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#30 From: "Ed Ward" <edward19@...>
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:14 pm
Subject: ICRC Organization advisory post: Start looking for a backup Main Plaintiff in LA
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Dear ICRC organization,

Please be advised you need to start looking for a backup Main Plaintiff in LA. 
I authorize and request the usage of my children as Main Complaintants in the
suit should the following come to realization.

Ed

Received the following and will be sending the following response to "Mel",
Robinson, DA 24 JD, Judge Feldman, and anyone else I can, to show these "dealers
of death and destruction" for what they really are.

SES-355             Reissued 11/06/01               PROD     LED7010        14
522
                                            000000312
24 JUDICIAL DISTRICT, DA'S OFFICE                          State of Louisiana
1546 GRETNA BOULEVARD                                       Dept. of Social
Services
HARVEY LA  70058                                                    Office of
Family Support
                                                                                 
Phone:  (504)364-3630



         Clarence Ward III
         3221 Canal St
         New Orleans, LA   70119

RE:  LASES No.:             000495592-02
         Custodial Parent:  SANDRA TYLER WARD

Dear CLARENCE WARD, III:

Your child support payments are presently in arrears.  Failure to take immediate
steps to bring your payments current will result in further enforcement action.

You have the right to request an administrative review of this section(s) taken
on your case. (?)   The purpose of the administrative review is to determine if
the action or proposed action is appropriate and in compliance with all
applicable federal and state laws and regulations.  A request for an
administrative review should be forwarded to the office which is handling the
case.

Enforcement activities that may be used include, but are not limited to, the
following:

-- Income assignment of up to 50% of your income, included but not limited to
wages, salary, interest, commission, independent contractor compensation,
DISABILITY INCOME (my emphasis), unemployement income, worker's compensation,
and bonuses;
-- Suspension of business, professional, driver's, hunting or fishing licenses;
(Very helpful to those trying to support their children and denial of rights to
secure food for any parent)
-- Interception of federal and state tax refund;
-- Posting security or bonds to secure payment of overdue support;
-- Offset of winnings from the Louisiana Lottery; (How many Non Custodial
Parents have won a lottery and not helped their children?)
-- Reporting the delinquency to  Credit Bureaus; (Funniest one yet, like Non
Custodial's have an credit left after being made to support 2 households on one
paycheck when, thanks to taxes, fees, etc., everyone knows it take 2 paychecks
to support one household.)
-- Liens being placed against your property.  (Homeless non custodial parent. 
Excellent encouragement for parenting and life.)
-- Siezure of assets/property; (Homeless non custodial parent.  Excellent
encouragement for parenting and life.)
-- Referral to the IRS for seizure and sale of your property; (Homeless non
custodial parent.  Excellent encouragement for parenting and life.) and/or
-- Legal action that my result in imprisonment.

To avoid any or all of these actions, pay your past due child support payments
or contact this office to make payment arrangements.

Sincerely yours,

SAMIKO M ROBINSON
SOCIAL SERVICES ANALYST INTAKE.

Dear Samiko M Robinson, 24 Judicial District, DA's Office, referring and trying
to be re-elected Judge Melvin "Mel" C. Zeno,

I REQUEST AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

Thank you for informing me of the Administrative Review.  Why was it not done
when I brought my 2 1/2 year fight with Social Security regarding my disability
determination, granted without a hearing since previous hearings facts were
determined to "exaggerations" by a non medical reviewer, to S. Robinson (Her
Handwritten Post-It with S. Robinson's name and phone # as documentation, as
well as a followup phone call telling me that all I needed to do was wait for
the court hearing) over 2 months ago?

Thank you Judge "Mel" for making me "deadbeat scum" and "underemployed" rather
than disabled and giving more than 100,000 dollars in savings to the costodial
parent of which my children saw very little benefit, along with 40,000 dollars
in attorneys fees trying to keep contact with my children and now have not heard
or seen my children in almost 2 years based on proven false allegations ignored
by Family Court Judge "Mel".  All disabled or potentially disabled should vote
for the Judge that knows a stroke, disability, or a downturned economy are just
excuses for "deadbeats".

Thank you 24 Judicial District DA's office for helping to insure the destruction
of non custodial parents.

Regarding your individual actions of destruction:

50% of my income threat.  Thank you so much for decreasing it to 1/2 my income. 
In the last 7 years, it has been from 1200% to infinite % (as 0, times or
divided gives a number of infinity).  So the the DRASTIC reduction to only 50%
of my as yet unreceived disability payments is appreciated.

License revocation threat.  I do not drive anymore and was forced into
retirement by being assessed child support thousands of times higher than salary
( 0 dollars earned, 2,500 dollars a month in savings assessed via
"underemployement" paid until savings gone).  No concern of being unable to
secure food from natural resources threat.  Addressed in summation.

Tax refund threat.  No money made no tax refund.

Posting security bond threat.  Addressed at summation.

Credit Bureau threat.  To late, my credit has been destroyed.  ( 0 dollars
earned, 2,500 dollars a month in savings assessed via "underemployement" paid
until savings gone.)

Liens on property threat.  Addressed at summation.

Seizure of property threat.  Addressed at summation.

Seizure of property by IRS threat. Addressed at summation.

Imprisonment threat.  See imprisonment request in addressed at summation.

Summation:

I CHOOSE MARTYRDOM over your threats and actions to myself and thousands of
other NCPs.

I will not pay one penny more when my children have been stolen from their
parent without Constitutional law requiring true due process.  I will die in
marytrdom first.  Please inform me of the court seizure planned dates on any
property or assets as death of the defendant is the only way to stop this
UnConstitutional tyranny, so that I may be dead in martyrdom to prevent such an
abuse.  Not like the access to my home that was given to my ex with a
Restraining Order, granted on subsequent proven false allegation, in which there
was an eyewitness to her removal of almost anything of value in my home under
police supervision.  This access is according to LA law is supposed to be served
on the "alledged" prior to showing up to remove property so that the alleged may
insure none of his property is taken.  It was purely accidental that a friend
was made aware of "persons" removing my belongings from my house and was able to
observe the thefts.  The police made sure they could remove ANYTHING they wanted
as the owner was removed from the house.  When the police in charge was told the
persons were stealing my personal property.  Oh, that is a civil matter.

I am not suicidal nor do I want harm to anyone else.  This is a completely non
violent personal stand.  I do not want to die, but, I most assuredly will for
like Thomas Jefferson, "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility
against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.", let alone tyranny over the
body of man.

Please be advised that imprisonment will hopefully give me the added incentive
necessary to discontinue eating to the death and have no problem with
interference with to that regard.  As a physician, I am keenly aware that no
amount of intereference can stop a person determined to die while incarcerated
for Constitutional abuses of this government against parents and children. I
take this stance to show my resistance to government tyranny granted by the
Constitution for political protest.

