==Nice site: and thank everyone for the info.  25 Jun 2009

Notice the SPEIGHT in 1795 and is she related anywhere else in the OVEREND

Does anyone have any info on Alice Overend born 1901, daughter of Charles
Overend.
Also, a Liverpool, England to Canada as well.

West Derby does have connection with notes from Australian Descendeant of
William Overend b. 1775, British Navy and Elizabeth Atkinson b. 1796, Falmouth,
Cornwall

1861 Census
Thomas OVEREND b. 1817 =mar.Alice SPEIGHT b. 1821, Heysham
Betey       Overend     b. 1846
John         Overend     b. 1850
Sarah       Overend     b. 1854
Thomas   Overend    b. 1858
Charles    Overend    b. 1862   father of Alice Overend b. 1900/01

and          Betey SPEIGHT          b. 1795   mother-in-law

1871 Census
Thomas Overend  husband b. 1817 Portsmouth,    England
Alice      Overend      b.  1819    wife
John       Overend   b.  1850
Sarah     Overend     b.  1854
Thomas Overend    b.  1858
Charles  Overend  b.  1862                   **Mother-in-law  not here

1891 Census
Alice Overend  mar. but living as retired charwoman in as an inmate in an
institution having dementia.

1891 Census
William Overend b.  = mar.  Elizabeth Atkinson  b.

1891 Census       West Derby does have connection with notes from Australian
Descendeant of William Overend and Elizabeth Atkinson says
:
'John William' is William Overend   age 44   b. 1847   head of household
Mary A. Powell Overend  age 32  b. 1859  wife
John Overend                    age 9 mos

Grace Powell       age 60   b. 1831   mother-in-law

1891 Census notes from Australian Descendant as above
Thomas   Overend  age 36   b. 1855  husband, warehouseman
Mary        Overend  age 37   b. 1854 wife,
Mary A.    Overend  age ??
Maggie    Overend  age ??
No further on Betey
--
notes from Australian Descendant as above
William Overend     b. 1775, Warrant Officer of British Navy
Elizabeth Atkinson b. 1776  born at Falmouth Cornwall, Eng.

The next generation down  from Wm and Elizabeth Overend is
Thomas Bryan Overend , b. 1817 at  Portsmouth, Eng husband of

Alice (nee SPEIGHT) Overend b. 1821 Heysham, Lanc. England

Children:
William Overend b. 1842, Heysham, Lanc    husband of
Mary Anne (nee Powell)  Overend b. 1859 Liverpool, England

then their son:
John William Overend b. 1890 Liverpool  husband of
Ester Elizabeth Dean      ===--

===  Overend -
1861 Census
Thomas OVEREND b. 1817 =mar. Alice SPEIGHT OVEREND   b. 1821, Heysham
Betey       Overend     b. 1846
John         Overend     b. 1850
Sarah       Overend     b. 1854
Thomas   Overend    b. 1858
Charles    Overend    b. 1862   father of Alice Overend b. 1900/01
Betey       SPEIGHT      b. 1795   mother-in-law

1871 Census
Thomas Overend  husband b. 1817 Portsmouth,    England
Alice    Overend     b.  1819    wife
John    Overend      b.  1850
Sarah  Overend      b.  1854
Thomas Overend   b.  1858
Charles Overend    b.  1862
            **Mother-in-law  not here

1891 Census        Alice SPEIGHT OVEREND mar. but living as retired charwoman in
as an inmate in an institution having dementia.

1891 Census      William Overend b.  = mar.  Elizabeth Atkinson  b.

1891 Census     I need to verify this one  West Derby
notes from Australian Descendeant of William Overend and Elizabeth Atkinson says
:
J.W. is William Overend   age 44   b. 1847   head of household
Mary A. Powell Overend  age 32  b. 1859  wife
John Overend                   age 9 mos

Grace Powell       age 60   b. 1831   mother-in-law

1891 Census notes from Australian Descendant as above
Thomas Overend age 36   b. 1855  husband, warehouseman
Mary       Overend age 37   b. 1854 wife,
Mary A. Overend  age ??
Maggie  Overend age  ??
No further on Betey
--

William Overend     b. 1775, Warrant Officer of British Navy
Elizabeth Atkinson b. 1776  born at Falmouth Cornwall, Eng.

The next generation down  from Wm and Elizabeth Overend is
Thomas Bryan Overend , b. 1817 at  Portsmouth, Eng husband of
Alice (nee SPEIGHT) Overend b. 1821 Heysham, Lanc. England

Children:
William Overend b. 1842, Heysham, Lanc    husband of
Mary Anne (nee Powell)  Overend b. 1859 Liverpool, England
then their son:
John William Overend b. 1890 Liverpool  husband of Ester Elizabeth Dean
===

===
--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, Pamela Cowgill <pamela@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gillian & Harry,
> Well I do know of some Haworth baptisms that connect to Dewsbury.
>
> Isaac bapt 26 Dec 1776 married Mary Speight of Dewsbury
> Robert bapt 15 Dec 1801 married Martha Newsome at Dewsbury
>
> Both are in the census's for Dewsbury
> 1841 Isaac aged 60
> 1851 Isaac aged 76
> 1841 Robert aged 60
> 1851 Robert aged 75
>
> Isaac possibly died 1855 GRO Dec qtr 279 (haven't got the cert to check)
> Robert died April 1855, buried 22 April 1855 Dewsbury register no. 132.
>
> Those two are the only Overends I have tracked to Dewsbury.
>
> Best wishes.....Pamela
>
> At 12:03 AM 16/07/2001 -0000, you wrote:
> >Hello Harry and list,
> >I noticed references to Haworth Parish Bradford in your message. I am
> >not aware of any close connection between the parishes of Haworth and
> >Bradford. The IGI has a group of Overend baptisms in Haworth. So far I
> >have not connected them to the families in Calverley, Guiseley or
> >Baildon. Do you know if they connect with the Keighley, Kildwick or
> >Dewsbury familes?
> >Best wishes,
> >Gillian
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Harry Overend [mailto:harry@...]
> >Sent: 15 July 2001 20:23
> >To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Some Probate records, deeds and wills
> >
> >Hi Jan and all Overend family tree researchers,
> >Your query regarding probate entries got me thinking.  When I first
> >started
> >researching our family tree many years ago, I went along to the
> >Wakefield
> >public records office and found one or two records, although I wasn't
> >looking for them specifically and most didn't tie in directly with my
> >line
> >of the family, so I only made rough notes on them.  The list of records
> >is
> >as shown below but most refer to Isaacs because it was an Isaac Overend
> >whom
> >I was researching at that time although there are a few other names.
> >The entries are listed - Christian name (all Overends) - Location - Book
> >No.- Page No.- Entry No.- Date
> >Betty - Haworth - LE - 434 - 446 - 1832
> >Henry - Calverley - LI - 611 - 615 - 1834
> >Isaac - Scar Hall, near Sykes of Haworth - HY - 438 - 446 - 1831
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - LI - 360 - 309 - 1832
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - LE - 434 - 446 - 1832
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - LI - 716 - 719 - 2.1834
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - MP - 321 - 319 - 1837
> >Isaac - Oxenhope, Haworth - MY - 47 - 47 - 1837
> >Isaac - Far Oxenhope - MZ - 516 - 465 - 2.1838
> >Isaac - Birstall v NR - NF - 639 - 621 - 2.1839
> >Martha - Leeds - HT - 203 - 183 - 1830
> >Robert - Birstall - IM - 706 - 718 - 1826
> >Isaac - Farnhill P, Kildwick - XS - 283 - 324 - 1.1864
> >Isaac - Dewsbury(Earlsheaton Bank) - ZH - 284 - 309 - 3.1866
> >Isaac (Junior) - Dewsbury(Earlsheaton Bank) - ZU - 152 - 165 - 3.1867
> >Isaac & James - Dewsbury (Dewsbury Bank) - 605 - 748 - 861 - 4.1868
> >Isaac & James - Dewsbury (Dewsbury Bank) - 611 - 294 - 348 - 5.1868
> >Isaac - Haworth (far Oxenhope, Hillhouse Lane) - 621 - 372 - 444 -
> >2.1869
> >Isaac - Haworth (Hoylesyke, Hoylesyke Lane) - 621 - 597 - 708 - 4.1869
> >Isaac - Dewsbury (Earlsheaton Bank) - 619 - 665 - 651 - 4.1869
> >Isaac - Haworth (Sawood) - 653 - 287 - 340 - 3.1871
> >Isaac - Dewsbury (Dewsbury Bank) - 661 - 174 - 208 - 6.1871
> >Isaac - West Riding Will of Sykes near Lower Town Haworth - 670 - 749 -
> >1374 - 6.1873
> >The Rev James Overend - Glusburn Parish, Kildwick - 863 - 214 - 276 -
> >4.1881
> >
> >Deeds
> >446 - Page 434 - 8 June 1832 - Memorial of Indenture of Lease or release
> >between Betty Overend of Silly Hill, Haworth and Isaac Overend of the
> >same
> >address to Elizabeth Horsfall.
> >
> >319 - Page 321 - 15 March 1837 - James Roberts of Uppertown, Haworth to
> >Isaac Overend of Sykes, Draper and Tailor, William Overend of Sykes,
> >Draper
> >and John Overend of Aisle, Farmer (these three built the Wesleyan
> >Methodist
> >Church in 1871.
> >
> >Wills
> >Isaac Overend - 29 December 1887 - The will of Isaac Overend late of
> >Earlsheaton nr Dewsbury who died on 1st December 1887 at Earlsheaton was
> >proved at Wakefield by Isaac Overend of Leeds, Publican, and Joshua
> >Overend
> >of Earlsheaton, Clothier, the sons of the executors.  Personal estate
> >£209
> >and 1 shilling.
> >
> >William Overend, late of Syke, Oxenhope, died 8 September 1886. Proved
> >at
> >Wakefield by Hannah (Widow) of Syke. £273
> >
> >James Overend, late of Earlsheaton, Clothier, Batchelor. Died 5 November
> >1885, probate to father Isaac. £281
> >
> >and finally,
> >'A memorial to be registered of the Probate of the last will and
> >testament
> >of Isaac Overend, late of Sykes near Lower Town in the township of
> >Haworth,
> >Tailor and Draper deceased, which will bears the date 20 November 1872.
> >Of and concerning the dwelling houses  in which the testate resided
> >together
> >with the subsequent outbuildings, garden, ground and everything
> >appertaining
> >to the premises with the exception of the cottage thereinafter mentioned
> >and
> >the cottage adjoining his dwelling house together with the pigsty on the
> >opposite side of the public road. And also all the residue of his
> >property
> >both real and or personal.
> >Which said will as to the due execution thereof by the said Testators is
> >witnessed and attested by Paul Beaver of Sykes aforesaid shoemaker and
> >Joseph Robertshaw of Lower Town aforesaid Warehouseman. And which said
> >probate of will is hereby required by William Overend one of the
> >Devisees
> >therein named to be registered pursuant to Act of Parliament. As witness
> >his
> >hand and seal this seventh day of June 1873.
> >(signed William Overend)'
> >
> >I hope these records are useful to someone. The Public Records Office is
> >in
> >Wood Street, Wakefield, West Yorkshire.
> >Alsithi, (Yorkshire dialect for I'll see you')
> >Harry
> >e-mail: harry@...
> >web site: http://www.overends.freeserve.co.uk/
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message  has been condensed-----
> >  From: Jan Newcombe
> >  Sent: 11 July 2001 21:29
> >  To: Harry Overend
> >  Subject: Hello again
> >
> >  Dear Harry
> >  Saw the email come through from Gillian about probate records.  Do you
> >mind if I ask you if you know of any probates for any of our lot?  It
> >may
> >save me time.  I haven't done much research lately, it seems that times
> >comes and goes, and I strongly suspect that  as you get older you don't
> >complete jobs quite so quickly.  Anyway, must fly again as the school
> >holidays are nearly at an end and only half my list of "things" has been
> >completed
> >  Regards
> >  Jan (NZ)
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >overend-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >overend-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> born in Dewsbury, WRY
> now living in West Australia
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~onthenet/genealogy/
>

