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this was from another group - and further proof that
the claim there isnt a bias against fathers and NCP's
is a lie.




> NEWS RELEASE
> Monday, August 9, 2005
>
> FAIRFAX, VA, Yesterday Judge Davis sentenced a
Virginia father to 6
> months in jail for attending his handicapped son's
class party at
> Springhill Elementary in McLean last June 17th.
>
> Mr Smith was warned in advance by several attorneys
that it didn't
> matter if he proved he was innocent that he would
still be
> convicted. The idea that attorneys belive that
being innocent
> won't help certainly gives plenty reason for concern
about with out
> "justice" system.
>
> While the outcome of the "trial" was never really in
doubt what was
> surprising was how obvious the kangaroo ears were in
the courtroom
> (Kangaroo Court). Judge Davis turned angry and
verbally abusive
> when Mr. Smith was called to testify. Judge Davis
threatened to not
> let Mr. Smith testify in his own defense as required
by the
> Constitution when Mr Smith started to explain that
his son was in
> Special Ed and not first grade. Judge Davis in a
very angry and
> harsh tone told Mr Smith that if he didn't want to
play by the
> rules and say "yes" or "no" that he wouldn't listen
to him. Since
> Mr. Smiths son has Down Syndrome and is in Special
Ed but spends
> part of his day in a first grade classroom the
question couldn't be
> honestly answered with a YES or NO.
>
> Spring Hill Elementary School Principal Roger
Vanderhye gave a very
> interesting revision of history, describing Mr.
Smith going to the
> office and being directed to sign in and take a
visitor pass as the
> office staff being frantic and calling him for help.
He described
> teacher Ms. Richards and staff as being terrified of
Mr Smith when
> in fact they introduced themselves, gave Mr. Smith
lunch,
> encouraged Liam to give his father the fathers-day
gift he had
> made. Somehow a principal who was twice as close to
Liam Smith as
> he was to Ms Richards could make out she was
terrified but
> completely failed to notice that Liam hugged his
father, kissed
> him said he loved him and thanked him for coming to
the party. Did
> Roger Vanderhye forget that Mr. Smith has a tape
recording to prove
> Mr Vanderhye lied under oath or is he counting on
the fact that
> Judge Davis doesn't care he is committing perjury.
>
> Both sides agreed Mr Smith walked to the soccer
fields when told to
> leave and that there are no signs, fence or other
indication to
> support their claim that it was school property
instead of a public
> soccer field. Mr Smith presented a photo of the
field with a sign
> that clearly identified it as "McLean Youth Soccer
Field".
>
> The best example of the Kangaroo style Court Judge
Davis presided
> over was with the description of the class,
including Mr. Smith and
> his son, lining up in a single file line to head out
to the soccer
> fields for the three-legged race. This was described
by the
> prosecution as an "evacuation" of the classroom due
to Mr. Smith'
> presence. A close second was when they blamed Mr.
Smith for the
> trauma of the children for being arrested in front
of them.
>
> The prosecutor demanded jail time for the offense of
showing up for
> his sons party, following the rules, signing in,
being quiet, and
> trying to show that he still loved his son.
Apparently having kept
> Mr Smith in jail for Fathers-Day-Weekend wasn't
enough punishment
> for trying to be a good parent.
>
> Judge Davis in issuing his ruling lectured Mr. Smith
on the
> importance of following rules and in a sarcastic
tone asked Mr.
> Smith how many days in jail it would take him to
learn to follow
> rules, it was a very ironic commentary given that
Judge Davis
> hadn't followed the rules of Judicial Conduct, that
he was refusing
> to enforce state law 22.1-4.3 and that the school
had not followed
> the law or school policy. Of the participants in the
trial, Mr.
> Smith was the only one who had followed the rules
and was sentenced
> to jail for having done so.
>
> The 180 day suspended jail sentence, imposed by
Judge Davis, has
> been appealed by Mr. Smith to the Fairfax County
Circuit Court and
> the first hearing will be September 9th.
>
> Schools discouraging or preventing non-custodial
parents,
> especially fathers, from participating in their
children's school
> events is a common statewide problem. While state
law and school
> written policy supports access irrespective of
visitation, some
> schools such as Fairfax County Public Schools have
an unwritten
> policy to the contrary and instructs staff to not
allow access to
> non-custodial parents. In fact Mr. Smith was not the
only father
> convicted of trespassing in Judge Davis's courtroom
yesterday.
>
> On June 17th, Mr. Smith was arrested and handcuffed
in front of his
> 8 year old son Liam who has Down Syndrome. Mr. Smith
was held on a
> trespassing charge for the entire Fathers Day
weekend in solitary
> confinement at the Fairfax County Jail (ADC-Adult
Detention Center)
> before being released on a $1,000 bond.
>
> Mr. Smith lives in Dublin VA and drove over 4 hours
(one way) in
> order to attend his son's class party. There was no
court order
> that prohibited him from attending the school event,
his wife sent
> him an invitation to the party (per court order) and
did not attend
> herself. Both state law VA CODE 22.1-4.3 and school
Regulation
> 2240.3 require the school to allow non-custodial