"To preserve the freedom of the human mind … and freedom of the press, every
spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may
think as we will, and speak as we think the condition of man will proceed in
improvement. The generation which is going off the stage has deserved well of
mankind for the struggles it has made, and for having arrested the course of
despotism which had overwhelmed the world for thousands and thousands of years.
If there seems to be danger that the ground they have gained will be lost again,
that danger comes from the generation your contemporary. But that the enthusiasm
which characterizes youth should lift its parricide hands against freedom and
science would be such a monstrous phenomenon as I cannot place among possible
things in this age and country."  Thomas Jefferson

"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have
perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted,
bastardized form of illegitimate government." --- James Madison.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the
sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." John Quincy Adams

Presently 40 States Sued in Federal Court regarding Constitutional Rights for
Non Custodial Parents Rights.
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/09/03/press.htm  Main Org:
http://www.indianacrc.org   LA State Branch Org:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/louisianacivilrightscouncil

District Judge, 24th JDC, Election Section 5, Division P

Melvin C. "Mel" Zeno, Democrat, Exp.Date:12/31/08  754 Terry Pkwy.,Terrytown, LA
70056, 504/393-2792 http://www.sec.state.la.us/cgibin/?rqstyp=COMP2&rqsdta=26

Ed Ward, MD
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/09/10/ward.htm
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/10/15/ward.htm
http://thepriceofliberty.org/ward.htm

In the works if possible: "T. R.", C. E! War! III, MaDe {"Blog-EZ"}
A Simple Blog for Oppressed and Suppressed Constitutional Rights.  On hold for
now.  ACLU article pushed back a couple days possibly.

#29 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:49 pm
Subject: another letter
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Dear Rep. Hubbard and Senator Little:

I would like to draw your attention to the recent letter I wrote to
my Alabama Congressmen in Washington, including Shelby, Rogers, and
Sessions, regarding the federal class action lawsuit I filed on
behalf of a quarter million noncustodial parents in Alabama.

It is now published officially on the web for all government
officials and millions of others to see and understand, at
Congress.Org  The URL for this letter, the one sent to Rogers by
example, is: http://tinyurl.com/5mwmh

As publicly elected officials, abusive and unlawful and
unconstitutional actions committed by government officials  - such
as those committed by family court judges against noncustodial
fathers (as in my well publicized case) and some mothers similarly
situated and against their children, are subject to state and
national scrutiny.  Public awareness of their inhumane acts that
egregiously violate our civil and U.S. constitutional rights is now
being focused via the mass filings of our class action lawsuits.

When you see your "friend" Lee County Circuit Judge Jacob A. Walker,
please share the fact that he is cited on Congress.Org and he is
notorious nationally as being one of the most unconscionable and
flagrant perpetrators of judicial child abuse, done via prejudice
and corruption, whatever his alleged reasons, however he justifies
his cruelty and unlawfulness by acting "under color of law."  He
circumvented at least 3 state laws and public policy essentially
prohibiting what he did, and he did so illegally and vindictively,
grossly abusing his office and oath of service.

The outrageous fact beyond Walker's criminal and abusive actions, is
that the state refuses to reign him in or even acknowledge his wrong
doings, let alone sanction him appropriately. Because the State of
Alabama refuses to act responsibly, or even acknowledge a civil
rights epidemic clearly of gargantuan proportions, this matter has
been taken to the federal courts. The continued violation of basic
rights and abuse of children in Alabama perpetuated by a gender-
biased judicial policy of "best interests of the child" used to
separate children from hundreds of thousands of parents, mostly
fathers, has to STOP. The state's continued refusal to address this
problem of  judicially created fatherlessness has and continues to
be responsible for the erosion of society and widespread damage to
youth (fatherless has been statistically significantly linked to
many serious consequences to our disenfranchised youth, including
increased rates of violent crime, incarceration, poverty,
illiteracy, substance and alcohol abuse, teen age pregnancy, teenage
suicide and depression, runaways, among others)

Before I finish, I want you to consider, in my case:  I have a
perfect record , I am a fit fit father and there is nothing,
absolutely nothing, that I am legally impeachable for, nothing
whatsoever. As best as I could as a noncustodial parent given less
than optimal time, I have raised my daughters since birth and taught
them and protected them as any good father would, I  provided a
religious background and values, and appropriate nonphysical
discipline to teach my daughters the difference between right and
wrong. Despite this, Judge Jacob Walker saw fit to permanently
banish me via a distant move away from being around my daughters at
all, and he effectually sealed its destruction. The mother he
granted this move with my children, however,  is A CONVICTED
CRIMINAL (the same evidence the Judge Walker chose to disregard as
being nonexistent). As  you know, there is state law constraining
her from having custody where the type of domestic violence she was
convicted is involved. The court also disregarded and in effect
RESCINDED new state protecting fit parents, like me,  and their
children from distant moveaways a law that was passed by the Alabama
legislature and Governor Riley two years ago, after many years of
hard work.  And, outrageously, the only reason for this move away of
my children and my grievous loss as a parent, was the STEPFATHER'S
decision to move out of state and chose a new job for his own career
(his family provided the legal funds). The stepfather has
no "rights" here, yet the court awarded him the relief he sought,
using the mother as specious bait. Again, totally violative of state
joint custody land anti-move away law and extremely consistent with
judicial bias against me.

The court, in effect, abrogated all my rights to my children, and
violated state law to do it. Again, I have done NOTHING ever
whatsoever (unlike the criminal actions of the mother) that would
allow the state to intrude and rescind my sovereign rights to to my
children and banish  me essentially permanently from them via an out-
of-state relocation. (I have not heard from them since the move, nor
do I expect to as they ware with a hostile mother, and
the "visitation" opportunities provided me by Walker are so
impracticable as to be impossible to meet).  In order to win her
case, my children were viciously alienated against me (Parental
Alienation Syndrome), bribed with new cars if they moved with their
mother, and influenced by the mother's lawyer how to be, what to do,
and  how to testify against me. We all know easily manipulated
teenage children can be by material things and persistent alienation
against one parent to side with one parent - the new Alabama anti-
move away law recognizes this by making a child's testimony or
preferences at the time only one of 16 factors to consider. Judge
Jacob Walker, it is very clear, disproportionately uses the
children's testimony as the MAJOR justification for his unlawful
abusive order. Walker also used the corrupt recommendations of a
Guardian ad item he illegally appointed, ostensibly to represent the
children, who was promoted by the mother's attorney and just
followed that attorney's recommendations - all collusion between the
court and lawyers to "justify" Walker's concocted predetermined
order destroying me as a father.

When I complained to Walker that my younger child was emotionally
disturbed and needed intensive counselling (due to her alienation,
and possibly abuse from the stepfather causing extreme internal
anger, she had made death threats against my family, and carved
expletives in to her wooden bed frame) that a move away at this time
of confusion where she would lose a father would be a"tragedy"  and
that I wanted him to order court-appointed counselling, Walker
irresponsibly concluded that therapy would "infringe on the future
legal rights of the mother concerning potential liability" and so he
refused totally ignoring the welfare of my child.  Isn't "judge"
Walker supposed to rule according to the "best interests of the
child" not the best interests of the MOTHER? Very, very abusive.

As representing me and many other non custodial parents who are your
constituents, you both appear to be ignoring this problem, despite
repeated requests. You have not even enquired about the federal
lawsuit affecting the State of Alabama and many of your
constituents.

I expect your support in this class action. And helping increase
public awareness of it and the reasons why noncustodial parents have
had enough state imposed abuse in their lives. You are my
representatives and I expect you to act as such.

Dr. Richard Weiss

_________________________________________


Dr. Weiss, a DiFC member, also represents the
Alabama Civil Rights Council.

