And thats why i have enjoyed this group for the last year ,, Brothers helping brothers,, virgil ________________________________ From: "laxt57@..."...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 19, 2012 3:42 am
I don't know this particular PID controller, but if it is going to use a PID algorithm (proportional-integral-differential control), then it needs to adjust...
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GGB
girlguidebis...
Nov 20, 2012 7:11 am
I built one of these and its gives excellent manual control from 0W up to about 3kW. I haven't done my first distillation yet but I expect it would be just the...
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laxt57@...
laxt57
Nov 22, 2012 4:54 am
Hi Bob Did you read the technical publication for this controller? SYL-2372 I did Jeri ... From: Bob Glicksman <bobg542492@...> To: new_distillers...
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Byron
odiekokee
Nov 22, 2012 4:54 am
Is there any harm in leaving the mash to sit for a period of time (anywhere from a day to a month) beyond the end of yeast activity? Want to be sure I won't...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 22, 2012 5:21 am
Hi Jeri, As I said, no I do not have the technical manual. I was just pointing out that proportional control of the heating element is not possible with an...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 22, 2012 5:28 am
While most bacteria will be killed by 10% or so alcohol, the bacteria that turn your "wine" into vinegar will not be so affected. I suggest sterilizing the...
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Gavin Flett
grainbrewer
Nov 22, 2012 7:03 am
Guys, I don't know the first thing about PID's. The terms used are mostly foreign to me, hence my trouble so far. If this is the wrong setup, then someone...
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JoeK
joeklaus313
Nov 22, 2012 4:11 pm
I have some really good whisky that I aged with oak and raisens and I think thats about it. Anyway there is this very fine plasma looking stuff at the bottem...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 22, 2012 6:17 pm
Gavin, I searched out the manual and you should wire it as Jeri suggests. If you use an external contactor to control power to your heater, the PID controller...
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Gavin Flett
grainbrewer
Nov 22, 2012 6:36 pm
Ok, so it sounds like a similar method of operation to my Johnston A-419 temperature controller which basically turned it on full blast for a bit, then turned...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 22, 2012 7:06 pm
The PID setup is intended to smooth this out somewhat. The data sheet specifies 1 deg F, but I don't know under what conditions they test this under. You...
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Gavin Flett
grainbrewer
Nov 22, 2012 10:40 pm
Cool, great info. I am actually using it for a barley mash process. So if I understand correctly, an SSR performs the same functions as a PID, but better? If...
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GGB
girlguidebis...
Nov 22, 2012 11:48 pm
... No, they're completely different things. The PID is a logic "brain" that attempts according to the parameters you program in to shoot for a particular...
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Gavin Flett
grainbrewer
Nov 23, 2012 12:20 am
Now that's what I have been searching for. a lamens description of what a PID and an SSR does. Thanks How do the beer brewers do this then, what kind of W...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 23, 2012 5:16 am
No. You would use an SSR in lieu of a contactor. An SSR can switch the AC power on and off very fast. A zero crossing SSR can cycle AC power every 1/2 cycle...
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Bob Glicksman
robertglicksman
Nov 23, 2012 5:25 am
I'm not an expert at beer brewing, but I doubt that the temperature has to be held absolutely steady e.g. to less than +/-0.1 deg C of the desired temperature....
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Gavin Flett
grainbrewer
Nov 23, 2012 4:58 pm
Once again,great info, thanks so much for the explanation To: new_distillers@yahoogroups.com From: bobg542492@... Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:25:52 -0500 ...
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rhinodust
Nov 24, 2012 4:48 pm
Was wondering if the activated carbon I use in my fish tank filter will work. It's cheap and very available from any pet store. I usually run water through it...
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M L
kekedog13
Nov 24, 2012 6:26 pm
NO, Go to the Home Distillation of Alcohol site, they say that aquarium carbon may contain crap that can leach into you're spirit.Good activated carbon is...
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Kevin
kpregira
Nov 25, 2012 12:13 am
Yes! It's the same thing. It's what I use and it works just fine. Just rinse the dust off before using it....
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Alex Netherton
danetherton2000
Nov 25, 2012 12:25 am
I must say that I don't distill, but many in my family did. You don't ever want to let your mash sit after "working off"; the acetic acid bacteria will get in...
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GGB
girlguidebis...
Nov 25, 2012 2:29 am
Alex Netherton wrote: "Acetic acid bacteria ... /anaerobic/..." Did you mean to say that Acetobacter is an aerobic bacteria? Because it is. Vinegar is produced...
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jsducote
Nov 26, 2012 3:49 pm
According to my google, coffee filters are only good down to about 20 micron. Cartridge water filters abound in the 1-5 micron range and I saw one rated for...
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bob@...
bobcrowder2001
Nov 26, 2012 9:07 pm
... bacteria cannot get a hold. But in practise it is a good idea to rack off wine or beer because the dying yeast will impart flavours of its own. Paul I have...
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laxt57@...
laxt57
Nov 26, 2012 9:09 pm
Hi Well, er, ah,mumble*%#** I hate to butt in. But you could use a solid state contactor Switch on and off lots without issue Jeri ... From: Bob Glicksman...
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Fredrick Lee
AreoSpike
Nov 26, 2012 11:10 pm
Gavin, I own a 12HL (a little less than 300 gallons) brewery and we use a 6000W RIMS tube for our mash tun temp changes. Two things we have solved that have...
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bob@...
bobcrowder2001
Nov 28, 2012 4:00 am
Fredrick Lee [fredrick@...] >1.) We realized not only did we need to know the temp of the grain bed (mash temp), we also needed to know the temp of...
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shark_killah
Nov 28, 2012 4:02 am
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nt34af9eua6lmwe/drawing2.jpg <https://www.dropbox.com/s/nt34af9eua6lmwe/drawing2.jpg> please see the drawing of my rough plan for my...
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Fredrick Lee
AreoSpike
Nov 28, 2012 4:31 am
Our 6kw heater sits inside a small vertical RIMS tube from brewershardware.com...