Dear fellow list members: My small mission is attempting it's first Reader's Vespers this week on the Eve of Theophany (we're New Calendar). For that service,...
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Timothy Copple
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Jan 2, 2005 3:27 am
... Most menaions have the "day" start with Vespers the evening before. So, the vespers service you should use is the one listed for the feast of Theophany....
Timothy: I've enjoyed and learned from many of your posts on Orthodox Converts - but thank you especially for this post - Father is throwing stuff my way...
Thanks Timothy for the reply. I have gone through the Menaion again, and this is what I had figured out, but it's great to have this verified. 2 more...
... Joseph, Normally, there would be a Vesperal Liturgy on the 5th around mid-day (the Typikon says 1pm, iirc, but my mission parish is doing it at 11am). That...
Rdr. Joseph, Thanks for your reply. I think I have the rubrics down for Vespers now, and appreciate your and Timothy's help. We are a small mission without a...
Dear Joseph: I am not Timothy, but here is a reply: see ****below after your questions. Rdr. James Morgan also from a small mission in Olympia, WA Holy...
You would not do a vesperal typika, but just vespers. Even when a priest is serving, sometimes vespers is done apart from the liturgy, and there are rubrics in...
Fr John, Ah, there you are! :-) What would you say about the scripture readings in this case? I'd think the Epistle and Gospel would not be included, since...
You would do all the scripture readings, since this is still done even when a vesepral liturgy is not appointed (when this day fall falls on a saturday or ...
GLORY TO JESUS CHRISST - GLORY TO HIM FOREVER Dear Fr. John, This is not related to the service for Nativity, but I just wanted to THANK YOU from the bottom of...
Opps! But actually, the rubrics for Theophany eve follow the same outline, just make the following changes: Prokimenon of the day and 13 Readings of the Feast...
Father Bless! I am on new calender, so your current postings (rubrics, or the order of services outlines for Vigil and Liturgy) will, for the most part, be of...
All this discussion of order of services I feel is calling out for some much needed clarification. I am speaking now from the perspective of Slavic practice,...
Dear Reader Alexander, Thank you for a very detailed post. I could not help but think of my own parish as we have tried both and it would seem failed at both...
Dear Stephan in Ottawa 10:00 AM is actually on the late side for starting a Sunday Liturgy. Most parishes try to have Liturgy done around noon on Sunday. I...
I have noticed that when we have the vigil of Christmas and Epiphany which as you know is Great Compline with Festal Matins, there is a tendency to make short...
Christ is Baptized! (or Christ is Born! for those on the old style) Well, Stephan in Ottawa has touched on one of the proverbial problems which faces a pastor:...
I am currently assisting at the Canter's stand during most services. When I was a RCC member I was blessed as a Lector/Reader. My question is.. how does one...
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In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:05:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, avallens@... writes: people lose attentiveness from fatigue, provided they even stay for...
Thank you for your response. I agree with the need commit time. Luckily that shouldn't be an Issue. I am usually always there and so are a few others. I...
It should go without saying that the office of Reader, and the discharge of its duties, is confined to males. Regrettably, this is sometimes ignored, even at...
I wasn't aware that the Orthodox didn't have male only clerics. I would note that chanting and epistle reading has been done by women historically as well....
Well, I was going to ask a question about readers and tones, but with this attitude, I guess I won't! Yours, Bev. ... -- No virus found in this outgoing...
After going away and thinking about my last response, I come back with this: Are you being deliberatly confrontational? I have a real temptation to argue this...
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Bev wrote, in part, ... as someone who is female and who is a reader for her parish, with the permission of the priest and the bishop, ... I am very hesitant...
I'm not talking about tonsuring women as readers - but the tone of the original post was confrontational and seemed to imply that women shouldn't read *at all*...
Your Bishop considers them as equivalent to tonsured readers? Then why tonsure at all? When I was tonsured, as part of the ceremony I was also set aside for...