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#537 From: "Robert Goodman" <robertdgoodmanjr@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:21 am
Subject: Textbooks
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The following school books are available for the cost of shipping them
to you.  Please let me know which ones you would be interested in,
along with your address, and I'll pass it along to the gentleman with
the books.  He approached me at our Living History museum One room
Schoolhouse desiring to donate them to our museum, but the dates are
too late for us to incorporate them.  He would like them to be used if
at all possible.

Judy

#538 From: "Robert Goodman" <robertdgoodmanjr@...>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:26 am
Subject: Textbooks list
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So sorry, I forgot to paste in the list.  Also, I will consider them
yours on a first come basis.

The New National Second Reader, Charles J. Barnes, American Book
Company, New York et.al., 1883

Steps in English, Book Two, A. C. McLean, Thos. C Blaisdell, & John
Morrow, American Book Company, New York et.al., 1903.

History of American Literature, Reuben Post Halleck, American Book
Company, New York et.al., 1911


The World's One Hundred Best Short Stories, Grant Overton, ed., Funk &
Wagnalls Company, New York, 1927
Volume One  Adventure
Volume Two  Romance
Volume Three  Mystery
Volume Four  Love
Volume Five  Drama
Volume Six  Courage
Volume Seven  Women
Volume Eight  Men
Volume Nine  Ghosts
Volume Ten  Humor


In addition, the Steps in English volume has 10+ yellow-faded-brown
hand written exercise papers in composition and/or penmanship.

#539 From: "cshmurak" <cshmurak@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:18 pm
Subject: research question
cshmurak
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Can anyone tell me about the sschool calendar for towns in Kansas in
1882-1883? Specifically, when did the school year begin and when did
it end? And what holidays or vacations were there?  If anyone can give
me some info on this, I'd really appreciate it. Anything close will do
as well: nearby states or other years in the 1880s. This is for a work
of young adult historical fiction, and I like to be as accurate as
possible. I can't find this on any websites so far.

Thank you!

Carole Shmurak
writing as Carroll Thomas

cshmurak@...

#540 From: "Philip" <lessdigits71@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:45 pm
Subject: seeking advice...
lessdigits71
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Hello Folks,
  Thanks for taking the time to read this post.
  I live in Three Oaks, Michigan,where we are fortunate to still have
2 one room schoolhouses still standing.
  West School is west of town on US hwy 12. It is small,made of
wood,and is in pretty good shape considering it's age. It is
currently an antique store.
  The second school is Spring Creek School,it is located south of town
in what is the earliest known settlement in this township.The first
school in this district was built out there in the 1840's.
  The current schoolhouse is the third built in that district,it is a
beautiful example,built of brick on a stone foundation in 1896. The
schools were consalidated in 1938,and it's use as a school ended.
  I moved to the area as a child in 1975,and it was owned by a local
chapter of the Farm Bureau group and was used for meetings until the
mid to late 1980's. No longer needed by the chapter,and facing
disrepair,the school was sold to the township for a nominal fee.
  In the 20 years that the building has been owned by the township,not
much has changed,it's roof has been redone,it's had some tuck
pointing work,and the lawn mowed, paid for with township funds. With
the help of interested volunteers two years ago , it's exterior trim
has been repainted , windows washed,and the inside swept out. It was
at that time when the volunteer group,including the township
supervisor, thought it would be nice if this building could be put
into use,such as for meetings,parties,reunions,weddings,etc. as it's
structure is still very sound,and is a beatiful landmark,with it's
original wall plaster,wood floors,wainscoting,wood trim,and chalk
boards. It still has a wood/coal burning stove/heater,and had
electric added sometime between the 1920's and 40's.
  Well,to make this building a public gathering place,it has to be
brought up to todays modern building codes,including; all new
electric,new heating,plumbing (2- A.D.A.accessible bathrooms)paved
parking for 26 cars,with 2 handicap accesible spots,an alternative
exit,with wheelchair ramp,etc. you get the idea. to accomplish this
the building would have to be gutted down to bare studs/brick ,
insulated ,then rebuilt/remodeled to meet above stated requirements.
  After seeing the design proposal, most interested parties feel that
it would be unacceptable to destroy it's intigraty,and it should be
restored,or left alone,because with little more than keeping a roof
on it,it will stand proud for another 120 years.
  Here comes the tricky part, the township supervisor has made this a
pet project,and would like to move forward (unsupported,I might add)
on the proposed renovation project,which would likely destroy
everything accept the exterior bricks. He has taken it upon himself
in a fact finding mission,to cut large holes into the stone
foundation and ceiling for inspection,to determine the type of
construction.
  I ask your opinion,and advise. Has anyone else been in such a
predicament?  Most agree,it would be nice to use this building,but
when the cost includes the loss of almost everything that gives us a
true link to our community's past,we would choose to leave it
alone,or give it to a historical society,to be properly taken care of.
  Thanks again for your time,I hope to hear from anyone willing to
share experiences,and/or advise.   Philip Mielke

