I will be using this site to distribute information concerning restoration at
the NCNGRR museum in Nevada City, California. Other sites such as the SPCRR,
WSLC and the NCNGRR sites in yahoo groups have graciously allowed me to
contribute information to their discussion groups which I have appreciated and
will continue to add as needed. I will try to answer any questions in a timely
manner.   Thanks for looking in. John Christensen, Restoration Manager, NCNGRR
Museum.

Glad to see you got this up and going.
You guys are doing a heck of a job there.
Herman is sending the forms to me to join your group and maybe join in on the
fun.
Would you mind if I announced this site on our SPNG sites seeing that you are
doing so much for our railroad of interest?
Keep up the good work and see ya soon.
Dennis Burke, Lakeport Ca,

Think your going to have to take off the Nevada County and just call your place
California Narrow Gauge Museum.
I was wondering when tank 2 was going to be given another life. My favorite WS
car.
Back in 1988 I attended the Westside reunion in Tuolumne and we spent and
afternoon at Glen Tyras.
Caboose #4 and tank #2 where there along with tank #4, skeleton cars, I believe
HD flat #1 and many others.
I took several detail shots of all these cars for modeling purposes.
Will locate and get them to you.
Where is tank #4? Last I saw it it was set up as a track weed sprayer at Tyras.

Got some wood work on your hands there.
Dennis

Hey Dennis - Tank car #4 is also at Bev Cola's but I don't have room for any
more cars. I bought five of them - flats 276 & 300 which were totally dry rotted
and collapsed, tank 2, caboose 4 and the 8 ton switcher. We dismantled the two
flats and my plan is to rebuild 300 into a logging flat with bunks and chains. I
picked up these parts from the 38 foot skel cars that are dismantled.
The HD flat is collapsing due to all the weight on it. It will be unloaded in
the near future and we will move it on a newly built spur track along with tank
4. I'm looking for someone who will restore the tank car rather than scrap it
for parts. The wslc flats are easy rebuilds and most of the wslc cars were built
on these frames. The HD flat will have to be dismantled for parts and stored if
possible since it is to far gone. I am trying to help Bev Cola dispose of the
remaining equipment for a fair price as well as preserve as much as I can. Open
to any suggestions. John

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com,
"pineconelumberng@..." <pineconelumberng@...> wrote:
>
> Think your going to have to take off the Nevada County and just call your
place California Narrow Gauge Museum.
> I was wondering when tank 2 was going to be given another life. My favorite WS
car.
> Back in 1988 I attended the Westside reunion in Tuolumne and we spent and
afternoon at Glen Tyras.
> Caboose #4 and tank #2 where there along with tank #4, skeleton cars, I
believe HD flat #1 and many others.
> I took several detail shots of all these cars for modeling purposes.
> Will locate and get them to you.
> Where is tank #4? Last I saw it it was set up as a track weed sprayer at
Tyras.
>
> Got some wood work on your hands there.
> Dennis
>

Dennis - Unfortunately the brake wheels and staffs have been liberated from the
flats by the time I got there. Only caboose 4 still has a wheel on it. I will
contact Randy once I hear from Dave Mull and find out if he needs anything.
Randy has plenty of parts but may be interested in the tank car. He also may
have a brake wheel. I'm not sure if their new catalog is out yet or if they have
a pattern for that.
Thanks on the SP flat. The new stake pockets are being casted beginning this
week. Tell Dave that our pattern maker is working on the truss rod bearing
pattern for the SP 130 and then he will begin the SP journal box pattern. John

