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I didn't see triox specifically, but I used to buy hexamine tablets there - 3
tabs stacked and wrapped in foil backed craft paper. Worked just like Esbit
tabs, just as toxic, too  :X

I was eyeballing the leather over-gloves that were right next to the wool
liners. I may have to investigate further...

--- In ohiobph@yahoogroups.com, William Comer <WillyP1956@...> wrote:
>
> Did they have triox there Bill ? Another glove option might be flight gloves
> . Not as warm as the wool but they turn the wind well.
>

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#9157

From: William Comer <WillyP1956@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 2:29 pm
Subject: Re: Army Navy Surplus Stores

willyp1956

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Did they have triox there Bill ? Another glove option might be flight gloves . Not as warm as the wool but they turn the wind well.�

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Frenchy <bferriot@...> wrote:

�

I went out to my favorite Army Navy Surplus Store today to look for some 100% wool accessories. I've always loved the surplus store since I was a kid and I still love it. I guess it's one of those things that just takes you back.

Anyway, I was on the lookout to replace my SmartWool liner gloves because I seem to wear holes in the fingers in every pair, every year. I was getting frustrated with this because they just don't seem to last anymore, and they're not overly expensive, but not cheap either...plus shipping.

Then I remembered the old, wool Army Surplus glove liners I used for years and years and years when I was a younger backpacker. Would they still have them? Well, government doesn't change very rapidly, so I thought I'd go shopping and see.

Sure enough, there they were. Same old 100% wool glove liners. Right next to the 100% wool watch caps and 100% wool scarves. And at $5.99 a pair in both black and your favorite shade of olive green, who could argue with the price?

Of course, they had many other items useful to the hiker and backpacker. Items such as packs, bags, tools, clothes, blankets, fuel, socks and on and on...

So, I thought I'd give a shout out to our local surplus stores as a great resource for gear - and maybe a little nostalgia!

See you on the trail,
~Frenchy

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#9156

From: Tyson Henry <tyson_e_henry@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:51 am
Subject: Re: PHOTOS | Big South Fork, TN :: Thanksgiving Weekend 2009

tyson_e_henry

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Thanks for the photos Bill. I really enjoyed them. The water shots turned out great.

Tyson

From: Frenchy <bferriot@...>
To: ohiobph@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 10:10:40 PM
Subject: [ohiobph] PHOTOS | Big South Fork, TN :: Thanksgiving Weekend 2009

http://outdoors. webshots. com/slideshow/ 575808004yvFMaB

~Frenchy

#9155

From: Vicki Crombie <crombiv@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 12:58 am
Subject: Re: PHOTOS | Big South Fork, TN :: Thanksgiving Weekend 2009

vicki_crombie

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Great trip report Cathy.  Sounds like you guys had a great time.  Looking
forward to getting back out with the group.  Is there any talk of a winter trip
in the next couple months?  Hope all is well.