#541 From: "Philip" <lessdigits71@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: seeking advice...P.S. posted photos
lessdigits71
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--- In oneroom@yahoogroups.com, "Philip" <lessdigits71@...> wrote:
>
>   Hello Folks,
>  Thanks for taking the time to read this post.
> I have posted two picture's of Spring Creek School on this groups
photo page,under Misc.
>  Thanks again for your time,I hope to hear from anyone willing to
> share experiences,and/or advise.   Philip Mielke
>

#542 From: "Fay Stone" <stonef@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:46 pm
Subject: Re:seeking advice...
stonefuwplatt
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My husband has been very active on our Town Board and they do have powers. But
it should NOT be just the Chairman who determines what gets done. I suggest you
begin to attend Town Board meetings with supporters for your cause.
I believe you are right, that remodeling would destroy the intergity of the
building. So get to your Town Board for legal action. Do they have a Planning
Commission? Get to them first and get them on your side. Usually, they recommend
to the Board itself. Board actions must be public and you will need to get on
their agenda (Thru the Town Clerk)
Talk to the other Board members privately and get their opinion. See if you can
persuade them to support your feelings. Then they can vote to stop his personal
illegal actions.
Get a reporter on the local paper to help you...nothing like publicity to shed
light & get public support.If you want to win, you have to get supporters,
publicity, and Town Board action, quickly.
Good Luck!  Fay Stone

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#543 From: "Virginia Hollowell" <vdrh@...>
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: seeking advice...P.S. posted photos
vdrhvdrh
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Some states have  "grandfathered"  their historical buildings  so  they do not
have to  "meet code" in all respects....of course there are  items that  would
be safer to have   and a ramp for wheel chairs can be placed in back  as long as
you make it assessable.....  some people think they know  what is best and say
so  when really they are not aware of  what its like to save an historical
building....just don't believe  what  everyone says till you  check with   folks
who  have  traveled this  road already.....look about and find out  who has 
done this  and  follow their  suggestions.....blessings  Jenny
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Philip
   To: oneroom@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:48 PM
   Subject: [oneroom] Re: seeking advice...P.S. posted photos


   --- In oneroom@yahoogroups.com, "Philip" <lessdigits71@...> wrote:
   >
   > Hello Folks,
   > Thanks for taking the time to read this post.
   > I have posted two picture's of Spring Creek School on this groups
   photo page,under Misc.
   > Thanks again for your time,I hope to hear from anyone willing to
   > share experiences,and/or advise. Philip Mielke
   >





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#544 From: suthoff@...
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 1:39 am
Subject: Offer of Desks
robansuefarm
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Bill Sherman asked me to forward on the following message.
Sarah Uthoff

From: Alice Johnson <alaskaalice@...>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:12:45 -0500
To: Bill & Faith Sherman <wsherman@...>
Subject: RE: School desks

Hi Bill - Thank you for calling me about the desks. I just want them
somewhere they will be appreciated in preserving the past.
I measured the single desk. It is all wood - The back is 25" tall, 24" from
back to front of desk-- the writing desk is 13" X 18"--the seat is 14" X 11"
with a 5" X 9" drawer that pulls out from the right side. Very good
condition.

The row of desks actually have 2 complete seat/desk combination with a desk
on the back of last seat and a seat in front of the front desk. The frame is
smooth black metal with a triangle cut out open in center of each leg. The
desk top does not lift up but is an open space to slide books, etc. in from
the front.
Both desk and row of desks were brought to me here in Austin in the late
1950's by my father who had spent his life in the furniture business and had
an eye for unusual things. My 3 children loved playing school with them over
the years.

