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David; thanks for letting us know. 

 

When I point out the retraction in NY Mag, I also intend to post the actual quotation that appears in the transcript, as follows:  

 

“But we've got to improve the entire city. I have too many schools where the only kids who go there are kids who have no real choice in life. And I have many schools that are schools of choice for the parents of those kids. Because you know and I know that if there wasn't a good school, there are many people in this district, in this community, who would find an alternative."   

 

I will post this along with your previous explanation: “The chancellor is referring to the fact that many middle-class parents can leave the public schools if they don't like them but that poor families generally can't.”   

 

You also promised to provide brief answers to the three other questions I had by Dec. 3, and still have not.  They are below.

 

Thanks,

 

Leonie Haimson

Executive Director

Class Size Matters

124 Waverly Pl.

New York, NY 10011

212-674-7320

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http://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/

 

First, could you clarify the department's position on class size?  Jim Liebman told parents at the D2 Presidents Council and followed up by email that the reason the DOE does not intend to reduce class size is that classes would have to shrink to below 15 students to make a difference in terms of improving instruction and/or student achievement.  He said the cost would thus be as high as private school tuition and not within reach.   Is this the Chancellor's view as well? 
 

·         At the last PEP meeting, I asked the Chancellor whether he intends to make the class size proposal the DOE just submitted to the state a reality by expanding the capital plan to provide the necessary space, or whether this proposal was instead a convenient fiction concocted to satisfy the state.  (An amendment to the capital plan was just filed by DOE that does not add any seats.)  The Chancellor said he'd like to improve the capital plan, but he has no power to do so. If this is so, is it because he has actually explained to the Mayor the importance of doing this, and the Mayor has overruled him?  Or has he not actually approached the Mayor on this issue, and if so, why not?

 

·         Finally, why is it that an administration that prides itself on being data-driven is unable to report accurate class size figures by the legal deadline (which was Nov. 15) --  two years after a law was passed by the City Council requiring this?  Is it a lack of focus, resources, or something else that has caused this apparent inability or unwillingness on the part of the administration to comply with the law?


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From: Patrick Sullivan [mailto:patrick.j.sullivan@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:38 PM
To: Leonie Haimson
Subject: FW: [nyceducationnews] NYMag prints correction about Chancellor Klein

 

How about you just let me respond?

Technically, I am the list owner.

You don't need to respond or issue a retraction since you simply pointed to the statement in NY Magazine.

 


To: nyceducationnews@yahoogroups.com
From: cantorrac@...
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:11:57 +0000
Subject: [nyceducationnews] NYMag prints correction about Chancellor Klein

 

Hi Leonie. New York Magazine ran a correction this week acknowledging there is no evidence that Chancellor Klein told parents "to send your children to private school." The statement, which supposedly occurred last spring at a CEC meeting, was reported in a recent NYMag story about overcrowding.

 

You highlighted the statement at the top of posts on three sites. I ask that you highlight NY Mag's acknowledgement that the statement is unfounded. Here is NYMag's correction:

 

"We received a less affirmative response from the Department of Education, which called us on two errors. For one, two separate parents at a public forum had reported to [writer Jhoanna] Robledo that Chancellor Joel Klein had told them, when they expressed frustration, to "send your

kids to private school." The Board of Ed supplied us with a recording of the meeting, which does not support the parents' version. Also, the population of P.S. 199 has risen 20 percent, not doubled. The number of kindergarten classes, however, has doubled."

 

Best regards,

David Cantor

 

Here are links to the recording of the meeting:

 

Opening remarks: http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/2E1FF25A-8470-4B39-9CA4-C427CE79E3E4/0/20070523jkcec2.mp3

 

Q&A: http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/0639AD26-6CC5-4122-B08D-ADA78619F245/0/20070523jkcec2qa.mp3

 

 


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