My kids are loving the projects in this book!  I, however, am not!
The instructions are not always very clear.  Today when I was trying
to figure out the eye, one of the instructions actually said to do
something "as shown," had a colon as if something would follow--and
then never showed anything & went on to the next instruction.  Some
pictures of how these things are supposed to go together would be
extremely helpful.  Then at the end it suggested having kids write
key words on each part of the eye to remember what it does.  Great
idea!  But what follows is a series of paragraphs, which don't
include every part of the eye (so I had to also use the encyc.
readings to figure out what the parts do.).  And then I still had to
figure out how to summarize into a couple of "key words" for my kids
to write.

It takes us an hour or more to do each one too--When 2 were scheduled
the first day, we had to spread it out over a couple of days.  The
scheduling doesn't really compare with how the rest of the guide
works, and you might consider at least giving parents a heads up
about the extra time needed.  Even though I've made all the copies
ahead of time, I don't find this to be an "open and go" kind of
project, and it sure is clunky to do.

Thanks for listening, Merry :-)

I'm new here, and I was wondering something. I have two boys who are
in kindergarten and third grade this year. (I'm looking at this for
next year.) My kindergartener will most likely be doing kindergarten
level work next year due to some learning issues (which we are getting
help for.) My third grader is pretty advanced and reads at a much
higher grade level. (I have to watch what he reads since he can read
books that may have inappropriate content.) However, my younger son,
is really advanced in science. I mean that he really gets scientific
concepts really easily. My husband designs speakers and my little boy
knows a lot more about speakers than one would guess. He will sit
through a science documentary or beg you to read science texts to him,
and then he'll explain it all to me in his own words.

So, with my two boys I want to do the physics next year. I was going
to do physics I with the younger guy. Would I be doing the older one a
disservice by keeping him in physics I instead of doing physics II?
Unfortunately science is one of my weaker subjects so I feel like
maybe they haven't had enough of it so far so perhaps physics I will
be challenging enough for him.

What is the difference between the two?

Also, what should I buy? Is it cheaper to look for the books used (we
will be overseas next year and I don't know what our library situation
will be) or buy the whole package from the website? I have heard that
the young scientist kits aren't worth the money. Should I try to just
put together my own stuff? Shipping is an issue, too. We will buy this
in the states and then ship all of our things over when we move to the
UK in November of next year. But we may be able to change our shipping
allowance to not include our schoolbooks.

We have a new baby coming in June (and a 19 month old already here!)
and a transcontinental move coming up so I want next years schooling
to be easy and simple. Is this curriculum pretty easy to pull
together? Does it require a lot of parent prep work? I feel like I've
neglected science for too long and I want to make sure to make it a
priority from now on, especially since it's what my younger boy seems
to excell at.

Jo

I hear a lot of questions about which bio year to use when dealing
with mixed ages. I have a child (2nd) doing the Bio I and another(5th)
in Bio II and even another (6th) in Apologia General Science.  We are
big science and math people here. I think the Bio I has much to offer
even to older kids, especially ones who are struggling with reading.
With Bio II there is definitely a more advanced reading level, lots of
scientific terms and concepts. (especially with the Science
Encyclopedia)  But fortunately, it's only about 2 pages a day so it's
a challenge that is not too overwhelming.
Most of the kits have been good, not great, but good. The weather one
was a bust for us and I think its now been replaced with something else.
Currently, I've combined the Human Body units and teaching them with 2
other homeschoolers. We're using The Body Book (which I highly
recommend) along with the kits required for Bio I and II. The younger
kids read out of the First Encyclopedia of the Human Body and the
older ones the Usborne Science Encyclopedia.
I also came to a realization that if you start Noeo with the Level 2
series, ordering the science kits from Level 1 as an addition would be
a great option.
My oldest, although able to understand Apologia General Science for
the most part made mostly A's on the tests but got really bored with
it by Chapter 7 so we skipped Ch. 8. She'll continue the rest at a
later date. If I had to do it over again, I would of had her in the
Bio II or  alternate  the first 8 Chapters with the last 7 of General
Science.
As for next year, I think we will ALL do Chem II. I'm going to order
the kits from level 1 and 2 and the molecular model kit from Level 1.
If any of the Chem I books are available at our library, I'll have
those as a back up for my younger one if it anything needs to be
simplified.
These are just my thoughts and Very Very Humble Opinions  :-)