My name is Alice Johnson. I live in Austin, Mn. 55912. I can be called at
507-433-7135 or emailed at alaskaalice@... for the complete address
for pick up of items if anyone is interested. I have lost most of my
eyesight and unable to drive so cannot deliver these items but would be
happy to see them given to the right home.

Thank you so much for helping me. Good luck with the Rural School Conference
this weekend.
  Alice Johnson

#545 From: Carole Shmurak <cshmurak@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 11:58 pm
Subject: Re:research question
cshmurak
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No one seemed to have the answer to my previous question about school
calendar, but I'm going to try a different question:

Does anyone know, or know where I could find out, what the curriculum would
have been like in a one room schoolhouse in Kansas or nearby states in the
1880s?

Thanks for any help.

Carole Shmurak

writing as Carroll Thomas
The Matty Trescott YA series
http://www.MattyTrescott.com

#546 From: brian osborne <itstheoz@...>
Date: Sun Oct 5, 2008 3:02 am
Subject: Re: Re: seeking advice...P.S. posted photos
itstheoz
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i moved my school house 40 miles when i went for the building permit i told him
it was a1800s school house / shed, i was told to put that on the permit to avoid
all the regulations and inspections now it is a storage shed i store black
boards, school desks, books, pot belly stove ect 

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Virginia Hollowell <vdrh@...> wrote:

From: Virginia Hollowell <vdrh@...>
Subject: Re: [oneroom] Re: seeking advice...P.S. posted photos
To: oneroom@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:50 AM






Some states have "grandfathered" their historical buildings so they do not have
to "meet code" in all respects.... of course there are items that would be safer
to have and a ramp for wheel chairs can be placed in back as long as you make it
assessable.. ... some people think they know what is best and say so when really
they are not aware of what its like to save an historical building.... just
don't believe what everyone says till you check with folks who have traveled
this road already..... look about and find out who has done this and follow
their suggestions. ....blessings Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip
To: oneroom@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: [oneroom] Re: seeking advice...P.S. posted photos

--- In oneroom@yahoogroups .com, "Philip" <lessdigits71@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hello Folks,
> Thanks for taking the time to read this post.
> I have posted two picture's of Spring Creek School on this groups
photo page,under Misc.
> Thanks again for your time,I hope to hear from anyone willing to
> share experiences, and/or advise. Philip Mielke
>

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#547 From: Michael Mescher <mmescher1@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: Re:research question
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I don't know how accurate the reference would be but Laura Ingalls Wilder
went to school and taught in a rural school in the 1880s.  You might want
to check in her books for the information that you seek.  I have been told
by several historians that they are very accurate accounts of the lives at
the time periods that she wrote about.

Also, a check on Google books might turn up something.

Virginia Mescher


At 07:58 PM 10/8/2008, you wrote:

>No one seemed to have the answer to my previous question about school
>calendar, but I'm going to try a different question:
>
>Does anyone know, or know where I could find out, what the curriculum would
>have been like in a one room schoolhouse in Kansas or nearby states in the
>1880s?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Carole Shmurak
>
>writing as Carroll Thomas
>The Matty Trescott YA series
><http://www.MattyTrescott.com>http://www.MattyTrescott.com

mmescher1@...
Visit Ragged Soldier Sutlery and
Vintage Volumes at:
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http://www.vintagevolumes.com

#548 From: Pamela Stover <pstover@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: Re:research question
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Carole,

Have you checked the Kansas One-Room School homepage?  There is a ton
of info there.

Also, I used the state rural curriculum guide from the 1920s (I
believe) when I was writing my dissertation.  Have you checked to see
if there is one available for the 1880s?  It is is little early for
such a document from the state, but it is worth a try.

There might be a nugget in the Federal Education reports or the
report of the state superintendent.

Finally, I was surprised to find that some states had the state
curriculum/schedule/calendar printed in the teacher's plan books.  I
found some in Iowa from the 1900s.  Have you checked county or state
historical societies to see if they have the reports from the County
Superintendents?

School documentation from before 1890 in the midwest is hard to
find.  I know that Paul Haack did research about Kansas in music in
one-room schools in the 1800s. I believe that he was the lead
researcher for the Kansas team on Andrew Guilford's grant project.
Much of his work was published in Guilford's "America's Country
Schools".