He is the Principal Plaintiff for Alabama representing
an estimated 259,413 noncustodial parents seeking
$778.239 billion dollars in damages against Alabama.
This is part of the nationwide class action, discussed at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dadsinfamilycourt/message/3790

#28 From: deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: Human Rights, do they hear us in Albany
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Nice to meet you, Dan. I am Deborah Fellows. As for is there anything you can do....
Yes!!!
When is your appointment? If I could, I would love to join you! As for things you can do, write letters! See people. Try to get in on the children and family's committee. Helen Weinstein, Deborah Glick and such. The jjudicialcommittee is another great one. Ask these people what they are going to do about this problem..ask them if you can quote them on their response. (that gets them every time) Ask them where is the accountability for judicial actions.
Don't say your lobbing has gone unheard. We have the assembly and senate on edge right now.
Have you gone to this web site: http://www.fafny.org/toc.htm ? It's a very powerful lobbing group in which I am the Schenectady County Coordinator for. I would suggest you join in. Together we can conquer the government.


Debby Fellows
 
"if you're not part of the solution; you're part of the problem"
" POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"


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Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.

#27 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:01 pm
Subject: a fine example
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The following is a letter sent by a non custodial parent to the
court in La. Use it as an example of how you could write a letter to
your judge, Gary L. Sharpe - 445 Broadway - Albany, NY - 12207

Dear Honorable Martin L.C. Feldman,

I am asking you, Honorable Judge Martin L.C. Feldman, to open your
heart, ears, eyes  and Constitutional knowledge to the cries of
non-custodial parents and our children. We have been stripped of our
rights to be involved in the raising of our children as well as our
children's lives in general.

Under the Bill of Rights, US Constitution, we claim our inalienable
rights for both parents having equal access to their children and
their children to them.  A parent is a parent and neither parent
should be given more access, financial responsibility, ability to
care and nurture their child based on a "heavy hand or unequal eye"
that deprives a child of BOTH parent's protection and care.

"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you
will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only
end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government." ---
  James Madison.  No other interpretations of the Constitution are
acceptable.  The only ratified and affirmed oath of office
interpretation of the Constitution is the Original Intent
Interpretation, or, more appropriately, the Historical Background
Interpretation.

A Parent Is A Terrible Thing to Waste.

Furthermore, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has stated in her opinion
in Troxel v. Granville, "In light of this extensive precedent, it
cannot now be doubted that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment protects the fundamental right of parents to make
decisions concerning the care, custody, and control of their
children." "Parents have a fundamental constitutional right to rear
their children, including the right to determine who shall educate
and socialize them." [Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion.]
Parent's right to custody of child is a right encompassed within
protection of this amendment (first) which may not be interfered
with under guise of protecting public interest by legislative action
which is arbitrary or without reasonable relation to some purpose
within competency of state to effect. Reynold v. Baby Fold, Inc,
369 NE 2d 858; 68 Ill 2d 419, appeal dismissed 98 S Ct 1598, US 963,
Il, (1977) Law and Court procedures that are "fair on their faces"
but administered "with an evil eye or a heavy hand" was
discriminatory and violates the equal protection clause of the
fourteenth Amendment. Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 US 356, (1886).

By what right does any man, government or Judge hold
themselves "more smarter" than Common Law of Mankind, the
Constitution of America, God's, Nature's and Evolution's bequethes
to mankind.

"All authority belongs to the people... In questions of power let no
more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief
with chains of the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson

While Louisiana law states "Joint Custody", it is Still a Sole
Custody State. Civil Code, Section 3, "(3) The domiciliary parent
shall have authority to make all decisions affecting the child
unless an implementation order provides otherwise...." This shows
the reality of where the Louisiana Representatives of The People
place the Constitutional Rights of The People and in particular the
Rights of Families. How does a parent lose their Constitutional
Rights to their Child because 2 parents no longer live in the same
house? How does a Child lose their Constitutional Rights to their
Parent because they no longer live in the same house as both
parents? How can one have Joint Custody when the Custodial
Parent can Make All of the Decisions for the Child, including who
they see or talk to? Yick Wo.

A Constitution Is A Terrible Thing to Waste.

Non-custodial parents, such as myself, have been forced to accept
limited time and access with our children far below the equality
level both parents have a Constitutional right to have. It has
placed a great deal of hardship on our children and non-custodial
parents.

We, non-custodial Parents and our children are also suffering at the
same hands of the Family Courts by the automatic stipulations set
forth denying us equal placement with our children, which "we" have
never agreed to such stipulations. These stipulations have been made
without assigning any reason and without proof that one is an unfit
Parent.

However, our obligations to pay astronomical amounts of child
support are assigned with the reasons that "we" do not have equal
placement with our children. No where is it written in law that
two "fit" Parents can not have equal Parenting time with their
children.

We are very loving Parents, who want to be involved in our
children's lives and see fit that our children grow up to be
productive members of society. We Pray to the court to return our,
and our children's fundamental and Constitutional rights.

It is estimated that there are 1/4 to 1/3 of a Million fathers
incarcerated for being unable to pay their Assessed and Assigned
child support after having been made visitors to their children..
Supposedly, 250,000 to 350,000 fathers would rather be incarcerated,
lose their jobs, be made felons and some have even taken their lives
in jail, rather than pay for their children. Louisiana's quota would
be 5,000 jailed "encouraged" fathers. I've just mentioned fathers,
because they are By Far more "encouraged" than mothers, even though
mothers made NCPs are Far More likely not to contribute child
support for their children.

Another estimated 12,000 divorced fathers will take their lives in
suicides this year. That's one divorced dad every 45 minutes.
Louisiana's quota for fathers driven to suicide would be 250 dead
fathers.

A Child Is A Terrible Thing to Waste.

The predominance of child suicides, mental health problems, crime
and teen pregnancy come from sole parent custody homes. But, The
Constitution, death and devastation seem to matter little in an
industry that is as lucrative as divorce.

Sincerely,
A Simple Blog for Oppressed and Suppressed Constitutional Rights

#26 From: "Ed Ward" <edward19@...>
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:26 am
Subject: Upcoming article to ACLU regarding Class Action Suit in more than 40 States
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Upcoming article to ACLU regarding Class Action Suit in more than 40 States

Will be sending it snail mail to my wonderful ACLU branch in LA, Main
Headquarters and every email address I can find connected to them.  They have no
problem taking cases with womens rights or even womon's more equal rights, or
any other trivial BS.  Yet they ignore the Constitutional Rights of Families,
Parents and Children in Family Courts.  Feel like telling them to do their job? 
Write your own and beat me to the punch. Or send mine.  Or mix and match. 
Article will be out in 2 days max. One for my local press in LA will follow that
one in a couple days. And they will all get a link to the epublished story. 
Some information used will come out of my Judge letter in my federal lawsuit for
Constitutional Parent's/Children's Rights in Louisiana.  Only one state of more
than 40 similar state lawsuits, Uncovered by the press and ACLU.

Presently 40 States Sued in Federal Court regarding Constitutional Rights for
Non Custodial Parents Rights.
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/09/03/press.htm
Main Org: http://www.indianacrc.org
LA State Branch Org: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/louisianacivilrightscouncil 
See my LA site messages for other states. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/louisianacivilrightscouncil/message/14

Vote Michael Badnarik's platform of Constitutional Rights in All aspects of
government action for the only real change in American government.
http://badnarik.org/

Ed
Ed Ward, MD
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/10/15/ward.htm
http://thepriceofliberty.org/ward.htm

Section F - Judge Martin L.C. Feldman
500 Poydras Street
Room C555
New Orleans, LA 70130

RE: Ward, et al., v. Louisiana, #04-cv-2697 F 2

Dear Honorable Martin L.C. Feldman,

I am asking you, Honorable Judge Martin L.C. Feldman, to open your heart, ears,
eyes  and Constitutional knowledge to the cries of non-custodial parents and our
children. We have been stripped of our rights to be involved in the raising of
our children as well as our children’s lives in general.

