Hey Gary,

     I guess I need to get the MOD done on my Icom IC-718.
What channel/Freq were you on?  Dial Freq that is!

              Steve KB6HOH in the SF Bay Area

--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, "garylinnrobinson" <grobin1949@...> wrote:
>
> Despite the fact that the A.R.R.L. wanted everyone to NOT use anything but
pactor or psk I have had 14 QSO's on the 60mtrs band since the new rules went
into effect.  While the A.R.R.L. needed clarification, I did not. I can read and
did read the actual published rules - the entire 22 page document more than 10
times.
>
> Today, about 4 hours ago the A.R.R.L. posted an article on their web site
saying the NTIA clarified that they have NO objection to hams using any
documented digital mode (which includes Olivia and most others) as long as it
fits in the 2.8khz bandwith of the channels allocated to ham radio. And as long
as we follow the published rules.
>
> I am an A.R.R.L. member and I pay for the right to give my opinions about the
A.R.R.L.  I think it was rather obvious how the NTIA felt after reading the 22
page document. I suspect the A.R.R.L. just had an agenda of their own.  Anyhow
that is my opinion BUT the fact is the NTIA gave input to the F.C.C. and the
F.C.C. tells us what to do. And they both were OK with all the modes.
>
> ---Gary WB8ROL
>

I've met quite a few of you on the air.  I just want to introduce myself to the
rest of the group.  I am that strange breed of operator who enjoys bleeding edge
as well as old school vintage electronics.  I collect tube-based
transmitters/receivers which I use for AM aka Ancient Modulation.

I also enjoy what I call the "ragchew digital modes".  I especially enjoy
OLIVIA/CONTESTIA and when I feel like QRO, Feld Hell.

I will turn 46 yrs old this summer and I have been throwing more and more OLIVIA
CQ calls out there lately.  My latest antenna is a Zero Five Multi-band ground
plane which really shines on the higher bands.

Hope to see you on the waterfall soon,

73 John KX5JT

On 4/9/2012 8:43 AM, oliviadata@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Good morning OLIVIANATI
>      From: kx5jt_john
>
>
> Message
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 1. Good morning OLIVIANATI
>      Posted by: "kx5jt_john" johndtate@... kx5jt_john
>      Date: Mon Apr 9, 2012 6:09 am ((PDT))
>
> I've met quite a few of you on the air.  I just want to introduce myself to
the rest of the group.  I am that strange breed of operator who enjoys bleeding
edge as well as old school vintage electronics.  I collect tube-based
transmitters/receivers which I use for AM aka Ancient Modulation.
>
> I also enjoy what I call the "ragchew digital modes".  I especially enjoy
OLIVIA/CONTESTIA and when I feel like QRO, Feld Hell.
>
> I will turn 46 yrs old this summer and I have been throwing more and more
OLIVIA CQ calls out there lately.  My latest antenna is a Zero Five Multi-band
ground plane which really shines on the higher bands.
>
> Hope to see you on the waterfall soon,
>
> 73 John KX5JT
>

Good to see you on the list. I work Olivia and Contestia sometimes too.
I also like working Domino but most often, I'm on PSK31 or RTTY. If I
see any Feld Hell, I'll work it, but don't always pursue it myself.

I'm running a 22 year old Kenwood TS-140S connected to a half wave open
loop antenna in my attic. Not the best, but it does work. I use FLDIGI
software and a Tigertronics Signallink SL-1+ interface.

I'll look for you on the air!


--
73,


Jonathan Helis, KB5IAV
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, U.S.A.

What are some good frequencies on 20, 17 and 15M to meet up with you fine OPs
for some Olivia, et al fun?