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Burke
<pineconelumberng@...> wrote:
>
> Got your hands full. Love to restore tank but I may have an SPNG Box up here
soon. Did you already try Randy Hees? Heard you sent info down to Owens Valley.
Spoke with Mull, he is asking around.
> I do need a brake wheel for our SPNG Perlite Box Car #73, a Westside wheel
would work if you had one.. They would be a pain to cast.
> SP flat coming along nicely. Great job.
> Dennis
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/1/11, John <tahoe5_5@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: John <tahoe5_5@...>
> Subject: [nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany] Re: Narrow Gauge
> To: nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 3:19 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hey Dennis - Tank car #4 is also at Bev Cola's but I don't have room for any
more cars. I bought five of them - flats 276 & 300 which were totally dry rotted
and collapsed, tank 2, caboose 4 and the 8 ton switcher. We dismantled the two
flats and my plan is to rebuild 300 into a logging flat with bunks and chains. I
picked up these parts from the 38 foot skel cars that are dismantled.
> The HD flat is collapsing due to all the weight on it. It will be unloaded in
the near future and we will move it on a newly built spur track along with tank
4. I'm looking for someone who will restore the tank car rather than scrap it
for parts. The wslc flats are easy rebuilds and most of the wslc cars were built
on these frames. The HD flat will have to be dismantled for parts and stored if
possible since it is to far gone. I am trying to help Bev Cola dispose of the
remaining equipment for a fair price as well as preserve as much as I can. Open
to any suggestions. John
>
> --- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com,
"pineconelumberng@" <pineconelumberng@> wrote:
> >
> > Think your going to have to take off the Nevada County and just call your
place California Narrow Gauge Museum.
> > I was wondering when tank 2 was going to be given another life. My favorite
WS car.
> > Back in 1988 I attended the Westside reunion in Tuolumne and we spent and
afternoon at Glen Tyras.
> > Caboose #4 and tank #2 where there along with tank #4, skeleton cars, I
believe HD flat #1 and many others.
> > I took several detail shots of all these cars for modeling purposes.
> > Will locate and get them to you.
> > Where is tank #4? Last I saw it it was set up as a track weed sprayer at
Tyras.
> >
> > Got some wood work on your hands there.
> > Dennis
> >
>

Hi Dennis.

i wonder if it would be possible to get any copies of those photos you took at
Glen Tyra's .Maybe i could trade you some Wslc photos .
Thanks. Ede
edsshay@...

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Burke
<pineconelumberng@...> wrote:
>
> Got your hands full. Love to restore tank but I may have an SPNG Box up here
soon. Did you already try Randy Hees? Heard you sent info down to Owens Valley.
Spoke with Mull, he is asking around.
> I do need a brake wheel for our SPNG Perlite Box Car #73, a Westside wheel
would work if you had one.. They would be a pain to cast.
> SP flat coming along nicely. Great job.
> Dennis
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/1/11, John <tahoe5_5@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: John <tahoe5_5@...>
> Subject: [nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany] Re: Narrow Gauge
> To: nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 3:19 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hey Dennis - Tank car #4 is also at Bev Cola's but I don't have room for any
more cars. I bought five of them - flats 276 & 300 which were totally dry rotted
and collapsed, tank 2, caboose 4 and the 8 ton switcher. We dismantled the two
flats and my plan is to rebuild 300 into a logging flat with bunks and chains. I
picked up these parts from the 38 foot skel cars that are dismantled.
> The HD flat is collapsing due to all the weight on it. It will be unloaded in
the near future and we will move it on a newly built spur track along with tank
4. I'm looking for someone who will restore the tank car rather than scrap it
for parts. The wslc flats are easy rebuilds and most of the wslc cars were built
on these frames. The HD flat will have to be dismantled for parts and stored if
possible since it is to far gone. I am trying to help Bev Cola dispose of the
remaining equipment for a fair price as well as preserve as much as I can. Open
to any suggestions. John
>
> --- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com,
"pineconelumberng@" <pineconelumberng@> wrote:
> >
> > Think your going to have to take off the Nevada County and just call your
place California Narrow Gauge Museum.
> > I was wondering when tank 2 was going to be given another life. My favorite
WS car.
> > Back in 1988 I attended the Westside reunion in Tuolumne and we spent and
afternoon at Glen Tyras.
> > Caboose #4 and tank #2 where there along with tank #4, skeleton cars, I
believe HD flat #1 and many others.
> > I took several detail shots of all these cars for modeling purposes.
> > Will locate and get them to you.
> > Where is tank #4? Last I saw it it was set up as a track weed sprayer at
Tyras.
> >
> > Got some wood work on your hands there.
> > Dennis
> >
>

Hello, i am new to the group and love to build models of the west side lumber
co. including wslco boxcar #1. I was wondering if during restoration of one the
west side train cars if i could have a piece of the origial wood from the car,
rotten or not. Tyler Virga

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<tahoe5_5@...> wrote:
>
> I will be using this site to distribute information concerning restoration at
the NCNGRR museum in Nevada City, California. Other sites such as the SPCRR,
WSLC and the NCNGRR sites in yahoo groups have graciously allowed me to
contribute information to their discussion groups which I have appreciated and
will continue to add as needed. I will try to answer any questions in a timely
manner.   Thanks for looking in. John Christensen, Restoration Manager, NCNGRR
Museum.
>

great thanks! i will contribute it into one of my models.  I can most likly pick
it up, let me know when when you start restoration.  Tyler Virga