--- In ohiobph@yahoogroups.com, Cathy <heartsmile7@...> wrote:
>
> We had another terrific group trip this month.  We went to Big South Fork, TN
and hiked the Honey Creek Loop and the Burnt Mill Bridge Loop.  We had
considered hiking the Twin Arches area again and staying at the Charit Creek
Lodge one night but the lure of adventure of the Honey Creek Trails was just too
much for us.  We were not disappointed.
>  
> Seven of us (Gigger, Frenchy, Gadget, MollyGoat, Mark, Tyson, Shorty) met up
in Oneida on Friday and drove over to the Honey Creek Trailhead.  We hiked
about 2.7 miles counterclockwise (north) on the loop to a campsite along the
river.  We technically *slid* down the bank to the campsite.  It was steep.
 It was cold but there was plenty of firewood available.  We did see the Space
Station pass over at 7:05pm.  We struggled to stay awake until 9pm.
>  
> Saturday was a beautiful hike continuing counterclockwise (south) on the loop.
We had ladders, caves, slots, gorgeous canyons, etc, along Honey Creek.  What
fun we had.  We understand why it takes a full day to do the 5.8 mile loop �"
cause you want to explore everything and there’s no dirt trail, it’s all
rocks!  At one large rock overhang (some might call it a cave), we encountered
it filled with many cairns all around in it.  Of course, I said that we should
build one too so we did.  There was a rock sofa �" almost a sectional sofa
really.  Interesting looking area, that’s for sure.  This section of the
loop was almost constant climbing up, around, and over boulders.
>  
> As we completed the loop, we looked at our time and decided to skip the
connector trail and just drive to the Burnt Mill Bridge Trailhead. Otherwise,
it’d be dark by the time we got to camp.  We drove to the Honey Creek
Overlook that looks out north over the Big South Fork Cumberland River, and then
down to the trailhead.  We hiked clockwise (west) from the trailhead for about
2 miles to a nice camp in a pine forest.  We passed two camps with established
fire rings �" one big enough for about fifteen tents and the other may be 4
tents.  The third one we picked in a pine forest was big enough for maybe 40
tents.  It was along the river with a nice fire ring.  The 2 miles are flat
and there’s a swimming hole spot with two rope swings along the way (remember
that).  On Sunday morning, we continued on the loop clockwise up the ridge and
back to the trailhead to finish the loop.  Total loop is 4.3 miles.
>  
> As usual, we had good weather with blue skies.  Friday night was just a big
chilly in the 20s.  If any of you are interested in this hike on your own, I
recommend doing the Honey Creek Loop as a dayhike allotting a full day.  The
absence of a heavy bulky pack will allow you more freedom to explore and
climb.  Everyone still fit through the slots with our packs on though.  The
Burnt Mill Bridge Loop only has maybe one tight squeeze that I can remember. 
It’s mostly open dirt trail hiking.  The loop is an easy drive in & easy flat
hike to nice camps.
>  
> Thanks to everyone for going.  I had trouble with my new Snow Peak stove (the
new lighterweight model) so thanks for covering me.
>  
> I think two folks took pictures so hopefully they’ll post this week.
>  
> Gigger.
>

#9147

From: Cathy <heartsmile7@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 11:26 am
Subject: Re: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

heartsmile7

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Thanks everyone for the advice and insight. I'm going to follow it and return the stove. I'll let you know what Snow Peak has to say.

Gigger.

#9146

From: William Comer <WillyP1956@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:33 am
Subject: Re: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

willyp1956

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I have not gotten a scale out yet to measure the different canister threaded lengths but that might be the way they do it. Bill I agree about the no spill leak etc. if they would just put a little "wick" of some kind on the esbits :-) Alcohol is pretty sweet. I have never had it not light off even below freezing when left out all night but I have never used it up really high, 8000' has been about it, and never really cold, 20's is about the end of where I have used it so far. I wish I had not waited so long on the manufactured Caldera Cone. It worked for me in WY this past fall in very high winds . It actually surprised me. Pleasantly as I got to not have to eat an MRE that night.�

Pat

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Frenchy <bferriot@...> wrote:

�

My uneducated guess would agree with Andy on this one. I would bet it has something to do with the valve fitting. I have an MSR SuperFly and bought it for 2 reasons: it can accept any fuel canister and it has a wide flame as to not burn the center of whatever you're cooking. However, I hate it in cold weather. I have to agree with Pat, too - I loved Esbit tabs (no spill, right, Pat?) until I finally got tired of that uber toxic smell. The simple alcohol stove just continues to work for me.

~Frenchy

--- In ohiobph@yahoogroups.com, William Comer <WillyP1956@...> wrote:
>
> That's pretty interesting. I had picked up an MSR WindPro due it's
> preheating tube. I've used it with the "big three's" canisters. I like the
> tiny little Jet Boil winter fuel canisters. I got this stove for cold winter
> use but I just keep being more and more happy with either the alcohol or
> esbit stoves inside my Caldera Cone. Here is just another reason for me to
> completely break away from IsoPro fuels and stoves above and beyond the
> weight savings. I know for years the "big three" have stated not to use
> anyone else's fuel canisters but all had worked . Now I guess they have made
> a design change to make us use proprietary canisters. :-( I'd be temped to
> take the stove back and at least complain really loud to the store and to
> Snow Peaks specifically.
>
> Pat C.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Andy Niekamp <andyniekamp@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > If you search the web you'll find references to people with SnowPeak
> > LiteMax stoves who could not use their stove with MSR fuel canisters.
> > One references says the valve configuration and pin dimensions are
> > different on the SnowPeak LiteMax.
> >
> > I have not had any problems with different brands of fuel canisters
> > with the two Primus stoves I own.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>