73... Jon W1MNK

--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, "John Tate" <johndtate@...> wrote:
>
> Good to see you on the list. I work Olivia and Contestia sometimes too.
>  I also like working Domino but most often, I'm on PSK31 or RTTY. If I
>  see any Feld Hell, I'll work it, but don't always pursue it myself.
>
>  I'm running a 22 year old Kenwood TS-140S connected to a half wave open
>  loop antenna in my attic. Not the best, but it does work. I use FLDIGI
>  software and a Tigertronics Signallink SL-1+ interface.
>
>  I'll look for you on the air!
>
>  --
>  73,
>
>  Jonathan Helis, KB5IAV
>  Baton Rouge, Louisiana, U.S.A.
>
>  Thanks Jonathan. Hey I wonder if you would be interested in trying some 160
meter OLIVIA sometime? I have never made a contact on 160 in any mode due to not
having an antenna there but I can load up what I have and I think it would be
only good for NVIS so our distance might work.
>
>  Just a thought, you might be my first 160 meter contact ever.
>
>  Anyway, FB nice meeting you.
>
>  73, John D Tate KX5JT
>  Maurice, Louisiana - EM30
>

Dean,

Thank you for the tip. I have to go out, but when I get back I think I will call
a few CQs on 20M and see what happens!!

73... Jon W1MNK

--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, Dean Hoover <kb7qdi@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
>
> I've been using the frequencies that have been suggested by this web site:
>
> http://hflink.com/olivia/
>
> I've called CQ on both 20 and 40 meters, and got responses back each time.
>
> Hope to see you there, as well.
>
> 73 de Dean KB7QDI
> Mukwonago, Wisconsin
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, w1mnk <w1mnk@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > What are some good frequencies on 20, 17 and 15M to meet up with you fine
> > OPs for some Olivia, et al fun?
> >
> > 73... Jon W1MNK
> >

TS-590S TechNote: SSB Audio Handling v1.0
=================================

I have posted a new TS-590S TechNote on the TS-590S Resources Page.

The aims of the TechNote are:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-- To summarize the many features built into the TS-590S for handling
SSB audio.

-- To dispel some of the myths and misunderstandings arising from
Kenwood's inappropriate use of the word "DATA" in its documentation.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Emphasis is on the *functionality* of the TS-590S, describing what the
radio does, rather than how to operate it. For the most part, this
document is not a HOWTO (although it does include step-by-step
instructions for setting up TX and RX audio equalizer profiles using the
ARCP-590 control program).

The TechNote also includes detailed information on how TX keying works,
insofar as how it determines which audio input the radio uses when
transmitting.

The document is a long one: 28 pages. Please take the time to read it
thoroughly. It should present a consistent picture of how this wonderful
radio works, and will hopefully clear up some of the misconceptions that
have appeared on the reflectors from time to time.

I must acknowledge the people who reviewed early drafts of the document:
Steve London (N2IC), Frank Riley (KK0K), Don Snodgrass (KG9OM), Rob
Stampfli (KD8WK), Joe Subich (W4TV) and Jose Maria Trueba (EA2JX). Their
contributions helped me turn the very rough first draft into something
much more readable. Many thanks gentlemen!

To download the TechNote, go to the TS-590S Resources Page:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

Scroll down to the "TECHNOTES" section, then click on the link:

"TS-590S TechNote: SSB Audio Handling".

As usual, if you find any errors in the document, or anything that isn't
clear, please get back to me.

--
73
Ian, G3NRW

The TS-590S Resources Page:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

When writing my SSB Audio Handling TechNote recently, I wanted to check
out some of the more well-known digital communications packages to make
sure they worked as expected. I made some brief configuration notes as I
went along, and I have now put these notes into a new HOWTO.

Go to the TS-590S Resources Page:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

Scroll down to the "HOWTOs" section, then click on the link:

"TS-590S HOWTO: Digital QuickStart"

The notes for each package are very brief, but hopefully just enough to
get started.


--
73
Ian, G3NRW

The TS-590S Resources Page:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

Hi Ian (and group)

A really neat bit of work and directly related to a subject I have been looking
at for some time ( see MixW group).

One comment though.  You dont quote which operating system it applies too.

I suspect its Windows XP.

