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Re: Allah created Hell for Mirza & Co.

What else can you say Mr. Farook Aziz?  The Islamists are experts/specialists in cursing/threatening.  Their angry Allah has created hells for burning his own creation!  How cruel this Allah is!  If the Creator is a rational entity then I'm sure He'll praise those who didn't follow the herd but questioned the barbaric rules preached by Mullahs using His name.  I think the Creator will curse those who cursed/killed His creation without convincing them through arguments.  He'll curse those who used His name to support the barbaric killings/torture/cursing in the name  of Islam and Sharia.
 
How are you (Mr. Farook Aziz) so sure about yourself that you won't be used as a fuel in the fire of hell of your Allah?  Please try to use a soft approach to rebut with arguments full of logic and facts.  Please refrain from using bad words to others.  Also, please refrain from compelling others to use hard words toward you.  Rather, please focus on the facts and try to invalidate the arguments of others through better arguments of yours.
 
Shabbir Ahmed
 
 


Farook Aziz@... wrote:

AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE THE ONLY REPLY I COULD COME UP WITH IS ALLAH MADE HELL FOR A REASON AND THAT RESEON IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  IF YOU WERE NOT AS YOU ARE THEN HOW COULD ALLAH FILL UP  HELL

 


Letter to Prof Michael A. Sells
From: Syed Kamran Mirza
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:25:35 +0000
Subject: [mukto-mona] A letter to Professor
Reply-To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
The recent uproar in the American Medias (TV and News papers) regarding your book (Approaching the Quran) drew my attention. I am a descent American having Muslim background: yes I understand you have tried to give a fresh look to the Islam by writing a censored version of the Quran. But was it fair job you did by excluding/hiding hundreds of hateful coercive Quranic verses? I don't know why you got to do such whitewashing to the Quran by camouflaging the real truth in Islam! Another western intellect Maurice Bucailee did the biggest blunder to the secular camp of Muslim world by his book "Quran, Bible and science". In this book Dr. Bucailee stated much bogus science in Quran (which was utterly flawed) by which Islamists throughout the world fooled common gullible people. Maurice Bucailee of course did this blunder for handsome amount of dollars. But I don't know what may be the ulterior purpose of yours!

In the Quran the word Jihad was used more than 200 times to fight the infidels, to kill the peoples of other religions (Hindus, Christians and Jews), and all other kaffirs. And Allah repeatedly promised heaven (Jannaat) having beautiful hurries, wine, honey, bird's meat and what not! Now you being a western professor took the challenge of giving a new look to the Quran. Why you think those Palestinians started their freedom struggle by the name Why you think those Imams (Islamic priests) of every Mosque in place>Saudi Arabia as well as in every Muslim country-giving Friday sermons using hundreds of coercive Quranic verses to incite Muslims to kill Jews, Christians, Hindus and infidels? Why you think those Imams of Saudi Arabia teaches general gullible young Arab students that Jews are pigs and Monkey and Muslims should kill them. They all quote Quran and hadiths to incite young Muslims. Do you think they will ever follow your version of carefully censored Quran? What triggered you to mask the real truth in the Quran and how the world will benefit from your book?

You should learn that anybody who is converted to Islam immediately turns into a terrorists. John Walker Lindh, Al-Mhajir, or that shoe bomber was not a terrorist until they were converted to Islam. No non-Islamists commit suicide bombing. So what it tells? It is the real Islam the main culprit. Whoever read Koran and hadiths turns into a radical Islamist. Mind that please-radical or fundamentalist Muslims are the real true followers of Quran and Islam. General Muslims (born Muslim only) or hadiths, so they are innocent peaceful Muslims and never is a terrorist.

Nevertheless, why peoples are going to follow your new meaning or new approach to the Quran? Are you the pope of Islam? Will Osama Bin laden and his al-Qaeda terrorists believe your version of Quran? In fact, they will give fatwa (Islamic verdict) that you should be put to death because you have distorted the actual Quran! Osama and his al-Qaeda are the real Muslims and they know better the meaning of Quran. All those Mullahs of Pakistan understand Quran much better than you and they will never heed to your censored meaning of Quran. Do you think those Mullahs will take your suggestion, or those al-Qaeda Islamic heroes will buy your version of the sugar-coated Quran? They will never believe your distorted meaning of Quran, believe me. You only can fool some gullible western youngsters

Please mind that Islam is truly a religion of violence. You cannot compare with any other religion by saying that Old Testament also can have some coercive verses. By comparing Quran with Bible or other scriptural books you are doing a great injustice to the mankind. Because you are comparing a big watermelon with a tiny peanut. You cannot give me more than 5 or 6 coercive Biblical verses from the entire Bible. But I can give you hundreds of serious hateful coercive verses from the Quran. Quranic verses pointing directly to harm or kill the people of other religions which exist now.

Bible does not ask to kill people of any specific religion, nor say to conquer whole world to establish Christianity. But Quran ask to conquer whole world and to convert entire mankind into Islam. Quran has many contradictory verses (hundreds of them) in that can be quite confusing. This ambiguity has allowed all Muslims to take their personalized "divine guidance" based on their own preferences. Those who are tolerant can quote parts of the Quran that advocates tolerance, while the fundamentalists and even the terrorists can quote those parts that foments hate and killing of the disbeliveers. Therefore ironically everyone can find what he is looking. Holy Quran is the most fertile ground for "pick choose" business by Mullahs. After September 11, America must know the truth about Islam. We shall have to check the proliferation of Islam in USA. Muslims in general have the global agenda to convert entire world into Islam. Every Mosque in USA must be under constant surveillance. Mosques are the breeding ground of Islamists in USA. "I urge you to read the essays in the attachments I am going to send you in a later date. Please remember, Islam is not like any other conventional religions of the world. This is much different. In Islam there is nothing out of context since the Quranic verses directly indicating the existing religions (Christians, Jews, Hindus and infidels). And also Islamists believe by their hearts that every words of Quran are God's spoken word and considered eternal. On the contrary, Biblical coercive verses (which are much limited in #) were for those ancient tribal kings who resisted the advances of Moses to the promise lands. Those tribes are non-existent today; hence biblical verses are utterly out of context today.

Vienna
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02-09-04, 02:27 AM
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Greco

Not suprisingly - not one muslim has dared to reply to this.

I guess the truth hurts them eh?




farook Miah Aziz



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