#9144

From: Bill Beier <shoebox185@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:47 am
Subject: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

shoebox185

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The cat food can alcohol stove Pat gave me has been performing nicely. But, I
only eat meals that need boiled water. I do have a Crux Optimus that performed
well with all different containers. I just haven't used it since I got the
alcohol stove. I think I would return the problem stove and complain to the
company and let them know they lost a customer with there greed. That is if they
truly designed it to only work with there canisters
shoebox

******CIVILIZATION is a nice place to visit,But I wouldn't want to live
there****

#9143

From: "wasabear_2000" <wasabear_2000@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 3:34 am
Subject: REI Half Dome 2 HC

wasabear_2000

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Just an FYI for those that are interested.

The REI Half Dome 2 (and 2HC) are great 3 season tents that are consistently
well reviewed (Backpacker Magazine awards & all that).

From personal experience, I've been using a Half Dome 2 since 2005 & loving it.

I discovered by accident that it is being modified for the 2010 model, and will
now be slightly smaller and use a 3 pole design, rather than a two.

As a result the old style is on sale for approx. $125, for as long as it lasts,
on REI.  The matching footprint is sold out online, but is in most of the stores
still, if you know someone who can get to one.

-Brian

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#9142

From: "Frenchy" <bferriot@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

bferriot

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My uneducated guess would agree with Andy on this one. I would bet it has
something to do with the valve fitting. I have an MSR SuperFly and bought it for
2 reasons: it can accept any fuel canister and it has a wide flame as to not
burn the center of whatever you're cooking. However, I hate it in cold weather.
I have to agree with Pat, too - I loved Esbit tabs (no spill, right, Pat?) until
I finally got tired of that uber toxic smell. The simple alcohol stove just
continues to work for me.

~Frenchy


--- In ohiobph@yahoogroups.com, William Comer <WillyP1956@...> wrote:
>
> That's pretty interesting. I had picked up an MSR WindPro due it's
> preheating tube. I've used it with the "big three's" canisters. I like the
> tiny little Jet Boil winter fuel canisters. I got this stove for cold winter
> use but I just keep being more and more happy with either the alcohol or
> esbit stoves inside my Caldera Cone. Here is just another reason for me to
> completely break away from IsoPro fuels and stoves above and beyond the
> weight savings. I know for years the "big three" have stated not to use
> anyone else's fuel canisters but all had worked . Now I guess they have made
> a design change to make us use proprietary canisters. :-(  I'd be temped to
> take the stove back and at least complain really loud to the store and to
> Snow Peaks specifically.
>
> Pat C.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Andy Niekamp <andyniekamp@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > If you search the web you'll find references to people with SnowPeak
> > LiteMax stoves who could not use their stove with MSR fuel canisters.
> > One references says the valve configuration and pin dimensions are
> > different on the SnowPeak LiteMax.
> >
> > I have not had any problems with different brands of fuel canisters
> > with the two Primus stoves I own.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>

#9141

From: steve maliszeski <SMaliszeski@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

stevemaliszeski

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I would at least call the company.� They should give you a replacement.� I spent all summer backpacking and have never had or heard of any such problems.� Even when using off brand canisters.� There may be a quick fix, but in the long run it is probably woth the hastle?

