Future basis for legally persecuting Christians here, the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (Defense Authorization Act.). Read at the bottom...
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aggreen1
Oct 3, 2004 3:53 am
... ***Nicholas, this question sounds a little presumptuous. There is only one True Church which holds all of the truths revealed by God. But, there are other...
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 4, 2004 3:14 am
NO! If one is not a member of the "ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CHURCH" then one is OUTSIDE the church and therefore not a Christians. Sure there are Protestants, Roman...
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Fr. John Whiteford
frjohnwhiteford
Oct 5, 2004 3:18 am
Nicholas Trahan wrote: "NO! If one is not a member of the "ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CHURCH" then one is OUTSIDE the church and therefore not a Christians. Sure there...
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aggreen1
Oct 5, 2004 12:23 pm
***Wow! Powerful words from Fr. Seraphim Rose, someone far wiser and insightful than am I. Thanks for posting his most poignant words. Al ... attitude ... has ...
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aggreen1
Oct 5, 2004 12:25 pm
***Allow me to respectfully disagree. To call someone who follows Christ not a Christian is silly. there are true Christians (Orthodox) and there are...
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emrys@...
maincin
Oct 5, 2004 12:52 pm
-- In orthodox-rocor@yahoogroups.com, Nicholas Trahan <ntrahan@s...> ... is OUTSIDE the church and therefore not a Christians.<< There is a danger as we wind...
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 5, 2004 2:57 pm
OK Al, help me understand....there are "true Christians" and "non-true Christians"? HEHEHEHEHE!!!! Nicholas...
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 5, 2004 2:58 pm
Father Bless! Thank you for your kind response. I am not at all adverse to those things you write. I agree that those OUTSIDE Orthodoxy have not had her...
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emrys@...
maincin
Oct 5, 2004 3:00 pm
... From: "Nicholas Trahan" <ntrahan@...> ... And then there are those in thrall to Gregory of Buena Vista! ... Georgian...
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emrys@...
maincin
Oct 5, 2004 3:04 pm
... From: "Nicholas Trahan" <ntrahan@...> <<My point is that those OUTSIDE Orthodoxy are not Christian. We can bring them to Orthodoxy and pray they...
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frraphver
Oct 5, 2004 4:03 pm
... <ntrahan@s...> wrote: My point is that those OUTSIDE Orthodoxy are not Christian. We can bring ... Catholics, or ... or any of ... Fr Raphael Vereshack: It...
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 5, 2004 6:14 pm
Father Bless! No, I am not a follower of the faux bishop is Colorado. I am a member of a ROCOR parish. my Bishop is Metroplitan Lavr. Nicholas Trahan...
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oross
orossich
Oct 5, 2004 6:15 pm
Fr. Raphael Vereshack follows the traditional Orthodox teaching and practice in his response to arrogant, un-Orthodox spill of words which are no more than "a...
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emrys@...
maincin
Oct 5, 2004 9:47 pm
... From: "Nicholas Trahan" <ntrahan@...> ... Apoplogies! I thought you were founder of Eusphrosynios Cafe which was turfed out of ROCA by, I...
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aggreen1
Oct 5, 2004 11:39 pm
<http://portal-credo.ru/site/print.php?act=news&id=27225> ROC/MP astonished by the demand of the Patriarch of Constantinople to end direct contact with Athos ...
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aggreen1
Oct 5, 2004 11:39 pm
***You got me with that one! <G> But I think you got my "true" drift! Al ... true ... Georgian ... (Orthodox) ... not ... <ntrahan@s...> ... then ... the ... ...
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aggreen1
Oct 5, 2004 11:39 pm
... those ... bring ... Catholics, or ... ***I'll still disagree. RCs and Protestants are Christians (do they follow a false Christ?) but do not have the whole...
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aggreen1
Oct 6, 2004 12:06 am
<http://portal-credo.ru/site/print.php?act=news&id=27225> ROC/MP astonished by the demand of the Patriarch of Constantinople to end direct contact with Athos ...
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Paul O. BARTLETT
bartlett22183
Oct 6, 2004 1:05 am
... Indeed, there are Protestants who say that Roman Catholics are not Christians. Such people seem to know little about Orthodoxy, but I would not at all be...
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 6, 2004 2:59 am
The Canons of the Council of Laodicea forbid Orthodox to pray with non-Orthodox. Because these people are OUTSIDE of the True Church they ARENOT CHRISTIAN....
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 6, 2004 2:59 am
Fr. Bless! The founder of the cafe left of his own accord fully aware that he was entering into a cult and might have to drink the kool-aid someday. I ...
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Benjamin William Cham...
benjaminwate...
Oct 6, 2004 11:13 am
Well my Dear Nicholas, I have just read the canons and I fail to find the canon that states "Because these people are OUTSIDE of the True Church they ARENOT...
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Dimitra Dwelley
ochichernie2
Oct 6, 2004 2:34 pm
Therefore, we can dispense with the adjective "Orthodox"; in front of the word "Christian"? I think the Saviour's two, diametrically opposed sayings, give a...
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Nicholas Trahan
skipishere
Oct 6, 2004 3:24 pm
That's not what the canons say. The 22nd and 23rd Canons of the Council of Laodicea state we are forbidden to pray with Non-Orthodox. If a person is OUTSIDE...
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Fr. John Whiteford
frjohnwhiteford
Oct 6, 2004 3:33 pm
Documents. The decision of the Bishops' Council of the Russian Orthodox Church on the Relations with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia The Bishops'...
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Fr. John Whiteford
frjohnwhiteford
Oct 6, 2004 3:34 pm
This document is too large to post, but you can read it at: http://www.mospat.ru/text/e_news/id/7815.html ===== ...
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Fr. John Whiteford
frjohnwhiteford
Oct 6, 2004 3:36 pm
This is also too large to post, but can be read at: http://www.mospat.ru/text/e_news/id/7814.html ===== ...
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aggreen1
Oct 7, 2004 1:52 am
"Taken by themselves, the canon laws of the Church can be misleading and frustrating, and therefore superficial. People will say 'either enforce them all or...
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aggreen1
Oct 7, 2004 1:52 am
... they ... ***Didn't this council deal with praying with those Orthodox who left the Church and were considered heretics? ***Where exactly, as a communicant...