Holly

Merry,

I agree that this is more involved that the rest of Bio I but as you
said, my kids think it's great! I'm also teaching it to 2 other kids.
I actually do the project before the kids do them. (I know, most don't
have time for that, but since I'm responsible for 2 other children's
knowledge I must come prepared!)
I think when it said "as pictured" they were referring to a previous
page in the book where they showed that technique (maybe?) I remember
thinking that same thing at some point. I've got as far as finishing
the skeleton. The ear confuses me because you tape the Anvil, Hammer,
and Stirrup between 2 pages so that you can't completely open the ear
at that stage. Not sure if I did something wrong. I just "make it
work" as some would say and move on to the next model :) Good Luck and
I'll let ya know how the rest goes!

Holly

Please email me with price and condition.
Blessings,
Micky
mirellaflores@...

I have the complete Chemistry 1 set available for $160 ppd.  This is a new
unused set.  The experiment kits have not been used.  To view what is included,
try this link:
http://www.noeoscience.com/chemI.html

If interested, please email me at melanieparrish@...

Thanks,
Melanie Parrish

Welcome, Jo! I'm using Physics 1 this year with my 3rd grader (soon to
by 9 years old). We've done about 8 weeks of the program.


> So, with my two boys I want to do the physics next year. I was going
> to do physics I with the younger guy. Would I be doing the older one
> a disservice by keeping him in physics I instead of doing physics II?

Absolutely not! The material is good. It will not be too easy for a
fourth grader.


> Also, what should I buy? Is it cheaper to look for the books used (we
> will be overseas next year and I don't know what our library situation
> will be) or buy the whole package from the website? I have heard that
> the young scientist kits aren't worth the money.

I live abroad too, and for that reason, I do buy it all, straight from
Noeo. It's just easy for me. Sure, I may be able to find a bouncy ball
for the experiment, but it may take me weeks to do so. I love the kits
-- it's all there.

>
> this curriculum pretty easy to pull
> together? Does it require a lot of parent prep work?

Very easy. Very little prep! I'm really enjoying it.

I'm one of those who has to add to anything I buy, so I am adding,
mostly lapbooking things, to Physics 1. I have put a page together of
what we've added, resources I've found, etc.

http://www.squidoo.com/physicslapbook

Jimmie

Hi,
I have three boys 5,3,and 1 and want to start one of the science
programs with the oldest one either this summer or in the fall.  I was
looking at the old posts and noticed many people had sets for sale.  I
was wondering if anyone still had all or parts of Bio I, Chem I, or
Physics I for sale still?  Or maybe even just the instructor guides
for these?  Thanks!

Julie

Hi I am new and just ordered the physics 2. I am seein that many are
using the physics 1 with 4th grader. My daughter is 8.5 and am
wondering if the physics 2 will be too advanced. She has been taking a
science class at the local museum from someone that does not hesitate
to teach them advanced stuff.
Also, is there a phone number where I can call someone. i just ordered
physics 2 and have not gotten a confirmation so not sure if they got
my order. Karen Thanks.

I posted earlier. I thought I had placed my order for the physics 2
but guess I hadn't. Now think I would like to ask a few questions
about what to buy. My daughter is 8.5 and reads at an advanced level.
Also, she has been taking a science class at the local museum from
someone who does not hold back on terminology, the teacher speaks at
an advanced level and has been taking it for about 3 years; however, I
don't know how advanced the level 2 is. Now, I am thinking she would
enjoy the chemistry more than physics. Has anyone done physics 2? She
enjoys astronomy but don't know how interesting the rest would be.
Would appreciate any input. Don't want to get something too simple
since she has taken so much science. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks. Karen

I posted earlier. I thought I had placed my order for the physics 2
but guess I hadn't. Now think I would like to ask a few questions
about what to buy. My daughter is 8.5 and reads at an advanced level.
Also, she has been taking a science class at the local museum from
someone who does not hold back on terminology, the teacher speaks at
an advanced level and has been taking it for about 3 years; however, I
don't know how advanced the level 2 is. Now, I am thinking she would
enjoy the chemistry more than physics. Has anyone done physics 2? She
enjoys astronomy but don't know how interesting the rest would be.
Would appreciate any input. Don't want to get something too simple
since she has taken so much science. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks. Karen

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Why don't you look at the sources being used and determine if those
books are written at her level? For physics 2, she'll be expected to
draw and write about that material, too.