�

Steve Bigboots

#9140

From: William Comer <WillyP1956@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

willyp1956

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That's pretty interesting. I had picked up an MSR WindPro due it's preheating tube. I've used it with the "big three's" canisters. I like the tiny little Jet Boil winter fuel canisters. I got this stove for cold winter use but I just keep being more and more happy with either the alcohol or esbit stoves inside my Caldera Cone. Here is just another reason for me to completely break away from IsoPro fuels and stoves above and beyond the weight savings. I know for years the "big three" have stated not to use anyone else's fuel canisters but all had worked . Now I guess they have made a design change to make us use proprietary canisters. :-( �I'd be temped to take the stove back and at least complain really loud to the store and to Snow Peaks specifically.�

Pat C.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Andy Niekamp <andyniekamp@...> wrote:

�

If you search the web you'll find references to people with SnowPeak
LiteMax stoves who could not use their stove with MSR fuel canisters.
One references says the valve configuration and pin dimensions are
different on the SnowPeak LiteMax.

I have not had any problems with different brands of fuel canisters
with the two Primus stoves I own.

Cheers,

Andy

#9139

From: Andy Niekamp <andyniekamp@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

AJNIEKAMP3

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If you search the web you'll find references to people with SnowPeak
LiteMax stoves who could not use their stove with MSR fuel canisters.
One references says the valve configuration and pin dimensions are
different on the SnowPeak LiteMax.

I have not had any problems with different brands of fuel canisters
with the two Primus stoves I own.

Cheers,

Andy

#9138

From: Bill Beier <shoebox185@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:32 am
Subject: Re: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

shoebox185

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I would contact manufacture and get the answer from them. If somehow they designed the stove that way definitely express your disappointment.

shoebox

******CIVILIZATION is a nice place to visit,But I wouldn't want to live there******

#9137

From: "Diana Harkness" <dhrknss@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:03 am
Subject: RE: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

dharknesscon...

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We have a Whisper Lite (At least I think that’s the name) and have never had any problems. But we’ve never used it in cold weather either. Our friends used it out West and it worked fine for them also.

Diana Harkness

From: ohiobph@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ohiobph@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:22 PM
To: ohiobph
Subject: [ohiobph] Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

This past weekend on our group backpacking trip, I had issues with my stove or possible the fuel canister. I’m not sure what exactly the problem is. Here’s the story and maybe one of you can tell me the technical details…

For the past four years, I’ve used a Snow Peak Giga Stove. It has never failed me. I’ve used both MSR and Snow Peak brand isobutane-propane mix fuel canisters. I also know to warm the canisters up prior to usage in cold weather.

For our Montana trip this past August, I wanted to get even lighter on my pack weight so I purchased a new Snow Peak LiteMax Stove. I’ve had good luck with Snow Peak product quality and this stove weighs in at 1.9oz…yes, I save ounces where ever I can. J The two nights that I was able to camp in MT/WY, I used the new stove with a Snow Peak canister. All worked perfect.

This past trip to BSF, I brought along an MSR canister and the stove would not light. Actually, no gas was even seeping out of the canister. Molly let me use her canister (Snow Peak) and it lit fine. I made sure to warm the MSR canister up prior to breakfast, but it still wouldn’t light. This time, we thought maybe it was the canister so we put the canister on Tim’s stove and all worked perfect.

Home now, I wanted to know what’s up so …

- LiteMax Stove + Snow Peak canister >>> worked fine

- LiteMax Stove + MSR canister >>> did not work again

- Giga Stove + Snow Peak canister >>> worked fine

- Giga Stove + MSR canister >>> worked fine

Why does the new LiteMax stove not work with a different brand fuel canister that contains the same fuel mix? Anyone know?

And, fyi for anyone who has the stove or purchases it, only take along Snow Peak canisters.

Gigger.

#9136

From: Cathy <heartsmile7@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:21 am
Subject: Snow Peak stoves and fuel canister brands

heartsmile7

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Home now, I wanted to know what’s up so …

- LiteMax Stove + Snow Peak canister >>> worked fine

- LiteMax Stove + MSR canister >>> did not work again

- Giga Stove + Snow Peak canister >>> worked fine

- Giga Stove + MSR canister >>> worked fine

Why does the new LiteMax stove not work with a different brand fuel canister that contains the same fuel mix? Anyone know?

