... Yes. ... No. "Nazgul" is simply "Ringwraith" (more or less) in Black Speech. ("nazg" = "ring") In the text they do start getting called "Nazgul" more...
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Stolzi@...
Sep 8, 2001 1:57 am
In a message dated 9/7/01 8:12:17 PM Central Daylight Time, ... I tend to associate the word with "ghoul" even though I know that's false etymology. Thanks for...
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Michael Martinez
michael@...
Sep 8, 2001 5:15 am
... instance in ... Minas ... Master, which ... Nine ... withstand ... Yes, Sauron was the master. They were originally living men in the Second Age whom...
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Michael Martinez
michael@...
Sep 8, 2001 5:20 am
Tolkien was fond of linguistic jokes, of course, and his selection of the word "Nazgul" might be one of them. ...
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Ted Sherman
tedsherman@...
Sep 8, 2001 6:48 pm
The reason I suggested that the Nazgul were the winged steeds ridden by the Ringwraiths is found on p. 116 of The Return of the King (2nd ed., Houghton,...
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Stolzi@...
Sep 8, 2001 8:04 pm
In a message dated 9/8/01 12:16:26 AM Central Daylight Time, ... So, what we need here is a bureaucratic organization chart :) Mordor, being horrendously...
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stephen@...
Sep 8, 2001 9:00 pm
Grace - I'd suggest starting with Tolkien's own 'On Fairy-Stories' from "Tree and Leaf" which can be found in "The Tolkien Reader". - Stephen...
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Berni Phillips
bernip@...
Sep 9, 2001 12:51 am
From: "Ted Sherman" <tedsherman@...> ... if the Nazgul is him; thus, I think the Nazgul is the beast and he is the Lord of the Nazgul because he controls...
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Grace E. Funk
gfunk@...
Sep 9, 2001 3:56 am
Thanks to Michael. John, and Stephen. I'll pursue your suggestions. Any more? Grace E. Funk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Michael Martinez
michael@...
Sep 9, 2001 5:26 am
... You say that in jest, but you strike closer to the mark than you realize. Mordor did indeed have a bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is one of those features of...
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Michael Martinez
michael@...
Sep 9, 2001 5:29 am
... I once read an essay on the loss of sense of self that comes of being victimized through domination. I suspect that Tolkien may have resorted to the third...
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Trudy Shaw
tgshaw@...
Sep 9, 2001 9:44 pm
... From: Michael Martinez To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 12:29 AM Subject: [mythsoc] Re: Nazgul I once read an essay on the loss...
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Juliet Blosser
juliet@...
Sep 10, 2001 2:44 am
... When I read this passage, I took it to mean that the Captain was speaking as a puppet of Sauron--that Sauron's voice is simply using the Captain as a...
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NiffMarie@...
Sep 10, 2001 4:34 am
In a message dated 9/9/2001 5:44:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... How could that be? Could you explain further? That's fascinating. --Niff, infj ...
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Trudy Shaw
tgshaw@...
Sep 10, 2001 6:06 am
... From: NiffMarie@... To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Re: Nazgul In a message dated 9/9/2001...
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Trudy Shaw
tgshaw@...
Sep 10, 2001 6:19 am
... From: Grace E. Funk To: mythsoc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: [mythsoc] Myth and religion in LOTR A friend of mine has...
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Janet Croft
jbcroft@...
Sep 10, 2001 5:22 pm
I think you're on to something with #2. Perhaps in an analog to how the Ring affects the Ringbearers, repeated exposure to the Ringwraiths lessens one's ...
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Stolzi@...
Sep 10, 2001 6:08 pm
Trudy is correct; the "unknown rider=Gandalf" draft is discussed in David Bratman's "Rejected Plot Twists" essay, which may be found in a recent MYTHLORE. ...
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Steve Schaper
sschaper@...
Sep 10, 2001 6:12 pm
... Bob Dole did. . . Not that I am at all wishing to make a comparison. ... Probably Quetzlcoatldon. Pterdactls were way too small. But Q. had fur, as did at...
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rbryant42@...
Sep 11, 2001 1:28 pm
With all this discussion of Professor Tolkien's perceived stature among his literary fellows going on, it occurs to me that one might well ask how much of...
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Janet Croft
jbcroft@...
Sep 11, 2001 1:41 pm
Ron, you've got a great idea for a paper for the next Mythcon (theme: Shakespeare in Fantasy)! I'd encourage you to pursue it! Janet ... From:...
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Ted Sherman
tedsherman@...
Sep 11, 2001 3:22 pm
Are our New York and Washington, DC members safe and unharmed? Lord have mercy, Ted ... Dr. Theodore J. Sherman, Editor Mythlore: A Journal of J. R. R....
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WendellWag@...
Sep 11, 2001 3:27 pm
I probably live as close to the center of D.C. as anybody on the Mythopoeic Society list (about 10 miles from the center of D.C.) and I'm fine. I didn't hear...
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Christine Howlett
chowlett@...
Sep 11, 2001 4:43 pm
Got you beat, Wendell; I live just off Eastern Ave (the road dividing D.C. from Maryland at this point, for the non-DC-ers). And boy am I glad, I am not sure...
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Christine Howlett
chowlett@...
Sep 11, 2001 4:43 pm
Thank you, this DC worker is safe and at home now. I work near Union Station and normally take the metro and a bus home, but today it was shank's mare and...
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alexeik@...
Sep 11, 2001 5:08 pm
In a message dated 9/11/1 3:22:27 PM, Ted Sherman wrote: <<Are our New York and Washington, DC members safe and unharmed? ... I live in Queens, luckily....
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ERATRIANO@...
Sep 11, 2001 6:12 pm
In a message dated 09/11/01 1:10:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alexeik@... writes: << I live in Queens, luckily. Manhattan's not a pretty sight, and I guess...
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dianejoy@...
Sep 11, 2001 10:07 pm
I send my prayers to you, and to all those in New York and Washington. This is horrible, beyond description; it is insanity. I know our nation will rally in...
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Grace E. Funk
gfunk@...
Sep 12, 2001 4:30 am
Just want you all to know that up here in Canada, in my little town of Lumby, B.C. we are holding a prayer session on Thursday evening for all the shocked,...
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Christine Howlett
chowlett@...
Sep 12, 2001 8:42 am
Dear Grace, no one could ask for better neighbors than the Canadians. It's kind of a shame you can't send casseroles, but we need your prayers much more. ...