Under the Bill of Rights, US Constitution, we claim our inalienable rights for
both parents having equal access to their children and their children to them. 
A parent is a parent and neither parent should be given more access, financial
responsibility, ability to care and nurture their child based on a "heavy hand
or unequal eye" that deprives a child of BOTH parent's protection and care.

"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have
perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted,
bastardized form of illegitimate government." --- James Madison.  No other
interpretations of the Constitution are acceptable.  The only ratified and
affirmed oath of office interpretation of the Constitution is the Original
Intent Interpretation, or, more appropriately, the Historical Background
Interpretation.

A Parent Is A Terrible Thing to Waste.

Furthermore, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has stated in her opinion in Troxel v.
Granville, "In light of this extensive precedent, it cannot now be doubted that
the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental
right of parents to make decisions concerning the care, custody, and control of
their children." "Parents have a fundamental constitutional right to rear their
children, including the right to determine who shall educate and socialize
them." [Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion.] Parent's right to custody of
child is a right encompassed within protection of this amendment (first) which
may not be interfered with under guise of protecting public interest by
legislative action which is arbitrary or without reasonable relation to some
purpose within competency of state to effect. Reynold v. Baby Fold, Inc, 369 NE
2d 858; 68 Ill 2d 419, appeal dismissed 98 S Ct 1598, US 963, Il, (1977) Law and
Court procedures that are "fair on their faces" but administered "with an evil
eye or a heavy hand" was discriminatory and violates the equal protection clause
of the fourteenth Amendment. Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 US 356, (1886).

By what right does any man, government or Judge hold themselves "more smarter"
than Common Law of Mankind, the Constitution of America, God's, Nature's and
Evolution's bequethes to mankind.

"All authority belongs to the people... In questions of power let no more be
heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief with chains of the
Constitution." Thomas Jefferson

While Louisiana law states "Joint Custody", it is Still a Sole Custody State.
Civil Code, Section 3, "(3) The domiciliary parent shall have authority to make
all decisions affecting the child unless an implementation order provides
otherwise...." This shows the reality of where the Louisiana Representatives of
The People place the Constitutional Rights of The People and in particular the
Rights of Families. How does a parent lose their Constitutional Rights to their
Child because 2 parents no longer live in the same house? How does a Child lose
their Constitutional Rights to their Parent because they no longer live in the
same house as both parents? How can one have Joint Custody when the Custodial
Parent can Make All of the Decisions for the Child, including who they see or
talk to? Yick Wo.

A Constitution Is A Terrible Thing to Waste.

Non-custodial parents, such as myself, have been forced to accept limited time
and access with our children far below the equality level both parents have a
Constitutional right to have. It has placed a great deal of hardship on our
children and non-custodial parents.

We, non-custodial Parents and our children are also suffering at the same hands
of the Family Courts by the automatic stipulations set forth denying us equal
placement with our children, which “we” have never agreed to such stipulations.
These stipulations have been made without assigning any reason and without proof
that one is an unfit Parent. However, our obligations to pay astronomical
amounts of child support are assigned with the reasons that “we” do not have
equal placement with our children. No where is it written in law that two “fit”
Parents can not have equal Parenting time with their children.

We are very loving Parents, who want to be involved in our children’s lives and
see fit that our children grow up to be productive members of society. We Pray
to the court to return our, and our children's fundamental and Constitutional
rights.

It is estimated that there are 1/4 to 1/3 of a Million fathers incarcerated for
being unable to pay their Assessed and Assigned child support after having been
made visitors to their children.. Supposedly, 250,000 to 350,000 fathers would
rather be incarcerated, lose their jobs, be made felons and some have even taken
their lives in jail, rather than pay for their children. Louisiana's quota would
be 5,000 jailed "encouraged" fathers. I've just mentioned fathers, because they
are By Far more "encouraged" than mothers, even though mothers made NCPs are Far
More likely not to contribute child support for their children.

Another estimated 12,000 divorced fathers will take their lives in suicides this
year. That's one divorced dad every 45 minutes. Louisiana's quota for fathers
driven to suicide would be 250 dead fathers.

A Child Is A Terrible Thing to Waste.

The predominance of child suicides, mental health problems, crime and teen
pregnancy come from sole parent custody homes. But, The Constitution, death and
devastation seem to matter little in an industry that is as lucrative as
divorce.


Sincerely,
A Simple Blog for Oppressed and Suppressed Constitutional Rights

#25 From: dan the man <romad63@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Human Rights, do they hear us in Albany
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Is there anything a layman like me can do to assist?
I have already been lobbying unsuccessfully i might ad
to get media coverage in albany on this.

on a positive note I did get an appt with someone from
Sen Joe Bruno's office - this suit is one of the items
on my agenda to discuss



--- deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...> wrote:

> Listen all:
> I have recieved my first responce from Attorney
> General's Eliot Spitzer's office today.
> I will be turning it in to the team of para legals
> and Torm to get advice on it.
> Of course it is asking for the case to be dismissed
> for several reasons. I will keep you informed on
> every level of this.
> Until we hear something from Gary L. Sharpe, it is
> still on.....
>
>
> Debby Fellows
>
> "if you're not part of the solution; you're part of
> the problem"
> " POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"
>
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#24 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:46 pm
Subject: case adjourned
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Full docket text for document 10:
LETTER REQUEST dated 10/14/2004 by Kenneth W.R. Rohling, and ORDER
regarding the Motion [5] MOTION for a Three-Judge Panel, [6] MOTION
to Certify Class, [7] MOTION for Consolidation and Transfer by the
Judicial Panel on Multi-District Litigation: The motion return date
of November 4, 2004 at 9:00 a.m. is ADJOURNED. All supporting papers
by the plaintiff are to be filed on or before November 3, 2004. Once
all motion papers have been received, the motions will be replaced
upon the court's calendar. Signed by Judge Gary L. Sharpe on
10/19/2004. (jel, )

In plain english: till further notice case is on hold. we will get
the paperwork in by the 3rd and then they will set another date.

This is the way this whole case will work, the federal courts don't
run exactly like your local courts where you go in and waste
everyone's time, they want it all set so every hearing is usefull.

#23 From: "peppy_la_dee" <mcarew@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:40 pm
Subject: Ideas on how to get the word out to others
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Here are some ideas I came up with. Some came to mind after I had
collected, and read, the signatures from the petition. Other ideas
have just popped into mind.

1. Copy and print the petition. Write the URL at the top and bottom
of the petition...you have my permission to do this.
Take it to work, church, family members whoever or where ever you can
think of. I stood outside my local Family Court room waiting for ncp
to come out of court and handed them the petition with the URL on it.
But, if you just "hang" it up somewhere it most likely will get
ripped down, so hold onto it. Also, there are a lot of ncp out there
who:
a. Don't have access to a computer
b. Are not literate in using one
c. Can not afford Internet service or a computer for that matter.
e. (the sad one) Most are afraid to sign for fear their name will be
public to the "ex"...rest assure it will not be as Torm and I are the
only people who see them.
If any of the above applies to ncp you know, maybe you can offer the
use of your computer to them; tell them the library has free use of
computers long enough to sign the petition, see if their is a
computer you can use at work or simply have them sign their name,
address and State to an additional piece of paper attached to the
petition and forward the names to me and I will add them to it. If
you can get just 10 people, those 10 will tell others and it grows
from there.