Does it also apply to Windows 7 please?

I have all sorts of problems with W7 audio, admittedly not feeding via USB.

I am currently looking at a brand new laptop that only runs the Mic on full
volume with 'boosted' input.

All attempts to turn it off fail on reboot

Regards - Phil (G0DOR)

___Original Message_________________________________________
From: g0dor <phil.davidson@...>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012   Time: 11:46:28

>
>One comment though. You dont quote which operating system it applies
>too.
>I suspect its Windows XP.
>

Phil

Yes, the notes do apply to XP. I should have said so.

I don't have a Win7 system here at the moment, but I am planning to
purchase one soon. I will update the HOWTO when I discover how to make
Win7 audio work.

--
73
Ian, G3NRW

Hi Ian.  sri for late reply and thak you.

Regards - Phil

--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, Ian Wade G3NRW <g3nrw-radio@...> wrote:
>
> ___Original Message_________________________________________
> From: g0dor <phil.davidson@...>
> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012   Time: 11:46:28
>
> >
> >One comment though. You dont quote which operating system it applies
> >too.
> >I suspect its Windows XP.
> >
>
> Phil
>
> Yes, the notes do apply to XP. I should have said so.
>
> I don't have a Win7 system here at the moment, but I am planning to
> purchase one soon. I will update the HOWTO when I discover how to make
> Win7 audio work.
>
> --
> 73
> Ian, G3NRW
>

It seems that the original version of the TS-590S Digital QuickStart was
just a little too quick for some people! So I have now considerably
expanded it.

The main changes include:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Added explanation of VOX and CAT TX keying

*  Added MixW configuration details

*  Added VOX setup details for several packages

*  Added requirement for Fldigi TS-590S XML file
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks to everyone who contributed useful feedback.

The QuickStart is accessible through the TS-590S Resources Page:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

Scroll down to the "HOWTOs" section, then click on the link:

"TS-590S HOWTO: Digital QuickStart"

--
73
Ian, G3NRW

The TS-590S Resources Page:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

The TS-990S Resources Page:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-990.htm

I check 7.072 quite often and rarely do I hear any Olivia activity. Has the mode
died off lately?

I check the frequency, call CQ and never get any replies. A year ago there would
always be someone listening or having a QSO. Same goes for 80 meters.

I know JT65 has really caught on with many of us, I operate that mode a lot. But
I do that because of the lack of Olivia activity.

Maybe it is due to the fact I am not on the air at the right time of day. But I
am in the shack often between 8-10 PM EST and as I said I never run across any
activity on Olivia.

It is no fault of my station, I can work VK Stations on 40 JT65.

We need more Olivia Ops!

73, Rick VE3FMC

I haven't been too active but it seems to me that digital activity in general
has dropped off a lot since a year ago!   7.036, 30m, 20m, there doesn't seem to
be very much digital activity at all.  It's not just Olivia, it's all digital
modes, even PSK31.

Ken WA8JXM


On May 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, VE3FMC wrote:

> I check 7.072 quite often and rarely do I hear any Olivia activity. Has the
mode died off lately?
>
> I check the frequency, call CQ and never get any replies. A year ago there
would always be someone listening or having a QSO. Same goes for 80 meters.
>
> I know JT65 has really caught on with many of us, I operate that mode a lot.
But I do that because of the lack of Olivia activity.
>
> Maybe it is due to the fact I am not on the air at the right time of day. But
I am in the shack often between 8-10 PM EST and as I said I never run across any
activity on Olivia.
>
> It is no fault of my station, I can work VK Stations on 40 JT65.
>
> We need more Olivia Ops!
>
> 73, Rick VE3FMC

20mtrs is still quite active with Olivia but 30mtrs and below seems to be dead quite often. Part of it is seasonal and the higher noise level that comes with warm weather. And even last winter never really got real quiet. Add in the fact that many ops also started using 10/12/15mtrs a lot last winter and spring, too since cycle 24 perked up for a while.