And, fyi for anyone who has the stove or purchases it, only take along Snow Peak canisters.

Gigger.

#9135

From: William Comer <WillyP1956@...>
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 12:44 am
Subject: Re: Trip Report :: Nov Group Hike to Big South Fork, TN

willyp1956

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Cathy,

Nice report on the trip. I like that area down there. It is pretty awesome in the fall as the leaves change. I have only dayhiked around there.

Molly,

Nice job on the photos . It looks like you all had a really nice trip. I'm sorry to have missed it.

Pat C.

#9134

From: Molly Rose <mollyrose223@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Trip Report :: Nov Group Hike to Big South Fork, TN

mollyrose223

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Great report Cathy!! Thanks to Tim for planning, Bill and Tyson for driving, and Mark and Shorty for being such good company on the trail.

Here are my pictures. Probably 100 that I didn't post because they turned out so blurry but here are the one's I liked.
Hope you enjoy them.

http://picasaweb.google.com/mollyrose223/BSF#

Mollygoat

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Cathy <heartsmile7@...> wrote:

�

We had another terrific group trip this month. �We went to Big South Fork, TN and hiked the Honey Creek Loop and the Burnt Mill Bridge Loop. �We had considered hiking the Twin Arches area again and staying at the Charit Creek Lodge one night but the lure of adventure of the Honey Creek Trails was just too much for us. �We were not disappointed.

�

Seven of us (Gigger, Frenchy, Gadget, MollyGoat, Mark, Tyson, Shorty) met up in Oneida on Friday and drove over to the Honey Creek Trailhead. �We hiked about 2.7 miles counterclockwise (north) on the loop to a campsite along the river.� We technically *slid* down the bank to the campsite.� It was steep. �It was cold but there was plenty of firewood available. �We did see the Space Station pass over at 7:05pm.� We struggled to stay awake until 9pm.

�

Saturday was a beautiful hike continuing counterclockwise (south) on the loop. We had ladders, caves, slots, gorgeous canyons, etc, along Honey Creek.� What fun we had. �We understand why it takes a full day to do the 5.8 mile loop � cause you want to explore everything and there�s no dirt trail, it�s all rocks!� At one large rock overhang (some might call it a cave), we encountered it filled with many cairns all around in it. �Of course, I said that we should build one too so we did.� There was a rock sofa � almost a sectional sofa really.� Interesting looking area, that�s for sure.� This section of the loop was almost constant climbing up, around, and over boulders.

�

As we completed the loop, we looked at our time and decided to skip the connector trail and just drive to the Burnt Mill Bridge Trailhead. Otherwise, it�d be dark by the time we got to camp. �We drove to the Honey Creek Overlook that looks out north over the Big South Fork Cumberland River, and then down to the trailhead. �We hiked clockwise (west) from the trailhead for about 2 miles to a nice camp in a pine forest. �We passed two camps with established fire rings � one big enough for about fifteen tents and the other may be 4 tents.� The third one we picked in a pine forest was big enough for maybe 40 tents.� It was along the river with a nice fire ring.� The 2 miles are flat and there�s a swimming hole spot with two rope swings along the way (remember that). �On Sunday morning, we continued on the loop clockwise up the ridge and back to the trailhead to finish the loop.� Total loop is 4.3 miles.

�

As usual, we had good weather with blue skies.� Friday night was just a big chilly in the 20s. �If any of you are interested in this hike on your own, I recommend doing the Honey Creek Loop as a dayhike allotting a full day. �The absence of a heavy bulky pack will allow you more freedom to explore and climb.� Everyone still fit through the slots with our packs on though.� The Burnt Mill Bridge Loop only has maybe one tight squeeze that I can remember.� It�s mostly open dirt trail hiking.� The loop is an easy drive in & easy flat hike to nice camps.

�

Thanks to everyone for going.� I had trouble with my new Snow Peak stove (the new lighterweight model) so thanks for covering me.

�

I think two folks took pictures so hopefully they�ll post this week.

�

Gigger.

