 down to hold your choice. In Mayfield. Call 270-970-3195.

Have A Beautiful Day, Each And Every Day!

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dark boy.jpg

light boy.jpg

#1700

From: "J Ward" <jrjlward@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Puppies /Paducah

jrjlward

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What is the two breeds in a poogle?

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------Original Message------
From: Becky <rsheeks@...>
To: <paducahforeverpets@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 01:09 PM
Subject: [paducahforeverpets] Christmas Puppies /Paducah

I have some beautiful little Poogle pups 8 weeks old and also some little
Jack/rats 8 weeks old ready to go to that special home for Christmas.....I do
not have pictures but pictures don't show the personality of a puppy and puppies
will pick who they love as well as you picking your puppy if interested contact
me and I will call you and give you directions ......

#1699

From: "Becky" <rsheeks@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:09 pm
Subject: Christmas Puppies /Paducah

msriverat46

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I have some beautiful little Poogle pups 8 weeks old and also some little
Jack/rats 8 weeks old ready to go to that special home for Christmas.....I do
not have pictures but pictures don't show the personality of a puppy and puppies
will pick who they love as well as you picking your puppy if interested contact
me and I will call you and give you directions ......