40mtrs in particular sounds like a graveyard many hours of the day and night. Not just digital either. Phone operation seems anemic too.
Still, the biggest reason is just higher noise levels and all the storms across the country.

Gary WB8ROL

All,

I believe it would help if activity were centered on these proposed frequencies:
http://hflink.com/olivia/

instead of going on a hunt for some Olivia. Until now, I never found activity on
these frequencies although I tried often. Only Olivia I ever found was going
hunting with the waterfall display or reviewing cluster spot announcements.

Since you all also noticed a paucity of activity, how about we take this as an
invitation to center our activities on these proposed frequencies? Would love to
meet you there at the weekend!

vy 73 de Marcus KD0JKM

As far as I can tell, those are some very old frequencies that nobody uses, at
least on 40m.   And that "bandplan" hasn't been updated since U.S. 60m rules
have been changed.

73,
Ken WA8JXM

On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Marcus wrote:

> All,
>
> I believe it would help if activity were centered on these proposed
frequencies:
> http://hflink.com/olivia/
>
> instead of going on a hunt for some Olivia. Until now, I never found activity
on these frequencies although I tried often. Only Olivia I ever found was going
hunting with the waterfall display or reviewing cluster spot announcements.
>
> Since you all also noticed a paucity of activity, how about we take this as an
invitation to center our activities on these proposed frequencies? Would love to
meet you there at the weekend!
>
> vy 73 de Marcus KD0JKM

Maybe that bandplan needs an update, but maybe also not. Why is nobody using
those frequencies? It's what people turn to when they want to get started into
this mode as it is a reference. Seems silly to "hide" somewhere else.

How about we here either all "agree" on using those defined frequencies (we are
591 group members here!), or (which is more cumbersome) redefine them since I
too would love to make more contacts, but don't want to go searching through the
bands like a madman and giving up on the mode.

Re 60m, I will personally look into it that that info is updated.

vy 73 de Marcus KD0JKM


--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, Ken Meinken <ken.meinken@...> wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, those are some very old frequencies that nobody uses, at
least on 40m.   And that "bandplan" hasn't been updated since U.S. 60m rules
have been changed.
> 73,
> Ken WA8JXM

> >
> > I believe it would help if activity were centered on these proposed
frequencies:
> > http://hflink.com/olivia/
...
> > vy 73 de Marcus KD0JKM

___Original Message_________________________________________
From: Gary L. Robinson <grobin1949@...>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012   Time: 21:10:56

>20mtrs is still quite active with Olivia but 30mtrs and below seems to be
>dead quite often.

  >

Gary

For 30m, take a look at the 30m Band Utilization Chart:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/30m_band_utilization.htm

In general, you can try to stir up activity on any band by using the
well-known spotting sites:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://hamspots.net
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/index.php?board=digitalradio
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just post a CQ self-spot on these sites, and see what happens.
--
73
Ian, G3NRW

The 30m Band Utilization Chart:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/30m_band_utilization.htm

The 160m Band Utilization Chart:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/160m_band_utilization.htm

The Top Band Digital Group (TBD160):
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TBD160

I don't think any website or group can have a significant impact on frequency
usage.  Even ARRL and IARU don't get people to follow their bandplans (some of
which are hairbrained, IMO.)  Only the FCC is successful :-)

If "we" here agree, that's probably something like 1% of all digital users.   
The other 99% are going to continue where they were.  Trying to change things
only splinters the usage and makes for more "I don't hear any activity."

I think the only "successful" frequency frequency list is one that shows what is
actually being used, not trying to change what everyone is already using.

When I first started out in digital, I looked at this list (I have it printed
out in the desk drawer).  But I found that it didn't reflect reality, so it
stays in the drawer.

I hear most non-psk digital activity just above the psk on 40m (7036) with some
up on 7071, 7072 especially in the mornings.  Likewise on 20m but it's usually a
couple of kHz higher (14073 or 74) with the wideband Olivia up on the 14105, 106
channels.   160 is similar, just above the psk on 1836.  I've never heard any
digital below 1810, that's cw only territory.