==Nice site: and thank everyone for the info.  25 Jun 2009

Notice the SPEIGHT in 1795 and is she related anywhere else in the OVEREND

Does anyone have any info on Alice Overend born 1901, daughter of Charles
Overend.
Also, a Liverpool, England to Canada as well.

West Derby does have connection with notes from Australian Descendeant of
William Overend b. 1775, British Navy and Elizabeth Atkinson b. 1796, Falmouth,
Cornwall

1861 Census
Thomas OVEREND b. 1817 =mar.Alice SPEIGHT b. 1821, Heysham
Betey       Overend     b. 1846
John         Overend     b. 1850
Sarah       Overend     b. 1854
Thomas   Overend    b. 1858
Charles    Overend    b. 1862   father of Alice Overend b. 1900/01

and          Betey SPEIGHT          b. 1795   mother-in-law

1871 Census
Thomas Overend  husband b. 1817 Portsmouth,    England
Alice      Overend      b.  1819    wife
John       Overend   b.  1850
Sarah     Overend     b.  1854
Thomas Overend    b.  1858
Charles  Overend  b.  1862                   **Mother-in-law  not here

1891 Census
Alice Overend  mar. but living as retired charwoman in as an inmate in an
institution having dementia.

1891 Census
William Overend b.  = mar.  Elizabeth Atkinson  b.

1891 Census       West Derby does have connection with notes from Australian
Descendeant of William Overend and Elizabeth Atkinson says
:
'John William' is William Overend   age 44   b. 1847   head of household
Mary A. Powell Overend  age 32  b. 1859  wife
John Overend                    age 9 mos

Grace Powell       age 60   b. 1831   mother-in-law

1891 Census notes from Australian Descendant as above
Thomas   Overend  age 36   b. 1855  husband, warehouseman
Mary        Overend  age 37   b. 1854 wife,
Mary A.    Overend  age ??
Maggie    Overend  age ??
No further on Betey
--
notes from Australian Descendant as above
William Overend     b. 1775, Warrant Officer of British Navy
Elizabeth Atkinson b. 1776  born at Falmouth Cornwall, Eng.

The next generation down  from Wm and Elizabeth Overend is
Thomas Bryan Overend , b. 1817 at  Portsmouth, Eng husband of

Alice (nee SPEIGHT) Overend b. 1821 Heysham, Lanc. England

Children:
William Overend b. 1842, Heysham, Lanc    husband of
Mary Anne (nee Powell)  Overend b. 1859 Liverpool, England

then their son:
John William Overend b. 1890 Liverpool  husband of
Ester Elizabeth Dean      ===--

===  Overend -
1861 Census
Thomas OVEREND b. 1817 =mar. Alice SPEIGHT OVEREND   b. 1821, Heysham
Betey       Overend     b. 1846
John         Overend     b. 1850
Sarah       Overend     b. 1854
Thomas   Overend    b. 1858
Charles    Overend    b. 1862   father of Alice Overend b. 1900/01
Betey       SPEIGHT      b. 1795   mother-in-law

1871 Census
Thomas Overend  husband b. 1817 Portsmouth,    England
Alice    Overend     b.  1819    wife
John    Overend      b.  1850
Sarah  Overend      b.  1854
Thomas Overend   b.  1858
Charles Overend    b.  1862
            **Mother-in-law  not here

1891 Census        Alice SPEIGHT OVEREND mar. but living as retired charwoman in
as an inmate in an institution having dementia.

1891 Census      William Overend b.  = mar.  Elizabeth Atkinson  b.

1891 Census     I need to verify this one  West Derby
notes from Australian Descendeant of William Overend and Elizabeth Atkinson says
:
J.W. is William Overend   age 44   b. 1847   head of household
Mary A. Powell Overend  age 32  b. 1859  wife
John Overend                   age 9 mos

Grace Powell       age 60   b. 1831   mother-in-law

1891 Census notes from Australian Descendant as above
Thomas Overend age 36   b. 1855  husband, warehouseman
Mary       Overend age 37   b. 1854 wife,
Mary A. Overend  age ??
Maggie  Overend age  ??
No further on Betey
--

William Overend     b. 1775, Warrant Officer of British Navy
Elizabeth Atkinson b. 1776  born at Falmouth Cornwall, Eng.

The next generation down  from Wm and Elizabeth Overend is
Thomas Bryan Overend , b. 1817 at  Portsmouth, Eng husband of
Alice (nee SPEIGHT) Overend b. 1821 Heysham, Lanc. England

Children:
William Overend b. 1842, Heysham, Lanc    husband of
Mary Anne (nee Powell)  Overend b. 1859 Liverpool, England
then their son:
John William Overend b. 1890 Liverpool  husband of Ester Elizabeth Dean
===