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Hi, Carolyn.  I'm guessing your post hasn't been answered yet because
most of us on this list don't have high schoolers yet.  My 7th grader
is doing Biology 2 this year and will do Physics 2 next year for 8th
grade.  I don't think that it is too simple or juvenile at all for a
middle school level.  I don't know about high school, since we're not
there yet.  I think it just depends on what her post-high school plans
are, and what the entrance requirements are of any college she might
want to attend.  In my state (Colorado), the science requirements for
the state university system are 3 years of natural sciences, 2 of
which must be lab-based.  This can include physical science,
chemistry, biology, physics, astronomy, earth science, etc.  I think
it's possible that you could count Chemistry 2 & Biology 2 together as
a high school level "Physical Science", but I don't know because I
have no expertise in that area.  My daughter has already done Noeo
Chem 2, and we considered using Apologia Physical Science next year,
but after perusing through the text she decided that it looked really
boring, and I decided that it didn't seem to teach more than what was
in Noeo Chem 2 & Physics 2.  (Caveat:  I did not read the whole book,
only a couple of sections, and she hasn't done Physics 2 yet.)

Hopefully someone with a lot more knowledge will answer your
questions, but maybe my answer will be better than nothing.

-Helen

--- In noeo_homeschool_science_forum@yahoogroups.com, "erialicia2000"
<Erialicia@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there, My name is Carolyn and I just joined.
> I really need some advice.
> I have 2 daughters going into 5th and 8th grade.  For my older dd we
> tried Apologia General Science this year and it was too difficult and
> the textbook too dry and listless.  It was over both of our heads!
> She has not  had any formal Science since this is only our second yr
> HSing.  I pulled her out of PS in 6th grade.
> So I thought of a plan and really need some help deciding!
> To keep both girls together I was looking at a plan like this:
> 5th and 8th grade Biology 2
> 6th and 9th grade Chem 2
> 7th and 10 grade Physics 2
> after that using Rainbow Science possible which they said could be
> used as Highschool Science.
> Would Noeo be too juvinal for my older one?  Like I said she needs
> the basics of science in a fun manner, not complicated and over her
> head.
> I really want to keep them together so I don't have 2 major Science
> curriculums  going on at once.
> Also...what do some of you use for Highschool other than Apologia.
>
> Sorry for all the questions..im just losing sleep trying to decide
> what to so this year!
>
> Carolyn
>

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Hi, I'm new here also. I purchased and have been using Chemistry 2. We
are in week 2. When I ordered the books I thought I would be using
them with my kids in 4,5 and 7th grades. Right away I realized that my
4th grader would not be able to use it because it was to hard for her
to understand and she is not a science person. As I had prepared for
this it didn't bother me, however my 5th grader couldn't keep up by
the 2ed day. So I let his do something else also. My 7th grader is
enjoying it and learning a lot. We have done Apologia with our older
kids and they really liked it. (I had a friend to help my with the
experiments and they had friends come over once a week to help make it
more fun. I am so bad with science that I couldn't enjoy it alone.) I
feel that Chemistry 2 is about the same level as General Science with
Apologetics. I think their Physical Science was a little harder to
read and understand thou. I hope that helps.

Dawna
Homeschool mom of 5




--- In noeo_homeschool_science_forum@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Wood"
<awoodfam6@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Carolyn,
>
>
>
> I just wanted to pipe in that we just started Noeo for a 6th and 7th
grader,
> and are only on week 2.  We chose to use Chemistry II.  However, I
have to
> say, I'm shocked at how difficult it is.  I don't think it's the
curriculum
> that's so hard, as the subject matter.  They lay it out in a very
clear way,
> I just can't imagine doing this with a 5th grader!  I think the plan you
> have laid out sounds good, but like the other poster said, just
check with
> your state for high school requirements.  We are very impressed thus
far.
> We, too, did not really teach formal science until last year, other
than the
> years my daughter was in public school.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps!
>
>
>
> Shelly
>
>
>
> PS
>
> I would also check with Noeo's return policy, just in case you get
it, look
> it over, and find it too easy or too hard.  That would give you the
peace of
> mind that you can change it, rather than being stuck with something you
> don't like or need.  I personally think it will work great for your
older
> child.
>
>
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I bought "Chem 2" for my 8th grader this year. I know 8th grade sounds
so late ,but she just wasn't getting chemistry from using other
programs and books. Being older she was able to work independently and
breeze through the assignments; she only neeed 1 trimester to complete
it. But the really good news is that she gets the basic ideas now and
thinks chemistry is awesome. She felt that the Usborne Science
Encyclopedia & its internet-links were most helpful, as well as
interesting, in improving her comprehension of the subject.

