"Betcha I could poke a hole in it with my BS Heretic 36." Lets see here, 19,000lbs and 3/16" steel. If you tee-boned me in the topsides and missed a frame, you...
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brentswain38@...
May 1, 2001 10:57 pm
What are the odds of hitting exactly on a frame? When the BC ferry hit the rocks in Gunboat Pass a few years ago it was only creased between the frames . It...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 2, 2001 12:20 am
A small website about Brent's boats! http://www.in2net.com/angelo/homepage.htm Alex...
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brentswain38@...
May 2, 2001 12:39 am
A heavier hull material does a lot to take the snap out of a boat's motion . A light hull with deep ballast makes for a pendulum effect with a short roll, but...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 2, 2001 12:43 am
Hello All, I think Jeff has brought up some valid points on the issue of heavier displacement vessels versus light displacement. His points are in keeping with...
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sunyataspirit@...
May 2, 2001 5:28 am
Hi Jeff, The displacement of the 36' I gave in my previous post is incorrect. I believe the correct displacement is in fact 17000 lbs. Richard...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 2, 2001 6:42 am
Hello all, Browsing the Dudley Dix site, and looking at his Dix 38 radius chine design, http://www.dixdesign.com/dix38pil.htm I was surprised and pleased to...
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burr.halpern@...
May 2, 2001 9:57 pm
Alex: One last question before going out the door. I have not see a structural plan for Mr. Swain's boats. My comments responded to the term "Frameless...
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burr.halpern@...
May 2, 2001 10:03 pm
This has been a most lively discussion and I especially appreciate that Mr. Swain took the time to respond. I am not sure how much time I will have before I...
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sunyataspirit@...
May 3, 2001 12:16 am
Hi Alex and members, I find the interaction, information and debate posted by the group to be interesting and helpful. Brents hands-on experiences and...
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burr.halpern@...
May 3, 2001 2:47 am
The next point that I would like to address is Mr. Swains comment, "Twin keels also take the roll out of a boat. They have long been used as roll dampers on...
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brentswain38@...
May 3, 2001 9:26 pm
- A friend was crossing the Atlantic in a twin keeler, and found the rolling was a fraction what it was on single keelers he'd sailed on. When he got to the...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 3, 2001 10:21 pm
Hello all, Patrick Bray Yacht design http://www.brayyachtdesign.bc.ca has an excellent treatise on twin keels well worth looking at. Ted Brewer also wrote an...
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Shelley & Foster Price
fprice@...
May 4, 2001 10:32 am
Hello Guys Some thoughts on this subject from a person who has only sailed long keel boats, and knows didly-squat about most things !! There is little doubt...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 4, 2001 6:16 pm
Hello, (Hi Foster) The twin keel question in this context is probably one of those things which is very hard to really get to the bottom of because actual use...
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brentswain38@...
May 5, 2001 10:54 pm
Making the decision of whether to go for one keel or two was one of the toughest decisions I had to make on my current boat , Having sailed her for 17 years...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 6, 2001 10:32 am
Dear group, Brent has really touched on an excellent point here about being realistic as ... endless ... I'm feeling philosophical tonight, so forgive me for...
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sunyataspirit@...
May 7, 2001 12:27 am
Hi Alex, I concur whole heartedly with the sentiments expressed in your 3a.m. musings. I don't know your age but have a sneaking feeling I'm a few years ahead...
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pan@...
May 7, 2001 2:12 am
Hi all, I have been very interested in the steel origami concept. It is very interesting. I have developed a little boat made from one sheet of plywood. I...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 7, 2001 4:20 am
Hi Richard, Thank you for your words. At the tender age of 35, I'll admit I am already feeling myself walking the slippery slope of mortality! A patch of grey...
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sunyataspirit@...
May 7, 2001 3:39 pm
Hi Les, You've done a lovely job on that little ship for your grandson. Perhaps you've laid the foundation for a future Swain fan! Regards, Richard...
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Alex Christie
ravencoast@...
May 10, 2001 5:52 am
Hi Les, Neat little boat you have put together. For another twist on the theme, have you had a look at the Origami Dinghy in the "Files" section? Made of...
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burr.halpern@...
May 10, 2001 2:07 pm
(This is a very long post so you may want to print it out for convenience) "Life too short to dance with an ugly guy". Vs. "Go ugly early"- An alternative...
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svbanshee@...
May 11, 2001 5:40 pm
Jeff, You hate steel boats; I think we get it by now :) Alot of people I know around here sail these boats. They are really happy with them and won't give...
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brentswain38@...
May 11, 2001 6:30 pm
Many of my clients are building a boat precisely because the have done it in the "bargain" fixer uppers for too long and are tired of dealing with other...
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svjennyp@...
May 11, 2001 7:11 pm
I'd be very interested in reading it. -sara-...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 11, 2001 7:55 pm
Brent's points about collisions at sea are a reminder that the possible scenarios and outcomes of collisions during offshore sailing can be very different than...
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Alex & Kim Christie
ravencoast@...
May 11, 2001 8:01 pm
Sara, Brent's book is available by mail from him directly: To order a copy of Brent's book "How to Build a Better Steel Boat a Heretic's Guide" (illus.,100...
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svjennyp@...
May 11, 2001 8:03 pm
To call a Swain boat ugly is to be in complete ignorance of the area of the world in which they were born, and of the people who build and sail them. The true...
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Alex Christie
ravencoast@...
May 11, 2001 8:31 pm
Dear Group, After reading Sara's excellent post, I have to revise what I said about coastal sailing! It isn't a walk in the park, at times, although I...