Just some tidbits off the top of my head that I hope will help.

All the best!

Pam Stover

On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Carole Shmurak wrote:

> No one seemed to have the answer to my previous question about school
> calendar, but I'm going to try a different question:
>
> Does anyone know, or know where I could find out, what the
> curriculum would
> have been like in a one room schoolhouse in Kansas or nearby states
> in the
> 1880s?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Carole Shmurak
>
> writing as Carroll Thomas
> The Matty Trescott YA series
> http://www.MattyTrescott.com
>
>
>
>

Dr. Pamela Stover
Coordinator of Music Education and Assistant Professor
School of Music, Southern Illinois University Carbondale--Mailcode 4302
Carbondale, Illinois 62901-4302

(618) 453-5814 (office)
(618) 453-5808 (fax)
pstover@...

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Attend the 2008 AOSA National Conference: Patschwerk of Possibilities
in Charlotte, NC November 12-15, 2008
Learn more at www.aosa.org






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#549 From: Mark L Shanks <mlshanks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:56 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 282
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Carol:

While I can not say with absolute assurance that Kansas did not have a
state-wide curriculum in the 1880s, I do know that was not the case in the early
1870s...since the research for the Old Cowtown museum suggested that this was
left to local governance.

If you are looking for a general idea as to school curriculum at the time, a
period pedigogy manuel like Kiddle, Harrison and Calkins' "How to Teach: A
Manual of Methods" (1877) or John Swett's "Methods of Teaching" (1880) might
provide a solid foundation.

Mark Shanks
mlshanks@...

#550 From: Carole Shmurak <cshmurak@...>
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: research question
cshmurak
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Thanks to all who gave me suggestions as to where to look. I'm going to
track down those sources and sites.


Carole Shmurak

writing as Carroll Thomas
The Matty Trescott YA series
http://www.MattyTrescott.com

#551 From: "robansuefarm" <suthoff@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:11 am
Subject: Grants
robansuefarm
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We were talking about grants at the Iowa workshop. As the first step
to getting a grant is knowing about it, I'd like to kick off a round
of posts were you just list any grants you've gotten and who gave
them so others on the list know to apply.

Some people didn't know that you can request copies of other
people's successful grant applications from most grant giving
organizations to get an idea of what they did that you didn't. Also,
you can volunteer to read grants for organizations (as long as you
aren't also applying that year) and get a real feeling for what they
are looking for.

Finally, I'd like to let you all know about an upcoming grants
class. I took this workshop a couple of years ago and found it
pricey, but of great value and you come away with a lot for the
money. I'll post it in the next message because it is kind of big,
FYI. Hit Delete if you are not interested.

Sarah S. Uthoff
Listmistress
suthoff@...

#552 From: "robansuefarm" <suthoff@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:13 am
Subject: Grant Class Description
robansuefarm
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The Grant Institute's Grants 101: Professional Grant Proposal
Writing Workshop will be held in Des Moines, Iowa, December 3 - 5,
2008. Interested development professionals, researchers, faculty,
and graduate students should register as soon as possible, as demand
means that seats will fill up quickly. Please forward, post, and
distribute this e-mail to your colleagues and listservs.

All participants will receive certification in professional grant
writing from the Institute. For more information call (888) 824 -
4424 or visit The Grant Institute at www.thegrantinstitute.com.

  Please find the program description below:

The Grant Institute

Grants 101: Professional Grant Proposal Writing Workshop

will be held in

Des Moines, Iowa

December 3 - 5, 2008

8:00 AM - 5:00 PM



The Grant Institute's Grants 101 course is an intensive and detailed
introduction to the process, structure, and skill of professional
proposal writing. This course is characterized by its ability to act
as a thorough overview, introduction, and refresher at the same
time. In this course, participants will learn the entire proposal
writing process and complete the course with a solid understanding
of not only the ideal proposal structure, but a holistic
understanding of the essential factors, which determine whether or
not a program gets funded. Through the completion of interactive
exercises and activities, participants will complement expert
lectures by putting proven techniques into practice. This course is
designed for both the beginner looking for a thorough introduction
and the intermediate looking for a refresher course that will
strengthen their grant acquisition skills. This class, simply put,
is designed to get results by creating professional grant proposal
writers.