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I bought "Chem 2" for my 8th grader this year. I know 8th grade sounds
so late ,but she just wasn't getting chemistry from using other
programs and books. Being older she was able to work independently and
breeze through the assignments; she only neeed 1 trimester to complete
it. But the really good news is that she gets the basic ideas now and
thinks chemistry is awesome. She felt that the Usborne Science
Encyclopedia & its internet-links were most helpful, as well as
interesting, in improving her comprehension of the subject.

I am trying to decide how to teach my 4 children ages 6.5, 9.5, 12 and
13 using NOEO.  Has anyone tried to coordinate the 2 physics programs
by changing the order of lessons so that some of the subjects overlap?
For those of you who have done either physics course, do you think it
will take away from the program if I chance the order of lessons?
Thanks for your opinions.  Nora

Anyone have any pictures they could upload of their successes with the
models?  I'm on digestive system and not sure if it's correct?

I am so excited to be able to order this year. We have three boys they
will be in K, 2nd, and 3rd this year. I order all three of the Level 1
programs this year. I know it sounds crazy, but I just couldn't
decide. We have twins on the way (due in early June) and I wanted to
have a ton of hands on stuff for the boys to do next year.

I am so excited this group is year. I plan to read th archives and ask
tons of questions.

Honey

Welcome, Honey!  I have 3 boys "entering" K, 2nd, and 4th this fall, though no babies on the way--congratulations!
 

Blessings,

Kris in MA
with dh & dss 9, 6, and 5

 

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Hey there,

I am looking over this curriculum for next year too. I will have a
2nd, 4th, and 7th grader. So you reccommend to do the Biology II with
the 7th grader instead of Apologia? I was thinking the Apologia Gen.
SCi. looked awfully "dry"--not many pics for a science book (which I
think helps with understanding of science)--so just wanted to know
for sure what you meant.

Thanks for your reply!
Mary Pat

I really wanted to like Apologia General Science, but after 8 chapters
of science history, scientific method, geology, fossils, and
archeology etc. she was really starting to dread it even though
Science is one of her favorite subjects. I found the reading for
myself very interesting as to the logic the author applies to science.
This, however, was lost on my daughter. She's going to do Chem 2 in
7th and Phys 2 in 8th grade. After that , we will probably give
Apologia another try with high school science.


--- In noeo_homeschool_science_forum@yahoogroups.com, "mpgof3"
<marypatproctor@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey there,
>
> I am looking over this curriculum for next year too. I will have a
> 2nd, 4th, and 7th grader. So you reccommend to do the Biology II with
> the 7th grader instead of Apologia? I was thinking the Apologia Gen.
> SCi. looked awfully "dry"--not many pics for a science book (which I
> think helps with understanding of science)--so just wanted to know
> for sure what you meant.
>
> Thanks for your reply!
> Mary Pat
>

I used Chemistry I with my kids this year and really enjoyed it.  I did
buy the YS Kits, but really felt like I didn't need them (although we
haven't started the geology portion yet.)  There were so many
experiments in the books that the kits seemed unnecessary.

My question is this.  How integral are the kits to the Physics I
program?  Can I get by without them or will we be missing too much?  I
thought I might just buy the Ein-O box and supplement the program with
a magnet set and anything else that seems necessary.

Thanks,
JoAnn

Hi!
We'll be doing Bio II next year and I'm looking for a used but good
copy of the Usborne Internet-Linked Mysteries and Marvels of Nature
book.  Anyone interested in parting with theirs at the end of the
school year or whenever you're done?  We're in no rush as we still
have a lot of Chem II to cover and will likely not move on to Bio
until maybe even december!

Nancy