2. If anyone with a computer knows they can make that petition into a
three fold brochure to hand out, you can do that as well.

3. Find any local Parents support groups such as "Father's Rights",
these are great places to be heard at.

4. Make up a separate page of all the on-line support groups and give
that list to those who have access to a computer.

**Don't forget to have your Family members involved (i.e. Mother,
Father, Brother, sister, Aunts, uncles etc...) They too, can sign the
petition and support us in anyway they can.

These are just a few ideas to start out with, I will be bringing more
out to you.

Remember, THIS IS FOR CHILDREN!

Best Regards,
Dee Fiedler http://www.petitiononline.com/usncpr/petition.html

#22 From: deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Human Rights, do they hear us in Albany
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Listen all:
I have recieved my first responce from Attorney General's Eliot Spitzer's office today.
I will be turning it in to the team of para legals and Torm to get advice on it.
Of course it is asking for the case to be dismissed for several reasons. I will keep you informed on every level of this.
Until we hear something from Gary L. Sharpe, it is still on.....


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#21 From: deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
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Maryln, who are you talking about? John Sweeney? If you are, here is his address:
416 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: 202-225-5614
Fax: 202-225-6234
or
939 Route 146
Suite 430
Clifton Park, NY 12065
Phone: 518-371-8839
Fax: 518-371-9509


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#20 From: Marilyn and George <herbienym@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:58 am
Subject: Re: Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
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Do you have a email address for this loser.  I will write to him.  WE do not need people like him out there.  They wonder why politicians get the names that they do.

Marilyn



dan the man <romad63@...> wrote:
thanks - i had planned on voting for sweeney - now i
guess i have to look elsewhere


--- "E. Ross" <NetMgr@...> wrote:

> Yep, I'm pasting below an e-mail I sent out to a
> different forum some 3 months earlier.
>
> Gentlemen and ladies,
>
> You probably do not know (and not surprisingly so,
> as it's been kept hush-hush) that in our own
> backyard there is a congressional rep (Republican,
> for God's sake!) who is quietly sneaking in a US
> Bill to make it a federal crime to be behind on
> alimony. He is attempting to fashion the law exactly
> as it operates in Child Custody Cases. Talking about
> modern slavery! Talking about debt prisons! With
> "imputation" of income rampant in the US gestapo
> courts, and the job economy on a steep irreversable
> decline, what we have is a rapid expansion of the
> American Gulag. 
>
> Don't try to find any info on this bill on the
> Congressman's web-site.  He is a model all-American
> goody-two-shoes, good-looking former quarterback or
> whatever the heck he was, used car salesman type.
>
> His name is John E. Sweeney, of the 20th
> Congressional District (I believe it's Saratoga).
> I think the People must make sure The People's
> Representative (as well as the House Judiciary
> Committee) know what People think about the bill.
>
> = E. Ross
>

>
> Bill Summary & Status for the 108th Congress
>

>

>
> H.R.4861
> Title: To amend title 18, United States Code, to
> provide penalties for failure to pay certain
> obligations to spouses and ex-spouses that are
> similar to the penalties imposed for failure to pay
> child support obligations, and for other purposes.
> Sponsor: Rep Sweeney, John E. [NY-20] (introduced
> 7/19/2004)      Cosponsors (1)
> Latest Major Action: 7/19/2004 Referred to House
> committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee
> on the Judiciary.
>
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> COSPONSORS(1), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors
> withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)
>
>       Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] - 7/19/2004
>     
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: dan the man
>   To: newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:17 PM
>   Subject: Re: [newyorkcivilrightscouncil] Re: us
> wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
>
>
>   do you have the bill number I would be interested
> in
>   reading it.
>
>
>
>   --- netethics07 <NetMgr@...> wrote:
>
>   >
>   > Dear Deborah:
>   >
>   > You are quite right that he's "a politician."
>   >
>   > John Sweeney has snuck into the US House of
> Rep's a
>   > bill to federally
>   > criminalize falling behind on alimony, similar
> to
>   > Michigan's
>   > legislature where it is a felony punishable up
> to 6
>   > years in prison,
>   > and House adopted (not yet ratified by Senate)
> -- 10
>   > years.
>   >
>   > John Sweeney is a snake in the grass.
>   >
>   >
>   > --- In
> newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com,
>   > deborah fellows
>   > <dafellows2001@y...> wrote:
>   > > letter sent to author. thank you for pointing
> that
>   > out :) i have
>   > printed versions of it where I have personally
>   > changed the wording
>   > and will be doing a mailing of it directly to
> the
>   > people. if you want
>   > to do the same, please feel free to do so.
>   > > the way i worked it out is that i put them in
>   > places that i
>   > frequent and will go back in a few days and get
> the
>   > signed ones and
>   > leave fresh ones, places like my favorite
>   > restaurant, police
>   > stations, lawyers offices  and the gas station.
>   > > every little bit helps.
>   > > We met with Congressman John Sweeney's office
> (a
>   > representer for)
>   > today and addressed the issues in the suit
> without
>   > telling him
>   > directly about the suit.
>   > > All went well but hey, he's just a
> politician...he
>   > did say that he
>   > stood by the constitution and I mentioned that
> he
>   > should stand by the
>   > issues because no one has the right to take a
> fit
>   > parent from a
>   > child's life. He agreed.
>   > > We'll see.
>   > > Thanks for joining.
>   > > 
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Debby Fellows
>   > > 
>   > > "if you're not part of the solution; you're
> part
>   > of the problem"
>   > > " POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"
>   > >
>   >

>
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#19 From: Marilyn and George <herbienym@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Human Rights, do they hear us in Albany
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We just need to keep the letters going and to hit every newspaper we can.  I will be there on the Fourth.  Deb is hoping to catch a flight up to join us.

Marilyn



deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...> wrote:
Yes we have sent it to Albany before and yes we do need new legislators in office. So what do we do?
#1 VOTE ON NOVEMEBER 2nd
#2 BE THERE AT THE ORAL ARGUMENTS ON THE 4th.
They will never change until we change them.
 


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#18 From: deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: Human Rights, do they hear us in Albany
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Yes we have sent it to Albany before and yes we do need new legislators in office. So what do we do?
#1 VOTE ON NOVEMEBER 2nd
#2 BE THERE AT THE ORAL ARGUMENTS ON THE 4th.
They will never change until we change them.
 


