Ken, No one disagrees about married bachelors, or that robbing banks and not robbing banks are both logical possibilities; that's a discussion for the first...
Ken, If I went to a party yesterday, I was able to go to it, and I had to go to it. Don't see the problem with can=must. Unless you're thinking can refers to a...
... This statement distills our disagreement down to a single short statement. "Could" does NOT always go with an if, and, or but. The verb in CHDO is the...
We don't need to be concerned with the long, convoluted, historical discussion philosophers have about the term CHDO. If we remain in that realm, we'll end up...
... wrote <And it is not trivial by saying can = must I think it has the tendency to cut the person who thinks this off from all the things it's possible for...
Hi Stephen, Ken, Steve, Tom, Surely it's more about whether someone suggested that you should say 'god dong' or what ever it was, ie, something caused you to...
Tom: The answer is, in a word, education, and all the complexity, repetition, reiteration, personal research, stating conclusions, etc. that involves. There's...
Hi Ken, That was a very clear overview. It was easy to read and restates the basics of what we're on about. Thanks. I'm really happy with my understanding of...
... Alice _____ From: naturalismphilosophyforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:naturalismphilosophyforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Batts Sent: Monday, 2 March...
... dawg!" ... free ... My answers: 1. No I will not be free to choose 2. No I was not free to choose (unless you catch me off guard) At the risk of...
Hi Deejo, At the risk of compounding confusion, I would say that the illusion of 'free will' ia a genetic adaptation and may be useful to support high personal...
Hi Alice, I’m really happy with my understanding of the world based on what I understand Naturalism to be telling me. In the past I’ve found that I was...
Ken ... This statement distills our disagreement down to a single short statement. "Could" does NOT always go with an if, and, or but. The verb in CHDO is the...
Ken, So I propose we concentrate on the meaning of CHDO that is taught to all little children, the one most all of them grow up to believe: That, when they...
Tom, Those involved in this discussion (primarily Steve, Stephen, Ken, Tom) agree that we don't have libertarian free will – to have done otherwise given the...
Tom, "Since the person?*consists* of?the system of microstates, it doesn't make sense to say that the system of microstates could not?have done otherwise but...
When this discussion started I thought perhaps there was some common ground but alas, we disagree at the most fundamental level. Kids certainly are taught they...
... wrote: <The problem is if you define a person as above [as a system of microstates], then a person could not do otherwise if there was something different...
Tom, To see what, at least looks like a problem, we need to go back to Tim's original post that you then replied to.? Tim: It's true that someone could not...
Ken, I think there is plenty of common ground, see message 4807 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naturalismphilosophyforum/message/4807> in which Stephen agrees...
... wrote: <If you are [saying that a person is the actual system of microstates] and it's true then the following must be false: "... since the person would...
Ken About a particular incident of a child putting a peg in a hole, it's nonsense to tell a child ... Yes that would be nonsense but to say they were able...
... can not am able b.t.w. If that were what people meant, they'd be saying something entirely trivial and thus entirely uninteresting. When someone says 'You...
Tom: Well, maybe. Here's a sentence from Stephen's post: "But I think we need more too, we need to think we are preventing things which really could happen, it...
Ken, I wish he'd said "Really could happen if we weren't effective in preventing it," which, if we were effective,in actuality, the thing really couldn't have...
Ken Medical analogy: If I'm a diabetic, and take my insulin tonight, I (probably) won't die tonight from hyperglycemia; if I don't take it, I'll probably die....
Ken, No hint of any actual ability to have done things otherwise, or any ability to prevent something from happening which really could happen. You can't...
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