===
--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, Pamela Cowgill <pamela@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gillian & Harry,
> Well I do know of some Haworth baptisms that connect to Dewsbury.
>
> Isaac bapt 26 Dec 1776 married Mary Speight of Dewsbury
> Robert bapt 15 Dec 1801 married Martha Newsome at Dewsbury
>
> Both are in the census's for Dewsbury
> 1841 Isaac aged 60
> 1851 Isaac aged 76
> 1841 Robert aged 60
> 1851 Robert aged 75
>
> Isaac possibly died 1855 GRO Dec qtr 279 (haven't got the cert to check)
> Robert died April 1855, buried 22 April 1855 Dewsbury register no. 132.
>
> Those two are the only Overends I have tracked to Dewsbury.
>
> Best wishes.....Pamela
>
> At 12:03 AM 16/07/2001 -0000, you wrote:
> >Hello Harry and list,
> >I noticed references to Haworth Parish Bradford in your message. I am
> >not aware of any close connection between the parishes of Haworth and
> >Bradford. The IGI has a group of Overend baptisms in Haworth. So far I
> >have not connected them to the families in Calverley, Guiseley or
> >Baildon. Do you know if they connect with the Keighley, Kildwick or
> >Dewsbury familes?
> >Best wishes,
> >Gillian
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Harry Overend [mailto:harry@...]
> >Sent: 15 July 2001 20:23
> >To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Some Probate records, deeds and wills
> >
> >Hi Jan and all Overend family tree researchers,
> >Your query regarding probate entries got me thinking.  When I first
> >started
> >researching our family tree many years ago, I went along to the
> >Wakefield
> >public records office and found one or two records, although I wasn't
> >looking for them specifically and most didn't tie in directly with my
> >line
> >of the family, so I only made rough notes on them.  The list of records
> >is
> >as shown below but most refer to Isaacs because it was an Isaac Overend
> >whom
> >I was researching at that time although there are a few other names.
> >The entries are listed - Christian name (all Overends) - Location - Book
> >No.- Page No.- Entry No.- Date
> >Betty - Haworth - LE - 434 - 446 - 1832
> >Henry - Calverley - LI - 611 - 615 - 1834
> >Isaac - Scar Hall, near Sykes of Haworth - HY - 438 - 446 - 1831
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - LI - 360 - 309 - 1832
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - LE - 434 - 446 - 1832
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - LI - 716 - 719 - 2.1834
> >Isaac - Haworth Parish Bradford - MP - 321 - 319 - 1837
> >Isaac - Oxenhope, Haworth - MY - 47 - 47 - 1837
> >Isaac - Far Oxenhope - MZ - 516 - 465 - 2.1838
> >Isaac - Birstall v NR - NF - 639 - 621 - 2.1839
> >Martha - Leeds - HT - 203 - 183 - 1830
> >Robert - Birstall - IM - 706 - 718 - 1826
> >Isaac - Farnhill P, Kildwick - XS - 283 - 324 - 1.1864
> >Isaac - Dewsbury(Earlsheaton Bank) - ZH - 284 - 309 - 3.1866
> >Isaac (Junior) - Dewsbury(Earlsheaton Bank) - ZU - 152 - 165 - 3.1867
> >Isaac & James - Dewsbury (Dewsbury Bank) - 605 - 748 - 861 - 4.1868
> >Isaac & James - Dewsbury (Dewsbury Bank) - 611 - 294 - 348 - 5.1868
> >Isaac - Haworth (far Oxenhope, Hillhouse Lane) - 621 - 372 - 444 -
> >2.1869
> >Isaac - Haworth (Hoylesyke, Hoylesyke Lane) - 621 - 597 - 708 - 4.1869
> >Isaac - Dewsbury (Earlsheaton Bank) - 619 - 665 - 651 - 4.1869
> >Isaac - Haworth (Sawood) - 653 - 287 - 340 - 3.1871
> >Isaac - Dewsbury (Dewsbury Bank) - 661 - 174 - 208 - 6.1871
> >Isaac - West Riding Will of Sykes near Lower Town Haworth - 670 - 749 -
> >1374 - 6.1873
> >The Rev James Overend - Glusburn Parish, Kildwick - 863 - 214 - 276 -
> >4.1881
> >
> >Deeds
> >446 - Page 434 - 8 June 1832 - Memorial of Indenture of Lease or release
> >between Betty Overend of Silly Hill, Haworth and Isaac Overend of the
> >same
> >address to Elizabeth Horsfall.
> >
> >319 - Page 321 - 15 March 1837 - James Roberts of Uppertown, Haworth to
> >Isaac Overend of Sykes, Draper and Tailor, William Overend of Sykes,
> >Draper
> >and John Overend of Aisle, Farmer (these three built the Wesleyan
> >Methodist
> >Church in 1871.
> >
> >Wills
> >Isaac Overend - 29 December 1887 - The will of Isaac Overend late of
> >Earlsheaton nr Dewsbury who died on 1st December 1887 at Earlsheaton was
> >proved at Wakefield by Isaac Overend of Leeds, Publican, and Joshua
> >Overend
> >of Earlsheaton, Clothier, the sons of the executors.  Personal estate
> >£209
> >and 1 shilling.
> >
> >William Overend, late of Syke, Oxenhope, died 8 September 1886. Proved
> >at
> >Wakefield by Hannah (Widow) of Syke. £273
> >
> >James Overend, late of Earlsheaton, Clothier, Batchelor. Died 5 November
> >1885, probate to father Isaac. £281
> >
> >and finally,
> >'A memorial to be registered of the Probate of the last will and
> >testament
> >of Isaac Overend, late of Sykes near Lower Town in the township of
> >Haworth,
> >Tailor and Draper deceased, which will bears the date 20 November 1872.
> >Of and concerning the dwelling houses  in which the testate resided
> >together
> >with the subsequent outbuildings, garden, ground and everything
> >appertaining
> >to the premises with the exception of the cottage thereinafter mentioned
> >and
> >the cottage adjoining his dwelling house together with the pigsty on the
> >opposite side of the public road. And also all the residue of his
> >property
> >both real and or personal.
> >Which said will as to the due execution thereof by the said Testators is
> >witnessed and attested by Paul Beaver of Sykes aforesaid shoemaker and
> >Joseph Robertshaw of Lower Town aforesaid Warehouseman. And which said
> >probate of will is hereby required by William Overend one of the
> >Devisees
> >therein named to be registered pursuant to Act of Parliament. As witness
> >his
> >hand and seal this seventh day of June 1873.
> >(signed William Overend)'
> >
> >I hope these records are useful to someone. The Public Records Office is
> >in
> >Wood Street, Wakefield, West Yorkshire.
> >Alsithi, (Yorkshire dialect for I'll see you')
> >Harry
> >e-mail: harry@...
> >web site: http://www.overends.freeserve.co.uk/
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message  has been condensed-----
> >  From: Jan Newcombe
> >  Sent: 11 July 2001 21:29
> >  To: Harry Overend
> >  Subject: Hello again
> >
> >  Dear Harry
> >  Saw the email come through from Gillian about probate records.  Do you
> >mind if I ask you if you know of any probates for any of our lot?  It
> >may
> >save me time.  I haven't done much research lately, it seems that times
> >comes and goes, and I strongly suspect that  as you get older you don't
> >complete jobs quite so quickly.  Anyway, must fly again as the school
> >holidays are nearly at an end and only half my list of "things" has been
> >completed
> >  Regards
> >  Jan (NZ)
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >overend-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >overend-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> born in Dewsbury, WRY
> now living in West Australia
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~onthenet/genealogy/
>

Been a long time since I was here. At least 8 years. I've just retired so I now
have time to do things I want to do.

For those interested, the first part of my email address is my Amateur Radio
Call Sign. I have been a ham for five years now, and get on it every chance I
get.

Not a lot of activity in this group, but I will keep and eye out.

Take care

I use Faceebook and there are a few Overend Groups on there but not one that
deals just with the family tree.  Until now that is, as I've just created
one.

It takes a while before facebook picks it up in its search but if you are
logged into Facebook then this link (hopefully) should work:

http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=92760862664&ref=nf

Regards,
Gary Overend

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I was wondering how many of us are on Facebook and if anyone would be
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My husband's family has one and the area from where they come from in
Newfoundland has one and we have beenable to share a great deal of photo
history.

Is anyone willing to do this if we make it?

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I was wondering how many of us are on Facebook and if anyone would be willing to
create a Facebook page for us to share our family pictures?

My husband's family has one and the area from where they come from in
Newfoundland has one and we have beenable to share a great deal of photo
history.

Is anyone willing to do this if we make it?

Carol Jefferies
Sales Representative
Century 21 Action Power Team Ltd, Brokerage
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A few weeks back I uploaded a family group shot from around 1906 of Charlotte
Overend, daughter of Nathan and Elizabeth Smith, with various New Zealand
descendants and relatives. After circulating this picture among the oldest
Overend descendants here in NZ and in Australia all but five of those in the
group have been identified.

It appears that the gentleman in the centre back row is James, Charlotte's older
brother, who would have been in his early 50s at the time. As this seems to be
the only known picture of  James I've uploaded an enlarged detail, in the hope
that it'll be of interest.

Best Regards,
Joe Wylie

My apologies - it appears that the uploaded picture of what was widely believed
to be the young Charlotte Overend is not her, and is likely to be one of her
half-siblings. Thanks to information from the excellent
http://canterburyphotography.blogspot.com/ it's been possible to establish that
Charlotte Overend would have been at least 20 years old when that picture was
taken. Plainly it's of a rather younger woman. Picture deleted, apologies for my
error.
--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, "hystricomorph" <hystricomorph@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've taken the liberty of posting the two pictures I have of my
great-grandmother Charlotte
> Elizabeth Overend to the photos section, in the miscellaneous album. Charlotte
was born in
> 1860 in Christchurch New Zealand to Nathan Overend (1832-1860) and Elizabeth
Smith (?
> 1836-1884). To the best of my knowledge Charlotte's family arrived in
Lyttelton NZ in
> January 1860 on the Robert Small. Nathan Overend, his wife Elizabeth, their
son James,
> Nathan's sister Fanny and her husband Michael Fagan (spelt Faygan on the
passenger list)
> plus their sons Thomas Edward and Frederick William were on board.
>
> Although Fanny and Michael Fagan seem to have had twin daughters Martha and
Mary in
> 1855 they don't appear on the passenger list. Does anyone know whether they
came to NZ?
>
> Thanks & best wishes to all,
> Joe W
>

Hi George,

Many thanks for that. While I'd been able to glean a certain amount of
information from NZ BMD and cemetery records, much of what you've provided is
new to me. Even after more than a century and a half it's sad to discover the
tragic start - the deaths of the twin infant girls - to the resilient Fagan
family's saga.

While you most likely have this info, I have a death date for Robert Henry Fagan
of 25/6/1937. For his spouse Ellen Mary Carney I have a birth year of 1882, with
her death in 1969.

Where my searches have given different dates:
For Amy Ada I have a death date of 6/11/1935 in Dunedin, with 1898 as the year
of her spouse James King's death.

For Alice Agnes, the now online BMD records have an Alice Agnes Thomas reaching
the age of 93, with a death year of 1967.

I'll have to check further as to whether there may be more than one Alice Agnes
- stranger things have happened. In the meantime, thanks again for your helpful
reply.

