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It would be helpful to those of us who could not attend, I think, if there were some summary of "the public meeting held at the Sandringham Hotel, Belmont WA...
John Foyster
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Mar 15, 2000
8:36 am
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... Dave? Would you do the honours of posting your minutes now that there are a few of us here? Thanks. Best, JEREMY...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 19, 2000
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... It's good to see that there's no unseemly rush on this thing. John Foyster ... This message was sent using SE Net Webmail. http://webmail.senet.com.au/...
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Hi All-- Hmm... Maybe Dave's not getting his email. Here are the minutes he sent me ... Minutes Future of the Natcon meeting 5/3/00 Sandringham Hotel Minutes:...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 22, 2000
8:47 am
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Well it's a little difficult to know where to start with the minutes of the "Future of the Natcon meeting". They are almost mind boggling enough to make me ...
Mark Loney
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Mar 22, 2000
11:38 am
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... As I see it (and off the top of my head; it's hardly exhaustive): a. NatCon - lack of ongoing custodianship of the institutions of the NatCon--essentially...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 22, 2000
1:08 pm
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Well Goodness. Into it already! I'm afraid that due to Mr Loney's long missive, I am going to have to insert my own comments as interpolations in his...
Julian Warner
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Mar 22, 2000
1:42 pm
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... Actually, this wasn't the bit Sally objected to, she objected to point a) because it involved changing the constitution, which she considered to be letting...
David Cake
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Mar 22, 2000
5:23 pm
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I would like to endorse comments and observations made by Mark Loney and Julian Warner on this issue of "nationalising" the Natcon. They have succinctly...
Rose Mitchell
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Mar 23, 2000
11:12 am
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David Cake wrote: <snip> ... Actually, if the con goes "horribly bust", the concom members probably will end up having to sell cars, houses and valuable...
Mark Loney
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Mar 23, 2000
11:56 am
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... Nobody. Its formation may be proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the NatCon (although this is only likely to take place once clause v is ...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 23, 2000
11:58 am
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... I agree, although I think Dave's only wrong in emphasis. It will help financially in those circumstances where the con goes down by a couple of grand at...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 23, 2000
12:21 pm
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... Perhaps I should have specified 'goes horribly bust even if the committee act with a reasonable degree of care'. Its possible to make big losses without...
David Cake
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Mar 23, 2000
1:35 pm
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... We thought we would have a public meeting to discuss the future of the natcon. No more specific proposal was ever circulated AFAIK. I think Jeremy and I...
David Cake
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Mar 23, 2000
1:35 pm
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... Err.. that'd be "manoeuvring". ... which is more commonly spelt "politicking". (Gah--and I call myself an editor?!) CYa, JEREMY...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 23, 2000
7:50 pm
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I joined this group on invitation but so far I've heard from two confirmed West Australians, two ex-West Australians (now in Victoria and Canberra) and one...
Julian Warner
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Mar 24, 2000
9:40 am
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Mark sez ... How about a born, bred but expatriate New South Welshman who's lived in Victoria for the last 20+ years? I'm gradually forming views. Current...
Russell Blackford
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Mar 24, 2000
9:50 am
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Er, I said "Mark sez..." I meant "Julian sez", of course. I don't know what kind of Freudian slip this was. R ...
Russell Blackford
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Mar 24, 2000
9:52 am
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... Another darn west aussie here. Am listening, when I have more time I'll say a few things. Russell F. (not to be confused with Russell B - he may be...
Russell B. Farr
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Mar 24, 2000
9:58 am
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... The current situation is that its not really hard to alter (just one vote at a natcon business meeting is all that really needed), just hard to alter in a...
David Cake
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Mar 24, 2000
10:00 am
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... There are 30 of us on the list (see: http://www.egroups.com/GroupMembersPage?listName=natcons ) From those I recognise, it looks about 1/3 WA people. CYa, ...
Jeremy G Byrne
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Mar 24, 2000
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Rustle said ... Eat ya heart out. Russell B, not to be confused with young Rustle F - I may be old and decrepit but I get to be ... ahem ... inter alia ... a...
Russell Blackford
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Mar 24, 2000
10:11 am
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... Well, I'm Brisbanian *yawn* What the hell am I doing up at this hour .... :) *wave* Erika Australian SF Online http://www.asf-online.org/ Address: P.O. Box...
Erika Maria Lacey
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Mar 24, 2000
2:40 pm
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Jeremy - would you be able to post the list of members for those of us who would rather not have to register as members with eGroups.com? That is, as long as...
Julian Warner
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Mar 26, 2000
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... This misses the point that it is possible to amend the constitution at the business meeting at a first natcon - to remove the length restriction - and then...
Mark Loney
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Mar 26, 2000
6:42 am
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David Cake wrote: <snip> ... It is the nature of fannish conventions for there to be 'incidents' which result in them running into 'problems of various kinds'...
Mark Loney
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Mar 26, 2000
6:49 am
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David Cake wrote: <snip> ... But your will is to create "a structure to ensure that the Ditmars are run consistently, and help keep the Natcon going when it...
Mark Loney
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Mar 26, 2000
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Jeremy G Byrne wrote: <snip> ... Actually, that statement wasn't intended to disingenuous (but, hey, Jeremy, thanks for imputing the motive anyway). Casting...
Mark Loney
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Mar 26, 2000
7:00 am
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I sent this to the Eidolist earlier today. It's probably more useful here. I set out the whole thing verbatim. It also strikes me that it might take two...
Russell Blackford
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Mar 26, 2000
8:22 am
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... I was well aware of that option - indeed, its exactly what we intend to do. Innate conservatism, however, does make it difficult. ... Luckily, I am fairly...
David Cake
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Mar 26, 2000
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