  Participants will become competent program planning and proposal
writing professionals after successful completion of the Grants 101
course. In three active and informative days, students will be
exposed to the art of successful grant writing practices, and led on
a journey that ends with a masterful grant proposal.

  Grants 101 consists of three (3) courses that will be completed
during the three-day workshop.

  1) Fundamentals of Program Planning


This course is centered on the belief that "it's all about the
program." This intensive course will teach professional program
development essentials and program evaluation. While most grant
writing "workshops" treat program development and evaluation as
separate from the writing of a proposal, this class will teach
students the relationship between overall program planning and grant
writing.



(2) Professional Grant Writing

  Designed for both the novice and experienced grant writer, this
course will make each student an overall proposal writing
specialist. In addition to teaching the basic components of a grant
proposal, successful approaches, and the do's and don'ts of grant
writing, this course is infused with expert principles that will
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of this course's intent to illustrate grant writing as an
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will learn to stop writing the grant and to start writing the story.
Ultimately, this class will illustrate how each component of the
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At its foundation, this course will address the basics of
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#553 From: "Leigh Ann" <leighann@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:21 pm
Subject: RE: Grants
johctyhistscty
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Here are some of the grants we have received to help us with building,
collection, and programming projects for the Coralville School.



Iowa Country School Grant

Iowa HRDP Grant

Iowa Historic Site Preservation Grant

All of these at www.iowahistory.org



Grant through our local Pilot Club



State Questers Grant-There is an international grant as well.  They have to
be written by a Questers group who is willing to be involved with your
project but they can be for several thousand dollars and I would recommend
getting a Questers group involved with your school if you have a local
group.  They are an asset.



Grant from Gannett Foundation-I believe these are open to places with a
Gannett owned newspaper.



We also applied but didn't get a grant from

History Channel's Save Our History Program



We also recently applied so don't know result for a grant from a nearby
casino which is in the next county over.



Leigh Ann





Leigh Ann Randak

Curator

Johnson County Historical Society

319-351-5738

leighann@...

www.johnsoncountyhistory.org





From: oneroom@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oneroom@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
robansuefarm
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:12 PM
To: oneroom@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oneroom] Grants



We were talking about grants at the Iowa workshop. As the first step
to getting a grant is knowing about it, I'd like to kick off a round
of posts were you just list any grants you've gotten and who gave
them so others on the list know to apply.

Some people didn't know that you can request copies of other
people's successful grant applications from most grant giving
organizations to get an idea of what they did that you didn't. Also,
you can volunteer to read grants for organizations (as long as you
aren't also applying that year) and get a real feeling for what they
are looking for.

Finally, I'd like to let you all know about an upcoming grants
class. I took this workshop a couple of years ago and found it
pricey, but of great value and you come away with a lot for the
money. I'll post it in the next message because it is kind of big,
FYI. Hit Delete if you are not interested.

Sarah S. Uthoff
Listmistress
suthoff@... <mailto:suthoff%40mchsi.com>





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#554 From: "robansuefarm" <suthoff@...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2008 3:53 pm
Subject: Museum Education Class
robansuefarm
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If you want to develop more expertise in your work as a museum
educator and live within driving distance of Northern Illinois
University (NIU), DeKalb, Illinois, consider taking a spring semester
graduate course called MUSEUM EDUCATION.

Who is teaching the course?

Dr. Lucy Townsend, executive director of the Country School
Association of America and curator of the Blackwell History of
Education Museum, NIU.

When will the course meet?
Jan 16- May 14, Wednesdays, 6:30-9:00 p.m. on the NIU campus.

What activities will students do?
Visit area museums to analyze exhibits and programs, dialogue with
museum educators in the field, plan a museum education
program/exhibition for an imaginary or actual museum, discuss recent
publications on museum education.

For more information about museum studies at NIU, visit
http://www.clas.niu.edu/mstudies/ or phone Lucy at 815-753-1236.

#555 From: "robansuefarm" <suthoff@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Basket
robansuefarm
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One of the things I've been looking for awhile now is a documented one-
room school lunch basket. They were mentioned in ads, but never with
an image. I have finally found one documented to the 1880s.