Best wishes,
Joe Wylie

Hi hystricomorph
 
Im married to one of the Fagans that desended from Fanny and Michael  (Joy the
Sister of Niell who also replyed) before he died I spent some time putting the
information their Dad had gathered on the family tree into a database my own
father had created on his family and have a pretty extensive setails of Fannies
desendants in NZ.
 
You asked about the twin daughters Martha and Mary who were born in 1855.
they weren't on the Robert Small because both had died. Mary on the same day she
was born (9th Feb 1855) and Martha two days after that on the 11 Feb 1855.
 
The Robert Small sailed from London on the 7th Oct 1759 and arrived in NZ on the
29th Jan 1860.
 
Michael and Fanny went on to have 5 more children once in NZ.
Robert Henry (7/Nov/1867) - married Ellen Margaret Carney on 10/May/1899
Amy Ada (25/June/1869 - 1898) - married James King on 13/June/1886
Walter Herbert (12/July/1871 - 9/Dec/1951) - married Emma Elizabeth Campbell -
1906
Sarah Bridget (13/Nov/1872 - 1931) - married William Eagle on 13/May/1891
Alice Agnes (9/Oct/1874 - 1911) - married Joseph Thomas Hutt on 4/Feb/1891
 
Walter Herbert also married a Margret Rapley on 30/July/1902
 
Both Niell and my Wife Joy are decendants of Thomas Edward
 
 
 
 


--- On Mon, 2/3/09, hystricomorph <hystricomorph@...> wrote:

From: hystricomorph <hystricomorph@...>
Subject: Re: Overend's New Zealand
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 2 March, 2009, 9:03 PM






Hi all,

I've taken the liberty of posting the two pictures I have of my
great-grandmother Charlotte
Elizabeth Overend to the photos section, in the miscellaneous album. Charlotte
was born in
1860 in Christchurch New Zealand to Nathan Overend (1832-1860) and Elizabeth
Smith (?
1836-1884). To the best of my knowledge Charlotte's family arrived in Lyttelton
NZ in
January 1860 on the Robert Small. Nathan Overend, his wife Elizabeth, their son
James,
Nathan's sister Fanny and her husband Michael Fagan (spelt Faygan on the
passenger list)
plus their sons Thomas Edward and Frederick William were on board.

Although Fanny and Michael Fagan seem to have had twin daughters Martha and Mary
in
1855 they don't appear on the passenger list. Does anyone know whether they came
to NZ?

Thanks & best wishes to all,
Joe W

















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Hi Neil,

Many thanks for that, it's certainly given some extra detail to what information
I've been able
to gather so far. Apart from attempting to compile a family tree for my Overend
line in NZ I'm
very interested in the circumstances of assisted immigrants to New Zealand at
the time of
Fanny and Michael's arrival. For example, how attractive was the prospect of
starting a new
life on the opposite side of the globe to those who, in many cases, might never
have left their
native county. The human circumstances, such as Fanny, her husband, her brother
Nathan
and his wife, plus three recorded children travelling as a family group, has
been a marvellous
discovery for me.

Very much appreciate your help on this. While I've been able to trace some of
Michael and
Fanny Fagan's immediate descendants through local BDM and cemetery records I'll
certainly
investigate the link you provided.

Once again, many thanks and best wishes,

Joe Wylie

Hi

I am a great great grandson of  Michael Fagan and Fanny Overend.  Unfortunately
I have only a sketchy knowledge of family history but did come across some
relevant data some years ago.

With regard to the family of Michael and Fanny there is this information which I
copied from the Overend website

Michael Fagan

·         Born: 17 Sep 1831, Dublin, Ireland

·         Married: 28 Aug 1853, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

·         Died: 23 Aug 1902, Alfred Forest, Springburn, New Zealand

·         Buried: 27 Aug 1902, Alfred Forest, Springburn, New Zealand


Michael married Fanny Overend, daughter of Robert Overend and Sarah Curtis, on
28 Aug 1853 in Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England. (Fanny Overend was born on 14 Oct
1834 in Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England, christened on 26 Dec 1834 in Dewsbury,
Yorkshire, England, died on 16 Jan 1912 in Springburn, New Zealand and was
buried in Alfred Forest, Springburn, New Zealand.)

Fanny Overend

·         Born: 14 Oct 1834, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

·         Christened: 26 Dec 1834, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

·         Married: 28 Aug 1853, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

·         Died: 16 Jan 1912, Springburn, New Zealand

·         Buried: Alfred Forest, Springburn, New Zealand


Fanny married Michael Fagan on 28 Aug 1853 in Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England.
(Michael Fagan was born on 17 Sep 1831 in Dublin, Ireland, died on 23 Aug 1902
in Alfred Forest, Springburn, New Zealand and was buried on 27 Aug 1902 in
Alfred Forest, Springburn, New Zealand.)



They had a large family in New Zealand with many descendents in the Canterbury
area, later scattered across NZ & Australia.  This link lists some of them from
the LDS database.  It includes Mary & Martha who would appear to have died at
birth.  The record is clearly wrong as to the place of birth as the family did
not emigrate until 1859.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ancestorsearchresults.asp?LDS=99&juris1=N\
Zea917&last_name=Fagan

Regards

Neil Fagan
7 Welbourn Terrace,
New Plymouth 4310
NEW ZEALAND

E-mail: neilfagan@...

TEL: (06) 758 2997 (Home)
         (027) 233 9218 (Mob - Alison)
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Dear Joe W
 
Sorry  that I cannot help on this score.
 
I was married into the Overend family of Earlsheaton, Dewsbury. West Yorks.
 
The only thing I find which is of a similarity is the fact that one of my
deceased husband's great great great grandfathers was called Fagin Overend.
 
However I will put this letter on my file.
 
Thank you.

Marion Delia Overend of Clifford, Wetherby, West Yorkshire.
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, hystricomorph <hystricomorph@...> wrote:

From: hystricomorph <hystricomorph@...>
Subject: Re: Overend's New Zealand
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 12:03 PM






Hi all,

I've taken the liberty of posting the two pictures I have of my
great-grandmother Charlotte
Elizabeth Overend to the photos section, in the miscellaneous album. Charlotte
was born in
1860 in Christchurch New Zealand to Nathan Overend (1832-1860) and Elizabeth
Smith (?
1836-1884). To the best of my knowledge Charlotte's family arrived in Lyttelton
NZ in
January 1860 on the Robert Small. Nathan Overend, his wife Elizabeth, their son
James,
Nathan's sister Fanny and her husband Michael Fagan (spelt Faygan on the
passenger list)
plus their sons Thomas Edward and Frederick William were on board.

Although Fanny and Michael Fagan seem to have had twin daughters Martha and Mary
in
1855 they don't appear on the passenger list. Does anyone know whether they came
to NZ?

Thanks & best wishes to all,
Joe W



















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Hi all,

I've taken the liberty of posting the two pictures I have of my
great-grandmother Charlotte
Elizabeth Overend to the photos section, in the miscellaneous album. Charlotte
was born in
1860 in Christchurch New Zealand to Nathan Overend (1832-1860) and Elizabeth
Smith (?
1836-1884). To the best of my knowledge Charlotte's family arrived in Lyttelton
NZ in
January 1860 on the Robert Small. Nathan Overend, his wife Elizabeth, their son
James,
Nathan's sister Fanny and her husband Michael Fagan (spelt Faygan on the
passenger list)
plus their sons Thomas Edward and Frederick William were on board.

Although Fanny and Michael Fagan seem to have had twin daughters Martha and Mary
in
1855 they don't appear on the passenger list. Does anyone know whether they came
to NZ?

Thanks & best wishes to all,
Joe W

Great to hear from the group and wondering if  anyone has any connection with
the Overend's linked to Orton Westmorland
I have a tree going  back to John Overend & Isabelle Windar on one side and
Elizabeth Overend and Robert Thornborough on the other side
  Lots of intermarriages with Thornborough ( various spellings ) and Bowness
My direct line from Thomas circa 1787 & Mary Sanderson were in Whitby from early
1800's and the line follows from there
Cheers Pat Phillips Nee Overend


From: hystricomorph
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:24 AM
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Overends New Zealand


Hi All,

My name is Joe Wylie. I'm in Christchurch New Zealand, and currently researching
my
family history. While I'm not an Overend as such, I'm a g-grandson of Charlotte
Elizabeth,
born 1860 in Christchurch, sister of James Overend who arrived in NZ in January
1860
with parents Nathan and Elizabeth née Smith.

While I'm late to the party with this thread, thank you Loretta for starting it,
as it's been a
great help in finding and confirming some elusive connections. Thanks specially
to Harry
Overend for this great forum, combing through the posts here has been
invaluable. If
there's anything I can do by way of passing on relevant information please let
me know.