parents to attend
> their children's school events. Mr. Smiths son was
happy to see him
> and even stated several times that he loved his
father and was glad
> he came to the party. Mr. Smith was not disruptive
and was well
> received by teachers, parents, and students, yet
school principal
> Roger Vanderhye had Mr. Smith charged with
trespassing and arrested
> in front of his son and other first grade students
and their parents.
>
> While spending fathers-day weekend in jail was
unpleasant, Mr.
> Smith is working to make something good out of it.
Mr. Smith wants
> to use the experience to encourage Virginia schools
to follow state
> law and written school policy to allow non-custodial
parents access
> to their children at school in order to make it
easier and a more
> pleasant experience for other non-custodial parents
to participate
> in their children's activities at school.
>
> Mr. Smith wants to make sure nobody else has to go
thru the same
> experience of being arrested and that no other
children are left
> thinking their fathers/mothers didn't attend a
school event because
> they don't love them.
>
> Kangaroo court. Term descriptive of a sham legal
proceeding in
> which a person's rights are totally disregarded and
in which the
> result is a foregone conclusion because of the bias
of the court.
> - Black's Law Dictionary
>
> More information about the incident including
photo's, audio clips,
> and court orders is available at:
>
http://www.liamsdad.org/hall_of_shame/fcps/roger_vanderhye.shtml
> http://www.liamsdad.org/court_case/court_case.shtml
>
> For more information or interviews, please contact:
> Wesley Smith
> 5347 Landrum Rd Apt 1
> Dublin VA 24084
> (can't afford a phone, but if you send e-mail I
could call you back)
> liamsdad@...
> http://www.liamsdad.org
>
> Mr. Smith was represented by:
> Dawn Butorac
> Office of the Public Defender
> 4103 Chain Bridge Rd, Suite 500
> Fairfax VA 22030
> 703-934-5600 x121.
>
> Fairfax County General District Court
> 4110 Chain Bridge Road
> Fairfax, Virginia 22030
>
http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/courts/gendist/homepage.htm
> Clerk of Court, Room 232, 703-246-2153
>
> Fairfax County School Board
> 10700 Page Avenue, Fairfax, Virginia 22030
> 703-246-3646 (voice)
> 703-278-8648 (fax)
> schoolboardmembers@...
>
> Cluster Director -- Denny Dearden
> 703-204-3811
> 2334 Gallows Rd., Dunn Loring, VA 22027
> cluster1admin@...
>
> Roger Vanderhye
> e-mail: Roger.Vanderhye@...
> Spring Hill Elementary
> 8201 Lewinsville Rd
> McLean, VA 22102
> 703-506-3400
> 703-506-3497
> http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/SpringHillES/index.htm
>
> VA CODE 22.1-4.3
>
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+22.1-4.3
> Participation by and notification of noncustodial
parent.
> Unless a court order has been issued to the
contrary, the
> noncustodial parent of a student enrolled in a
public school or day
> care center (i) shall not be denied the opportunity
to participate
> in any of the student's school or day care
activities in which such
> participation is supported or encouraged by the
policies of the
> school or day care center solely on the basis of
such noncustodial
> status...
>
> For the purposes of this section, "school or day
care activities"
> shall include, but shall not be limited to, lunch
breaks, special
> in-school programs, parent-teacher conferences and
meetings, and
> extracurricular activities.
>
> Fairfax County School Regulation 2240.3
> http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/Directives/R2240.pdf
> ... A noncustodial parent retains rights to
participate in the
> special education process, to receive information
about the child,
> and to participate in certain school activities
unless a valid
> court order specifically removes or limits those
rights.
>
> ...noncustodial parents have the same rights to
attend events at
> the school (e.g., lunches with children, classroom
visits, school
> productions) as the enrolling parent. No parent,
including the
> enrolling parent, may limit the other parent's
attendance at such
> events, or access to the student at school, unless a
court order
> specifically precludes that parent from attendance
at school or
> access to the student at school. Visitation
schedules contained in
> custody orders do not constitute a specific
limitation on a
> parent's access to schools.
>
> ---------------
> Liam's Dad - Wesley Smith
> http://www.liamsdad.org
> liamsdad@...
>
> Some of those opposed to equal shared parenting
reform argue that
> the Mother should be the primary caregiver because
she is...
> well... the Mother. Such an argument is devoid of
reason and no
> more accurate, or less insulting, than to say that
'Mommy should be
> at home barefoot in the kitchen'.
> ---------------
> Just think back to segregation in the South in the
1950's. It had
> been a way of life for generations. If you were
black, you sat in
> the back of the bus, you used a different bathroom,
you even drank
> out of a different water fountain. Imagine that!
There were laws
> that enforced this; Appellate decisions that upheld
it as good law.
> "That's how it is, just accept it and go on with
your life." Today
> fathers are deprived of their children by the courts
due to the
> same type of senseless discrimination and told by
the judges to
> just accept it and go on with their life. Legalized
discrimination
> hasn't been eliminated, its just targeting different
victims.
>
>
>