Read more about it and see a photo on my blog.
http://trundlebedtales.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/one-room-school-lunch-
baskets/

Sarah S. Uthoff
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#556 From: "Susan" <Scfineman@...>
Date: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:28 am
Subject: Re: Basket
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--- In oneroom@yahoogroups.com, "robansuefarm" <suthoff@...> wrote:
>
> One of the things I've been looking for awhile now is a documented
one-
> room school lunch basket. They were mentioned in ads, but never with
> an image. I have finally found one documented to the 1880s.
>
> Read more about it and see a photo on my blog.
> http://trundlebedtales.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/one-room-school-lunch-
> baskets/
>
> Sarah S. Uthoff
> suthoff@...
>
Thata' a beauty. I recently purchased a lunch basket in a NH antique
store and put it in our schoolhouse just last week! I will go
photograph it next week and post a picture for you. It is not a picnic
basket since it's much smaller and seems to be designed for just about
one lunch. I'll get back to you when I get the picture.
Susan Fineman

#557 From: "Fay Stone" <stonef@...>
Date: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:54 am
Subject: Re: Basket
stonefuwplatt
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In our area of the midwest, we have never found that baskets were used for kids
school lunches, although they were used for about everything, and could have
been a lunch basket, too.

It's my personal opinion as a one room school teacher, that baskets would have
been a little bit fragile for use by small children in the rough and tumble of a
school room.

At the Sholes School Museum, we found our children of the 1890's usually used a
small lidded tin bucket, and they were called lunch buckets. Sometimes these
were formerly lard buckets.Some buckets were 'growlers' and were used to fetch
home beer from the local tavern (before cans and bottles) or for picking berries
or whatever.

There were roving tin peddlers who sold and repaired these and other tin objects
used in the home.

                                                                             Fay
Stone

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#558 From: "itstheoz" <itstheoz@...>
Date: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:01 am
Subject: 1800s chalk
itstheoz
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when i was taking my school apart to take it home i found this piece of
chalk i did alot of reserch and found out it was mined red chalk im
quite sure they smashed it up in to powder mixed it with water and put
it into a mold if im wrong or you have other information i would love
to here  from you,  when you rite with it an eraser wont erase it you
use a damp rag and it wipes right off. go into photos and look in an
album called my school and it will be in there to look at.

Brian Osborne

#559 From: daspeer@...
Date: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Basket
daspeer66
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I am new to this chat room, but I hope I can contribute and learn a lot here.

Have you heard of the Towner Bus Tragedy?  My mother was the Clara Smith the
oldest child on the bus.  Five of her classmates and the bus driver perished in
a little blue school bus that become trapped in a March 27, 1931 storm in
Southeastern Colorado.  A book written by the Colorado Historical Society,
"Children of the Storm" gives an account of that event.  One of the resources
that the authors used in writing the book was my mother's written account.

Now to baskets and lunch pails.  In Southeastern Colorado according to my
mother's writing the students brought their lunch in empty syrup cans.  I
suppose of the type that I remember in the 50's that Karo syrup used.

Regards,

Darell

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From: "Fay Stone" <stonef@...>
In our area of the midwest, we have never found that baskets were used for kids
school lunches, although they were used for about everything, and could have
been a lunch basket, too.

It's my personal opinion as a one room school teacher, that baskets would have
been a little bit fragile for use by small children in the rough and tumble of a
school room.

At the Sholes School Museum, we found our children of the 1890's usually used a
small lidded tin bucket, and they were called lunch buckets. Sometimes these
were formerly lard buckets.Some buckets were 'growlers' and were used to fetch
home beer from the local tavern (before cans and bottles) or for picking berries
or whatever.

There were roving tin peddlers who sold and repaired these and other tin objects
used in the home.

Fay Stone

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#560 From: "Brook Beta" <brooks.betz@...>
Date: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: HELP find and map all Historic One Room Schoolhouses in and around New Jersey.
Brook Beta
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A great new mapping effort. We're looking for people to post
information regarding any old one room type schoolhouses that you know
of in and around New Jersey.

Using Google Maps in a collaborative effort, it is the intention to
create a workable map whereby all historic schoolhouse preservation
efforts, program efforts, and an online network of New Jersey historic
schoolhouses can be created.