--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, "carol mercer jefferies" <genelady57@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Loretta,
> I am Carol Mercer greatgreatgrandaughter of Sarah Overend Mercer from
> Lancas, England. I am the Canadian gene bug.
> I am also a member of the yahoo group and love to dig in the old records
> here in Canada for family.
> As you have asked for New Zealand info. I can tell you Maud Overend
> (daughter of Joseph Overend and Susannah Goss Overend) who married Edgar
> Winfield Jones in 1924 moved out to New Zealand (from Tweed Ontario Canada)
> in about 1965. They are both deceased but They went to join their son W.
> Bruce Jones he was working for New Zealand Hydro. I understand he retired in
> 1990. Maybe you can conect with him.
> We are connected to Harry and the Yorkshire branches but very far back.
> I have a picture here of Bruce and his parents, Bruce takes his looks from
> the Overend side of the family.
> I am also a realtor which is also a family trait or at least for our line.
>
> Carol (Mercer) Jefferies
> sales representative
> Century 21
> Action Power Team (west)
> directline (613) 295-9106
>
> Click here to learn how to accelerate your personal performance and
> spiritual growth. >>
> http://jamesray.com/home.php?bid=51&partner=caroljefferies
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "lottys_lot" <b.j.white@...>
> >Reply-To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> >To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Overends New Zealand
> >Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 00:22:09 -0000
> >
> >Hi my name is Loretta and I am from New Zealand .My family line is
> >Nathan Overend who came over on the "Robert Small" would love to hear
> >from any one who has New Zealand overends.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>






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Hi All,

My name is Joe Wylie. I'm in Christchurch New Zealand, and currently researching
my
family history. While I'm not an Overend as such, I'm a g-grandson of Charlotte
Elizabeth,
born 1860 in Christchurch, sister of James Overend who arrived in NZ in January
1860
with parents Nathan and Elizabeth née Smith.

While I'm late to the party with this thread, thank you Loretta for starting it,
as it's been a
great help in finding and confirming some elusive connections. Thanks specially
to Harry
Overend for this great forum, combing through the posts here has been
invaluable. If
there's anything I can do by way of passing on relevant information please let
me know.

--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, "carol mercer jefferies" <genelady57@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Loretta,
> I am Carol Mercer greatgreatgrandaughter of Sarah Overend Mercer from
> Lancas, England. I am the Canadian gene bug.
> I am also a member of the yahoo group and love to dig in the old records
> here in Canada for family.
> As you have asked for New Zealand info. I can tell you Maud Overend
> (daughter of Joseph Overend and Susannah Goss Overend) who married Edgar
> Winfield Jones in 1924 moved out to New Zealand (from Tweed Ontario Canada)
> in about 1965. They are both deceased but They went to join their son W.
> Bruce Jones he was working for New Zealand Hydro. I understand he retired in
> 1990. Maybe you can conect with him.
> We are connected to Harry and the Yorkshire branches but very far back.
> I have a picture here of Bruce and his parents, Bruce takes his looks from
> the Overend side of the family.
> I am also a realtor which is also a family trait or at least for our line.
>
> Carol (Mercer) Jefferies
> sales representative
> Century 21
> Action Power Team (west)
> directline (613) 295-9106
>
> Click here to learn how to accelerate your personal performance and
> spiritual growth. >>
> http://jamesray.com/home.php?bid=51&partner=caroljefferies
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "lottys_lot" <b.j.white@...>
> >Reply-To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> >To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Overends New Zealand
> >Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 00:22:09 -0000
> >
> >Hi my name is Loretta and I am from New Zealand .My family line is
> >Nathan Overend who came over on the "Robert Small" would love to hear
> >from any one who has New Zealand overends.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi Harry,

How nice to get an email from you.

We have moved to an apt. in a retirement community about 20 miles from
where our house was, we are still in Pennsylvania.  My new mailing
address is:  433. S. Kinzer Ave. 47 VSA in New Holland, PA 17557.

I am replying to you on my with my old email address but it will be
canceled on Mon.

Also, we do live in another state from Dec. thru March every year and
that address is:  P. O. Box 744  in Santa Teresa, New Mexico 88008-0744.

I am looking out at snow falling, nice to see but challenging to drive
in.  Fortunately, we will not be going out until morning for church and,
hopefully, by that time the roads will be good.

I do hope you are well.

With trying to sell our house, a challenge in this economy, and all the
sorting and packing we have been extremely busy the past several months
so the genealogy has had to take a backseat to other things but I hope
to get back to it soon.

Take care,

Regards,

Mary Painter

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at  4:06 AM, Harry Overend wrote:

Hi Mary,
I have changed your email address in my email list, but I also have your
original snail mail address too.  Shall I just delete this and leave it
blank or do you want me to have your new snail mail address in case
anyone
wants to mail you.
Best Regards,
Harry Overend - Mirfield, West Yorkshire, UK

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"Ed" < edspics@verizon. net <mailto:edspics@...> >; "Linda"
< LINCAD1@aol. com <mailto:LINCAD1@...> >; "Lynne" <
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fpb2@verizon. net <mailto:fpb2@...> >; "Sally Benjamin"
< walnutcr@peoplepc. com <mailto:walnutcr@...> >; "Kay Bussey"
< SEWKMB@... <mailto:SEWKMB@...> >; "Sue Calvert"
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< eendslow@chestercoh istorical. org
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< jbigfluff@comcast. net <mailto:jbigfluff@...> >; "Mary Legris"
< mlegris@rogers. com <mailto:mlegris@...> >; "Jerry M" <
Jerryadzone@ aol.com <mailto:Jerryadzone@...> >; "Megan Marleau"
< mnmarleau@yahoo. com <mailto:mnmarleau@...> >; "Garry Norton" <
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> WE are in our new apt. now and I am assured by the tech guy here that
> the following is my new email address: mppics@gardenspotvi llage.net
> <mailto:mppics@...> - please contact me at this
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Hi Mary,
I have changed your email address in my email list, but I also have your
original snail mail address too.  Shall I just delete this and leave it
blank or do you want me to have your new snail mail address in case anyone
wants to mail you.
Best Regards,
Harry Overend - Mirfield, West Yorkshire, UK


----- Original Message -----
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To: "Brian" <brian.marleau@...>; "Ed" <edspics@...>; "Linda"
<LINCAD1@...>; "Lynne" <lcreich42@...>; "Rose Alvarez"
<rammierose@...>; "Frank Baier" <fpb2@...>; "Sally Benjamin"
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Hello everyone
I have an Overend tree going way back but it seems to stem from Orton in
Westmoreland
The line seemed to intermarry with Thorn and is Overend on both sides if you get
my ghist
Does anyone else have this line in their tree ?
Cheers Pat Phillips
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: storeyg
   To: overend@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:37 AM
   Subject: overends of Kildwick/Sutton/Farnhill


   Hi all,
   hoping someone can help me with a dilemma.
   Some time back I printed up the details from your website with all the
   generations.
   For Generation 8, you have John Overend born 12th Feb 1758, Farnhill,
   Kildwick.
   And that he married Margaret Atkinson on the 12 Feb. 1782.

   Now my dilemma is his wife.

   This is what I have found:
   Kildwick parish Registers - marriages - Grooms index.

   John Overend of Sutton, woolcomber, bachelor to Margaret Wilson, minor, on
   the 12th Feb, 1782.
   This is also on the IGI.

   John Overend of Farnhill to Mary Wilson of Farnhill, on the 1st, March,
   1802.

   The IGI has an LDS member contribution for the Marriage to Margaret Atkinson
   in 1788, and his birth as 1763. I do not trust the contributions.

   In the Brides index - the only Margaret Atkinsons mentioned as marrying are:
   Margaret Atkinson of Silsden, spinster, to William Lowcock of Silsden,
   husbandman, wid, 3/10/1785
   and
   Margaret Atkinson of Skipton to Jonas Gill in 1789.

   Ok, now the children of John Overend and Margaret? that were baptised at
   Kildwick state
   that the father (for most of the baptisms) is a woolcomber from Sutton,
   Kildwick.

   However, for the children that were baptised for John Overend and Mary
   Wilson, it states they are from Farnhill.

   Should my line, Thomas Overend, born 4th July 1793, bp. 6th Oct 1793, son of
   John and Margaret, woolcomber, of Sutton, be the child of Margaret Wilson,
   as I can find nothing that verifies it is Margaret Atkinson.

   Driving me crazy,

   regards
   Margaret






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Hi all,
hoping someone can help me with a dilemma.
Some time back I printed up the details from your website with all the
generations.
For Generation 8, you have John Overend born 12th Feb 1758, Farnhill,
Kildwick.
And that he married Margaret Atkinson on the 12 Feb. 1782.

Now my dilemma is his wife.

This is what I have found:
Kildwick parish Registers -  marriages - Grooms index.

John Overend of Sutton, woolcomber, bachelor to Margaret Wilson, minor, on
the 12th Feb, 1782.
This is also on the IGI.

John Overend of Farnhill to Mary Wilson of Farnhill, on the 1st, March,
1802.

The IGI has an LDS member contribution for the Marriage to Margaret Atkinson
in 1788, and his birth as 1763. I do not trust the contributions.

In the Brides index - the only Margaret Atkinsons mentioned as marrying are:
Margaret Atkinson of Silsden, spinster, to William Lowcock of Silsden,
husbandman, wid, 3/10/1785
and
Margaret Atkinson of Skipton to Jonas Gill in 1789.

Ok, now the children of John Overend and Margaret? that were baptised at
Kildwick state
that the father (for most of the baptisms) is a woolcomber from Sutton,
Kildwick.

However, for the children that were baptised for John Overend and Mary
Wilson, it states they are from Farnhill.

Should my line, Thomas Overend, born 4th July 1793, bp. 6th Oct 1793, son of
John and Margaret, woolcomber, of Sutton, be the child of Margaret Wilson,
as I can find nothing that verifies it is Margaret Atkinson.

Driving me crazy,

regards
Margaret

Dear Overend's Yahoo Group.

I am Marion Overend previously married in 1959 to Stuart Overend of
Earlsheaton. I have done some geneology but have been unwell for a
while and have not contacted the Overends since my return. If you get
this you can let me know if any of you know about Fagin Overend?

Thank you,

Marion Delia Overend.

Thanks for all this info.
I can fill you in on a few details regarding Daniel Overend and Grace Ann
Petty and their children..
 