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, JOHN CHRISTENSEN
<tahoe5_5@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Tyler - We will be working on both caboose #1 & #4 next year. I can save
a piece of siding from caboose #1 in the near future since it will be first to
be worked on. We will have to work out how you want this sent or picked up. Take
care, John
>
>
>
>
> To: nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com
> From: tylervirga@...
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:11:13 +0000
> Subject: [nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany] Re: New Restoration
Information Site for the Nevada County Narrow Gauge R.R. Museum
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, i am new to the group and love to build models of the west side lumber
co. including wslco boxcar #1. I was wondering if during restoration of one the
west side train cars if i could have a piece of the origial wood from the car,
rotten or not. Tyler Virga
>
> --- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<tahoe5_5@> wrote:
> >
> > I will be using this site to distribute information concerning restoration
at the NCNGRR museum in Nevada City, California. Other sites such as the SPCRR,
WSLC and the NCNGRR sites in yahoo groups have graciously allowed me to
contribute information to their discussion groups which I have appreciated and
will continue to add as needed. I will try to answer any questions in a timely
manner. Thanks for looking in. John Christensen, Restoration Manager, NCNGRR
Museum.
> >
>

Hi Group - Just letting everyone know that the WSLC caboose #4 was successfully
moved from Placerville to the NCNG museum in Nevada City on Jan. 7th. I posted
current photo's of the move. Thanks, John

John:

Glad to hear that it finally got there!  You've now got your hands full; both
caboose #4 and caboose #1 !  Not to mention all sorts of other restorations
going on.

With best regards, Hart
________________________________________________________

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<tahoe5_5@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Group - Just letting everyone know that the WSLC caboose #4 was
successfully moved from Placerville to the NCNG museum in Nevada City on Jan.
7th. I posted current photo's of the move. Thanks, John
>

Thanks John. That was a little disturbing. Not the type of caboose I want to
talk about on this site.
Dennis

Thanks Hart. We will be starting the new underbody framing for caboose #1 next
month. The long sills are shot on both ends. We are beginning with the cleaning
and servicing of the trucks. The new body bolsters are already cut and will be
mounted on the trucks when they are ready. Four new long sills will be applied
onto the bolsters and new end sills applies along with the original underbody
hardware. We don't plan to transfer the caboose body to the new frame until late
this year when we put the tank back on the rebuilt NCNG tank car.
The caboose will be restored back to around 1940 when the Swayne coupola was
still on it.  John

--- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, "hwcwsl"
<hwcorbett@...> wrote:
>
> John:
>
> Glad to hear that it finally got there!  You've now got your hands full; both
caboose #4 and caboose #1 !  Not to mention all sorts of other restorations
going on.
>
> With best regards, Hart
> ________________________________________________________
>
> --- In nevadacountynarrowgaugerailroadcompany@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<tahoe5_5@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Group - Just letting everyone know that the WSLC caboose #4 was
successfully moved from Placerville to the NCNG museum in Nevada City on Jan.
7th. I posted current photo's of the move. Thanks, John
> >
>

For the first time the Southern Pacific Narrow Gauge Historical Society will be
leaving the high deserts of California and Nevada behind  to conduct there 4 day
annual conference on the other side of the Sierras.
"S.P. Narrow Gauge-West of the Sierras" will be based out of Ardenwood Historic
Park in Fremont, Ca.
Clinics and hands on activities will include the following railroads and
related:
South Pacific Coast
Santa Cruz and Felton
Monterey and Salinas
Santa Cruz Lumber
San Joaquin and Sierra Nevada
Oregonian Railway
North Pacific Coast
Carter Brothers Car Builders
Modeling the SPNG and more.

Other activities include hands on equipment at Ardenwood, restoration fund
raiser BBQ, round table share your relics and photos, and membership meeting.

Also included are 2 specially priced trains rides:
Roaring Camp and Big Trees NGRR steam with shop tour.

Niles Canyon Railway with our own scheduled train as well as a shop and yard
tour. Yosemite Valley Observation car 330 will be part of the consist. Currently
the locomotive that is scheduled is to be diesel but this may change.

We will also visit Jim Vail's Glenwood and Black Creek Hon3 Model Railroad.