In general, I think "just above the PSK users" is the best for the other digital
modes.   That keeps all the digital modes in the same space which helps us all.

As for separate channels for different submodes, I usually stick to one
frequency and vary my digital mode.   I'll start out calling CQ in Thor, then
Domino, then Contestia or MT63.

If we want more activity, I think calling CQ is what is needed.   If everybody
listens and says "nobody is on", then of course, nobody is on.  If we want
activity, we have to call CQ, not just sit there expecting someone else to call
CQ.

73,
Ken WA8JXM



On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:34 PM, kd0jkm wrote:

> Maybe that bandplan needs an update, but maybe also not. Why is nobody using
those frequencies? It's what people turn to when they want to get started into
this mode as it is a reference. Seems silly to "hide" somewhere else.
>
> How about we here either all "agree" on using those defined frequencies (we
are 591 group members here!), or (which is more cumbersome) redefine them since
I too would love to make more contacts, but don't want to go searching through
the bands like a madman and giving up on the mode.

In general, I think "just above the PSK users" is the best for the other digital modes. That keeps all the digital modes in the same space which helps us all.

As for separate channels for different submodes, I usually stick to one frequency and vary my digital mode. I'll start out calling CQ in Thor, then Domino, then Contestia or MT63.

73, es1hj
Jaak Hohensee

Well, folks, I had a hard time getting first qso but
finally found the right freq, etc.   I never saw
a single signal on the recommended frequency for 20
meters. I remembered seeing some signals rught at the upper
end of the usual psk31 frequency though.  About 14.073.
Bingo  !!   Thats it and the guy I worked said thats the
best place to look.    Carl  K9EEI

--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, Ken Meinken <ken.meinken@...> wrote:
>
> I don't think any website or group can have a significant impact on frequency
usage.  Even ARRL and IARU don't get people to follow their bandplans (some of
which are hairbrained, IMO.)  Only the FCC is successful :-)
>
> If "we" here agree, that's probably something like 1% of all digital users.   
The other 99% are going to continue where they were.  Trying to change things
only splinters the usage and makes for more "I don't hear any activity."
>
> I think the only "successful" frequency frequency list is one that shows what
is actually being used, not trying to change what everyone is already using.
>
> When I first started out in digital, I looked at this list (I have it printed
out in the desk drawer).  But I found that it didn't reflect reality, so it
stays in the drawer.
>
> I hear most non-psk digital activity just above the psk on 40m (7036) with
some up on 7071, 7072 especially in the mornings.  Likewise on 20m but it's
usually a couple of kHz higher (14073 or 74) with the wideband Olivia up on the
14105, 106 channels.   160 is similar, just above the psk on 1836.  I've never
heard any digital below 1810, that's cw only territory.
>
> In general, I think "just above the PSK users" is the best for the other
digital modes.   That keeps all the digital modes in the same space which helps
us all.
>
> As for separate channels for different submodes, I usually stick to one
frequency and vary my digital mode.   I'll start out calling CQ in Thor, then
Domino, then Contestia or MT63.
>
> If we want more activity, I think calling CQ is what is needed.   If everybody
listens and says "nobody is on", then of course, nobody is on.  If we want
activity, we have to call CQ, not just sit there expecting someone else to call
CQ.
>
> 73,
> Ken WA8JXM
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:34 PM, kd0jkm wrote:
>
> > Maybe that bandplan needs an update, but maybe also not. Why is nobody using
those frequencies? It's what people turn to when they want to get started into
this mode as it is a reference. Seems silly to "hide" somewhere else.
> >
> > How about we here either all "agree" on using those defined frequencies (we
are 591 group members here!), or (which is more cumbersome) redefine them since
I too would love to make more contacts, but don't want to go searching through
the bands like a madman and giving up on the mode.
>

Hi Ken,

I like your take on this. Wasn't my intention to splinter activity. Just seems
that when we here - the group really interested in Olivia and likely to use it
most - have trouble finding Olivia activity, how much activity do others find?
Thus might be a nice idea to stick to the posted suggested frequencies. That's
where I listened to when I got interested in Olivia - would seem like a good
idea to bundle our activity there...?

