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RE: M.Aero: Flying at Oshkosh

Good Morning Allan:
 
First and foremost, from all indications, you're no different than any of us that have been in your shoes at the beginning of our mastering the Mustang II.
 
I must have bounced a good dozen times, or more, and still do occasionally when I fail to arrest the sink rate with a little power, and slight forward stick to "stick it", to the ground, just prior to touching down.  Trick is not to drop the tail at anything near 50 mph / 44 kts, or the damn thing will be back in the air in no time, for your second landing on the same runway!
 
In Chris Tieman's latest news letter, I think he hit the nail on the head with his explanation of taking off/landing the MII.  I have found that coming over the fence at 80 mph/ 70 kts works best for a wheeled landing, placing the wind side down first.  For three-point landings 70 mph/ 61 kts works best for me; keeping her flying until the stall horn goes off, and the stick slightly back, nose up.  This usually has my tail wheel strike, followed immediately by the mains.
 
That said, I will be at Oshkosh this year for the first time; having no experience landing or taking off from a congested field like this event, I personally would be reluctant to take off or land during the event, and in fact, I'm getting there a day early to avoid this problem.  However, I'd be more then willing to bet my pension, there'd be someone there willing to help you with far more experience then I.
 
The best advise, I can give.....don't give up, practice, practice; eventually you'll get the knack, and thereafter, screw one up too!
 
Herb Rose N657HR Sacramento, PA
 

To: mustangaero@yahoogroups.com
From: aaaron@...
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:50:42 +0000
Subject: M.Aero: Flying at Oshkosh



Hi folks,
I'd like to ask anyone who is flying their M2 to Oshkosh a favor. Is there any chance you could take me up in your plane and fly over to one of the less crowded airfields and shoot a few touch and goes (me observing from the passenger seat is fine). Reason I ask is that although I now have about 30 hours in my plane I am still struggling a little on landings - my three pointers tend to balloon after the mains touch down - and I haven't nailed wheelers in it yet. I'm just wondering if the problem is speed, technique, my plane, me??!!??. It would be really helpful to see how another pilot/plane performs. Obviously I'll pay for gas (and lunch.... for the debrief:). I'll be at Oshkosh from Monday through Friday (departing Saturday morning).
Thanks in advance if able.
Best regards
Allan




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Hi folks, I'd like to ask anyone who is flying their M2 to Oshkosh a favor. Is there any chance you could take me up in your plane and fly over to one of the...
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Allan, I don't suppose you are interested in taking a holiday to Alaska? :)?I am sure you will find someone at Oshkosh, but if you are ever in Alaska drop me a...
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Good Morning Allan: First and foremost, from all indications, you're no different than any of us that have been in your shoes at the beginning of our mastering...
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Hey Pat, thanks. Better watch out. I might take you up on it sometime. Of course, the same applies to any mustangers visiting Sydney. Allan ... From:...
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Thanks Herb. I'm coming to the conclusion my problems are related to approach and touchdown speed. I also think i'm being a little to aggressive in getting the...
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Jul 12, 2009
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Alan, I found that whether I land with or without flaps in my Mustang II makes a big difference in the outcome. Without flaps, the plane tends to bounce back...
Rogers, Bob J.
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Jul 12, 2009
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Thanks Bob I've found it behaves somewhat similar flaps up or down. You're comment about not pulling back on the stick until below 50 makes sense. I think...
Allan Aaron
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Jul 13, 2009
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Hi Allan, I remember your 'landing techniques' thread from a while back. Did you do anything about the aft cg situation on your bird? Jerry...
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Hi Jerry I made a significant change to the cg by moving the engine 4" forward (remade the engine mount and modified the cowl). Now the cg is at the forward...
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