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[nazarene_fraud_victims] Re: A Statement from SANJ

Shalom NFV,

>James Trimm wrote:
>> The emails we send out use phrases such as "donation" and "appreciation
gift".

Cami,
>***The phrases you choose do not matter and will not hold up. Where
>is the *legal documentation* (the forms) for being a charitable
>organisation? That is all that matters. And, they would have to have
>been filed appropriately BEFORE such donations took place to be legal.

Schmuel
100% correct... thank you Cami..

Incidentally, the original solicitations for HRV purchases, when many of you
sent money, did NOT indicate anything about "donation". We would have
no problem republishing an example from a year or two ago. This was all a later
HRV cover story which, since what Cami has pointed out is true, would be
shredded
by a good attorney general, DA, and/or state or fed tax investigator. They
don't
look kindly on such misrepresentations and fraud, and James would do better not
to
continue to lie about the history of the HRV solicitations like he did today.

Now, I do hope those of you who consider the "customer disservice" problems as
more important than the fact that the HRV NT uses another English text
as its base (gross and blatant plagiarism) while claiming to be an original
translation, will really examine your spiritual priorities in regard to the
Scriptures.

Understanding that having money sent under false pretenses, waiting a year,
hearing all sorts of excuses and lines month after month.... hurts ...
nonetheless,
misrepresenting the plagiarism of a mediocre version (wouldn't matter if it were
an
excellent version) as an original translation, peddling the Word of Elohim in
such
a corrupt manor, is, to my heart, 1000 times more significant.

Granted.. I don't have any money on the line. .however, I really am trying to
share straight.

For some of you the $50 or $150 or more is a ton of money, for others it is a
relatively
inexpensive education on spiritual corruption, so I realize that various folks
are looking
at this through differing lenses.

However we are talking about the Word of God.

Could you really USE a version that is basically a tawdry plagiarism, put forth
by
a "scholar" with handmade credentials. Such a version, in my house, would go
somewhere between the New World Translation and the Book of Morman, way in
the back of the closet, if I felt it should stay in the house at all.

Shalom,
Schmuel


Schmuel@...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/




Thu Jan 8, 2004 3:56 pm

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Again I am not a member of this group and will not be getting bogged down in debate here. Anyone that wants to do so may contact me privately. However I do...
James Trimm
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Jan 8, 2004
10:24 am

... and "appreciation gift". ***The phrases you choose do not matter and will not hold up. Where is the *legal documentation* (the forms) for being a...
Cami McCraw
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Jan 8, 2004
2:16 pm

Shalom NFV, ... Cami, ... Schmuel 100% correct... thank you Cami.. Incidentally, the original solicitations for HRV purchases, when many of you sent money, did...
Schmuel
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Jan 8, 2004
4:02 pm

I , personally, am out over $160 bucks for two copies of the HRV Bible (which he now says is not yet published) AND one copy of the HRV commentary (which I...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 11, 2004
11:35 pm

I see the explanation of the hrv not being sent, as it isn't ready, and I don't know why people don't understand that....but what about Kits hrv commentary he...
lifealtar
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Jan 8, 2004
4:47 pm

... <jstrimm@n...> wrote: The emails we send out use phrases such as "donation" and "appreciation gift". The books and tapes section of our website clearly...
egroupmember423 Offline Send Email Jan 9, 2004
3:18 am

The following has been sent to the Nazarene Fraud Victims Yahoo group, as well as to James Trimm for immediate action. He is being called upon to repent of his...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 11, 2004
11:20 pm

I was forwarded a copy of this and will respond to part of it. The rest of it is untruth (for example my wife never said in her email to Kit that she heard me...
James Trimm
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Jan 12, 2004
4:49 am

James, you need to stop telling lies about people just because they want their money back! Don't you get it? We are not satisfied with this alleged society of...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 12, 2004
6:46 am

... paid ... 1. Everyone here knows that is not true. Four months ago we were still posting to our groups and on our webiste that the HRV was a PRE- ...
James Trimm
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Jan 12, 2004
7:56 am

... Correction: http://www.trimmfamily.com/Slander.htm...
James Trimm
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Jan 12, 2004
8:33 am

You were right to name that web site URL "Slander". Almost everything you state in it is slander against one party or another. ... -- Shalom L’Chaim...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 13, 2004
2:10 am

James, send the money back and you won't have to deal with this anymore. I should warn you about your posts and your statements however : everything you say...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 13, 2004
1:46 am

Hi NFV, Kit Ballantine, ... Legal notice noted and witnessed, in email fashion. Posts filed for future reference. ... Shalom, Steven Avery Queens NY ...
Schmuel
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Jan 12, 2004
3:22 pm

They either call me "she" in here or they mis-spell "Ballantyne". Oh well. It reminds all of us that even though we are together in here and communicate with...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 13, 2004
2:59 am

He needs to repent of the adultery, the taking people's money, the not working for a living, the plagiarism, all the lies he told and the list goes on and on. ...
Kit D Ballantyne
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Jan 13, 2004
4:47 am
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