�

#9133

From: Tyson Henry <tyson_e_henry@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: Trip Report :: Nov Group Hike to Big South Fork, TN

tyson_e_henry

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Thanks for the trip report Cathy. It was a great trip. It was great meeting Mark and finally seeing everyone again. Thanks for a great time guys. Can't wait to see the pictures.

Tyson

From: Cathy <heartsmile7@...>
To: ohiobph <ohiobph@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 1:24:07 PM
Subject: [ohiobph] Trip Report :: Nov Group Hike to Big South Fork, TN

We had another terrific group trip this month. We went to Big South Fork, TN and hiked the Honey Creek Loop and the Burnt Mill Bridge Loop. We had considered hiking the Twin Arches area again and staying at the Charit Creek Lodge one night but the lure of adventure of the Honey Creek Trails was just too much for us. We were not disappointed.

Seven of us (Gigger, Frenchy, Gadget, MollyGoat, Mark, Tyson, Shorty) met up in Oneida on Friday and drove over to the Honey Creek Trailhead. We hiked about 2.7 miles counterclockwise (north) on the loop to a campsite along the river. We technically *slid* down the bank to the campsite. It was steep. It was cold but there was plenty of firewood available. We did see the Space Station pass over at 7:05pm. We struggled to stay awake until 9pm.

Saturday was a beautiful hike continuing counterclockwise (south) on the loop. We had ladders, caves, slots, gorgeous canyons, etc, along Honey Creek. What fun we had. We understand why it takes a full day to do the 5.8 mile loop – cause you want to explore everything and there’s no dirt trail, it’s all rocks! At one large rock overhang (some might call it a cave), we encountered it filled with many cairns all around in it. Of course, I said that we should build one too so we did. There was a rock sofa – almost a sectional sofa really. Interesting looking area, that’s for sure. This section of the loop was almost constant climbing up, around, and over boulders.

As we completed the loop, we looked at our time and decided to skip the connector trail and just drive to the Burnt Mill Bridge Trailhead. Otherwise, it’d be dark by the time we got to camp.. We drove to the Honey Creek Overlook that looks out north over the Big South Fork Cumberland River, and then down to the trailhead. We hiked clockwise (west) from the trailhead for about 2 miles to a nice camp in a pine forest. We passed two camps with established fire rings – one big enough for about fifteen tents and the other may be 4 tents. The third one we picked in a pine forest was big enough for maybe 40 tents. It was along the river with a nice fire ring. The 2 miles are flat and there’s a swimming hole spot with two rope swings along the way (remember that). On Sunday morning, we continued on the loop clockwise up the ridge and back to the trailhead to finish the loop. Total loop is 4.3 miles.

As usual, we had good weather with blue skies. Friday night was just a big chilly in the 20s. If any of you are interested in this hike on your own, I recommend doing the Honey Creek Loop as a dayhike allotting a full day. The absence of a heavy bulky pack will allow you more freedom to explore and climb. Everyone still fit through the slots with our packs on though. The Burnt Mill Bridge Loop only has maybe one tight squeeze that I can remember. It’s mostly open dirt trail hiking. The loop is an easy drive in & easy flat hike to nice camps.

Thanks to everyone for going. I had trouble with my new Snow Peak stove (the new lighterweight model) so thanks for covering me.

I think two folks took pictures so hopefully they’ll post this week.

Gigger.

#9132

From: Cathy <heartsmile7@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:24 pm
Subject: Trip Report :: Nov Group Hike to Big South Fork, TN

heartsmile7

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As we completed the loop, we looked at our time and decided to skip the connector trail and just drive to the Burnt Mill Bridge Trailhead. Otherwise, it’d be dark by the time we got to camp. We drove to the Honey Creek Overlook that looks out north over the Big South Fork Cumberland River, and then down to the trailhead. We hiked clockwise (west) from the trailhead for about 2 miles to a nice camp in a pine forest. We passed two camps with established fire rings – one big enough for about fifteen tents and the other may be 4 tents. The third one we picked in a pine forest was big enough for maybe 40 tents. It was along the river with a nice fire ring. The 2 miles are flat and there’s a swimming hole spot with two rope swings along the way (remember that). On Sunday morning, we continued on the loop clockwise up the ridge and back to the trailhead to finish the loop. Total loop is 4.3 miles.

