This list group is intended for researchers only, and is devoted to ormus-like effects observed from various non-traditional phenomena and technologies. What do I mean by “non-traditional”? Well, the traditional “old school” of the ormus world is what I call the "inorganic chemistry methods" of producing/isolating ormus substances - that is, methods which involve fire, distillation, acid/base reactions or use oxidizers. Thus, what I mean by non-traditional ormus is the realm of subtle energy effects or nutritional supplements which are "non-traditional" in that they are not produced by the aforementioned staple methods of inorganic chemistry, and rather are produced by other means, including:

· beneficial microbes, particularly EM and PNSB microbes.
· magnetite effect ormus water, aka MEOW, sometimes called "magnetic water" or "vortex water". I operate a list group devoted largely to this technology, named Ormus-PWT.
· non-contact ormus-like subtle energy effects of various ores, minerals and gems on water.
· "aetheric energy" technologies such as those with which Danae Harding (AncientTek) works, including her sparky water and some other products.
· ormus-like effects exhibited by some high-voltage technologies, which direct a spark, corona or plasma discharge through water or people.
· ormus-like subtle energy effects of various 10th+ generation cold fusion electrochemical cells.
· ormus-like effects of pyramids, cones, and spirals of wire/metallic tubing on people and water.
· the ormus-like subtle energy effects of so-called "orgone" technologies
· ormus-like effects of some forms of magnetic, electric or electromagnetic fields upon water

This list group is operated by Vinny Pinto, a degreed scientist and a mystic; I have been performing research and development in many of the above-listed fields for years, and in some of these realms since the 1970s.