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#17 From: dan the man <romad63@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
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thanks - i had planned on voting for sweeney - now i
guess i have to look elsewhere


--- "E. Ross" <NetMgr@...> wrote:

> Yep, I'm pasting below an e-mail I sent out to a
> different forum some 3 months earlier.
>
> Gentlemen and ladies,
>
> You probably do not know (and not surprisingly so,
> as it's been kept hush-hush) that in our own
> backyard there is a congressional rep (Republican,
> for God's sake!) who is quietly sneaking in a US
> Bill to make it a federal crime to be behind on
> alimony. He is attempting to fashion the law exactly
> as it operates in Child Custody Cases. Talking about
> modern slavery! Talking about debt prisons! With
> "imputation" of income rampant in the US gestapo
> courts, and the job economy on a steep irreversable
> decline, what we have is a rapid expansion of the
> American Gulag.
>
> Don't try to find any info on this bill on the
> Congressman's web-site.  He is a model all-American
> goody-two-shoes, good-looking former quarterback or
> whatever the heck he was, used car salesman type.
>
> His name is John E. Sweeney, of the 20th
> Congressional District (I believe it's Saratoga).
> I think the People must make sure The People's
> Representative (as well as the House Judiciary
> Committee) know what People think about the bill.
>
> = E. Ross
>
>
>
> Bill Summary & Status for the 108th Congress
>
>
>
>
>
> H.R.4861
> Title: To amend title 18, United States Code, to
> provide penalties for failure to pay certain
> obligations to spouses and ex-spouses that are
> similar to the penalties imposed for failure to pay
> child support obligations, and for other purposes.
> Sponsor: Rep Sweeney, John E. [NY-20] (introduced
> 7/19/2004)      Cosponsors (1)
> Latest Major Action: 7/19/2004 Referred to House
> committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee
> on the Judiciary.
>
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> COSPONSORS(1), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors
> withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)
>
>       Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] - 7/19/2004
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: dan the man
>   To: newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:17 PM
>   Subject: Re: [newyorkcivilrightscouncil] Re: us
> wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
>
>
>   do you have the bill number I would be interested
> in
>   reading it.
>
>
>
>   --- netethics07 <NetMgr@...> wrote:
>
>   >
>   > Dear Deborah:
>   >
>   > You are quite right that he's "a politician."
>   >
>   > John Sweeney has snuck into the US House of
> Rep's a
>   > bill to federally
>   > criminalize falling behind on alimony, similar
> to
>   > Michigan's
>   > legislature where it is a felony punishable up
> to 6
>   > years in prison,
>   > and House adopted (not yet ratified by Senate)
> -- 10
>   > years.
>   >
>   > John Sweeney is a snake in the grass.
>   >
>   >
>   > --- In
> newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com,
>   > deborah fellows
>   > <dafellows2001@y...> wrote:
>   > > letter sent to author. thank you for pointing
> that
>   > out :) i have
>   > printed versions of it where I have personally
>   > changed the wording
>   > and will be doing a mailing of it directly to
> the
>   > people. if you want
>   > to do the same, please feel free to do so.
>   > > the way i worked it out is that i put them in
>   > places that i
>   > frequent and will go back in a few days and get
> the
>   > signed ones and
>   > leave fresh ones, places like my favorite
>   > restaurant, police
>   > stations, lawyers offices  and the gas station.
>   > > every little bit helps.
>   > > We met with Congressman John Sweeney's office
> (a
>   > representer for)
>   > today and addressed the issues in the suit
> without
>   > telling him
>   > directly about the suit.
>   > > All went well but hey, he's just a
> politician...he
>   > did say that he
>   > stood by the constitution and I mentioned that
> he
>   > should stand by the
>   > issues because no one has the right to take a
> fit
>   > parent from a
>   > child's life. He agreed.
>   > > We'll see.
>   > > Thanks for joining.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Debby Fellows
>   > >
>   > > "if you're not part of the solution; you're
> part
>   > of the problem"
>   > > " POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"
>   > >
>   >
>
>
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#16 From: "E. Ross" <NetMgr@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
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Yep, I'm pasting below an e-mail I sent out to a different forum some 3 months earlier.
 
Gentlemen and ladies,
 
You probably do not know (and not surprisingly so, as it's been kept hush-hush) that in our own backyard there is a congressional rep (Republican, for God's sake!) who is quietly sneaking in a US Bill to make it a federal crime to be behind on alimony. He is attempting to fashion the law exactly as it operates in Child Custody Cases. Talking about modern slavery! Talking about debt prisons! With "imputation" of income rampant in the US gestapo courts, and the job economy on a steep irreversable decline, what we have is a rapid expansion of the American Gulag.  
 
Don't try to find any info on this bill on the Congressman's web-site.  He is a model all-American goody-two-shoes, good-looking former quarterback or whatever the heck he was, used car salesman type.
 
His name is John E. Sweeney, of the 20th Congressional District (I believe it's Saratoga).
I think the People must make sure The People's Representative (as well as the House Judiciary Committee) know what People think about the bill.
 
= E. Ross
 

 

Bill Summary & Status for the 108th Congress

 

 

H.R.4861
Title: To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide penalties for failure to pay certain obligations to spouses and ex-spouses that are similar to the penalties imposed for failure to pay child support obligations, and for other purposes.
Sponsor:
Rep Sweeney, John E. [NY-20] (introduced 7/19/2004)      Cosponsors (1)
Latest Major Action: 7/19/2004 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.


COSPONSORS(1), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] - 7/19/2004

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [newyorkcivilrightscouncil] Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)

do you have the bill number I would be interested in
reading it.



--- netethics07 <NetMgr@...> wrote:

>
> Dear Deborah:
>
> You are quite right that he's "a politician."
>
> John Sweeney has snuck into the US House of Rep's a
> bill to federally
> criminalize falling behind on alimony, similar to
> Michigan's
> legislature where it is a felony punishable up to 6
> years in prison,
> and House adopted (not yet ratified by Senate) -- 10
> years.
>
> John Sweeney is a snake in the grass.
>
>
> --- In newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com,
> deborah fellows
> <dafellows2001@y...> wrote:
> > letter sent to author. thank you for pointing that
> out :) i have
> printed versions of it where I have personally
> changed the wording
> and will be doing a mailing of it directly to the
> people. if you want
> to do the same, please feel free to do so.
> > the way i worked it out is that i put them in
> places that i
> frequent and will go back in a few days and get the
> signed ones and
> leave fresh ones, places like my favorite
> restaurant, police
> stations, lawyers offices  and the gas station.
> > every little bit helps.
> > We met with Congressman John Sweeney's office (a
> representer for)
> today and addressed the issues in the suit without
> telling him
> directly about the suit.
> > All went well but hey, he's just a politician...he
> did say that he
> stood by the constitution and I mentioned that he
> should stand by the
> issues because no one has the right to take a fit
> parent from a
> child's life. He agreed.
> > We'll see.
> > Thanks for joining.
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Debby Fellows
> > 
> > "if you're not part of the solution; you're part
> of the problem"
> > " POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"
> >
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#15 From: dan the man <romad63@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
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do you have the bill number I would be interested in
reading it.



--- netethics07 <NetMgr@...> wrote:

>
> Dear Deborah:
>
> You are quite right that he's "a politician."
>
> John Sweeney has snuck into the US House of Rep's a
> bill to federally
> criminalize falling behind on alimony, similar to
> Michigan's
> legislature where it is a felony punishable up to 6
> years in prison,
> and House adopted (not yet ratified by Senate) -- 10
> years.
>
> John Sweeney is a snake in the grass.
>
>
> --- In newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com,
> deborah fellows
> <dafellows2001@y...> wrote:
> > letter sent to author. thank you for pointing that
> out :) i have
> printed versions of it where I have personally
> changed the wording
> and will be doing a mailing of it directly to the
> people. if you want
> to do the same, please feel free to do so.
> > the way i worked it out is that i put them in
> places that i
> frequent and will go back in a few days and get the
> signed ones and
> leave fresh ones, places like my favorite
> restaurant, police
> stations, lawyers offices  and the gas station.
> > every little bit helps.
> > We met with Congressman John Sweeney's office (a
> representer for)
> today and addressed the issues in the suit without
> telling him
> directly about the suit.
> > All went well but hey, he's just a politician...he
> did say that he
> stood by the constitution and I mentioned that he
> should stand by the
> issues because no one has the right to take a fit
> parent from a
> child's life. He agreed.
> > We'll see.
> > Thanks for joining.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Debby Fellows
> >
> > "if you're not part of the solution; you're part
> of the problem"
> > " POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newyorkcivilrightscouncil/messages
> >
> >
> >
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#14 From: "netethics07" <NetMgr@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: us wide petition for fed suit
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I agree with someone here who noted that the language of the petition
may be questionable in this or that aspect of it. It's extremely hard
to craft a petition which would satisfy most potential signers, yet --
it's extremely important for gathering a large number of signatures.