1. Daniel lived at Turner House in 1851 and at High Bank in 1861 and at 25,
Red Lane from 1871 onwards. This was the family home for the next three
generations.
Daniel and Grace Ann celebrated thier Diamond Wedding in 1923 Mabel (Hunnebel)
remembered there being a hand loom in the attic at this house.
 
2. Susannah was born in January 1865 and died in 1953 at Leeds. She was my
grandmother.
 
3 Randolph lived at Edenroyd Farm, Stanningley
 
4 Francis was known as Fanny. She married Irwin Ellis
 
5. Florence (Florrie) died on 4 July 1966. She had two sons Maurice and Frank.
Frank's wife is still alive aged 101.
 
6.Mary (known as Polly) married Sam Sharp in N Brierley Reg. District. They
had no children
 
7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) married John Turner Hollins Hardisty in 1902. They lived
at Morley.
 
8. Samuel Harper (known as Harper) married Clara Elizabeth Lee
 
9. Rachael was born on 28 November 1878. She married William Henry Hunnebell in
29 April 1904 at Farsley Wesleyan Methodist Church. She had two children, Mabel
born 12 April 1906 and Leonard born 1908. Mabel never married but lived in the
family home at 25, Red Lane until her death when she was well over 80 years of
age. 
Raechel died on 26 May 1963
 
10. Ethel married Walter Wilcox in 1904. They lived at 21 red lane
 
11. Joseph Petty Overend died on 1 April 1983. He had lived at Great Wood Farm,
Farsley.
 
Where do you fit into the family tree?
 
MC


--- On Mon, 26/5/08, G Overend <gilldoc@...> wrote:

From: G Overend <gilldoc@...>
Subject: RE: Overends of Farsley
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 26 May, 2008, 6:50 PM






Hi MC,

Sorry for the delay in replying, blame the day-job and I wanted to revisit
the census and BMD data and look at Matthew and Mary Ann's marriage in the
Calverley records. As well as using the Calverley church some Overends used
the parish churches in Leeds or Bradford, and later Farsley got its own
parish church. There was also an active Baptist church for many years in
Farsley

There were several Samuel Overends of similar age, two in Farsley and I had
not been sure which married Mary Harper but I feel certain you are correct.
Mary Ann was christened in Bradford but there was Elizabeth Harper Overend
entered in the Farsley Baptist records in 1828 who may have been a sibling
for William and Mary Ann. I could not find her in any census records so she
must have died before 1841.

I looked at the marriage of Matthew and Mary Ann on 1st April 1839 at
Calverley. Matthew is listed as 22, bachelor, a clothier, and signed his
name. Mary Ann is listed as 20, a spinster, and made her mark. Both were
resident in Farsley which is not much help. Their father John and Samuel are
both listed as clothiers which was the most common occupation in the area at
that time. The witnesses were William Overend, ?Mary Ann's brother, and
David Threapleton. (Both signed their names.) There is no birth or baptism
record for Matthew Overend but the name of the witness and that there were
not many other John's having children in the area at that time led me to
John Overend and Susanna Threapleton and there is a gap in their large
family at the time Matthew was born.

Here is what I have about John and Susanna with Matthew included:

Name: John Overend Mr

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

Birth Date: 1791

Christen Date: 12 Jan 1792 Age: 1

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Death Date: 12 May 1872 Age: 81

Death Place: Farsley

Burial Date: 15 May 1872 Age: 81

Burial Place: Calverley

Father: Benjamin Overend Mr (1740-1821)

Mother: Rebecca Ross Miss (1745-1812)

Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1815

Marriage Place: Leeds Parish Church, St Peter

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

Spouse: Susanna Threapleton Miss

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

Birth Date: 1795

Death Date: 14 Dec 1855 Age: 60

Death Place: Farsley

Burial Date: 18 Dec 1855 Age: 60

Burial Place: Calverley

Christen Date: 20 Apr 1795

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Father: George Threapleton

Children:

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

1 M: James Overend Mr

Birth Date: 1815

Christen Date: 1815

Christen Place: Bradford Parish Church

Death Date: 17 Dec 1899 Age: 84

Burial Place: Farsley Baptist

Spouse: Martha Hainsworth

Marriage Date: 2 Mar 1835

Marriage Place: Leeds Parish Church, St Peter

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

2 M: Matthew Overend Mr

Birth Date: 1816

Death Date: 1900 Age: 84

Spouse: Mary Ann Overend Miss

Marriage Date: 1 Apr 1839

Marriage Place: Calverley

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

3 F: Martha Overend Miss

Birth Date: 1817

Christen Date: 1817

Christen Place: Bradford Parish Church

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

4 F: Rebecca Overend Miss

Birth Date: 1819

Christen Date: 1819

Christen Place: Bradford Parish Church

Death Date: 1897 Age: 78

Spouse: Joseph Schofield

Marriage Date: 1843

Marriage Place: Bradford

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

5 F: Sarah Overend

Birth Date: 1820

Christen Date: 14 Jan 1821 Age: 1

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Spouse: James Whitaker

Marriage Date: 1847

Marriage Place: Leeds PC St Peter

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

6 F: Hannah Overend (Died as Infant)

Birth Date: Apr 1824

Death Date: Feb 1825

Death Place: Farsley

Burial Date: 13 Feb 1825

Burial Place: Calverley

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

7 M: Joseph Overend Mr

Christen Date: 8 Jan 1826 Age: 1

Christen Place: Calverley

Birth Date: 1825

Birth Place: Farsley

Spouse: Sarah Ann Holliday

Marriage Date: 1853

Marriage Place: Leeds PC St Peter

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

8 F: Ann Overend

Christen Date: 26 Oct 1828

Christen Place: Calverley

Birth Date: 1828

Spouse: George Wheater Waite

Marriage Date: 1850

Marriage Place: Leeds PC St Peter

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

9 F: Elizabeth Overend Miss (Died as Child)

Christen Date: 3 Mar 1831

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Birth Date: 1831

Death Date: Sep 1844 Age: 13

Burial Date: 27 Sep 1844 Age: 13

Burial Place: Calverely

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

10 F: Jane Overend Miss

Christen Date: 8 May 1833

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Birth Date: 1833

Death Date: 1875 Age: 42

Spouse: John Dowgill

Marriage Date: 1855

Marriage Place: Bradford

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

11 F: Mary Overend Miss

Christen Date: 1 May 1835

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Birth Date: 1835

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

12 F: Ellen Overend Miss

Christen Date: 1838

Christen Place: Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Death Date: 31 Oct 1911 Age: 73

Death Place: Rodley

Burial Place: Calverley

Birth Date: 1838

Spouse: Joshua Wilby Mr

------------ --------- --------- --------- -

Last Modified: 17 May 2008

Created: 26 May 2008

Best wishes,

Gillian

From: overend@yahoogroups .com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
carrier_mj
Sent: 23 May 2008 19:51
To: overend@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: Overends of Farsley

Hi Gillian, Hope you will reply to my last query. I would love to
know your source of the marriage of John Overend and Susannah
Threapleton. Would be really grateful for this info.

MC

--- In overend@yahoogroups .com <mailto:overend% 40yahoogroups. com> ,
"carrier_mj" <carrier_mj@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gillian,
> My grandmother was Susannah Overend who married Joseph Henry
Rawnsley
> on 14 October 1891. Susannah was the oldest child of Daniel Overend
> and Grace Ann Petty. One of Susannah's brothers was called Joseph
> Harper Overend, The name Harper comes from his great grandmother,
> Mary Harper who married Samuel Overend on 14 October 1811.
>
> How did you discover the marriage of John Overend 1791-1872 and
> Susannah Threapleton? I haven't been able to locate it. There are a
> lot of Threapleton marriages in the Calverly registers at the
> beginning of the 19th century but I haven't found a reference to a
> Susannah.
> Yes , you are quite right about Daniel (1841) having three
children.
> I wonder if there were others that we haven't yet found.
>
> MC
>
> --- In overend@yahoogroups .com <mailto:overend% 40yahoogroups. com>
, "G
Overend" <gilldoc@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear MC,
> >
> > My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of
Farsley.
> I live in
> > Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley.
Perhaps
> you would
> > like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.
> >
> > I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I
> believe his
> > parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary
> Ann
> > Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).
> >
> > I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann, a daughter
Eliza
> or
> > Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841
and
> > Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?
> >
> > Gillian
> >
> >
> >
> > From: overend@yahoogroups .com <mailto:overend% 40yahoogroups.
com>
[mailto:overend@yahoogroups .com <mailto:overend% 40yahoogroups. com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > carrier_mj
> > Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
> > To: overend@yahoogroups .com <mailto:overend% 40yahoogroups.
com>
> > Subject: Overends of Farsley
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary
Ann
> nee
> > Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
> > Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I
> think
> > his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing
his
> > ancestors.
> > Thanks in anticipation.
> > MC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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Hi again MC,

Here is what I have on Daniel Overend:



Name:          Daniel Overend

----------------------------------------

Birth Date:    1841

Occupation:    Farmer and Milk Dealer 2 acres, Market Gardener

Father:        Matthew Overend Mr (1816-1900)

Mother:        Mary Ann Overend Miss (1821-)

Marriage Marriage Date:       1863

Place:         Bradford

----------------------------------------

Spouse:        Grace Ann Petty

----------------------------------------

Birth Date:    1843/4

Birth Place:   Farsley



Children:

----------------------------------------

1 F:           Susannah Overend

Birth Date:    1864

Birth Place:   Farsley

Spouse:        Joseph Henry Rawnsley

Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1891

Marriage Place:               Calverley

----------------------------------------

2 M:           Randolph Overend

Birth Date:    1866

Birth Place:   Farsley

Spouse:        Alice Keighley

Marriage Date: 1894

Marriage Place:               Calverley

----------------------------------------

3 F:           Fanny Overend

Birth Date:    1868

Birth Place:   Farsley

----------------------------------------

4 F:           Florence Overend

Birth Date:    1872

Birth Place:   Farsley

Spouse:        Arthur Busfield

Marriage Date: 1896

Marriage Place:               Calverley

----------------------------------------

5 F:           Mary Overend

Birth Date:    1873

Birth Place:   Farsley

----------------------------------------

6 F:           Elizabeth Overend

Birth Date:    1875

Birth Place:   Farsley

----------------------------------------

7 M:           Samuel Harper Overend

Birth Date:    1876

Birth Place:   Farsley

Spouse:        Clara E Lee

Marriage Date: 1901

Marriage Place:               Calverely

----------------------------------------

8 F:           Rachael Overend

Birth Date:    1878

Birth Place:   Farsley

Spouse:        William Henry Hunnebell

Marriage Date: 1905

Marriage Place:               Farsley Methodist

----------------------------------------

9 F:           Ethel Overend

Birth Date:    Jun 1880

Birth Place:   Farsley

----------------------------------------

10 M:          Joseph Petty Overend

Birth Date:    1882

Spouse:        Sarah Proctor

Marriage Date: 1907

Marriage Place:               Calverley



----------------------------------------

Last Modified: 16 May 2008

Created:       26 May 2008



Do you think this is correct? I was unable to find Susannah and Joseph Henry
Rawnsley in 1901 and wondered where they got to.

Gillian



From: overend@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
carrier_mj
Sent: 23 May 2008 19:51
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Overends of Farsley



Hi Gillian, Hope you will reply to my last query. I would love to
know your source of the marriage of John Overend and Susannah
Threapleton. Would be really grateful for this info.

MC

--- In overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"carrier_mj" <carrier_mj@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gillian,
> My grandmother was Susannah Overend who married Joseph Henry
Rawnsley
> on 14 October 1891. Susannah was the oldest child of Daniel Overend
> and Grace Ann Petty. One of Susannah's brothers was called Joseph
> Harper Overend, The name Harper comes from his great grandmother,
> Mary Harper who married Samuel Overend on 14 October 1811.
>
> How did you discover the marriage of John Overend 1791-1872 and
> Susannah Threapleton? I haven't been able to locate it. There are a
> lot of Threapleton marriages in the Calverly registers at the
> beginning of the 19th century but I haven't found a reference to a
> Susannah.
> Yes , you are quite right about Daniel (1841) having three
children.
> I wonder if there were others that we haven't yet found.
>
> MC
>
> --- In overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> , "G
Overend" <gilldoc@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear MC,
> >
> > My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of
Farsley.
> I live in
> > Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley.
Perhaps
> you would
> > like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.
> >
> > I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I
> believe his
> > parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary
> Ann
> > Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).
> >
> > I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann, a daughter
Eliza
> or
> > Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841
and
> > Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?
> >
> > Gillian
> >
> >
> >
> > From: overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > carrier_mj
> > Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
> > To: overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Overends of Farsley
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary
Ann
> nee
> > Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
> > Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I
> think
> > his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing
his
> > ancestors.
> > Thanks in anticipation.
> > MC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi again MC,

Id this correct about Matthew and Mary Ann?



Name:          Matthew Overend Mr

----------------------------------------

Birth Date:    1816

Death Date:    1900 Age: 84

Occupation:    Woollen Cloth Weaver

Father:        John Overend Mr (1791-1872)

Mother:        Susanna Threapleton Miss (1795-1855)

Marriage Date: 1 Apr 1839

Marriage Place:               Calverley

----------------------------------------

Spouse:        Mary Ann Overend Miss

----------------------------------------

Christen Date: 22 Apr 1821

Christen Place:               Bradford Parish Church

Birth Date:    1821

Birth Date:    1821

Christen Date: 22 Apr 1821

Christen Place:               Bradford

Father:        Samuel Overend (1790-)

Mother:        Mary Harper



Children:

----------------------------------------

1 F:           Eliza/Elizabeth Overend

Birth Date:    1839

Spouse:        James Hustler

Marriage Date: 1860

----------------------------------------

2 M:           Daniel Overend

Birth Date:    1841

Spouse:        Grace Ann Petty

Marriage Date: 1863

Marriage Place:               Bradford

----------------------------------------

3 M:           Frederick Overend

Birth Date:    1852

Spouse:        (H)Anna(h) Maria Hollings

Marriage Date: 1881



----------------------------------------

Last Modified: 8 Jul 2006

Created:       26 May 2008



My grandfather was James Overend, born in Bramley in 1874. His parents were
James Overend and Martha Farrar, married at Calvereley. James Overend senior
was christened at Calverley in 1832 but the parish register records that he
was born in 1830. James' parents were  Nathan Overend born about 1800 and
Elizabeth Harrison who lived in Stanningley with their large family. By 1851
Nathan has remarried to a widow Martha Parker and they have one child
together. On the certificate for his second marriage Nathan gave his
father's name as Nathan.

Best wishes,

Gillian



From: overend@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
carrier_mj
Sent: 23 May 2008 19:51
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Overends of Farsley



Hi Gillian, Hope you will reply to my last query. I would love to
know your source of the marriage of John Overend and Susannah
Threapleton. Would be really grateful for this info.

MC

--- In overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"carrier_mj" <carrier_mj@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gillian,
> My grandmother was Susannah Overend who married Joseph Henry
Rawnsley
> on 14 October 1891. Susannah was the oldest child of Daniel Overend
> and Grace Ann Petty. One of Susannah's brothers was called Joseph
> Harper Overend, The name Harper comes from his great grandmother,
> Mary Harper who married Samuel Overend on 14 October 1811.
>
> How did you discover the marriage of John Overend 1791-1872 and
> Susannah Threapleton? I haven't been able to locate it. There are a
> lot of Threapleton marriages in the Calverly registers at the
> beginning of the 19th century but I haven't found a reference to a
> Susannah.
> Yes , you are quite right about Daniel (1841) having three
children.
> I wonder if there were others that we haven't yet found.
>
> MC
>
> --- In overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> , "G
Overend" <gilldoc@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear MC,
> >
> > My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of
Farsley.
> I live in
> > Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley.
Perhaps
> you would
> > like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.
> >
> > I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I
> believe his
> > parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary
> Ann
> > Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).
> >
> > I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann, a daughter
Eliza
> or
> > Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841
and
> > Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?
> >
> > Gillian
> >
> >
> >
> > From: overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > carrier_mj
> > Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
> > To: overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Overends of Farsley
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary
Ann
> nee
> > Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
> > Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I
> think
> > his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing
his
> > ancestors.
> > Thanks in anticipation.
> > MC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I would be delighted if you could tell me your source regarding Susan
Threapleton being the wife of John Overend 1791 - 1872. I could let you have
further details of the Overend family.

MC
 

--- On Thu, 15/5/08, G Overend <gilldoc@...> wrote:

From: G Overend <gilldoc@...>
Subject: RE: Overends of Farsley
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 15 May, 2008, 12:21 AM






Dear MC,

My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of Farsley. I live in
Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley. Perhaps you would
like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.

I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I believe his
parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary Ann
Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).

I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann, a daughter Eliza or
Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841 and
Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?

Gillian

From: overend@yahoogroups .com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
carrier_mj
Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
To: overend@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Overends of Farsley

I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary Ann nee
Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I think
his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing his
ancestors.
Thanks in anticipation.
MC

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Hi MC,

Sorry for the delay in replying, blame the day-job and I wanted to revisit
the census and BMD data and look at Matthew and Mary Ann's marriage in the
Calverley records. As well as using the Calverley church some Overends used
the parish churches in Leeds or Bradford, and later Farsley got its own
parish church. There was also an active Baptist church for many years in
Farsley

There were several Samuel Overends of similar age, two in Farsley and I had
not been sure which married Mary Harper but I feel certain you are correct.
Mary Ann was christened in Bradford but there was Elizabeth Harper Overend
entered in the Farsley Baptist records in 1828 who may have been a sibling
for William and Mary Ann. I could not find her in any census records so she
must have died before 1841.

I looked at the marriage of Matthew and Mary Ann on 1st April 1839 at
Calverley. Matthew is listed as 22, bachelor, a clothier, and signed his
name. Mary Ann is listed as 20, a spinster, and made her mark. Both were
resident in Farsley which is not much help. Their father John and Samuel are
both listed as clothiers which was the most common occupation in the area at
that time. The witnesses were William Overend, ?Mary Ann's brother, and
David Threapleton. (Both signed their names.) There is no birth or baptism
record for Matthew Overend  but the name of the witness and that there were
not many other John's having children in the area at that time led me to
John Overend and Susanna Threapleton and there is a gap in their large
family at the time Matthew was born.