Dan Romand
Saratoga County Coordinator/Secretary-FAFNY
Cohost of The Family Forum (www.thefamilyforum.org)
Dan Jr, Amanda, Jonathan, Samantha, Jake & Rebecca's Dad

Do you care about your kids? - Then stop whining about the system and help us
change it!


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Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:09 pm

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this was from another group - and further proof that the claim there isnt a bias against fathers and NCP's is a lie. ... Virginia father to 6 ... class party...
dan the man
romad63 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
4:09 pm

My daughter Alanna invited me to her Mother's Day party at school back in May, along with her soon to be stepmother, the stepmother's mother and my ex's...
Adrienne Bradford
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Aug 11, 2005
4:23 pm

I don't believe in "step" parent titles anyway. It's fine if mommy or daddy has a new fling and he/she wishes to be "friends" with your kid, but that doesn't...
Jeffery Shipman
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Aug 11, 2005
5:01 pm

well speaking as not only a father but a stepfather as well gotta disagree with you a bit, well more than a little bit Like it or not "steps" are a fact of...
dan the man
romad63 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
6:02 pm

Its not that she doesn't plays an important part of their lives - she is the everyday "mother" figure- that still does not make her the MOTHER. I am, and...
Adrienne Bradford
arb1022 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
6:17 pm

playing devil's advocate - both my children and I have BOTH said my wife (a atep mother) is 100x the mother to my kids that my ex could ever dream of being....
dan the man
romad63 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
6:37 pm

Sorry but I disagree with you on this. I was very much my children's mother and they were ripped from me by a spiteful ex husband and a crooked court system....
Adrienne Bradford
arb1022 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
7:03 pm

"Seeing that you don't have a uterus I don't think its fair of you to make that statement." I guess i have been put in my place no uterus=not worthy of comment...
dan the man
romad63 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
7:30 pm

Dan, you're freaking out on us again. It's only differing views and perspectives but we're all on the same side. She feels she's a parent because she has the...
Jeffery Shipman
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Aug 11, 2005
8:16 pm