A great many people won't sign it, just because they feel it's naive
or for any other number of reasons concerning its form. Many of such
petition initiatives peter out due to this reason.


--- In newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com, "dafellows2001"
<dafellows2001@y...> wrote:
>
>
> sign on guys and gals:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/usncpr/petition.html

#13 From: "netethics07" <NetMgr@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: us wide petition for fed suit (John Sweeney.)
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Dear Deborah:

You are quite right that he's "a politician."

John Sweeney has snuck into the US House of Rep's a bill to federally
criminalize falling behind on alimony, similar to Michigan's
legislature where it is a felony punishable up to 6 years in prison,
and House adopted (not yet ratified by Senate) -- 10 years.

John Sweeney is a snake in the grass.


--- In newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com, deborah fellows
<dafellows2001@y...> wrote:
> letter sent to author. thank you for pointing that out :) i have
printed versions of it where I have personally changed the wording
and will be doing a mailing of it directly to the people. if you want
to do the same, please feel free to do so.
> the way i worked it out is that i put them in places that i
frequent and will go back in a few days and get the signed ones and
leave fresh ones, places like my favorite restaurant, police
stations, lawyers offices  and the gas station.
> every little bit helps.
> We met with Congressman John Sweeney's office (a representer for)
today and addressed the issues in the suit without telling him
directly about the suit.
> All went well but hey, he's just a politician...he did say that he
stood by the constitution and I mentioned that he should stand by the
issues because no one has the right to take a fit parent from a
child's life. He agreed.
> We'll see.
> Thanks for joining.
>
>
>
>
> Debby Fellows
>
> "if you're not part of the solution; you're part of the problem"
> " POST HOC ERGO PROPTER HOC"
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newyorkcivilrightscouncil/messages
>
>
>
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#12 From: "Ed Ward" <edward19@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:20 am
Subject: Needed Your State Judge Information: Or this site will no longer be included.
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Section F - Judge Martin L.C. Feldman (Your State Judges Name)
500 Poydras Street                               (Your State Judges Address)
Room C555
New Orleans, LA 70130

RE: Ward, et al., v. Louisiana, #04-cv-2697 F 2    (Your State Judges
Referrence)

This is what I need from each state.  Send to edward19@...

If this has been done (see below) your state will still be included in my
information.  If not all references to your state will be dropped in all sources
of my information.  I will not be party to sending people to a non-responsive
site.  I would rather send them to a responsive site or No Site or my site or
another active site.  We need some letters now.  Most states seem to be running
around 10 NCP's joined.  We must do alot better than that.  LA must do better
than that, my state requires more time to do that.

If your state site does not send the required above information to be included
below, your contact will be cut.  So far my time is cut down to 6 or so states. 
Awesome, keep up the good work other states and I will soon have alot less
things to worry about.  The list below will only include the ones with judge
information.  Alot easer reading too.

Thank you.

Ed



Alabama:  Dr. Richard Weiss  alabamacrc@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alabamacrc

Alaska: Kevin Francis Ramey  AlaskaClassAction@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlaskaClassAction

Arizona: Scott Leska  arizonacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arizonacivilrightscouncil

Arkansas:  Kinley Hardin
http://www.stewart-house.com/arkansas.htm

California: Pete Clark
http://www.livebeatdads.us

Colorado: Troy Kramer  coloradocivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coloradocivilrightscouncil

Connecticut: Chris Kennedy  connecticutcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/connecticutcivilrightscouncil

Delaware: Russell P. Smith, Sr.  delawarecivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delawarecivilrightscouncil

District of Columbia: Maurice King  NonCustodialParentsforChange@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NonCustodialParentsforChange

Florida: Miguel Martin  floridacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/floridacivilrightscouncil

Judge Adalberto Jordan
District Judge
United States District Court
Southern District of Florida
301 North Miami Avenue,
Miami, FL. 33131.
RE: Martin, et al., vs Florida, CASE #: 04-22385

Georgia: Richard Stewart
http://www.stewart-house.com/classaction.htm

Illinois: Robert G. Lasheff  ILLINOISFAMILYADVOCACY@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ILLINOISFAMILYADVOCACY

Indiana: Torm Howse
http://www.indianacrc.org

Judge John D. Tinder
US District Court for the Southern District of Indiana
Indianapolis Division
46 East Ohio Street
Indianapolis, IN  46204
Re: Howse, et al., v. Indiana, CASE #: 1:04-cv-1530-JDT-TAB

Iowa: Robert G. Lisk  Equal_Iowa_Parents@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Equal_Iowa_Parents

Kansas: Thomas Lessman & John Schmeidler
http://www.acfc-ks.org/KS_Class_Action.htm

Kentucky: Wes Collins  KentuckyFamilyOrganization@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.msn.com/KentuckyFamilyOrganization

Louisiana: Clarence Edward "Ed" Ward, III 
louisianacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/louisianacivilrightscouncil

Section F - Judge Martin L.C. Feldman
500 Poydras Street
Room C555
New Orleans, LA 70130
RE: Ward, et al., v. Louisiana, CASE #: 04-cv-2697 F 2

Maine: Eric Ericson  mainecivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mainecivilrightscouncil

Maryland: Christopher Yavelow  @yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mdcrc

Massachusetts: Joe Schebel  massachusettscivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/massachusettscivilrightscouncil

Michigan: Michael T. Ross  michparentsclassactionsuit@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michparentsclassactionsuit

Minnesota: Dave Witte
http://www.legalactioncommittee.org

Mississippi: Angel Robinson  NCPrights@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NCPrights

Missouri: Jon Klement
http://www.demandthefacts.net

Montana: Deanna Prouty  speakmt@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speakmt

Judge: Honorable Donald Malloy
U.S. District Court of Montana
Russell Smith Federal Building
201 East Broadway, Missoula, MT 59802
RE: Earl Erickson et al. Vs  The State of Montana, CASE #: CV-04197-M-DWM

Nebraska: Curt Morehouse
http://www.fathersrightsne.org

Nevada: Alan DiCicco  cfcr1997@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cfcr1997

New Hampshire: Rachel Forrest  nhclassaction@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhclassaction

New Jersey: Vincent Urbank  newjerseycivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newjerseycivilrightscouncil

New Mexico: Michael J. Pettit  newmexicocivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newmexicocivilrightscouncil

New York: Randall L. Dickinson & Debby Fellows 
newyorkcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newyorkcivilrightscouncil

North Carolina: Lenny McAllister 
northcarolinacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/northcarolinacivilrightscouncil

North Dakota: Roland Riemers  northdakotacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/northdakotacivilrightscouncil

Ohio: Scott Strohm  OhioClassAction@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OhioClassAction

The Honorable Judge Smith
United States District Court
Southern District of Ohio, Eastern Division
85 Marconi Boulevard
Columbus, Ohio 43215
Re: Strohm, et al. v. Ohio, CASE #: C2 04 910


Oklahoma: Greg Chapman  oklahomacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oklahomacivilrightscouncil