Here is what I have about John and Susanna with Matthew included:





Name:          John Overend Mr

----------------------------------------

Birth Date:    1791

Christen Date: 12 Jan 1792 Age: 1

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Death Date:    12 May 1872 Age: 81

Death Place:   Farsley

Burial Date:   15 May 1872 Age: 81

Burial Place:  Calverley

Father:        Benjamin Overend Mr (1740-1821)

Mother:        Rebecca Ross Miss (1745-1812)

Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1815

Marriage Place:               Leeds Parish Church, St Peter

----------------------------------------

Spouse:        Susanna Threapleton Miss

----------------------------------------

Birth Date:    1795

Death Date:    14 Dec 1855 Age: 60

Death Place:   Farsley

Burial Date:   18 Dec 1855 Age: 60

Burial Place:  Calverley

Christen Date: 20 Apr 1795

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Father:        George Threapleton



Children:

----------------------------------------

1 M:           James Overend Mr

Birth Date:    1815

Christen Date: 1815

Christen Place:               Bradford Parish Church

Death Date:    17 Dec 1899 Age: 84

Burial Place:  Farsley Baptist

Spouse:        Martha Hainsworth

Marriage Date: 2 Mar 1835

Marriage Place:               Leeds Parish Church, St Peter

----------------------------------------

2 M:           Matthew Overend Mr

Birth Date:    1816

Death Date:    1900 Age: 84

Spouse:        Mary Ann Overend Miss

Marriage Date: 1 Apr 1839

Marriage Place:               Calverley

----------------------------------------

3 F:           Martha Overend Miss

Birth Date:    1817

Christen Date: 1817

Christen Place:               Bradford Parish Church

----------------------------------------

4 F:           Rebecca Overend Miss

Birth Date:    1819

Christen Date: 1819

Christen Place:               Bradford Parish Church

Death Date:    1897 Age: 78

Spouse:        Joseph Schofield

Marriage Date: 1843

Marriage Place:               Bradford

----------------------------------------

5 F:           Sarah Overend

Birth Date:    1820

Christen Date: 14 Jan 1821 Age: 1

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Spouse:        James Whitaker

Marriage Date: 1847

Marriage Place:               Leeds PC St Peter

----------------------------------------

6 F:           Hannah Overend (Died as Infant)

Birth Date:    Apr 1824

Death Date:    Feb 1825

Death Place:   Farsley

Burial Date:   13 Feb 1825

Burial Place:  Calverley

----------------------------------------

7 M:           Joseph Overend Mr

Christen Date: 8 Jan 1826 Age: 1

Christen Place:               Calverley

Birth Date:    1825

Birth Place:   Farsley

Spouse:        Sarah Ann Holliday

Marriage Date: 1853

Marriage Place:               Leeds PC St Peter

----------------------------------------

8 F:           Ann Overend

Christen Date: 26 Oct 1828

Christen Place:               Calverley

Birth Date:    1828

Spouse:        George Wheater Waite

Marriage Date: 1850

Marriage Place:               Leeds PC St Peter

----------------------------------------

9 F:           Elizabeth Overend Miss (Died as Child)

Christen Date: 3 Mar 1831

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Birth Date:    1831

Death Date:    Sep 1844 Age: 13

Burial Date:   27 Sep 1844 Age: 13

Burial Place:  Calverely

----------------------------------------

10 F:          Jane Overend Miss

Christen Date: 8 May 1833

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Birth Date:    1833

Death Date:    1875 Age: 42

Spouse:        John Dowgill

Marriage Date: 1855

Marriage Place:               Bradford

----------------------------------------

11 F:          Mary Overend Miss

Christen Date: 1 May 1835

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Birth Date:    1835

----------------------------------------

12 F:          Ellen Overend Miss

Christen Date: 1838

Christen Place:               Farsley Rehoboth Particular Baptist

Death Date:    31 Oct 1911 Age: 73

Death Place:   Rodley

Burial Place:  Calverley

Birth Date:    1838

Spouse:        Joshua Wilby Mr



----------------------------------------

Last Modified: 17 May 2008

Created:       26 May 2008



Best wishes,

Gillian









From: overend@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
carrier_mj
Sent: 23 May 2008 19:51
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Overends of Farsley



Hi Gillian, Hope you will reply to my last query. I would love to
know your source of the marriage of John Overend and Susannah
Threapleton. Would be really grateful for this info.

MC

--- In overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"carrier_mj" <carrier_mj@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gillian,
> My grandmother was Susannah Overend who married Joseph Henry
Rawnsley
> on 14 October 1891. Susannah was the oldest child of Daniel Overend
> and Grace Ann Petty. One of Susannah's brothers was called Joseph
> Harper Overend, The name Harper comes from his great grandmother,
> Mary Harper who married Samuel Overend on 14 October 1811.
>
> How did you discover the marriage of John Overend 1791-1872 and
> Susannah Threapleton? I haven't been able to locate it. There are a
> lot of Threapleton marriages in the Calverly registers at the
> beginning of the 19th century but I haven't found a reference to a
> Susannah.
> Yes , you are quite right about Daniel (1841) having three
children.
> I wonder if there were others that we haven't yet found.
>
> MC
>
> --- In overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> , "G
Overend" <gilldoc@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear MC,
> >
> > My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of
Farsley.
> I live in
> > Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley.
Perhaps
> you would
> > like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.
> >
> > I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I
> believe his
> > parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary
> Ann
> > Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).
> >
> > I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann, a daughter
Eliza
> or
> > Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841
and
> > Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?
> >
> > Gillian
> >
> >
> >
> > From: overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > carrier_mj
> > Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
> > To: overend@yahoogroups.com <mailto:overend%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Overends of Farsley
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary
Ann
> nee
> > Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
> > Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I
> think
> > his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing
his
> > ancestors.
> > Thanks in anticipation.
> > MC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Gillian, Hope you will reply to my last query. I would love to
know your source of the marriage of John Overend and Susannah
Threapleton. Would be really grateful for this info.

MC



--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, "carrier_mj" <carrier_mj@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gillian,
> My grandmother was Susannah Overend who married Joseph Henry
Rawnsley
> on 14 October 1891. Susannah was the oldest child of Daniel Overend
> and Grace Ann Petty. One of Susannah's brothers was called Joseph
> Harper Overend, The name Harper comes from his great grandmother,
> Mary Harper who married Samuel Overend on 14 October 1811.
>
> How did you discover the marriage of John Overend 1791-1872 and
> Susannah Threapleton? I haven't been able to locate it. There are a
> lot of Threapleton marriages in the Calverly registers at the
> beginning of the 19th century but I haven't found a reference to a
> Susannah.
> Yes , you are quite right about Daniel (1841) having three
children.
> I wonder if there were others that we haven't yet found.
>
> MC
>
> --- In overend@yahoogroups.com, "G Overend" <gilldoc@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear MC,
> >
> > My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of
Farsley.
> I live in
> > Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley.
Perhaps
> you would
> > like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.
> >
> > I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I
> believe his
> > parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary
> Ann
> > Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).
> >
> > I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann,  a daughter
Eliza
> or
> > Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841
and
> > Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?
> >
> > Gillian
> >
> >
> >
> > From: overend@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > carrier_mj
> > Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
> > To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Overends of Farsley
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary
Ann
> nee
> > Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
> > Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I
> think
> > his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing
his
> > ancestors.
> > Thanks in anticipation.
> > MC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi Gillian,
My grandmother was Susannah Overend who married Joseph Henry Rawnsley
on 14 October 1891. Susannah was the oldest child of Daniel Overend
and Grace Ann Petty. One of Susannah's brothers was called Joseph
Harper Overend, The name Harper comes from his great grandmother,
Mary Harper who married Samuel Overend on 14 October 1811.

How did you discover the marriage of John Overend 1791-1872 and
Susannah Threapleton? I haven't been able to locate it. There are a
lot of Threapleton marriages in the Calverly registers at the
beginning of the 19th century but I haven't found a reference to a
Susannah.
Yes , you are quite right about Daniel (1841) having three children.
I wonder if there were others that we haven't yet found.

MC

--- In overend@yahoogroups.com, "G Overend" <gilldoc@...> wrote:
>
> Dear MC,
>
> My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of Farsley.
I live in
> Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley. Perhaps
you would
> like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.
>
> I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I
believe his
> parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary
Ann
> Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).
>
> I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann,  a daughter Eliza
or
> Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841 and
> Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?
>
> Gillian
>
>
>
> From: overend@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> carrier_mj
> Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
> To: overend@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Overends of Farsley
>
>
>
> I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary Ann
nee
> Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
> Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I
think
> his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing his
> ancestors.
> Thanks in anticipation.
> MC
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Dear MC,

My name is Gillian Overend and I descend from Overends of Farsley. I live in
Bradford, Yorkshire, not too many miles away from Farsley. Perhaps you would
like to introduce yourself to the group a bit more.

I have never found a birth or baptism record for Matthew but I believe his
parents were John Overend 1791-1872 and Susanna Threapleton. Mary Ann
Overend's parents were Samuel Overend and Mary (surname unknown).

I have found 3 children for Matthew and Mary Ann,  a daughter Eliza or
Elizabeth, born 1839 or 1840, and 2 sons, Daniel born about 1841 and
Frederick born about 1852. Is this correct?

Gillian



From: overend@yahoogroups.com [mailto:overend@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
carrier_mj
Sent: 14 May 2008 15:51
To: overend@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Overends of Farsley



I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary Ann nee
Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I think
his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing his
ancestors.
Thanks in anticipation.
MC





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have a family photograph of Matthew Overend who married Mary Ann nee
Overend. He was born about 1817. They lived in Turner House (1851
Census) and in 1871 at 25, Red Lane, Farsley. He died in 1900. I think
his father's name was John but would appreciate help in tracing his
ancestors.
Thanks in anticipation.
MC