Speakers to date:
Brian Norden
Charlie Siebenthal
Randy Hees
Dennis Burke
Herman Darr
Kyall Wyatt
Paul Diegas
more,

We have reserved several rooms at the Courtyard Marriott in Newark. Must make
reservations by May 21st to receive the discount.

Check out our website at spnghs.org  for more details and registration form or
e-mail spngoffice@... or phone 707-262-1824


Thank you

A grant funding request to the NRHS has been submitted to the District 7 board
and unamanously approved and sent forward for review and approval of funds. The
funding request is specific too the complete rebuilding of the roof and the A
end of the car to include new draft gear sills.
So far the car has been placed on a set of Thielson trucks,climax couplers, new
needle beams, queen posts, truss rods, body hung brakes, hand brakes and air
brakes applied. One entire side of car has had most of the uprights and diagonal
supports replaced with new siding. If the grant funding is successfull the car
is scheduled to back into the shop around December as our Winter restoration
job.

I'm posting current photo's of the rebuild of wslc caboose #4 rebuild. Also
beginning to post photo's of the new frame up of Swayne caboose #1

We wish all our fellow modelers the very best in the coming New Year.May your
health and the economy enble you to do great things in your modeling!
All our best here in the land of Narrow Gauge, from Montrose, CO!
Rick & Debbie Bell

I would like to announce the first ever 4 day "SIERRA NARROW GAUGE CONFERENCE"
to be hosted by the Nevada County Narrow Gauge RR Museum and co-hosted by the
Southern Pacific Narrow Gauge Historical Society.
The conference will include presentations relating to various Narrow Gauge lines
that once roamed the foothills and high mountain ranges of the Sierra
Nevada's.
Through day and evening presentations conducted by railroad historians as well
as hands on narrow gauge equipment we will explore a selection of narrow gauge
lines, their history, equipment, locations, and the people that kept it all on
track.
Other activities include a restoration fund raising BBQ, raffle, and an
authentic "ALL" Westside Lumber Company train led by fully restored Westside
Plymouth #1 with some yard switching included.

WHEN: Tuesday June 18th – Friday the 21st. (weekends are very busy in Nevada
County and hotels are much cheaper during the week)
LOCATION: Nevada County Narrow Gauge Railroad Museum located at 5 Kidder Ct.
Nevada City, Ca.

We have blocked rooms at local Hotels at a group discount rate. Please book your
rooms directly with the Hotel itself. See the registration form for information
on hotels.

I HAVE ATTACHED IN THE FILES SECTION OF THIS YAHOO SITE A COPY OF THE
REGISTRATION FORM WITH FURTHER INFORMATION UNDER SIERRA NG CONFERENCE.

Please check out the Museum at ncngrrmuseum.org The museum has a large
selection of NG equipment in various stages of restoration.

All proceeds from the Sierra NG Conference will go towards the restoration of NG
equipment at the Museum.

For further information check out www.ncngrrmuseum.org or e-mail John
Christensen, Andrew Brandon, or Dennis Burke at sierrang@...

Thank you,
Dennis Burke,
President, SPNGHS Inc.

CONFIRMED PRESENTATIONS TO DATE:
John Christensen- Introduction to the NCNGRR Museum
John Christensen- Restoration of NG rolling stock
Andrew Brandon- NCNGRR, the 1st year
Andrew Brandon- NG equipment color schemes
Herman Darr- NCNGRR History Part 1
Herman Darr- NCNGRR History Part 2
Jerry Blackwell- Bliss & His Lake Tahoe RR
Nelson Van Gundy- Sierra Nevada Wood & Lumber Company
Nelson Van Gundy- Hobart Estate Company Logging RR
Art Kauppi- Westside Lumber History
Dave Connery- Westside Lumber Trestles/ modeling the Westside trestles
Ed Siecker- Westside Lumber/ Pickering maps
Stan Kistler- Westside Lumber, a collection of photos
Mark Francis- Empire City Railway
Paul Beckstrom- Swayne Lumber Company
Paul Beckstrom- Mich. Cal Lumber
Roger Staab- Towle Brothers
Kyle Wyatt- San Joaquin & Sierra Nevada
Chris Dewitt- The Glenbrook, History & Restoration
Jim Vail- Hon3 modeling
Randy Hees- Carter flats
Dan Markoff- Discussion-Eureka & Palisade #4 / Hobart Estate #5, and more
Dennis Burke- Diamond & Caldor RR