Oregon: Susan Detlefsen  pancp@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OregonNonCustodialClass

Pennsylvania: Curtis Patton  @yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pancp

Rhode Island: Seth I. Donohue  rhodeislandcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rhodeislandcivilrightscouncil

South Carolina: Nikki Fitzgerald  SCCRC@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCCRC

South Dakota: Randy Haack  southdakotacivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southdakotacivilrightscouncil

Tennessee: Tony Gottlieb
http://www.tndads.org

Texas: Mark Bitara  USA-Noncustodials@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USA-Noncustodials

Utah: Eric Clarke
http://www.UtahParentsUnderSiege.com

Vermont: David Donley  vermontcivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vermontcivilrightscouncil

Virginia: Harold Leist
http://www.leist.us

Judge Jackson L. Kiser
CASE #: 4:04CV00069
United States District Court
PO Box 1400
700 Main Street Room 202
Danville, VA  24541
Re: Leist, et al., v. Virginia, CASE #: 4:04CV00069

Washington: Perry Manley  washingtoncivilrightscouncil@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/washingtoncivilrightscouncil

Judge: Honorable Ricardo S. Martinez
700 Stewart Street
Seattle, WA 98101
Re: Greg M. Howe, et al., v. State of Washington, CASE #: C04-2028RSM

West Virginia: Tim Fittro  wvmad@yahoogroups.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wvmad

Wisconsin: Dan Creed
http://www.wiparents.org

If your state is not listed and you would like it to be, go to:
http://www.indianacrc.org
If you would like to see the class action documents: http://www.leist.us  The
Virginia version. The only differences are the individuals, individual states
names.  Everything else is the same for all states.

#11 From: "herbienym" <herbienym@...>
Date: Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:27 am
Subject: Human Rights, do they hear us in Albany
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WE have sent all the proven documention to the key legislators in
Albany, and they still do not hear us.  It is about time to elect
caring people without a hearing problem and give the children back
their parents.  We NEED Shared Parenting legislation in this country
and we needed it yesterday.

#10 From: "Ed Ward" <edward19@...>
Date: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:41 pm
Subject: Could use a list of State Judges addresses and court docket numbers
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Section F - Judge Martin L.C. Feldman
500 Poydras Street
Room C555
New Orleans, LA 70130

RE: Ward, et al., v. Louisiana, #04-cv-2697 F 2

This is what I need from each state.  Send to edward19@...

Thank you.

Ed

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http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/09/10/ward.htm
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#9 From: deborah fellows <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: us wide petition for fed suit
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letter sent to author. thank you for pointing that out :) i have printed versions of it where I have personally changed the wording and will be doing a mailing of it directly to the people. if you want to do the same, please feel free to do so.
the way i worked it out is that i put them in places that i frequent and will go back in a few days and get the signed ones and leave fresh ones, places like my favorite restaurant, police stations, lawyers offices  and the gas station.
every little bit helps.
We met with Congressman John Sweeney's office (a representer for)today and addressed the issues in the suit without telling him directly about the suit.
All went well but hey, he's just a politician...he did say that he stood by the constitution and I mentioned that he should stand by the issues because no one has the right to take a fit parent from a child's life. He agreed.
We'll see.
Thanks for joining.
 


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#8 From: Susan <suebee46_2000@...>
Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: us wide petition for fed suit
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--- dafellows2001 <dafellows2001@...> wrote:

>
>
> sign on guys and gals:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/usncpr/petition.html
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#7 From: Susan <suebee46_2000@...>
Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: us wide petition for fed suit
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I think this is a great petition, however, it should
not single out fathers (although they are the biggest
group affected). Non-custodial mothers should also be
mentioned in this petition, because we are seeking the
same redress as the NC dads. Can this be addressed?

Sue

--- dafellows2001 <dafellows2001@...> wrote:

>
>
> sign on guys and gals:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/usncpr/petition.html
>
>
>
>


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#6 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:05 pm
Subject: us wide petition for fed suit
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#5 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:46 am
Subject: where to write the judge
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Judge Gary L. Sharpe
445 Broadway
Albany, NY 12207

Governor George Pataki and Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
New York State Building
Albany, NY 12224

#4 From: "peppy_la_dee" <mcarew@...>
Date: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:57 pm
Subject: I would like to write to the Judge
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I would like to write a letter to the Judge in your State, however, I
need the name, address and case number.

Would you be so kind as to post it so I and other's can send the
letter out.

I will also forward a copy to you for your records.

Thank you,

Dee Fiedler  http://www.petitiononline.com/usncpr/petition.html

#3 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:57 pm
Subject: suit
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There is no "paperwork" as of yet to file. All has been done for
you. Within the first few arguments that are scheduled, the judge,
Gary L. Sharpe, will decide how to get the names of those that are
quilified to join.
That is why it is so important for as many of you as possible to
send letters to the judge supporting the action and to actually show
up at the hearings, which are public.
Please send this link to everyone you know in this boat.
Thanks.

#2 From: Doug Storm <dougstorm@...>
Date: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:05 pm
Subject: Joining class action
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Is there a contact phone number that I can call to have the appropriate
paperwork sent to me to file?

#1 From: "dafellows2001" <dafellows2001@...>
Date: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:20 am
Subject: hello-who are we?
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Hi everyone. So you all want to know what can be done for you? Well
first off let me tell you what has already been done.
On September 17, 2004 at the James T. Foley courthouse in Albany, New
York a class action suit was filed on behalf of all fit non-custodial
parents.
I am not here to help those that hurt their children in anyway, shape
or form.
The primary plaintiff is Kenneth W.R. Rohling ~ father of two very
hurt children. Ken is a kind and gentle soul, a loving father and
devoted family man.
His children are victims of bitterness and greed but more
importantly, of the court system.
These children, along with Ken have been denied their civil rights to
be a family for no other reason, in the words of the judge, because I
am the judge, and because of that, he can, and did rip this family
apart.
Now onto you, what can you do to become a part of this suit? First
off, you must be fit to be a parent. No confirmed child abuse of any
sort.
Second, you must be the non-custodial parent, or as they call it in
NY, not the legal custodial parent.
On November 4, 2004 at 445 Broadway in Albany, the federal court
building there will be the first of the oral arguments. We want you
all to be there. What would the state say if all the non-custodial
parents were to show up? Would they be able to deny that this is a
problem? No they wouldn't. What would they say if Ken is standing
there on behalf of all of you? Well they might just laugh at him. And
in turn, they would be laughing at you.
I want you all to write a letter to Judge Gary L. Sharpe of that
courthouse telling him why you support the suit.
I want you all to go to http://www.indianacrc.org/ and check out the
suit.
This suit has been filed in over 40 states as of tonight. The federal
and state governments are listening to us. They see us, now only if
we walk from behind these screens and show that we are real, they
will once again respect us.
I know you are, I have met with hundreds of you. I have talked to
your children. I have seen all of your tears. I have seen the harm
this has done to our culture.
It is domestic terrorism at it's best. When your civil rights have
been stripped from you and you are held as a prisoner in your own
life, what more is there to do?
Stand up and fight the good fight. Take it out of the family courts
and put it where it counts.
If they could do this in the 1700's we can surely do it in 2004.
Oh yea, DON'T FORGET TO VOTE! Your assembly has been voted the worse
in the nation. It has screwed you from day one, isn't it time that
you take control of your life? Or do you really secretly like it this
way?
Just checking. ;)

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