Feel free to reach out to others via comment. You can also feel free to
post or update a location on the map. We're busy posting as many of
the schoolhouses that we know and it will continue to grow.

All the details can be found at:

http://blog.t3consortium.com/?p=35 <http://blog.t3consortium.com/?p=35>

Thanks for reading.



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#561 From: suthoff@...
Date: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:11 am
Subject: Re: Re: Basket
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Let me backtrack a little, I'm not claiming that people only used baskets. In
my research on school lunch I found quite a few references to the baskets,
especially newspaper ads from the mid-to-late 19th century advertising school
lunch baskets for sale. I don't know how widely they were used as I said. Both
homemade and store bought lunch pails and metal boxes seem to be fairly common
from at least 1890 on and from first quarter of the 20th century on a high
number of people in the surveys I've collected said they used brown paper
sacks. However, while I have found plenty of images and surviving lunch pails
and boxes, but neither images or surviving baskets so I was excited to see
this one.

Sarah S. Uthoff

#562 From: "Susan" <Scfineman@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2008 2:50 am
Subject: Re: NJ Schoolhouses
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Dear BB:
I'm not sure if this is redundant information since I don't know what county
you're from, but I
just took a tour of nine schoolhouses in Burlington County sponsored by the
Colonial
Damesof NJ in Mount Holy. They have many more than that, but on the bus tour
they
provided us with a very detailed map of the school's whereabouts. You can
contact them
directly at:
www.colonialdamesnj.org. You may already have this information....or
You can read an on-line news article about the tour at:
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20081109/NEWS01/811090394&template=printart

Good Luck,
Susan Fineman
Country School Association of America
New Hampshire

#563 From: "Sarah Uthoff " <suthoff@...>
Date: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: School Consolidation in New York state
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Take a look at this article (no log-in needed). Once again the old saw is
raising its ugly head that you can consolidate your way out of any school
problem. It's a persistent thing. When consolidation fails, they say it's
because you just didn't go big enough.  The good news is that they also mention
that there is, at least for now, one active, public, one-room school in New York
and they aren't going without a fight.

http://www.27east.com/story_detail.cfm?id=184340

Sarah S. Uthoff
suthoff@...


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#564 From: jan half <jandot5@...>
Date: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:20 am
Subject: Jan Half's new email
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Effective immediately, my new email is jandot5@....  Thank you.

Jan Half, MOUSE Squad of CA (MSCA) Student Tech Program Director,
www.ca.mousesquad.org
Board Member, Educational Nonprofits
jandot5@... 650-345-6338 (phone)





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#565 From: "itstheoz" <itstheoz@...>
Date: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:04 am
Subject: mean teachers
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most older people i talked to that went to a one room school there
teacher was mean,this man i was talking to said the teacher would walk
past them at random and smack ther hand with a ruler wile they were
doing nothing wrong and the teacher would say thats what you get for
when you were doing somthing bad and i did not see you, or they would
get a beating for somthing minor the kid would go home and tell there
parents then there parents would spank them again for being bad in
school, or if they goofed off they would have to sit in the front of
the class with a dunce cap on,or stand in the corner with a stack of
books in there hands till they cryed with pain, or if they had to go to
the bathroom the teacher would tell them no you should have gone before
class started then they would wet there pants or dress, look at all the
old one room class pictures most of them all had one or two kids with
wet pants, but there was a few nice teachers kids were lucky to have
them.

#566 From: "Fay Stone" <stonef@...>
Date: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:11 pm
Subject: Re:mean teachers
stonefuwplatt
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I'm sure there were mean teachers at some time in every schoolroom, but these
are often 'tales' from the children. You can believe that unless they were
really desperate, the parents and School Board would not condone such behavior
for long. One thing about a one room school is that the whole community was very
close to what went on in the school. and they made sure it was run the way they
wanted it.

Remember, many students were forced to go when they were pretty well grown,and
often the teacher was pretty young. It may have taken a lot more discipline then
we are used to today to keep some of these kids in line so teaching could be
done. Doing all of the chores expected of a rural school teacher wasn't easy.
and may not always have inspired the best people to apply for the job!

I was a rural teacher for 30 years. and never did any of those mean things to
anyone. I also attended a one room school and was never offended by my strict
teacher.

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