Thanks to everyone for going. I had trouble with my new Snow Peak stove (the new lighterweight model) so thanks for covering me.

I think two folks took pictures so hopefully they’ll post this week.

Gigger.

#9131

From: Ewa Roszczenko <ewarosz@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:52 pm
Subject: Glitch!

ewarosz

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Hello, All

My deepest apology to All of you, about the resent messages what you All just got from "me"

I did not send them. I was trying to send some pictures to a few people and opened my address book and suddenly I saw that I sent some messages to many people from my address book even I did not pick those addresses (I fond all your names at my "sent folder")

I do not play those games and I am very sorry it happened. As for now, I am clueless how it happened but I will investigate this.

Again, please accept my deepest apology, I did not do this.

Ewa

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#9129

From: Bill Beier <shoebox185@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Shawnee NF

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Thank you Scott I will use the info to plan my Hike. I'm not sure what I will do yet. If my cousin goes with me we will base camp somewhere and do several day hikes. If I go by myself I think I would like to do the RTR section in the NF. As you know the logistics are different so I will gather the info and present the option to my cousin.
Thanks Again

Bill
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From: "tootoomuch7" <tootoomuch7@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Shawnee NF

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Zzzzzzz....... Huh? What? Who woke me up? Oh, hello. Yes, I do like to hike in
the Shawnee National Forest of far southern Illinois which should not be
confused with the Shawnee State Forest of Ohio. In southern Illinois the River
to River Trail runs from the Ohio R. to the Mississippi R. I've hiked the r2rt
but only as 8 to 12 mile segments on weekends. I'm just a dayhiker and don't
backpack very often but I know some folks who have thru-hiked the r2rt. It takes
about 2 weeks unless you really hurry which is not appealing to me.  There is a
lot to see in the Shawnee NF which is characterized by sandstone bluffs,
overhangs, hills, hollows, small waterfalls and clear creeks. Garden of the Gods
is spectacular but it's very popular and easy to access so I like to go about
dawn on weekdays just for some solitude. It is on the r2rt. The best of the
Shawnee NF is all along the r2rt but you must take side trails to see the most
interesting features and that can really chew up your time. I can supply you
with a list of some of the most interesting places to see.  I actually live up
in northern Illinois so it's a 5 hour drive for me to get down there. It's the
best place for hiking in all of Illinois. Folks from western Kentucky and
Indiana frequent the area a lot. There's a yahoo group called
shawneeforesthikers where you can post inquiries and browse past messages and
access links and get info on the area. I have a series of photo albums from the
River to River Trail and then lots more albums from the southern Illinois and
Shawnee NF region which you can check out to see if you really want to visit the
area. Let me know if you decide to go and I'll do what I can to help out. Here's
a link to a mess of photo albums which you can pick through to get a glimpse of
the Shawnee NF:
http://community.webshots.com/user/tootoomuch7
Scott C.
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--- In ohiobph@yahoogroups.com, "Frenchy" <bferriot@...> wrote:
>
> shoebox, we actually have a member in the area - I would search or email Scott
Campbell (tootoomuch7 [at] yahoo [dot] com) and ask his advice if he doesn't
personally respond to your post. I'm sure he'd be glad to be your virtual guide,
if not show you in person!
>
> ~Frenchy
>
>
>
> --- In ohiobph@yahoogroups.com, "shoebox185" <shoebox185@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All
> > I have just started checking out Shawnee NF in Illinois. It looks like it
might be worth spending some time there. BP.com has done a review on the
rivertorivertrail that runs thru there. Its about a 8.5 hour drive from where I
live so I would want to spend several days there. Does anyone have any
experience with this National Forest? Is it worth a weeks vacation to either car
camp or BP?
> > Thanks
> > shoebox
> > (Bill)
> >
>

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From: "Frenchy" <bferriot@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:14 am
Subject: Re: Shawnee NF

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