Good afternoon, I'd be most grateful if someone here could tell me whether editions of Armstrong's Loeb edition of the First Ennead subsequent to the first...
Can someone help me? Whose view was this, one of our ancient authors? "Certain of the ancient Greeks had the view that soul was not in body, but body was in...
Well, it was Plotinus who thought that body was in soul, but I'm not persuaded that he talked about interacting fields as if they were material extensions! See...
On Thursday, November 03, 2005, at 08:47AM, Melanie B. Mineo ... Plotinus held this view. I believe that he was the first to espouse it. Sincerely, Toke...
Hi, Melanie, Don't know about ancient but it sure sounds like Rupert Sheldrake! If this is in fact an interpretation of Plotinus, it seems to imply an...
This is discussed in one or more of the following books: Pierre Hadot "Plotinus, or the Simplicity of Vision" Dominic J. O'Meara "Plotinus - An Introduction to...
Hi Melanie, Curt, et. al., The texts referenced below are indeed very good. I would, however, suggest also looking into the Epicurean doctrine of the soul....
... M.C. Yes. Here he was, of course, only following Plato in Timaeus 34b ... M.C. In fact, neither Plotinus nor any other Neoplatonist can say in the strict...
Dear Curt, Stephen, Toke, Mike, Marilynn, & Edward - Thank you! So, it is indeed Plotinus, but an interpretation of Plotinus. Should we understand, then, that...
... M.C. I personally don't set much stock in distinguishing between Plato's "mature" and other views : we know virtually nothing about Plato's intellectual...
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Hello, Using different references in order to help understanding: The body (and by that I mean the psyche too, or, in Buddhist terms, all the skandhas) is "in"...
... M.C. Um, if you say so. ... M.C. Many thanks for your efforts, but I have to confess I'm now considerably more confused than I was before. Best wishes, ......
The specific reference I was thinking of turns out to be O'Meara's book. The second chapter on "The Relation Between Sensible and Intelligible Reality" is...
... Perhaps, though, it is that simple! To this I would answer, think of yourself as a younger man, and the views you held at that time. Are they the same as...
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The question, Michael, is what the soul is. To vulgar dualism nowadays (Hollywood's, for instance) it's a "fluid" that can be exchanged, stored, etc. To...
... Well, it should also be borne in mind that even "Orphics", whatever one takes this disputed term to mean, are not committed to the position that the body...
... M.C. This is an interesting distinction, but I'm not sure whether it works in detail. Are there actually any Orphic texts that state this distinction? It...
Hello everyone, I have recently joined this list, which I was delighted to discover. My name is Bob Wallace; I'm a specialist in Hegel (my book, _Hegel's ...
It seems that the whole issue turns on the nature of Orphism, which I gather is not exactly transparent. What do you think of Thomas McEvilley's claim that it...
... M.C. Responding very quickly before dashing off to work, I'd say "probably not all that much". Plotinus and Porphyry, at any rate, violently disagree with...
Maybe you would enjoy reading: "Hegel und die Grenzen der Dialektik." Hegel Jahrbuch (2001): 53-61. which explores the close relationship between the first...
Dear Mike, Thanks for your response! ... Yes, in Enneads IV.8.6 and II.9.17 Plotinus cites the key Timaeus principle (29e) that the divine cannot be "jealous,"...
Thus, for those of us who are not Guardians, an 'intelligent hedonism' would seem to be the order of the day.... (Phaedo 82ab, Republic 500d, etc; Dodds,...
Dear Bob, Thanks for bringing in Hegel. ... Hegel's objection to the "flight from the body" theology, that fleeing from something doesn't liberate us from it. ...
On the other hand, we're also told that "nobody is satisfied to acquire things that are merely believed to be good . . . but everyone wants the things that...
Well, good luck! Zen Buddhism (if I may be permitted to cross disciplines - an heretical step - for the sake of pedagogy) suggests that one becomes free not by...
If I may join in "crossing the boundaries": the late 60-s were largely influenced by Zen and related hedonism of the hippies. It was far from being perversion...