When I read your account on where you've seen activity, it actually seems to
come pretty close to what is posted on the homepage of this very newsgroup and
on the hflink Olivia website:

Olivia 500
40 meters: 7026.25, 7043.25, 7073.25
> I hear most non-psk digital activity just above the psk on 40m
>(7036) with some up on 7071, 7072 especially in the mornings.

30 meters: 10139.25, 10142.25, 10143.25
20 meters: 14075.4, 14078.4, 14074.4
> Likewise on 20m but it's usually a couple of kHz higher
> (14073 or 74)

Olivia 1000:
14105.5, 14106.5
>with the wideband Olivia up on the 14105, 106 channels.

How about we follow your suggestion on calling more CQ and also try to stick
more to the posted frequencies of our newsgroup? Might keep us from interfering
with our modes/users (which we may not hear since they skip over us, but might
interfere with someone elses reception...? Just the same as we always as "Is
this frequency clear?".)

Just a thought.

vy 73 de Marcus KD0JKM

> 2a. SignaLink-USB and fldigi.
>     Posted by: "jerry_km3k" jsodus@... jerry_km3k
>     Date: Sat Jun 2, 2012 6:28 am ((PDT))
>
> Interested to know if any SignaLink-USB users have this device working with
fldigi and, if so, were there any special steps needed to get that arrangement
working?
> 73 Jerry KM3K
>
>

I use the Signallink SL-1+ with FLDIGI and it works without a hitch. My
rig is a Kenwood TS-140S and I've made many digital contacts with it
using PSK31, Olivia, Domino, RTTY, FeldHell, and a few other of FLDIGI's
modes.

Like has already been said though, getting the mic gain adjusted just
right isn't easy, but other than that, it works fine.

--
73,


Jonathan Helis, KB5IAV
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, U.S.A.

I have worked most of my Olivia contacts on 7.072.5 over the past few years. As
I said I rarely see any signals there.
Someone mentioned the summer band conditions, atmospheric noise. Well IMO Olivia
is the CHAMP when it comes to cutting through noisy band conditions.
73, Rick VE3FMC
I am now on 7.072.5 calling CQ :)

--- In oliviadata@yahoogroups.com, "kd0jkm" <kd0jkm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> I like your take on this. Wasn't my intention to splinter activity. Just seems
that when we here - the group really interested in Olivia and likely to use it
most - have trouble finding Olivia activity, how much activity do others find?
Thus might be a nice idea to stick to the posted suggested frequencies. That's
where I listened to when I got interested in Olivia - would seem like a good
idea to bundle our activity there...?
>
> When I read your account on where you've seen activity, it actually seems to
come pretty close to what is posted on the homepage of this very newsgroup and
on the hflink Olivia website:
>
> Olivia 500
> 40 meters: 7026.25, 7043.25, 7073.25
> > I hear most non-psk digital activity just above the psk on 40m
> >(7036) with some up on 7071, 7072 especially in the mornings.
>
> 30 meters: 10139.25, 10142.25, 10143.25
> 20 meters: 14075.4, 14078.4, 14074.4
> > Likewise on 20m but it's usually a couple of kHz higher
> > (14073 or 74)
>
> Olivia 1000:
> 14105.5, 14106.5
> >with the wideband Olivia up on the 14105, 106 channels.
>
> How about we follow your suggestion on calling more CQ and also try to stick
more to the posted frequencies of our newsgroup? Might keep us from interfering
with our modes/users (which we may not hear since they skip over us, but might
interfere with someone elses reception...? Just the same as we always as "Is
this frequency clear?".)
>
> Just a thought.
>
> vy 73 de Marcus KD0JKM
>