Dear Jeff, "we need our kids" I disagree, our kids need their parents ,equally! Even if the parent is flawed. I've read arguing in front of children is bad...
Pat S
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Aug 11, 2005
8:32 pm

Yes, "they need us both" is equally what I meant. I also equally meant we "need them equally" (as the other parent)in an equitable fashion as well. We matter...
Jeffery Shipman
zzak_1 Offline Send Email
Aug 15, 2005
3:29 pm

Yiks! Well this woman doesn't have any children (or want any) so I'm going to assume they are not one and the same.....oh forget it. Maybe becoming a monk?????...
Pat S
psdiver41 Offline Send Email
Aug 15, 2005
4:50 pm

Kinda wish I had. But then again, I wouldn't have my precious Deonna. ... I'm going to assume they are not one and the same.....oh forget it. Maybe becoming a...
Jeffery Shipman
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Aug 15, 2005
5:06 pm

Holy Moly, I go off on a couple of earth shattering dates and turn on the computer & Dan's started a miniwar. lol I too have a uterus, that nearly failed me,...
Tammy Bowman
tamdpm Offline Send Email
Aug 15, 2005
6:58 pm

Ok I've been gone for a while but have been trying to keep up with reading my posts. I just had to put my 2 cents in on this issue. I am a stepmom as well and...
Linda Henderson
lhenderson719 Offline Send Email
Aug 15, 2005
7:34 pm

Actually, It takes 2 to make a child, although often 3 or 4 want to raise the child. This is all good as long as noone, especially, and primarily the child...
Tammy Bowman
tamdpm Offline Send Email
Aug 15, 2005
8:34 pm

I certainly don't see things your way, but that's a natural occurrence in human beings...we're all different and have differing views or, as I see it, varying...
Jeffery Shipman
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Aug 11, 2005
7:50 pm

This is what I was trying to say, but I was being told that I had to EARN my role as a parent. I did not mean for Dan to think I thought less of him as a...
Adrienne Bradford
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Aug 11, 2005
10:14 pm

Regarding getting pregnant, birth, labor, breast feeding, etc. yes it does matter...especially in my case where I was infertile for years. It was a battle to...
Tammy Bowman
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Aug 12, 2005
12:52 pm

Yes you would call my ex "baby factory" 4 kids 4 different dudes (sperm doners as you say) She is not with any of them(boyfriends, husbands) anymore! But the...
steven derycke
derykman Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
9:40 pm

I have absolutely moved beyond the matters of the last couple weeks. In that you are in the fight of your life, I just want to see your matter successfully...
judson witham
jurisnot Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
6:06 pm

We at krightsradio just spoke to the public defender in this case and she was rude and abrasive. she hung up on us while we were tryint to get basic...
Richard Farr
marzkizer Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
4:56 pm

I'm just about crying right now as I read this. How completely insane is this country and the asinine, ignorant LITTLE people who have the control!!!?? A man...
Jeffery Shipman
zzak_1 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
4:56 pm

WTG KRIGHTS..... ... -- http://www.dezign-net.com...
C. Strange
danieljdriftway Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
6:05 pm

... I hear you and feel the same way. Somewhat. My fiance is more to my kids that someone who befriended their dad but they call her by her first name, not...
cnelson@...
lee_1186 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
5:16 pm

My ex actually had a clause written into our custody agreement that any future spouse or SO's would NEVER be addressed by the children as "mommy" or "daddy" HE...
Adrienne Bradford
arb1022 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
5:48 pm

Giving birth makes one a parent only in the biological sense much as providing sperm to fertilize an egg does. But I really don't think that's the meaning of...
cnelson@...
lee_1186 Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
7:40 pm

... _Parents_ are often temporary. I know someone whose birth mother walked out on the family one mother's day! Go figure. His father's second wife -- his...
cnelson@...
lee_1186 Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2005
12:55 pm

I'm not saying that all women are good mothers, some women get pregnant by "accident" or out of wedlock too. Perhaps they view the experience of having a ...
Tammy Bowman
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Aug 12, 2005
1:06 pm
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