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5225 Gábor Buzási
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Jan 4, 2012
12:41 pm
*Summer Course “Polemos/Pulmus: Ways of Confrontation in Judaism, Paganism and Christianity in Late Antiquity” **at Central European University (CEU) in...
5226 M Martijn
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Jan 4, 2012
8:28 pm
(the invitation, contact details and further information can also be found by following this link: ...
5227 Mark
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Jan 4, 2012
9:38 pm
It would be nice to have a new translation of the Protrepticus - I was reading Lloyd Gerson's book Aristotle and other platonists - ...
5228 Mark
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Jan 4, 2012
9:42 pm
Hey Imram, I don,t know if this helps, but if you want to check out the full work, there's the seven volume Armstrong translation from the Loeb Classical...
5229 Imran
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Jan 5, 2012
2:44 pm
Thanks a lot, it looks very promising. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
5230 vaeringjar Offline Send Email Jan 5, 2012
7:39 pm
Actually look at the work done by Hustchinson and Johnson on the Protrepticus, which they have been kind enough to post online, and they are also to publish at...
5231 Mark
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Jan 6, 2012
5:21 pm
I actually meant Iamblichus' Protrepticus, but thanks for the link, interesting stuff....
5232 vaeringjar Offline Send Email Jan 7, 2012
9:19 pm
Ah, ok - I think Thomas Johnson's version is still the only one in English, from Phanes Press. Dennis Clark...
5233 Baracat Jr.
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Jan 9, 2012
6:02 pm
Dear List, Allow me to share with you a very intriguing paper I have just read: "THE CORPUS AREOPAGITICUM AS A CRYPTO-PAGAN PROJECT", by Tuomo Lankila. Here is...
5234 Khem Caigan
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Jan 9, 2012
6:24 pm
... Available at the link below as a (.PDF) : http://tinyurl.com/7v6p6wp Cors in Manu Domine, ~ Khem Caigan <Khem@...>...
5235 Baracat Jr.
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Jan 9, 2012
6:32 pm
Thanks for the link, Khem Caigan! I had fogotten to add it to the inicial post......
5236 Dan Hartjes
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Jan 10, 2012
9:49 pm
   Khem Caigan  What did you find interesting about the paper?           Dan Hartjes Recent Activity: New Members 2 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE ...
5237 Thomas Mether
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Jan 10, 2012
9:52 pm
I believe it was Jose. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
5238 baracatjr Offline Send Email Jan 10, 2012
10:13 pm
Thanks, Thomas, it was me. What I found interesting about the paper (besides being a fine piece of scholarship: learned and pleasant to read) is the hypothesis...
5239 John Dillon
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Jan 10, 2012
10:59 pm
... I have to say I find this hypothesis much less probable than that of a highly-sophisticated Christian student of Proclus, though I don¹t suppose it can be...
5240 baracatjr Offline Send Email Jan 10, 2012
11:20 pm
To be honest, Professor Dillon, I too think that a Christian origin for the Corpus is much more probable (though my opinion is absolutely unimportant). That is...
5241 John Dillon
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Jan 11, 2012
9:25 am
... - ... Right, José. It is just that the mind-set of a convinced philosophic Hellene who could so immerse himself in the details of the Christian faith is ...
5242 Jim Schumacher
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Jan 11, 2012
5:44 pm
I understand that the supposed pagan forgery is just too perfect to be believable, but what bothers me is Christian access to PT. If the Dionysian Corpus is...
5243 Thomas Mether
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Jan 11, 2012
6:00 pm
As a follow up to your question and John's point that a convinced Hellene wouldn't probably be all that interested, ("It is just that the mind-set of a...
5244 John Dillon
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Jan 11, 2012
6:00 pm
... Well now, we don't precisely know what he had access to - though there is a pretty clear link to the De Malorum Subsistentia, Maybe just notes of Proclus'...
5245 John Dillon
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Jan 11, 2012
6:16 pm
... Well, that's true enough, but Porphyry was amassing data in order to do a hatchet job on the Christians, which he duly does - and the same goes for Celsus,...
5246 baracatjr Offline Send Email Jan 11, 2012
6:20 pm
That's exactly what came to my mind, Thomas: Hellenes had exibited detailed and sophiticated knowledge of the Bible, and Porphyry is the best example. In...
5247 baracatjr Offline Send Email Jan 11, 2012
6:41 pm
Couldn’t it be the case that, after the closing of the Athenian School – which meant for Neoplatonists not only the prohibition of Platonic studies, but...
5248 John Dillon
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Jan 11, 2012
9:18 pm
... Well, hard to refute that suggestion, but I still think the enthusiastic Christian Neoplatonist scenario is the more probable! John [Non-text portions of...
5249 Thomas Mether
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Jan 11, 2012
9:49 pm
John, I'm only looking at the degree which pagans had interest and/or knowledge of nonpagan sources. I don't know about a pagan impersonating a Christian ...
5250 Goya
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Jan 12, 2012
12:15 am
Seems unlikely to me. The whole hypothesis seems to me wildly improbable and contrived. Let's compare the Islamic situation once again: Here, Plotinian and...
5251 Goya
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Jan 12, 2012
12:19 am
The earlier attestations of the Corpus Dionysiacum date from the early sixth century. That allows nearly a century for the hypothetical Christian to do his...
5252 baracatjr Offline Send Email Jan 12, 2012
5:29 am
Michael, Let me make clear that I am not defending neither alternatives. And I don’t think that a Christian origin is unacceptable, as I don’t think that a...
5253 Marco Bormann
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Jan 12, 2012
1:29 pm
This is quite an interesting discussion, but from my humble point of view it is not so much showing anything positive but rather how much there is we do not...
5254 John Dillon
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Jan 12, 2012
2:02 pm
... of ... in ... be ... fine ... Maria ... at ... thesis ... Athenian ... with ... version ... Terms ... is ... That’s a rather nice analogy, Marco! A lot...
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